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#1 Nin360
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In an industry where 9/10 games are shooters and have "serious" storylines. If it's not sports or driving it's shooters. Every game tries to be "realistic" and people have forgotten fantasy is part of a good story. I could count a very small number of rpgs or platformers this generation. I could count on one hand how many of those are worth the price.

Galaxy is a refreshing twist and looks to have that mario magic that we have not seen in a long time. Fanboys can hate but they know deep down that mario is the man.

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#2 MrEpyx
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In an industry where 9/10 games are shooters and have "serious" storylines. If it's not sports or driving it's shooters. Every game tries to be "realistic" and people have forgotten fantasy is part of a good story. I could count a very small number of rpgs or platformers this generation. I could count on one hand how many of those are worth the price.

Galaxy is a refreshing twist and looks to have that mario magic that we have not seen in a long time. Fanboys can hate but they know deep down that mario is the man.

Nin360

Refreshing twist? Its another Mario platformer.. Gee how original..

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#3 CJL13
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There is such a thing as a deep fantasy story.
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#4 -D3MO-
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...yea an R&C is AAA on Gamespot
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#5 Sir-Marwin105
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The industry is at the top of it's game right now. I do think Mario will be fun though.
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#6 Nin360
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[QUOTE="Nin360"]

In an industry where 9/10 games are shooters and have "serious" storylines. If it's not sports or driving it's shooters. Every game tries to be "realistic" and people have forgotten fantasy is part of a good story. I could count a very small number of rpgs or platformers this generation. I could count on one hand how many of those are worth the price.

Galaxy is a refreshing twist and looks to have that mario magic that we have not seen in a long time. Fanboys can hate but they know deep down that mario is the man.

MrEpyx

Refreshing twist? Its another Mario platformer.. Gee how original..

HOw many mario platformers have revolutionzed the industry? I thought so.

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#7 Slurms_M
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well if all sports and driving games only take up one tenth of all games made you would think people would stop complaining about it.
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#8 Slurms_M
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[QUOTE="MrEpyx"][QUOTE="Nin360"]

In an industry where 9/10 games are shooters and have "serious" storylines. If it's not sports or driving it's shooters. Every game tries to be "realistic" and people have forgotten fantasy is part of a good story. I could count a very small number of rpgs or platformers this generation. I could count on one hand how many of those are worth the price.

Galaxy is a refreshing twist and looks to have that mario magic that we have not seen in a long time. Fanboys can hate but they know deep down that mario is the man.

Nin360

Refreshing twist? Its another Mario platformer.. Gee how original..

HOw many mario platformers have revolutionzed the industry? I thought so.

rofl all of dem

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#9 evilross
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refreshing twist???? something new?? Im sure it'll be a fun play through, but come on....

what the game industry needs is games like Mass Effect that blur the lines of quality storytelling and acting between games and film, and pushes the industry forward as a platform for creative minds from all fields... not a platformer in the veins of games from 20 years ago.

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#10 jechtshot78
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Um...lmao....No. It won't.
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[QUOTE="Nin360"][QUOTE="MrEpyx"][QUOTE="Nin360"]

In an industry where 9/10 games are shooters and have "serious" storylines. If it's not sports or driving it's shooters. Every game tries to be "realistic" and people have forgotten fantasy is part of a good story. I could count a very small number of rpgs or platformers this generation. I could count on one hand how many of those are worth the price.

Galaxy is a refreshing twist and looks to have that mario magic that we have not seen in a long time. Fanboys can hate but they know deep down that mario is the man.

Slurms_M

Refreshing twist? Its another Mario platformer.. Gee how original..

HOw many mario platformers have revolutionzed the industry? I thought so.

rofl all of dem

R&C sure as hell didn't.

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#12 darth-pyschosis
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[QUOTE="Nin360"]

In an industry where 9/10 games are shooters and have "serious" storylines. If it's not sports or driving it's shooters. Every game tries to be "realistic" and people have forgotten fantasy is part of a good story. I could count a very small number of rpgs or platformers this generation. I could count on one hand how many of those are worth the price.

Galaxy is a refreshing twist and looks to have that mario magic that we have not seen in a long time. Fanboys can hate but they know deep down that mario is the man.

MrEpyx

Refreshing twist? Its another Mario platformer.. Gee how original..

Evil Aliens invade earth (insert home planet) and with a powerful weapon try to destroy all the human race holds dear.

See what I did there? I just introduced everyone to the concept of Gears, Halo, BlackSite, Doom (well technically you go to Mars and its more of hellbeasts than aliens so i guess not so much) Resistance: Fall of Man

how original?

Theres a difference from doing something well but not original, and doing something well than you invented.

Mario invented almost all the good things you like in Gaming and in Game Design and continues to give us quality products.

If you can't see that than gaming really does need this game to be its savior.

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#13 Slurms_M
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R&C sure as hell didn't.

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good thing R&C isnt a mario game than

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#14 Thompsonwhore
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Some people are just so overbearingly confident in the success of their favorite franchise.
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#15 Zerostatic0
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I don't really see it as an industry savior but I do think it could be one of the best games to come out in a very long time. I watch vids of Galaxy and I just get mezmorized, the game is busting at the seams with creativity. Whatever that indescribable quality that Super Mario 64, Super Mario World, and Super Mario Bros. 3 had is clearly in this game. Considering that someone can make a case for any of those 3 to be the greatest game of all time, you can just imagine how good Galaxy might be.
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#16 darth-pyschosis
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I'm sorry I'm going to love Mass Effect and all but Mass Effect is Knights of the Old Republic with RE 4 style gameplay perspective.

It will be good but I don't imagine that game will be as original as say, Spore, though it will do what it does very well.

like i said theres a huge difference between doing something well but not original and doing something well that you invented.

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#17 DmdSATISFACTIO
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i r savIOR
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[QUOTE="Nin360"]

In an industry where 9/10 games are shooters and have "serious" storylines. If it's not sports or driving it's shooters. Every game tries to be "realistic" and people have forgotten fantasy is part of a good story. I could count a very small number of rpgs or platformers this generation. I could count on one hand how many of those are worth the price.

Galaxy is a refreshing twist and looks to have that mario magic that we have not seen in a long time. Fanboys can hate but they know deep down that mario is the man.

MrEpyx

Refreshing twist? Its another Mario platformer.. Gee how original..

The last one scored 9.0 on GS... So looks like the magic hasn't died down.
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[QUOTE="MrEpyx"][QUOTE="Nin360"]

In an industry where 9/10 games are shooters and have "serious" storylines. If it's not sports or driving it's shooters. Every game tries to be "realistic" and people have forgotten fantasy is part of a good story. I could count a very small number of rpgs or platformers this generation. I could count on one hand how many of those are worth the price.

Galaxy is a refreshing twist and looks to have that mario magic that we have not seen in a long time. Fanboys can hate but they know deep down that mario is the man.

darth-pyschosis

Refreshing twist? Its another Mario platformer.. Gee how original..

Evil Aliens invade earth (insert home planet) and with a powerful weapon try to destroy all the human race holds dear.

See what I did there? I just introduced everyone to the concept of Gears, Halo, BlackSite, Doom (well technically you go to Mars and its more of hellbeasts than aliens so i guess not so much) Resistance: Fall of Man

how original?

Theres a difference from doing something well but not original, and doing something well than you invented.

Mario invented almost all the good things you like in Gaming and in Game Design and continues to give us quality products.

If you can't see that than gaming really does need this game to be its savior.

There are no aliens in Gears and humans have the Superior technology. And that barely describes Halo.

Also you've just described the story of Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time.

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BioShock,Mass Effect.. games like that is what moves the industry foward..

Not a Mario Platformer that has the same exact story from 20 years ago(princess peach kidnapped and who u ahve to defeat bowzer to rescue her)..

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I have to admit that i'm getting tired of games that are intense struggles for the hope of humanity with blinding realism.

Sometimes I just want to sit back and play something that's just fun and nothing else. I'm waiting on zack and wiki but galaxy is the real goods. another game like that is gta4. Those games will make assassin's creed and re5 much more enjoyable imo

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#22 madsnakehhh
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Not the savior because the industry is not in danger, of course in money therms, but one thing is sure, we have a lack of originality in games, i mean we have tons of Zelda games (which i really love), tons of Metroid, Halo, Half Life, and all, some are really goods, some other aren't, but where is the creativity, we need more Viva Piñatas, more Zack and Wiki, and of course games like GALAXY, like always Mario is going to re-invent the games or at least the way we look games.
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#23 Nin360
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I agree that mass effect with push the industry, but also games like mario as well. People forget that.
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BioShock,Mass Effect.. games like that is what moves the industry foward..

Not a Mario Platformer that has the same exact story from 20 years ago(princess peach kidnapped and who u ahve to defeat bowzer to rescue her)..

FantasySports00

Did you seriously start gaming with the xbox?

Mario 64 doesn't ring any bells?

Bioshock is not moving the industry forward any more then most other games out right now, in fact i'm sure some would argue the opposite.. ie dumbed down system shock 2. If you mean these games are moving the industry forward by being more cinematic, mario galaxy happens to be that as well(read some previews, and watch some of the intro videos).

People are starting to equate the advancement of video games with stories and graphics.. people are forgetting that games are supposed to be about fun. A story with twists and turns are not needed..

oh, and i'd also like to say a story is more then what we hear in dialogue.. it's the overall adventure. And mario games have had fantastic adventures, with amazing locations and incredible platforming.

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#25 Nin360
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BioShock,Mass Effect.. games like that is what moves the industry foward..

Not a Mario Platformer that has the same exact story from 20 years ago(princess peach kidnapped and who u ahve to defeat bowzer to rescue her)..

FantasySports00

I love those 2 games but people like you are blind. Mario pushes the industry jsut as much or even omre then bioshock. Mass Effect looks to be truelly revolutionary. Bioshock was system shock 2. A fps with a good storty thats it. I seen nothing new in Bioshock. Mario looks to be refreshing and add something we have not seen in a long time to gaming.

People like you are too blind to see. Enjoy all of your "harcore" games. I like all types of games.

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[QUOTE="Nin360"]

In an industry where 9/10 games are shooters and have "serious" storylines. If it's not sports or driving it's shooters. Every game tries to be "realistic" and people have forgotten fantasy is part of a good story. I could count a very small number of rpgs or platformers this generation. I could count on one hand how many of those are worth the price.

Galaxy is a refreshing twist and looks to have that mario magic that we have not seen in a long time. Fanboys can hate but they know deep down that mario is the man.

MrEpyx

Refreshing twist? Its another Mario platformer.. Gee how original..

I know, three 3-D platformers in three generations is so overdone. :roll: Especially when one of them breaks away
from the formula by becoming a partial 3rd person shooter. :roll:

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#27 Nin360
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Alot of these guys can't grasp a concept of a game without an awesome story and blasting the crap out of stuff. Fun is the #1 reason why we play games. Mario is all about fun. It's hard to look at galaxy and not feel a little happy inside. Enough said!
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Without galaxy then the videogame industry would just die in a just a few years. I'm quite glad that SMG is coming because I like videogames.
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I find it funny that people scoff at the statement in your topic title.. as if its unthinkable.

Perhaps savior is not quite the right word, but a breath of fresh air into the industry? A masterpiece unlike anything? Truelly that is more then possible.

Have people forgetten Super Mario Bros. Am i too old? What about Super Mario Bros 3? Super Mario World? Super Mario 64? The impact these games have had on the industry is incredible, its ridiculous to think that one platforming franchise could have done so much on its own,but it did.. people forget too easily.

EDIT: People who write mario off for being unoriginal are crazy. They're too focused on all of the mario spinoffs and forget how many mario platformers there have been, and how different each is, not to mention how nearly each one pushes the genre. People write off galaxy because its yet another mario game, but we've only seen 2 3d mario platformers!! bloody two! In 10 years we'll have seen 3! And the second had mario utilize a water gun for most of the game! Really, to this day we've seen more halo games then 3d mario platformers, and halo started around the time sunshine did, the 2nd mario 3d game.

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#30 Nin360
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I find it funny that people scoff at the statement in your topic title.. as if its unthinkable.

Perhaps savior is not quite the right word, but a breath of fresh air into the industry? A masterpiece unlike anything? Truelly that is more then possible.

Have people forgetten Super Mario Bros. Am i too old? What about Super Mario Bros 3? Super Mario World? Super Mario 64? The impact these games have had on the industry is incredible, its ridiculous to think that one platforming franchise could have done so much on its own,but it did.. people forget too easily.

blahzor

The major problem is that most of these people are kids are teens. Most are too young to remember how Mario reinvented the industry several times over. I call these PLaystation era kids. They grew up with Sony and will defend it no matter what. I know, you know, and most people know that the ps3 is not worth the price because of the lack of games. These kids grew up with playstation so of course they got to have it. These kids dont' like mario because it's like thier rival or something. When they finally get smart and not be loyal to a company then they will have a more broad of a view.

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#31 FantasySports00
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BioShock,Mass Effect.. games like that is what moves the industry foward..

Not a Mario Platformer that has the same exact story from 20 years ago(princess peach kidnapped and who u ahve to defeat bowzer to rescue her)..

Nin360

I love those 2 games but people like you are blind. Mario pushes the industry jsut as much or even omre then bioshock. Mass Effect looks to be truelly revolutionary. Bioshock was system shock 2. A fps with a good storty thats it. I seen nothing new in Bioshock. Mario looks to be refreshing and add something we have not seen in a long time to gaming.

People like you are too blind to see. Enjoy all of your "harcore" games. I like all types of games.

BioShock had the best Story,atmosphere and voice acting I've ever seen for a video game.. It was film quality.. If that isn't pushing the industry foward then no game can..

I'm sorry.. but Mario Galaxy while fun and great.. isn't innovative in any way.. doesn't do anything "new".. has the same old story.. doesn't even have voice acting..

The game will be great but nothing "industry saving" like you seem to think

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[QUOTE="Nin360"][QUOTE="FantasySports00"]

BioShock,Mass Effect.. games like that is what moves the industry foward..

Not a Mario Platformer that has the same exact story from 20 years ago(princess peach kidnapped and who u ahve to defeat bowzer to rescue her)..

FantasySports00

I love those 2 games but people like you are blind. Mario pushes the industry jsut as much or even omre then bioshock. Mass Effect looks to be truelly revolutionary. Bioshock was system shock 2. A fps with a good storty thats it. I seen nothing new in Bioshock. Mario looks to be refreshing and add something we have not seen in a long time to gaming.

People like you are too blind to see. Enjoy all of your "harcore" games. I like all types of games.

BioShock had the best Story,atmosphere and voice acting I've ever seen for a video game.. It was film quality.. If that isn't pushing the industry foward then no game can..

I'm sorry.. but Mario Galaxy while fun and great.. isn't innovative in any way.. doesn't do anything "new".. has the same old story.. doesn't even have voice acting..

The game will be great but nothing "industry saving" like you seem to think

How does something need voice-acting to be industry saving. Might I remind you that Sunshine had voice-acting, and it didn't turn out to well. Not because of bad voice-actors, but simply because it didn't fit. As for not doing anything new? Where have you seen a game that uses gravity and orientation like this game does.

Not to mention that this is a game from one of the best series, made by THE best developer. Quality alone is what is bringing a light to an industry focused too much on one genre, and similair games.

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BioShock had the best Story,atmosphere and voice acting I've ever seen for a video game.. It was film quality.. If that isn't pushing the industry foward then no game can..

I'm sorry.. but Mario Galaxy while fun and great.. isn't innovative in any way.. doesn't do anything "new".. has the same old story.. doesn't even have voice acting..

The game will be great but nothing "industry saving" like you seem to think

FantasySports00

Again, you're assuming that the only place teh game industry can go is towards movie like quality.

Story, atmosphere, and VA are all things that have been done VERY well before bioshock, it's not like this is the first time we've seen it, or even the first time we've seen it done amazingly well.

Prove that Mario Galaxy isn't innovative. And please, don't forget to discuss gameplay, you know what most games are supposed to be about :P

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#34 FantasySports00
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[QUOTE="FantasySports00"][QUOTE="Nin360"][QUOTE="FantasySports00"]

BioShock,Mass Effect.. games like that is what moves the industry foward..

Not a Mario Platformer that has the same exact story from 20 years ago(princess peach kidnapped and who u ahve to defeat bowzer to rescue her)..

Tylendal

I love those 2 games but people like you are blind. Mario pushes the industry jsut as much or even omre then bioshock. Mass Effect looks to be truelly revolutionary. Bioshock was system shock 2. A fps with a good storty thats it. I seen nothing new in Bioshock. Mario looks to be refreshing and add something we have not seen in a long time to gaming.

People like you are too blind to see. Enjoy all of your "harcore" games. I like all types of games.

BioShock had the best Story,atmosphere and voice acting I've ever seen for a video game.. It was film quality.. If that isn't pushing the industry foward then no game can..

I'm sorry.. but Mario Galaxy while fun and great.. isn't innovative in any way.. doesn't do anything "new".. has the same old story.. doesn't even have voice acting..

The game will be great but nothing "industry saving" like you seem to think

How does something need voice-acting to be industry saving. Might I remind you that Sunshine had voice-acting, and it didn't turn out to well. Not because of bad voice-actors, but simply because it didn't fit. As for not doing anything new? Where have you seen a game that uses gravity and orientation like this game does.

Not to mention that this is a game from one of the best series, made by THE best developer. Quality alone is what is bringing a light to an industry focused too much on one genre, and similair games.

But how in the world does SMG push the industry foward?!?!?!?!? We had never seen before the quality story,voice acting and atmosphere and game mechanics all together in one game before..That's why BioShock pushed the industry forward..

What does SMG do? I guess the gravity thing is cool no doubt but has been done before(prey anyone)

And I'm sorry.. Voice acting is needed.. Just because it didn't work well in SMS doesn't mean the devs can't get it to work on SMG.. All you need to do is put effort into it!! Honestly.. Zelda,paper Mario.. both those games desperatly needed voice acting..

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#35 FantasySports00
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BioShock had the best Story,atmosphere and voice acting I've ever seen for a video game.. It was film quality.. If that isn't pushing the industry foward then no game can..

I'm sorry.. but Mario Galaxy while fun and great.. isn't innovative in any way.. doesn't do anything "new".. has the same old story.. doesn't even have voice acting..

The game will be great but nothing "industry saving" like you seem to think

blahzor

Again, you're assuming that the only place teh game industry can go is towards movie like quality.

Story, atmosphere, and VA are all things that have been done VERY well before bioshock, it's not like this is the first time we've seen it, or even the first time we've seen it done amazingly well.

Prove that Mario Galaxy isn't innovative. And please, don't forget to discuss gameplay, you know what most games are supposed to be about :P

How about you prove Mario Galaxy is innovative first and then I'll try and prove Galaxy isn't innovative..

Oh wait.. we both can't because we haven't even played the game..

so we'll just have to wait and see

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#36 blahzor
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[QUOTE="blahzor"][QUOTE="FantasySports00"]

BioShock had the best Story,atmosphere and voice acting I've ever seen for a video game.. It was film quality.. If that isn't pushing the industry foward then no game can..

I'm sorry.. but Mario Galaxy while fun and great.. isn't innovative in any way.. doesn't do anything "new".. has the same old story.. doesn't even have voice acting..

The game will be great but nothing "industry saving" like you seem to think

FantasySports00

Again, you're assuming that the only place teh game industry can go is towards movie like quality.

Story, atmosphere, and VA are all things that have been done VERY well before bioshock, it's not like this is the first time we've seen it, or even the first time we've seen it done amazingly well.

Prove that Mario Galaxy isn't innovative. And please, don't forget to discuss gameplay, you know what most games are supposed to be about :P

How about you prove Mario Galaxy is innovative first and then I'll try and prove Galaxy isn't innovative..

Oh wait.. we both can't because we haven't even played the game..

so we'll just have to wait and see

Ah hah! Got you with sean connery! (remember that ytmnd?.. alex trebek? no?)

I never once claimed that mario galaxy WOULD be incredibly innovative and would push the industry forward(at least, i didn't meant to if i accidently did :D).. you, on the other hand have out right dismissed mario galaxy.

So, you've admitted that you have no idea if mario galaxy will or will not push the industry forward, and you have no idea if it will or will not be innovative.

EDIT: I forgot to add the most important bit; "I think we're done here".

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#37 FantasySports00
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[QUOTE="FantasySports00"][QUOTE="blahzor"][QUOTE="FantasySports00"]

BioShock had the best Story,atmosphere and voice acting I've ever seen for a video game.. It was film quality.. If that isn't pushing the industry foward then no game can..

I'm sorry.. but Mario Galaxy while fun and great.. isn't innovative in any way.. doesn't do anything "new".. has the same old story.. doesn't even have voice acting..

The game will be great but nothing "industry saving" like you seem to think

blahzor

Again, you're assuming that the only place teh game industry can go is towards movie like quality.

Story, atmosphere, and VA are all things that have been done VERY well before bioshock, it's not like this is the first time we've seen it, or even the first time we've seen it done amazingly well.

Prove that Mario Galaxy isn't innovative. And please, don't forget to discuss gameplay, you know what most games are supposed to be about :P

How about you prove Mario Galaxy is innovative first and then I'll try and prove Galaxy isn't innovative..

Oh wait.. we both can't because we haven't even played the game..

so we'll just have to wait and see

Ah hah! Got you with sean connery! (remember that ytmnd?.. alex trebek? no?)

I never once claimed that mario galaxy WOULD be incredibly innovative and would push the industry forward(at least, i didn't meant to if i accidently did :D).. you, on the other hand have out right dismissed mario galaxy.

So, you've admitted that you have no idea if mario galaxy will or will not push the industry forward, and you have no idea if it will or will not be innovative.

EDIT: I forgot to add the most important bit; "I think we're done here".

We're all just speculating.. that's what this entire thread is about.. if Mario Galaxy pushes the industry forward or not!:|

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I can prove bioshock was not innovative. It was way overhyped. It was very short with little replay value unless you enjoy killing things over and over in different ways. I give you that the story of Andrew Ryan was intresting but I wouldn't even call it the best game this quarter.

Just because a game has a good story and voice actin does not make it evolutinary or different. I haven't played galaxy to say that it will be revolutionary. I can say that every video I have seen looks amazing and somethign I will enjoy playing. I get that you like bioshock but it was not an evolutionary title. Infact it was downright dumb in some ways. Alot of those plasmids were useless and you could beat the game using only the wrenth. The 2 endings were dumb and offered no real incentive on saving the girls are killing them.

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#39 FantasySports00
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"Would you kindly"

bleh.. w/e.. Mario Galaxy will be great.. wheather it pushes the industry forward is yet to be seen..

I have a feeling Mass Effect is the game that pushes the industry forward though

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I kinda agree with the TC, I need more games like Kameo, MediEvil and Gex. I'm starting to get "battle fatigue" from all the "hardcore" games that have released recently.
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#41 blahzor
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[QUOTE="blahzor"][QUOTE="FantasySports00"][QUOTE="blahzor"][QUOTE="FantasySports00"]

BioShock had the best Story,atmosphere and voice acting I've ever seen for a video game.. It was film quality.. If that isn't pushing the industry foward then no game can..

I'm sorry.. but Mario Galaxy while fun and great.. isn't innovative in any way.. doesn't do anything "new".. has the same old story.. doesn't even have voice acting..

The game will be great but nothing "industry saving" like you seem to think

FantasySports00

Again, you're assuming that the only place teh game industry can go is towards movie like quality.

Story, atmosphere, and VA are all things that have been done VERY well before bioshock, it's not like this is the first time we've seen it, or even the first time we've seen it done amazingly well.

Prove that Mario Galaxy isn't innovative. And please, don't forget to discuss gameplay, you know what most games are supposed to be about :P

How about you prove Mario Galaxy is innovative first and then I'll try and prove Galaxy isn't innovative..

Oh wait.. we both can't because we haven't even played the game..

so we'll just have to wait and see

Ah hah! Got you with sean connery! (remember that ytmnd?.. alex trebek? no?)

I never once claimed that mario galaxy WOULD be incredibly innovative and would push the industry forward(at least, i didn't meant to if i accidently did :D).. you, on the other hand have out right dismissed mario galaxy.

So, you've admitted that you have no idea if mario galaxy will or will not push the industry forward, and you have no idea if it will or will not be innovative.

EDIT: I forgot to add the most important bit; "I think we're done here".

We're all just speculating.. that's what this entire thread is about.. if Mario Galaxy pushes the industry forward or not!:|

I don't care what anybody else is doing, my motives are different. I entered a post in this thread soley to debate your statement that mario galaxy will not push the industry and is not innovative; while bioshock and other games were taking the only/correct route(or as it seemed you implied)

If you felt that this was your opinion, and believed you didn't have any evidence you should have made sure to site that. Or, remained neutral to mario galaxy. I mean, you outright said mario hasn't changed in 20 years, and that's already a lie.. hell, with what little we know of galaxy its easy to prove that it has at least some fairly important changes from any other mario game(spherical worlds concept).

Anyways,dont most revolutionary and innovative things come without warning?

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[QUOTE="FantasySports00"][QUOTE="blahzor"][QUOTE="FantasySports00"][QUOTE="blahzor"][QUOTE="FantasySports00"]

BioShock had the best Story,atmosphere and voice acting I've ever seen for a video game.. It was film quality.. If that isn't pushing the industry foward then no game can..

I'm sorry.. but Mario Galaxy while fun and great.. isn't innovative in any way.. doesn't do anything "new".. has the same old story.. doesn't even have voice acting..

The game will be great but nothing "industry saving" like you seem to think

blahzor

Again, you're assuming that the only place teh game industry can go is towards movie like quality.

Story, atmosphere, and VA are all things that have been done VERY well before bioshock, it's not like this is the first time we've seen it, or even the first time we've seen it done amazingly well.

Prove that Mario Galaxy isn't innovative. And please, don't forget to discuss gameplay, you know what most games are supposed to be about :P

How about you prove Mario Galaxy is innovative first and then I'll try and prove Galaxy isn't innovative..

Oh wait.. we both can't because we haven't even played the game..

so we'll just have to wait and see

Ah hah! Got you with sean connery! (remember that ytmnd?.. alex trebek? no?)

I never once claimed that mario galaxy WOULD be incredibly innovative and would push the industry forward(at least, i didn't meant to if i accidently did :D).. you, on the other hand have out right dismissed mario galaxy.

So, you've admitted that you have no idea if mario galaxy will or will not push the industry forward, and you have no idea if it will or will not be innovative.

EDIT: I forgot to add the most important bit; "I think we're done here".

We're all just speculating.. that's what this entire thread is about.. if Mario Galaxy pushes the industry forward or not!:|

I don't care what anybody else is doing, my motives are different. I entered a post in this thread soley to debate your statement that mario galaxy will not push the industry and is not innovative; while bioshock and other games were taking the only/correct route(or as it seemed you implied)

If you felt that this was your opinion, and believed you didn't have any evidence you should have made sure to site that. Or, remained neutral to mario galaxy.

Anyways,dont most revolutionary and innovative things come without warning?

Well from the videos I have seen.. It's the same old mario.. it's not even using the Motion Controls in some crazy way never seen before or something.. I don't understand how it can push the industry forward other than being an amazing game.. Just like Halo3 was.. it didn't do anything new or innvative but it is a great game.

Now maybe a FPS that masters the Motion Controls(especially online).. now that would push the industry forward..

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[QUOTE="MrEpyx"][QUOTE="Nin360"]

In an industry where 9/10 games are shooters and have "serious" storylines. If it's not sports or driving it's shooters. Every game tries to be "realistic" and people have forgotten fantasy is part of a good story. I could count a very small number of rpgs or platformers this generation. I could count on one hand how many of those are worth the price.

Galaxy is a refreshing twist and looks to have that mario magic that we have not seen in a long time. Fanboys can hate but they know deep down that mario is the man.

darth-pyschosis

Refreshing twist? Its another Mario platformer.. Gee how original..

Evil Aliens invade earth (insert home planet) and with a powerful weapon try to destroy all the human race holds dear.

See what I did there? I just introduced everyone to the concept of Gears, Halo, BlackSite, Doom (well technically you go to Mars and its more of hellbeasts than aliens so i guess not so much) Resistance: Fall of Man

how original?

Theres a difference from doing something well but not original, and doing something well than you invented.

Mario invented almost all the good things you like in Gaming and in Game Design and continues to give us quality products.

If you can't see that than gaming really does need this game to be its savior.

Dude.. You just self PWNED yourself.... in Gears.. their not aliens... They lived inside the earth... hence " EMERGENCE DAY " where they emerge from the ground... and sorry for any incorrect spelling...

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Well from the videos I have seen.. It's the same old mario.. it's not even using the Motion Controls in some crazy way never seen before or something.. I don't understand how it can push the industry forward other than being an amazing game.. Just like Halo3 was.. it didn't do anything new or innvative but it is a great game.

Now maybe a FPS that masters the Motion Controls(especially online).. now that would push the industry forward..

FantasySports00

Indeed i think it will just be a great game, nothing more , nothin less. Innovative? from videos ive seen doesnt look like it, just another great platformer. FYI we arent the one who started bashing smg for not being innovative, its the tc who stated every other game pretty much isnt so to all u sheep stop trying to twist stuff around.

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Some people are just so overbearingly confident in the success of their favorite franchise.Thompsonwhore

Its not my favorite but I know it will succeed.

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Well from the videos I have seen.. It's the same old mario.. it's not even using the Motion Controls in some crazy way never seen before or something.. I don't understand how it can push the industry forward other than being an amazing game.. Just like Halo3 was.. it didn't do anything new or innvative but it is a great game.

Now maybe a FPS that masters the Motion Controls(especially online).. now that would push the industry forward..

FantasySports00

FPS this, FPS that.. Give FPS a break.. u know how i know your a lemming ? cause SHOOTER THIS AND SHOOTER THAT !

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Platformer king imo: Mario. He is the man, so I'll agree.

But the industry doesn't need saving or anything. SMG looks awesome and imo is easily the best looking Wii title of the year. Maybe even a possible GOTY contender.

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[QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"][QUOTE="MrEpyx"][QUOTE="Nin360"]

In an industry where 9/10 games are shooters and have "serious" storylines. If it's not sports or driving it's shooters. Every game tries to be "realistic" and people have forgotten fantasy is part of a good story. I could count a very small number of rpgs or platformers this generation. I could count on one hand how many of those are worth the price.

Galaxy is a refreshing twist and looks to have that mario magic that we have not seen in a long time. Fanboys can hate but they know deep down that mario is the man.

Virus214

Refreshing twist? Its another Mario platformer.. Gee how original..

Evil Aliens invade earth (insert home planet) and with a powerful weapon try to destroy all the human race holds dear.

See what I did there? I just introduced everyone to the concept of Gears, Halo, BlackSite, Doom (well technically you go to Mars and its more of hellbeasts than aliens so i guess not so much) Resistance: Fall of Man

how original?

Theres a difference from doing something well but not original, and doing something well than you invented.

Mario invented almost all the good things you like in Gaming and in Game Design and continues to give us quality products.

If you can't see that than gaming really does need this game to be its savior.

Dude.. You just self PWNED yourself.... in Gears.. their not aliens... They lived inside the earth... hence " EMERGENCE DAY " where they emerge from the ground... and sorry for any incorrect spelling...

They're still "aliens." Aliens don't have to come from outer space. They just have to be unfamiliar life forms.