Manhunt 2 will be banned in Australia

There are few things I detest more than censorship. If that happened in America, I'd probably leave the country. >_>

PannicAtack

We are already a censorship country, sadly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship

Why ban it? Ask yourself why? Because it's "too violent"? Well, nobody is going make you play the game, and jsut because you can't stomach it doesn't mean you should stop those who can from playing it. It's the fault of the retailer if a minor buys such game, not the developers. Just like how it's the fault of the cinema if they let in a minor into a 18+ violent movie. If that happens, blame the cinema, not try to get the movie banned. Do the same with Manhunt here.

P.S. If you start making a big deal over how controversial the Wii version is, you will play straight into Rockstar's hands, andmake sure the game becomes a big seller.

People still seem to be confused. The OFLC has not banned it, they've refused to classify it and as a result it can't be sold in Australia.

Their guidelines still maintain adults are allowed to read, hear and see what they wish. It strikes me more as ineffectively legislated laws than an attempt at active censorship. 

Living is Australia sucks for games.

I thought that San andreas got banned in Australia, I know when I went there I made sure to rub it in that NZ got it. Manhunt was banned here aswell and I don't see the second getting released here either, not a chance, not with the wii controls.sailor232

San Andreas wasn't banned, but like most countries in the West it was pulled off shelves when Hot Coffee was revealed and clean versions could be sold.

And Manhunt wasn't initially banned, it was banned a year or so after it's release. 

And Manhunt wasn't initially banned, it was banned a year or so after it's release.

Danm_999

so basically, they're fascists and lazy.

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[QUOTE="DriftMax"]didn't manhunt come out a aus for a while and gta san andreas came out for abit then they took it off the shelves for a couple of weeks and changed some crap in it?Luigi_Vincetana

Yeah, I think in our version of SA, CJ doesn't swear as much and he ain't allowed to say a certain word too many times.

Is the game THAT bad?

i never play the first one...  

Ahh America .. home of the freeKayrod29

 ummmm no europe and many other places get the games like you too

Ahh America .. home of the freeKayrod29

The Netherlands is the real home of the free. A wide range of civil liberties are way ahead of their time over there. For example same sex marriage was introduced in 2001, the first nation to properly introduce it. Plus in the Netherlands you can buy weed in coffee shops. :oops:

America is more like home to the genocide native peoples of the land and independent descendants of British colonists. 

[QUOTE="Kayrod29"]Ahh America .. home of the freeLilac_Benjie

The Netherlands is the real home of the free. A wide range of civil liberties are way ahead of their time over there. For example same sex marriage was introduced in 2001, the first nation to properly introduce it. Plus in the Netherlands you can buy weed in coffee shops. :oops:

Please, do not get me started on how messed up I think the Netherlands are... 

[QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"]

[QUOTE="Kayrod29"]Ahh America .. home of the freeTimstuff

The Netherlands is the real home of the free. A wide range of civil liberties are way ahead of their time over there. For example same sex marriage was introduced in 2001, the first nation to properly introduce it. Plus in the Netherlands you can buy weed in coffee shops. :oops:

Please, do not get me started on how messed up I think the Netherlands are...

Really? I love their progressive civil liberties. No games have ever been banned in the Netherlands. They have in America.

Is the game THAT bad?

i never play the first one...  

JuarN18

Here is some reading material.

I'll withold judgement until the game comes out, its possible that IGN just selected the worst of the worst, or maybe not.

[QUOTE="Timstuff"][QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"]

[QUOTE="Kayrod29"]Ahh America .. home of the freeLilac_Benjie

The Netherlands is the real home of the free. A wide range of civil liberties are way ahead of their time over there. For example same sex marriage was introduced in 2001, the first nation to properly introduce it. Plus in the Netherlands you can buy weed in coffee shops. :oops:

Please, do not get me started on how messed up I think the Netherlands are...

Really? I love their progressive civil liberties. No games have ever been banned in the Netherlands. They have in America.

The Netherlands has major pedophilia problems, and as you said before, you can buy marijuana in a coffee shop (not that a bunch of doped-up pot heads would care that it kills brain cells).

[QUOTE="kryloc"]Japans education "rate" isn't higher because it sensors a few games. It's a lot more complicated than that. You know this of course, I'm assuming you were hoping no one else did, so you could make a ridiculous argument. PhoebusFlows

I think some of you people are incorrectly envisioning nightmare scenarios for the US if we ban a game here and there. I'm just saying, relax, it won't happen. The structure is too strong to fall apart. Our judicial system has been designed to protect our rights. On one hand I can admire your looking out of for our better interests as individuals, but so am I when I propose games like Manhunt 2, the most extremely graphic game to date possibly, be gone.

Exactly what is so horrible about Manhunt?  Just because now instead of pressing a button to take someone's head off, you just flick your wrist?  No person on this entire forum has played the game, everyone is just going off of a preview made my IGN.  They didn't even say if you HAD to do what they described.  For all we know, that could just be one of the many options to kill a person.

Plus, compared to the rest of the world, the US is very censored.  Using Japan is a HORRIBLE example considering that a Porn game has over 1 million pre-orders on amazon alone, where you have to "discover the witch by looking up teenage girls skirts."  Yea, they are a GREAT example.  That game would NEVER come out in the US. 

[QUOTE="PhoebusFlows"]

[QUOTE="kryloc"]Japans education "rate" isn't higher because it sensors a few games. It's a lot more complicated than that. You know this of course, I'm assuming you were hoping no one else did, so you could make a ridiculous argument. helium_flash

I think some of you people are incorrectly envisioning nightmare scenarios for the US if we ban a game here and there. I'm just saying, relax, it won't happen. The structure is too strong to fall apart. Our judicial system has been designed to protect our rights. On one hand I can admire your looking out of for our better interests as individuals, but so am I when I propose games like Manhunt 2, the most extremely graphic game to date possibly, be gone.

Exactly what is so horrible about Manhunt? Just because now instead of pressing a button to take someone's head off, you just flick your wrist? No person on this entire forum has played the game, everyone is just going off of a preview made my IGN. They didn't even say if you HAD to do what they described. For all we know, that could just be one of the many options to kill a person.

Plus, compared to the rest of the world, the US is very censored. Using Japan is a HORRIBLE example considering that a Porn game has over 1 million pre-orders on amazon alone, where you have to "discover the witch by looking up teenage girls skirts." Yea, they are a GREAT example. That game would NEVER come out in the US.

You use the Wiimote and Nunchuk to simulate cutting a man's testicles off with a pair of plyers. If ever there was a game where I wouldn't laugh at other countries for banning it, it would be this one. It's basically an interactive verion of Hostel where you act out the murders physically.

[QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"][QUOTE="Timstuff"][QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"]

[QUOTE="Kayrod29"]Ahh America .. home of the freeTimstuff

The Netherlands is the real home of the free. A wide range of civil liberties are way ahead of their time over there. For example same sex marriage was introduced in 2001, the first nation to properly introduce it. Plus in the Netherlands you can buy weed in coffee shops. :oops:

Please, do not get me started on how messed up I think the Netherlands are...

Really? I love their progressive civil liberties. No games have ever been banned in the Netherlands. They have in America.

The Netherlands has major pedophilia problems, and as you said before, you can buy marijuana in a coffee shop (not that a bunch of doped-up pot heads would care that it kills brain cells).

Cannabis doesn't kill brain cells. Alcohol kills brain cells. As for the other thing, I have never heard of that before.

I think some of you people are incorrectly envisioning nightmare scenarios for the US if we ban a game here and there. I'm just saying, relax, it won't happen. The structure is too strong to fall apart. Our judicial system has been designed to protect our rights.helium_flash

The Guy Game was banned in America for showing the breasts of a 16 year old. The game was not banned in Canada or Spain however, where the legal ages of consent are 14 and 13 respectively. 

[QUOTE="helium_flash"][QUOTE="PhoebusFlows"]

[QUOTE="kryloc"]Japans education "rate" isn't higher because it sensors a few games. It's a lot more complicated than that. You know this of course, I'm assuming you were hoping no one else did, so you could make a ridiculous argument. Timstuff

I think some of you people are incorrectly envisioning nightmare scenarios for the US if we ban a game here and there. I'm just saying, relax, it won't happen. The structure is too strong to fall apart. Our judicial system has been designed to protect our rights. On one hand I can admire your looking out of for our better interests as individuals, but so am I when I propose games like Manhunt 2, the most extremely graphic game to date possibly, be gone.

Exactly what is so horrible about Manhunt? Just because now instead of pressing a button to take someone's head off, you just flick your wrist? No person on this entire forum has played the game, everyone is just going off of a preview made my IGN. They didn't even say if you HAD to do what they described. For all we know, that could just be one of the many options to kill a person.

Plus, compared to the rest of the world, the US is very censored. Using Japan is a HORRIBLE example considering that a Porn game has over 1 million pre-orders on amazon alone, where you have to "discover the witch by looking up teenage girls skirts." Yea, they are a GREAT example. That game would NEVER come out in the US.

You use the Wiimote and Nunchuk to simulate cutting a man's testicles off with a pair of plyers. If ever there was a game where I wouldn't laugh at other countries for banning it, it would be this one. It's basically an interactive verion of Hostel where you act out the murders physically.

Yea, but who says you HAVE to do that?  IGN NEVER said if you have to do that or not.  If could just be an option.  Plus, noone here has played the game, so everyone is automatically believing that the entire game will be as horrible as that one example.  Moving your wrist to cut a man's testicles off is not the same as really cutting a man's testicles off.

The only way i could see this getting banned in the US is if they actually SHOW the testicles, because nudity (unfortunately :P) isn't really allowed here in videogames. 

The only way i could see this getting banned in the US is if they actually SHOW the testicles, because nudity (unfortunately :P) isn't really allowed here in videogames. helium_flash

I think the pliers will just clamp down in the general area. :P

Exactly what is so horrible about Manhunt? Just because now instead of pressing a button to take someone's head off, you just flick your wrist? No person on this entire forum has played the game, everyone is just going off of a preview made my IGN. They didn't even say if you HAD to do what they described. For all we know, that could just be one of the many options to kill a person.

Plus, compared to the rest of the world, the US is very censored. Using Japan is a HORRIBLE example considering that a Porn game has over 1 million pre-orders on amazon alone, where you have to "discover the witch by looking up teenage girls skirts." Yea, they are a GREAT example. That game would NEVER come out in the US.

helium_flash

[QUOTE="Timstuff"][QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"][QUOTE="Timstuff"][QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"]

[QUOTE="Kayrod29"]Ahh America .. home of the freeLilac_Benjie

The Netherlands is the real home of the free. A wide range of civil liberties are way ahead of their time over there. For example same sex marriage was introduced in 2001, the first nation to properly introduce it. Plus in the Netherlands you can buy weed in coffee shops. :oops:

Please, do not get me started on how messed up I think the Netherlands are...

Really? I love their progressive civil liberties. No games have ever been banned in the Netherlands. They have in America.

The Netherlands has major pedophilia problems, and as you said before, you can buy marijuana in a coffee shop (not that a bunch of doped-up pot heads would care that it kills brain cells).

Cannabis doesn't kill brain cells. Alcohol kills brain cells.

I took Psychology in college this year and while the second sentence is true, the first one is as big of a lie as cigarettes not causing cancer. Like any kind of drug (legal or illegal), weed alters the way your body functions. It overstimulates the "pleasure glands" in your brain, and as a result, it makes it increasingly difficult to get pleasurable stimulation without the assistance of weed. I do not need that kind of garbage polluting my mind and decreasing my intelligence and sperm count, thank you.

[QUOTE="helium_flash"]Exactly what is so horrible about Manhunt? Just because now instead of pressing a button to take someone's head off, you just flick your wrist? No person on this entire forum has played the game, everyone is just going off of a preview made my IGN. They didn't even say if you HAD to do what they described. For all we know, that could just be one of the many options to kill a person.

Plus, compared to the rest of the world, the US is very censored. Using Japan is a HORRIBLE example considering that a Porn game has over 1 million pre-orders on amazon alone, where you have to "discover the witch by looking up teenage girls skirts." Yea, they are a GREAT example. That game would NEVER come out in the US.

foxhound_fox

Yes, it's a DS game.  It's almost considering porn (they just don't take off their clothes).  Still, "examining" teenage girls in "certain" areas would never get a release in the US (and if it did, would definitely be rated Ao).  Nudity in games doesn't fly here, expecially if that nudity is involved with underage girls.

Yes, it's a DS game. It's almost considering porn (they just don't take off their clothes). Still, "examining" teenage girls in "certain" areas would never get a release in the US (and if it did, would definitely be rated Ao). Nudity in games doesn't fly here, expecially if that nudity is involved with underage girls. helium_flash

[QUOTE="helium_flash"]Yes, it's a DS game. It's almost considering porn (they just don't take off their clothes). Still, "examining" teenage girls in "certain" areas would never get a release in the US (and if it did, would definitely be rated Ao). Nudity in games doesn't fly here, expecially if that nudity is involved with underage girls. foxhound_fox

You are still touching a girl under her skirt in the game. Tell me, if someone touched your teenage daughter like that, would you be okay with it as long as he didn't see her naked? 

The Netherlands has major pedophilia problems, and as you said before, you can buy marijuana in a coffee shop (not that a bunch of doped-up pot heads would care that it kills brain cells). Timstuff

You don't really know too much about drugs, do you?

Why would you speak about what you don't know? 

I took Psychology in college this year and while the second sentence is true, the first one is as big of a lie as cigarettes not causing cancer.Timstuff

I took Neuropsychopharmacology.

There is no proof that weed kills brain cells, and all sorts of proof that there are no long term effects.  You could smoke for 20 years, stop smoking, and be "normal" after a few months of getting the crap out of your system.  That's not to say that while you were all doped up that you would learn anything new.  But, anyway, alcohol is about 10 times worse than marijuana in EVERY way except mouth and lung problems.  Alcohol is addictive, poisonous, can kill much easier, destroys motor skills and inhibition, causes way more liver issues, etc. 

You are still touching a girl under her skirt in the game. Tell me, if someone touched your teenage daughter like that, would you be okay with it as long as he didn't see her naked? Timstuff

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]You are still touching a girl under her skirt in the game. Tell me, if someone touched your teenage daughter like that, would you be okay with it as long as he didn't see her naked? foxhound_fox

http://kotaku.com/gaming/top/snk-on-witching-touching-game-207023.php 

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]You are still touching a girl under her skirt in the game. Tell me, if someone touched your teenage daughter like that, would you be okay with it as long as he didn't see her naked? foxhound_fox

Try looking in the W section for the DS.

That sucks but I'm too lazy to move to another country and none of the good ones would want me :cry:

*LOL* Wow. What a...special thing to say.

See, kids? This is why you should stay away from drugs. Unless, you want to come off as a retard to other people.

LinkChicky

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]I took Psychology in college this year and while the second sentence is true, the first one is as big of a lie as cigarettes not causing cancer.Jandurin

I took Neuropsychopharmacology.

There is no proof that weed kills brain cells, and all sorts of proof that there are no long term effects. You could smoke for 20 years, stop smoking, and be "normal" after a few months of getting the crap out of your system. That's not to say that while you were all doped up that you would learn anything new. But, anyway, alcohol is about 10 times worse than marijuana in EVERY way except mouth and lung problems. Alcohol is addictive, poisonous, can kill much easier, destroys motor skills and inhibition, causes way more liver issues, etc.

Yup. Alchohol is bad too, and in many ways worse than Marijuana, especially since it's readily availible. 

I took Psychology in college this year and while the second sentence is true, the first one is as big of a lie as cigarettes not causing cancer. Like any kind of drug (legal or illegal), weed alters the way your body functions. It overstimulates the "pleasure glands" in your brain, and as a result, it makes it increasingly difficult to get pleasurable stimulation without the assistance of weed. I do not need that kind of garbage polluting my mind and decreasing my intelligence and sperm count, thank you.Timstuff

Cannabis increases all association in the brain without bias. Memory is impaired during intoxication, but recovers after use. Weed can be used to increase lateral thought.

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[QUOTE="Timstuff"]The Netherlands has major pedophilia problems, and as you said before, you can buy marijuana in a coffee shop (not that a bunch of doped-up pot heads would care that it kills brain cells). LinkChicky

You don't really know too much about drugs, do you?

Why would you speak about what you don't know?

See, kids? This is why you should stay away from drugs. Unless, you want to come off as a retard to other people.

I had a coworker who was a pothead and he was totally retarded. He might have been into other drugs too, but either way he got fired because he was a lousy employee. Marijuana has no positive effects unless it's being used to treat disease. The only reason you would want it is because of peer pressure or because there is no joy in your life.

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]I took Psychology in college this year and while the second sentence is true, the first one is as big of a lie as cigarettes not causing cancer. Like any kind of drug (legal or illegal), weed alters the way your body functions. It overstimulates the "pleasure glands" in your brain, and as a result, it makes it increasingly difficult to get pleasurable stimulation without the assistance of weed. I do not need that kind of garbage polluting my mind and decreasing my intelligence and sperm count, thank you.Lilac_Benjie

Weed does not kill brain cells. It increases all association in the brain without bias. Memory is impaired during intoxication, but recovers after use. Weed can be used to increase lateral thought.

LOL, it may be in question as to wether or not weed has longterm health hazards (aside from lung cancer), but "opening your mind to lateral thought" is a load of hippy BS. I am probably 10x smarter than the average weed smoker and I've been clean my entire life.

The only reason you would want it is because of peer pressure or because there is no joy in your life.Timstuff

But, opinion. If the dude was smoking and going to work, then him being a lousy employee is pretty much obvious. It doesn't lend to being motivated.

In fact, if you smoke before 18? I think it was, there's literature that connects Amotivational Syndrome to young folks smoking.

I am probably 10x smarter than the average weed smoker and I've been clean my entire life. Timstuff

Get it through your head.  Marijuana does not make you dumber, except short-term.  I've met plenty of smokers that were incredibly smart. 

See, kids? This is why you should stay away from drugs. Unless, you want to come off as a retard to other people.

LinkChicky

I believe that you are the one who is coming off negatively to others by using the word retard in such a derogatory way. Kindly learn the correct definition.

I am probably 10x smarter than the average weed smokerTimstuff

My IQ is 140. There is absolutely no chance that your IQ is 1400. In fact your entire sentence leads me to believe that your statement is false.

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]I took Psychology in college this year and while the second sentence is true, the first one is as big of a lie as cigarettes not causing cancer. Like any kind of drug (legal or illegal), weed alters the way your body functions. It overstimulates the "pleasure glands" in your brain, and as a result, it makes it increasingly difficult to get pleasurable stimulation without the assistance of weed. I do not need that kind of garbage polluting my mind and decreasing my intelligence and sperm count, thank you.Lilac_Benjie

Weed does not kill brain cells. It increases all association in the brain without bias. Memory is impaired during intoxication, but recovers after use. Weed can be used to increase lateral thought.