Mario 3-D Land isn't good.

i just bought the game online yesterday...figured i might as well join the party..

about rayman origins...i played the demo on 3ds and its ok but the charcaters and music and stuff is too kiddy for me....way more than mario.

i feel bad that i wont buy rayman legends because its a wiiU exclusive.

[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

[QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

When it comes to Mario I don't really judge how difficult they are by how many lives you get/lose or how many game overs you get, since Mario games due tend to get VERY generous with extra lives. A better way to judge the games' difficulty is by how many times you die and have to restart levels.

This is probably one of the biggest reasons why Mario and other platformers should probably try to imitate what Super Meat Boy did. cuts out the unnecessary 1-ups.

Shinobishyguy

Problem is, I died like 3-5 times throughout the game.

The first 9 worlds, I lost any interest after that.

Between the recycled worlds after world 8 and the fact that the game still hadnt challanged me, I lost my will to continue playing.

3D land wasn't amazing, but neither is Origins. If you ask me, Origins is hugely overrated by fans.

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="Bad-School-Girl"]

The analog controls are awkward and inaccurate, the level designs lack creativity and are just a bunch of ugly blocks floating in the air. One of the most overrated games this gen. If you want an actual good, well thought out platformer, check out Rayman Origins. Not this overrated garbage.

Minishdriveby

IM so tired of SW overhyping any game that is pretty good and make it seems like it beats every other game. especially genres nintendo are really good in.

RO is great i platinumed it but it isnt gods gift to platformers and the music is beyond annoying

it fits the game but the only interesting song to me was when you went through them portals with all the lums after you beat a boss level. and the sea water song which was like alien mix with a little blues.

the music still sucked though maybe i have to hear the OST:P

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="Bad-School-Girl"]

The analog controls are awkward and inaccurate, the level designs lack creativity and are just a bunch of ugly blocks floating in the air. One of the most overrated games this gen. If you want an actual good, well thought out platformer, check out Rayman Origins. Not this overrated garbage.

campzor

IM so tired of SW overhyping any game that is pretty good and make it seems like it beats every other game. especially genres nintendo are really good in.

RO is great i platinumed it but it isnt gods gift to platformers and the music is beyond annoying

and this is why you are like the only cow i understand. we think the same yo!

[QUOTE="campzor"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

IM so tired of SW overhyping any game that is pretty good and make it seems like it beats every other game. especially genres nintendo are really good in.

RO is great i platinumed it but it isnt gods gift to platformers and the music is beyond annoying

Pikminmaniac

IMHO Rayman Origins is at the top of platforming right now and it has one of the best soundtracks this gen.

it is at the top, i dont compare it to galaxy BECAUSE galaxy is 3d but its one of my fav platformers this gen no doubt. since SW has a disdain for nintendo any game thats good thats not made by them is always better then what nintendo makes or any other popular franchise. its that hipster mentality that annoys me.

Overrated? Hardly anyone talks about it:?

Animal-Mother

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

Overrated? Hardly anyone talks about it:?

Bad-School-Girl

RO is probably your only example since it is the only other good platformer not nintendo owned

I agree with you!

It's the worst Mario I've played EVER.

It doesn't feel Original at all. The 3D effect is ok, but everything just felt Bland.

It's like Mario hit his Peak at Galaxy 2 and is now Sliding down to Retirement.

LegatoSkyheart

It does not have the creativity of the Galaxy games, the game is somehow very bland and incredible reminiscent of New Super Mario series which should be entirely different art direction, styles, and gameplay.

I agree with you!

It's the worst Mario I've played EVER.

It doesn't feel Original at all. The 3D effect is ok, but everything just felt Bland.

It's like Mario hit his Peak at Galaxy 2 and is now Sliding down to Retirement.

LegatoSkyheart

It does not have the creativity of the Galaxy games, the game is somehow very bland and incredible reminiscent of New Super Mario series which should be entirely different art direction, styles, and gameplay.

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

I agree with you!

It's the worst Mario I've played EVER.

It doesn't feel Original at all. The 3D effect is ok, but everything just felt Bland.

It's like Mario hit his Peak at Galaxy 2 and is now Sliding down to Retirement.

mexicangordo

It does not have the creativity of the Galaxy games, the game is somehow very bland and incredible reminiscent of New Super Mario series which should be entirely different art direction, styles, and gameplay.

i just bought the game online yesterday...figured i might as well join the party..

about rayman origins...i played the demo on 3ds and its ok but the charcaters and music and stuff is too kiddy for me....way more than mario.

i feel bad that i wont buy rayman legends because its a wiiU exclusive.

KBFloYd

I know exactly what you mean. It's the immature/childish kind of kiddy whereas Nintendo games are merely kid-friendly. I hate the character design and music too, the rest is fine, but it makes it difficult for me to play the game. I tried the PS3 demo.

I'll probably get Legends at some point as I'm a sucker for new gameplay, it does some neat things with the gamepad.

I know it's not good, it's GREAT!

Bigboi500

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

I agree with you!

It's the worst Mario I've played EVER.

It doesn't feel Original at all. The 3D effect is ok, but everything just felt Bland.

It's like Mario hit his Peak at Galaxy 2 and is now Sliding down to Retirement.

mexicangordo

It does not have the creativity of the Galaxy games, the game is somehow very bland and incredible reminiscent of New Super Mario series which should be entirely different art direction, styles, and gameplay.

You can't pull off Galaxy-scale on 3DS running smoothly plus you need the zoomed in perspective in small environments to best utilize the 3D effect.

They're all design choices, you are free to like/dislike the new direction, but bear in mind this is EAD Tokyo we are talking about, Wii U 3D Mario is going to be shockingly amazing.

3D Land reeks of NSMB because it's made with the same cost-effective model in mind. Minimalist soundtrack, recycling of assets and low in content. 3DL and home console 3D Marios have different target audiences (with some overlap of course).

I feel lucky because I appreciate both types. I like the more gamey & light hearted 3D Land as well as the more epic, large scale, AAA 3D Mario for diffrerent reasons.

Let me demonstrate what I mean: 3D Land vs Galaxy 2. I'm betting most people on SW consider Galaxy 2 to be "better". It's orchestrated and more sophisticated as opposed to a simple bleep-bloop tune, but I like both equally.

I thought it was really good, but waay too easy. The level design, and 3d worked really well though. I still think it is the best game on the 3DS.

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

I agree with you!

It's the worst Mario I've played EVER.

It doesn't feel Original at all. The 3D effect is ok, but everything just felt Bland.

It's like Mario hit his Peak at Galaxy 2 and is now Sliding down to Retirement.

SuperFlakeman

It does not have the creativity of the Galaxy games, the game is somehow very bland and incredible reminiscent of New Super Mario series which should be entirely different art direction, styles, and gameplay.

You can't pull off Galaxy-scale on 3DS running smoothly plus you need the zoomed in perspective in small environments to best utilize the 3D effect.

They're all design choices, you are free to like/dislike the new direction, but bear in mind this is EAD Tokyo we are talking about, Wii U 3D Mario is going to be shockingly amazing.

3D Land reeks of NSMB because it's made with the same cost-effective model in mind. Minimalist soundtrack, recycling of assets and low in content. 3DL and home console 3D Marios have different target audiences (with some overlap of course).

I feel lucky because I appreciate both types. I like the more gamey & light hearted 3D Land as well as the more epic, large scale, AAA 3D Mario for diffrerent reasons.

Let me demonstrate what I mean: 3D Land vs Galaxy 2. I'm betting most people on SW consider Galaxy 2 to be "better". It's orchestrated and more sophisticated as opposed to a simple bleep-bloop tune, but I like both equally.

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

I agree with you!

It's the worst Mario I've played EVER.

It doesn't feel Original at all. The 3D effect is ok, but everything just felt Bland.

It's like Mario hit his Peak at Galaxy 2 and is now Sliding down to Retirement.

SuperFlakeman

It does not have the creativity of the Galaxy games, the game is somehow very bland and incredible reminiscent of New Super Mario series which should be entirely different art direction, styles, and gameplay.

You can't pull off Galaxy-scale on 3DS running smoothly plus you need the zoomed in perspective in small environments to best utilize the 3D effect.

They're all design choices, you are free to like/dislike the new direction, but bear in mind this is EAD Tokyo we are talking about, Wii U 3D Mario is going to be shockingly amazing.

3D Land reeks of NSMB because it's made with the same cost-effective model in mind. Minimalist soundtrack, recycling of assets and low in content. 3DL and home console 3D Marios have different target audiences (with some overlap of course).

I feel lucky because I appreciate both types. I like the more gamey & light hearted 3D Land as well as the more epic, large scale, AAA 3D Mario for diffrerent reasons.

Let me demonstrate what I mean: 3D Land vs Galaxy 2. I'm betting most people on SW consider Galaxy 2 to be "better". It's orchestrated and more sophisticated as opposed to a simple bleep-bloop tune, but I like both equally.

While Mario is one of my favourite series, I have to agree with TC here. 3D Land is one of his weakest outings.

-I hate how the game is so easy (including the secret worlds).

-The secret worlds were basically a rehash of the original game except with shadow Mario in nearly every level.

-The game had a linear map screen.

-The 3D is beyond overrated. It sounds like Nintendo PR when people say "It's the best use of 3D". I can easily think of 5 games which had better use of 3D (Resident Evil Revelations, Snake Eater, Kingdom Hearts 3D, Pushmo, Mutant Mudds, etc).

Keep in mind that I've beaten the game 100%.

While Mario is one of my favourite series, I have to agree with TC here. 3D Land is one of his weakest outings.

-I hate how the game is so easy (including the secret worlds).

-The secret worlds were basically a rehash of the original game except with shadow Mario in nearly every level.

-The game had a linear map screen.

-The 3D is beyond overrated. It sounds like Nintendo PR when people say "It's the best use of 3D". I can easily think of 5 games which had better use of 3D (Resident Evil Revelations, Snake Eater, Kingdom Hearts 3D, Pushmo, Mutant Mudds, etc).

Keep in mind that I've beaten the game 100%.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

Overrated? Hardly anyone talks about it:?

Bad-School-Girl

[QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"] I wouldn't say it sliding down to retirement but I would have to agree, and this is coming from a huge Ninty fan. 3D land has to be my least favorite Mario game I have every played.

It does not have the creativity of the Galaxy games, the game is somehow very bland and incredible reminiscent of New Super Mario series which should be entirely different art direction, styles, and gameplay.

locopatho

You can't pull off Galaxy-scale on 3DS running smoothly plus you need the zoomed in perspective in small environments to best utilize the 3D effect.

They're all design choices, you are free to like/dislike the new direction, but bear in mind this is EAD Tokyo we are talking about, Wii U 3D Mario is going to be shockingly amazing.

3D Land reeks of NSMB because it's made with the same cost-effective model in mind. Minimalist soundtrack, recycling of assets and low in content. 3DL and home console 3D Marios have different target audiences (with some overlap of course).

I feel lucky because I appreciate both types. I like the more gamey & light hearted 3D Land as well as the more epic, large scale, AAA 3D Mario for diffrerent reasons.

Let me demonstrate what I mean: 3D Land vs Galaxy 2. I'm betting most people on SW consider Galaxy 2 to be "better". It's orchestrated and more sophisticated as opposed to a simple bleep-bloop tune, but I like both equally.

I mean as much flak as people give nintendo for rehashing the NSMB series they atleast tried something new with this title

While Mario is one of my favourite series, I have to agree with TC here. 3D Land is one of his weakest outings.

-I hate how the game is so easy (including the secret worlds).

-The secret worlds were basically a rehash of the original game except with shadow Mario in nearly every level.

-The game had a linear map screen.

-The 3D is beyond overrated. It sounds like Nintendo PR when people say "It's the best use of 3D". I can easily think of 5 games which had better use of 3D (Resident Evil Revelations, Snake Eater, Kingdom Hearts 3D, Pushmo, Mutant Mudds, etc).

Keep in mind that I've beaten the game 100%.

nintendoman562

It's like saying Skyrim isn't good. All based on personal opinions or hipster-like hatred.

It was only a matter of time until this thread appeared.

Mario platformers are becoming tiresome and very boring. They should just focus on releasing 2 Full budget mario adventure games for their consoles per generation.

God, for a game where you jump so often the jumping is really clunky. I'm on Special World 5-Castle and forgot that lava is OHK, another stupid change they took from the 2D games. Blabadon

Personally, I found the lava in the 3D mario's too forgiving. It should kill you in one hit. The jumping in 3D Land is also very forgiving because you have a high range of control over Mario in the air. At least that'show I feel.

[QUOTE="Blabadon"]God, for a game where you jump so often the jumping is really clunky. I'm on Special World 5-Castle and forgot that lava is OHK, another stupid change they took from the 2D games. Pikminmaniac

Personally, I found the lava in the 3D mario's too forgiving. It should kill you in one hit. The jumping in 3D Land is also very forgiving because you have a high range of control over Mario in the air. At least that'show I feel.

I tried Rayman Origins and found it overhyped myself.

Nice visuals but so-so gameplay imo.

I can't speak on 3D Land's behalf since I haven't played it yet, but from what I've seen of it, it looks like a nice throwback to the SMB,3 theme but in 3D.

I've also noticed it's a bit slower-paced (to accomodate the smaller levels and "3D") and that it likely doesn't have as creative level design as the Galaxy games have, but it still looks like a game I'd enjoy playing.

[QUOTE="Pikminmaniac"]

[QUOTE="Blabadon"]God, for a game where you jump so often the jumping is really clunky. I'm on Special World 5-Castle and forgot that lava is OHK, another stupid change they took from the 2D games. Blabadon

Personally, I found the lava in the 3D mario's too forgiving. It should kill you in one hit. The jumping in 3D Land is also very forgiving because you have a high range of control over Mario in the air. At least that'show I feel.