Many people here trying pretty hard to convince us that the PS3 is successful

I find it funny when people compare the PS3 to the PS2, I mean the current price of the PS3 is what the PS2 launched at (i think, i remember buying my ps2 for 400+tax). On top of the fact its only been 2 years. (obviously their not gonna get the same market share as they did last gen, when they basically had no competition). But the PS3 rate of sale since launch has been the same as the 360's even with a $$ premium (albeit so was the xbox's when compared with the ps2) but the ps3 is sustaining it, so I don't see what the big deal is.

At the end of the day, I get to turn on my ps3 and have fun with it, and thats all that matters. navstar29

[QUOTE="Giancar"]and the game in your avatar?TheNextOrder

[QUOTE="navstar29"]I find it funny when people compare the PS3 to the PS2, I mean the current price of the PS3 is what the PS2 launched at (i think, i remember buying my ps2 for 400+tax). On top of the fact its only been 2 years. (obviously their not gonna get the same market share as they did last gen, when they basically had no competition). But the PS3 rate of sale since launch has been the same as the 360's even with a $$ premium (albeit so was the xbox's when compared with the ps2) but the ps3 is sustaining it, so I don't see what the big deal is.

At the end of the day, I get to turn on my ps3 and have fun with it, and thats all that matters.

Do you know why they are ALOT of cows aka PS3 Fanboys here? Because they are already bored of their PS3, instinct of trying to get money to buy another console they are there in SW trying to convince everyone to buy one so there would be more people on psn to play with :PDonMarkito

Actually http://www.joystiq.com/2009/02/25/sony-psn-accounts-surpass-20-million-worldwide/

Please if your going to post something then atleast try to be right or have some proof.:)

[QUOTE="DonMarkito"]Do you know why they are ALOT of cows aka PS3 Fanboys here? Because they are already bored of their PS3, instinct of trying to get money to buy another console they are there in SW trying to convince everyone to buy one so there would be more people on psn to play with :PUltramarine777

Actually http://www.joystiq.com/2009/02/25/sony-psn-accounts-surpass-20-million-worldwide/

Please if your going to post something then atleast try to be right or have some proof.:)

these threads make me :lol:

cmon guys, lets take a break for a minute and look what sony's intention was with the Ps3

they tried to fix the flaws of the Ps2, which was the weakest system, by making the Ps3 a technical powerhouse. they also wanted to make the hardware reliable, unlike the Ps2's hardware, so they did. Doing so, they sacrificed the cheapness of the Ps2 and put out a $600 console. It doesn't really matter that the Ps2 sold 150 million units, because 150 million people aren't going to shell $600 more out for another console. I mean cmon, you guys wanted more shooters on the Ps2 last gen, and now that we have shooters, everyone's complaining that there are TOO MANY shooters. From my perspective, sony catered to the fans this gen. and they're doing a fine job of that. I bought Ps3 for exculsives, and so far they've all been top notch (the ones ive played, so no BUT LAIR!!!), as the hardware has been as well.

you don't think sony knew they had to sacrifice some sales for quality? sure, the sales have been disapointing, sure we didnt need bluray, but we got them. the sales aren't bad, they are good for such an expensive machine, they are DISAPOINTING though.

but who cares? time in and time out, we get quality games from sony, isnt that what matters? now that the Ps3 has games, i guess we have to undermine that with sales right?

Mr_Apple_Soup

yet despite all of those sales figues......its the ONLY system getting good games.....:lol: LBP,MGS4,Killzone,resistance 2,etc. while x360 is sstill stuck on gears and halo 3.....and the wii with smash and metroid...

these threads make me :lol:

cmon guys, lets take a break for a minute and look what sony's intention was with the Ps3

they tried to fix the flaws of the Ps2, which was the weakest system, by making the Ps3 a technical powerhouse. they also wanted to make the hardware reliable, unlike the Ps2's hardware, so they did. Doing so, they sacrificed the cheapness of the Ps2 and put out a $600 console. It doesn't really matter that the Ps2 sold 150 million units, because 150 million people aren't going to shell $600 more out for another console. I mean cmon, you guys wanted more shooters on the Ps2 last gen, and now that we have shooters, everyone's complaining that there are TOO MANY shooters. From my perspective, sony catered to the fans this gen. and they're doing a fine job of that. I bought Ps3 for exculsives, and so far they've all been top notch (the ones ive played, so no BUT LAIR!!!), as the hardware has been as well.

you don't think sony knew they had to sacrifice some sales for quality? sure, the sales have been disapointing, sure we didnt need bluray, but we got them. the sales aren't bad, they are good for such an expensive machine, they are DISAPOINTING though.

but who cares? time in and time out, we get quality games from sony, isnt that what matters? now that the Ps3 has games, i guess we have to undermine that with sales right?

Mr_Apple_Soup

tbh i see more people in here trying to convince others the PS3 is a failure, TC is a clear example..

If I was 1 of Sony's directors i wouldnt be happy with the PS3 sales, but i still would be happy knowing Blu-ray which was obviously implemented in the PS3 to help the format gain popularity is now the lead HD format and will be like that for many years to come... If i was a director i would also be happy that now Ps3 is having good sales and has now a strong install base... If i was a Sony's director i'd probably enjoy my extremely HIGH salary and not waiste my time in forums..

However am only a gamer who loves spending a huge part of his free time playing videogames.. thus having owned my PS3 for nearly 2 yrs i definately cannot say its a failure..

- Powerful /Reliable hardware? Check

- Good online service? check

- Free online service? Check

- Great exclusive titles? Check

- Great Multiplats? Check

- Some visually impressive games? Check

- Original/Fun PSN titles? Check

- Blu-ray player? Check

- Many multimedia functions? Check

well if having all the above is considered a Failure.... then i am happy to be a failed gamer owning a failure of a console :)

yet despite all of those sales figues......its the ONLY system getting good games.....:lol: LBP,MGS4,Killzone,resistance 2,etc. while x360 is sstill stuck on gears and halo 3.....and the wii with smash and metroid...

whybuyaxbox360

Aside from LBP the others are just "more of the same" kind of games with better graphics. And I am saying it for both ps3 and 360

[QUOTE="Ultramarine777"]

[QUOTE="DonMarkito"]Do you know why they are ALOT of cows aka PS3 Fanboys here? Because they are already bored of their PS3, instinct of trying to get money to buy another console they are there in SW trying to convince everyone to buy one so there would be more people on psn to play with :PDonMarkito

Actually http://www.joystiq.com/2009/02/25/sony-psn-accounts-surpass-20-million-worldwide/

Please if your going to post something then atleast try to be right or have some proof.:)

Well that could be true but it is not. I have many mates with PS3 and they play it all the time. So if you had proof as I did then maybe I would believe you a little more.

[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

No you're wrong. KZ2 doesn't own the whole Wii lineup, especially when you have SMG and Brawl in that list.

SpinoRaptor24

And those 2 Mario games both outscored and outsold KZ2.

So there.

[QUOTE="navstar29"]I find it funny when people compare the PS3 to the PS2, I mean the current price of the PS3 is what the PS2 launched at (i think, i remember buying my ps2 for 400+tax). On top of the fact its only been 2 years. (obviously their not gonna get the same market share as they did last gen, when they basically had no competition). But the PS3 rate of sale since launch has been the same as the 360's even with a $$ premium (albeit so was the xbox's when compared with the ps2) but the ps3 is sustaining it, so I don't see what the big deal is.

At the end of the day, I get to turn on my ps3 and have fun with it, and thats all that matters. coltsfan4ever

It meets my gaming needs. It IS a success.

[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]yeah but if you're gonna argue with me don't bring up mario/zelda cause many people have no interest in those that's why gamecube sold so little...AlexSays

[QUOTE="whybuyaxbox360"]

yet despite all of those sales figues......its the ONLY system getting good games.....:lol: LBP,MGS4,Killzone,resistance 2,etc. while x360 is sstill stuck on gears and halo 3.....and the wii with smash and metroid...

Aside from LBP the others are just "more of the same" kind of games with better graphics. And I am saying it for both ps3 and 360

[QUOTE="whybuyaxbox360"]

yet despite all of those sales figues......its the ONLY system getting good games.....:lol: LBP,MGS4,Killzone,resistance 2,etc. while x360 is sstill stuck on gears and halo 3.....and the wii with smash and metroid...

kendrene

Aside from LBP the others are just "more of the same" kind of games with better graphics. And I am saying it for both ps3 and 360

LOL , Hey TC ,you want to know whats not a success? Madworld. An overrated Wii game with crappy excuse for graphics and a short lazy single player.

PS3 is a success considering it cost about $600 and still sold a big amount.:lol:

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

And those 2 Mario games both outscored and outsold KZ2.

So there.

Rhubarb9

so what does that make killzone 2?

I don't remember N64 outselling PSX, you got any proof of that?Rhubarb9

[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]I don't remember N64 outselling PSX, you got any proof of that?AlexSays

[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]I don't remember N64 outselling PSX, you got any proof of that?AlexSays

I never said killzone 2 was more popular than Mario, where are you pulling stuff from?

I never said killzone 2 was more popular than Mario, where are you pulling stuff from?Rhubarb9

don't bring up mario/zelda cause many people have no interest in thoseRhubarb9

[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]I never said killzone 2 was more popular than Mario, where are you pulling stuff from?AlexSays

don't bring up mario/zelda cause many people have no interest in thoseRhubarb9

If the PS3 was actually successful I doubt there would be so many here trying to convince us that it was.

Lets look at the facts:

1. PS3 last place in hardware sales. Went from first place to last place. How sad.

2. PS3 has lost Sony's gaming division billions of dollars

3.PS3 has lost Sony 80% of their marketshare following the almighty PS2last generation

You see... this is the reason why so many have spent this entire generation trying to spin and manufacture reasons why they think PS3 is a success. Because all the facts that matter point to it being a failure. Sorry.

TheNextOrder

If Sony is making a profit off the PS3 then it can be considered successufl.

Many people here trying pretty hard to justify their purchases.

[QUOTE="TheNextOrder"]

If the PS3 was actually successful I doubt there would be so many here trying to convince us that it was.

Lets look at the facts:

1. PS3 last place in hardware sales. Went from first place to last place. How sad.

2. PS3 has lost Sony's gaming division billions of dollars

3.PS3 has lost Sony 80% of their marketshare following the almighty PS2last generation

You see... this is the reason why so many have spent this entire generation trying to spin and manufacture reasons why they think PS3 is a success. Because all the facts that matter point to it being a failure. Sorry.

stayhigh1

[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]I never said killzone 2 was more popular than Mario, where are you pulling stuff from?AlexSays

don't bring up mario/zelda cause many people have no interest in thoseRhubarb9

and PSX and PS2 ran circles around N64 and GC in sales, popularity and everything

PS3 lineup completley owns wii lineup and even KZ2 alone pwns it if you're not one of those 8 million hardcore sheep in love with mario/zelda
so I don't understand what you're trying to pull and from where.

and PSX and PS2 ran circles around N64 and GC in sales, popularity and everything

PS3 lineup completley owns wii lineup and even KZ2 alone pwns it if you're not one of those 8 million hardcore sheep in love with mario/zelda
so I don't understand what you're trying to pull and from where.

Rhubarb9

lol

You're turning this into something completely different because you know you weren't going anywhere.

More people are interested in Mario and Zelda, rather than Killzone 2.

That is a fact, and you were wrong.

Can you accept that or are you just going to keep on bringing up articles of discussion not related to the debate at hand?

Many people here trying pretty hard to justify their purchases.

Lab392

Indeed, each one simply jealous of what the other has that they don't. Fanboy wars at it's finest.

[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]

and PSX and PS2 ran circles around N64 and GC in sales, popularity and everything

PS3 lineup completley owns wii lineup and even KZ2 alone pwns it if you're not one of those 8 million hardcore sheep in love with mario/zelda
so I don't understand what you're trying to pull and from where.

AlexSays

lol

You're turning this into something completely different because you know you weren't going anywhere.

More people are interested in Mario and Zelda, rather than Killzone 2.

That is a fact, and you were wrong.

Can you accept that or are you just going to keep on bringing up articles of discussion not related to the debate at hand?

ok lets go on topic

if N64 was succesful selling put trashed against PSX
why can't PS3 be succesfull selling while not being nr1?
care to elaborate this?

I'm also wondering if you know good games can sell bad and bad games can sell well
wii games are a perfect example of this

And those 2 Mario games both outscored and outsold KZ2.

So there.

I hope they outsold Killzone 2 as the wii audience is nearly double the audience of the ps3. .

ok lets go on topic

if N64 was succesful selling put trashed against PSX
why can't PS3 be succesfull selling while not being nr1?
care to elaborate this?

I'm also wondering if you know good games can sell bad and bad games can sell well
wii games are a perfect example of this

Rhubarb9

Killzone was not on the PSX.

You said more people were interested in Killzone than Mario and Zelda.

Provide proof for this, please.

Nothing you just posted has anything to do with the popularity of Killzone, Mario, or Zelda.

Hey, if you have to, just say it was a bad choice of wording on your part and we can let this whole thing go. ;)

[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]
ok lets go on topic

if N64 was succesful selling put trashed against PSX
why can't PS3 be succesfull selling while not being nr1?
care to elaborate this?

I'm also wondering if you know good games can sell bad and bad games can sell well
wii games are a perfect example of this

AlexSays

Killzone was not on the PSX.

You said more people were interested in Killzone than Mario and Zelda.

Provide proof for this, please.

Nothing you just posted has anything to do with the popularity of Killzone, Mario, or Zelda.

Hey, if you have to, just say it was a bad choice of wording on your part and we can let this whole thing go. ;)

all I said was alot of people aren't intrested in mario/Zelda

getting desperate much?Rhubarb9

Ah, you implied Killzone was more popular than Mario and Zelda.

And I said that's wrong.

Especially when way more people care about those franchises, instead of your beloved KIllzone.

I'm not sure how I can be desperate when you're the one grasping for straws, chief.

You lack reading comprehension? I said it trashed the whole wii's lineup unless you're a hardcore mario/zelda fanRhubarb9

Ah, see it's hard to argue with someone who doesn't read what they post.

don't bring up mario/zelda cause many people have no interest in thoseRhubarb9

You brought this up in direct comparisons to Killzone.

You said people have no interest in Mario or Zelda but they do in Killzone.

Now we both know that is wrong, and has been proven, so can we move on with our lives, or are you going to continue denying what you posted?

[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]You lack reading comprehension? I said it trashed the whole wii's lineup unless you're a hardcore mario/zelda fanAlexSays

Ah, see it's hard to argue with someone who doesn't read what they post.

don't bring up mario/zelda cause many people have no interest in thoseRhubarb9

You brought this up in direct comparisons to Killzone.

You said people have no interest in Mario or Zelda but they do in Killzone.

Now we both know that is wrong, and has been proven, so can we move on with our lives, or are you going to continue denying what you posted?

I never directly compared mario/zelda with KZ2
can you read btw?

I never directly compared mario/zelda with KZ2Rhubarb9

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]No you're wrong. KZ2 doesn't own the whole Wii lineup, especially when you have SMG and Brawl in that list.Rhubarb9

[QUOTE="Rockman999"]It's no different from Lems considering Halo and GeOW good and sheep with Mario(definition of Shallow).Bigboi500

I mean think about it, in Halo you are trying to save the world from aliens (cliched, over-used and tired scenario), you start at one end of a map and work your way to a destination, you use weapons to destroy an enemy and get upgrades along the way.

Gears of War same thing. You are trying to save the world from aliens (cliched, over-used and tired scenario), you start at one end of a level and work your way to a destination, you use weapons to destroy an enemy and get upgrades along the way.

God of War similar scenario, you are out for revenge against a terrible wrong and betrayal against you (cliched, over-used and tired scenario), you start at one end of...sheesh do you get the picture yet? Mario games have the same basic goals and scenarios, save the princess blah blah blah, kill enemies blah blah blah, get more powerful weapons to destroy enemies in a better way blah blah blah. See the similarities?

Saying one is shallow because you prefer another companies characters, weapons, etc. is just the same old fanboy talk that gets regurgitated over and over again, how very boring.

I never directly compared mario/zelda with KZ2
can you read btw?

Rhubarb9

yes you did:

yeah but if you're gonna argue with me (about killzone 2)don't bring up mario/zelda cause many people have no interest in those
that's why gamecube sold so little...

Rhubarb9

[QUOTE="AlexSays"]

[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]all I said was alot of people aren't intrested in mario/Zelda

getting desperate much?Rhubarb9

Ah, you implied Killzone was more popular than Mario and Zelda.

And I said that's wrong.

Especially when way more people care about those franchises, instead of your beloved KIllzone.

I'm not sure how I can be desperate when you're the one grasping for straws, chief.

Lulz, KZ2 trashes the whole wii line up? That's funny, KZ2 is good but no one game trashes anothers line up. Especially when those Mario and Zelda games out rank it by quite a bit.