Many people here trying pretty hard to convince us that the PS3 is successful

If the PS3 was actually successful I doubt there would be so many here trying to convince us that it was.

Lets look at the facts:

1. PS3 last place in hardware sales. Went from first place to last place. How sad.

2. PS3 has lost Sony's gaming division billions of dollars

3.PS3 has lost Sony 80% of their marketshare following the almighty PS2last generation

You see... this is the reason why so many have spent this entire generation trying to spin and manufacture reasons why they think PS3 is a success. Because all the facts that matter point to it being a failure. Sorry.

If the PS3 was actually successful I doubt there would be so many here trying to convince us that it was.

Lets look at the facts:

1. PS3 last place in hardware sales. Went from first place to last place. How sad.

2. PS3 has lost Sony's gaming division billions of dollars

3.PS3 has lost Sony 80% of their marketshare following the almighty PS2last generation

You see... this is the reason why so many have spent this entire generation trying to spin and manufacture reasons why they think PS3 is a success. Because all the facts that matter point to it being a failure. Sorry.

TheNextOrder

If the PS3 was actually successful I doubt there would be so many here trying to convince us that it was.

Lets look at the facts:

1. PS3 last place in hardware sales. Went from first place to last place. How sad.

2. PS3 has lost Sony's gaming division billions of dollars

3.PS3 has lost Sony 80% of their marketshare following the almighty PS2last generation

You see... this is the reason why so many have spent this entire generation trying to spin and manufacture reasons why they think PS3 is a success. Because all the facts that matter point to it being a failure. Sorry.

TheNextOrder

And yet I own a PS3, and really enjoy it. I don't care about sales figures, or exclusives, or any of the stuff that usually gets thrown around in SW arguments. I love the games that I'm playing. To me, that means the PS3 is a success.

Ps3 has ensured Blu-ray's domination over the market earning Sony BILLIONS of dollars.

And as a bonus, it's got the best games this generation.

The real failure is 360, literally, like 33% of them fail?

Ps3 has ensured Blu-ray's domination over the market earning Sony BILLIONS of dollars.

And as a bonus, it's got the best games this generation.

The real failure is 360, literally, like 33% of them fail?

urdead18

[QUOTE="urdead18"]

Ps3 has ensured Blu-ray's domination over the market earning Sony BILLIONS of dollars.

And as a bonus, it's got the best games this generation.

The real failure is 360, literally, like 33% of them fail?

TheNextOrder

I don't care to convince anybody of anything. I just know the PS3 is the console for me and that's all that matters to me. I couldn't care less whether other people think the PS3 is a failure or not.

from a completely non fanboy point of viea aka not system wars then yes the PS3 is a failure in the sense that it lost every advantage it had last generation, and has yet to see the rewards of putting a Blu-Ray drive in the Playstation 3.

If the PS3 was actually successful I doubt there would be so many here trying to convince us that it was.

Lets look at the facts:

1. PS3 last place in hardware sales. Went from first place to last place. How sad.

2. PS3 has lost Sony's gaming division billions of dollars

3.PS3 has lost Sony 80% of their marketshare following the almighty PS2last generation

You see... this is the reason why so many have spent this entire generation trying to spin and manufacture reasons why they think PS3 is a success. Because all the facts that matter point to it being a failure. Sorry.

TheNextOrder

[QUOTE="TheNextOrder"]

[QUOTE="urdead18"]

Ps3 has ensured Blu-ray's domination over the market earning Sony BILLIONS of dollars.

And as a bonus, it's got the best games this generation.

The real failure is 360, literally, like 33% of them fail?

urdead18

2. Why hasn't the recession affected Nintendo and MS, who are selling more consoles now than they ever have?

"All the facts that matter," eh? To whom? Sony executives? Shareholders? Competition? Consumers? Different people value very different things in a free-market economy. You need to specify which group of people you are talking about. As a consumer, sales figures are of no concern to me. I care about price/value, games, and reliability. For all that is included in the box (as well as free online play), as a consumer, the PS3 is a huge success in terms of price. The PS3 is a huge success in terms of games, too. Even with a year head start, the 360's library is arguably no better than the PS3's in terms of quality games. As far as reliability is concerned, the PS3 is a tremendous success--for very obvious reasons. All of the facts that matter point to the PS3 being a success. Sorry.Jared2720

and the game in your avatar?Giancar

[QUOTE="urdead18"][QUOTE="TheNextOrder"]Funny that Sony (the entire company not just gaming division) posted a loss in their last fiscal quarter. Where are these billions in earnings you speak of?

TheNextOrder

2. Why hasn't the recession affected Nintendo and MS, who are selling more consoles now than they ever have?

Lol,doesnt affect them because their the cheapest console on the market..... A 400$ console compared to 300$ console which appeals to every 1, and a console at 199$... Which do you think is going to sell better during a economic crysis?

2. Why hasn't the recession affected Nintendo and MS, who are selling more consoles now than they ever have?

Wii sales are down, and every company has felt the effect of lower consumer spending.

The PS3 is not a failure, it's just the XBOX360 is a huge success.

[QUOTE="Giancar"]and the game in your avatar?TheNextOrder

Am I right?

And the ps3 isn't selling anywhere "bad"

[QUOTE="urdead18"][QUOTE="TheNextOrder"]Funny that Sony (the entire company not just gaming division) posted a loss in their last fiscal quarter. Where are these billions in earnings you speak of?

TheNextOrder

2. Why hasn't the recession affected Nintendo and MS, who are selling more consoles now than they ever have?

Btw, its obvious that sony doesnt own br, alot of other companies have shares.... But they started to the project, and own a large amount of share in it..

[QUOTE="urdead18"][QUOTE="TheNextOrder"]Funny that Sony (the entire company not just gaming division) posted a loss in their last fiscal quarter. Where are these billions in earnings you speak of?

TheNextOrder

2. Why hasn't the recession affected Nintendo and MS, who are selling more consoles now than they ever have?

It has affected all 3 comapnies in some form or another, so don't single Sony out. But I do agree w/ you people need to read up on Blu-Ray and the BDA because Sony is NOT the sole beneficiary of profits for Blu-Ray.

Wii sales are down, and every company has felt the effect of lower consumer spending.

jimkabrhel

The Wii sales are "down" applies only to Japan. In North America, it is not the case as shown in February's NPD sales report.

[QUOTE="TheNextOrder"]

[QUOTE="Giancar"]and the game in your avatar?Giancar

Am I right?

And the ps3 isn't selling anywhere "bad"

2. NPD sales data has not even been released.

3. This is aconsole we're talking about not a low budget game by a new developer,a console obviouslyhas much more invested in it's success.

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

Wii sales are down, and every company has felt the effect of lower consumer spending.

ezikiell

The Wii sales are "down" applies only to Japan. In North America, it is not the case as shown in February's NPD sales report.

ps3 has nothing but shooters.

ps3 has nothing but shooters.

MerisYaki

Dear Diary....Irony.

"All the facts that matter," eh? To whom? Sony executives? Shareholders? Competition? Consumers? Different people value very different things in a free-market economy. You need to specify which group of people you are talking about. As a consumer, sales figures are of no concern to me. I care about price/value, games, and reliability. For all that is included in the box (as well as free online play), as a consumer, the PS3 is a huge success in terms of price. The PS3 is a huge success in terms of games, too. Even with a year head start, the 360's library is arguably no better than the PS3's in terms of quality games. As far as reliability is concerned, the PS3 is a tremendous success--for very obvious reasons. All of the facts that matter point to the PS3 being a success. Sorry.Jared2720

That's an argument you would lose. The PS3 has a nice year set up this year, but as of right now, it isn't really that close.

[QUOTE="Giancar"]

[QUOTE="TheNextOrder"]sad to have to resort to calling out my avatar

TheNextOrder

Am I right?

And the ps3 isn't selling anywhere "bad"

2. NPD sales data has not even been released.

3. This is aconsole we're talking about not a low budget game by a new developer,a console obviouslyhas much more invested in it's success.

So a couple weeks after the madworld sales flop was enough for you, huh?

In any case, you have no idea if #2 is true or nto at this point. Sony is on the right track.

ps3 has nothing but shooters.

MerisYaki

and 360 has nothing but ? in 09

ps3 has nothing but shooters.

MerisYaki

If the PS3 was actually successful I doubt there would be so many here trying to convince us that it was.

Lets look at the facts:

1. PS3 last place in hardware sales. Went from first place to last place. How sad.

2. PS3 has lost Sony's gaming division billions of dollars

3.PS3 has lost Sony 80% of their marketshare following the almighty PS2last generation

You see... this is the reason why so many have spent this entire generation trying to spin and manufacture reasons why they think PS3 is a success. Because all the facts that matter point to it being a failure. Sorry.

TheNextOrder

Well, cows have changed their definition of success to fit this generation. Success just means it lasts the entire gen and it pumps out some pretty good games. And it has met those standards of success. And you can't blame the entire market share loss on the PS3. Even if it launched at $400 at launch and cost the same as the 360 does now, the wii would still dominate and take up a huge portion of the market share. munu9

Well I think we all had to change our definition of success. The wii is a bit of an anomoly. It was always thought that the best sales would get the best games because thats the way it's always operated. I guess not.

But I wouldn't say the PS3 is anymore successful by 360, if not less successful.

[QUOTE="munu9"]Well, cows have changed their definition of success to fit this generation. Success just means it lasts the entire gen and it pumps out some pretty good games. And it has met those standards of success. And you can't blame the entire market share loss on the PS3. Even if it launched at $400 at launch and cost the same as the 360 does now, the wii would still dominate and take up a huge portion of the market share. hakanakumono

Well I think we all had to change our definition of success. The wii is a bit of an anomoly. It was always thought that the best sales would get the best games because thats the way it's always operated. I guess not.

But I wouldn't say the PS3 is anymore successful by 360, if not less successful.

Agreed, and I didn't intend to imply the molded

If the PS3 was actually successful I doubt there would be so many here trying to convince us that it was.

Lets look at the facts:

1. PS3 last place in hardware sales. Went from first place to last place. How sad.

2. PS3 has lost Sony's gaming division billions of dollars

3.PS3 has lost Sony 80% of their marketshare following the almighty PS2last generation

You see... this is the reason why so many have spent this entire generation trying to spin and manufacture reasons why they think PS3 is a success. Because all the facts that matter point to it being a failure. Sorry.

TheNextOrder

his x360 got RROD

it rather have my console sell crap and have good games than have it sell good and have bad games like the wii.

Rhubarb9

[QUOTE="TheNextOrder"]

If the PS3 was actually successful I doubt there would be so many here trying to convince us that it was.

Lets look at the facts:

1. PS3 last place in hardware sales. Went from first place to last place. How sad.

2. PS3 has lost Sony's gaming division billions of dollars

3.PS3 has lost Sony 80% of their marketshare following the almighty PS2last generation

You see... this is the reason why so many have spent this entire generation trying to spin and manufacture reasons why they think PS3 is a success. Because all the facts that matter point to it being a failure. Sorry.

djsifer01

The price is too high, plain and simple

ps3 has nothing but shooters.

MerisYaki

[QUOTE="djsifer01"][QUOTE="TheNextOrder"]

If the PS3 was actually successful I doubt there would be so many here trying to convince us that it was.

Lets look at the facts:

1. PS3 last place in hardware sales. Went from first place to last place. How sad.

2. PS3 has lost Sony's gaming division billions of dollars

3.PS3 has lost Sony 80% of their marketshare following the almighty PS2last generation

You see... this is the reason why so many have spent this entire generation trying to spin and manufacture reasons why they think PS3 is a success. Because all the facts that matter point to it being a failure. Sorry.

TheNextOrder

[QUOTE="TheNextOrder"]

[QUOTE="djsifer01"]FAIL. The PS3 and the 22 million people that own 1 disagree with you. Sales means nothing Quality Games means everything. The PS3 is not a failure but you thread dose Fail.Giancar

If the PS3 was actually successful I doubt there would be so many here trying to convince us that it was.

Lets look at the facts:

1. PS3 last place in hardware sales. Went from first place to last place. How sad.

2. PS3 has lost Sony's gaming division billions of dollars

3.PS3 has lost Sony 80% of their marketshare following the almighty PS2last generation

You see... this is the reason why so many have spent this entire generation trying to spin and manufacture reasons why they think PS3 is a success. Because all the facts that matter point to it being a failure. Sorry.

TheNextOrder