Mario Party 8 vs. Forza Motorsport 2 --- LOL...they are very close in sales

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#1 AvIdGaMeR444
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http://www.vgchartz.com/aweekly.php

It is close.  This was updated June 3rd. 

I'll :lol: if MP8 wins the overall sales battle...a no online game scoring a 6.5 here and a 5.2 on IGN very close in sales to a 9.2 sequel that has online as well as tons of customization. 

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#2 aznfool07
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Sheeps need something to play with.
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#3 alecsuba
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Mario party games have always bene pretty good for what they are. party games.

The reviews dont really come across logical anyways when at the end of them they say aside form the flaws your bound to have a great time with it. How can a game give you a great time and be fun if they say its poor.

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Kiddies are lapping it up like breast milk. 

Forza MS 2 are for hardcore sim racing fans.  

It's obvious.  

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#5 GazzaB
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It has Mario in it. Of course its going to sell:|
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#6 Ganon_919
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Did anyone expect anything different?

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#7 tegovoltio
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Yep, the only difference is that one of the games is way better than the other.
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#8 ssbfalco
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Mario party games have always bene pretty good for what they are. party games.

The reviews dont really come across logical anyways when at the end of them they say aside form the flaws your bound to have a great time with it. How can a game give you a great time and be fun if they say its poor.

alecsuba

I beg to dissagree...  Mario Part 1 and 2 were great games...  Partly because they were fresh and playing with friends was and still is fun.  3 was good too, but it was pushing it a bit...

 

All Mario Partys after that began to go downhill...  4 was the last one I seriously played, then when I tried the others (my youngest brother got 5 and 7) I couldn't take it...

 

Gone were great minigames like Hot Rope Jump, Hexagon Heat, Slot Car derby 1/2/3, Shell

Shocked and many others.  and in were crappy minigames you only want to play once if at all...  Sure they sped up the game, but that didn't help at all...

And the board designs were lame compared to Party 1, 2 and 3's designs... 

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#9 tree-branch
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so?forza 2 is still alot better.

sheep need something to play even though its mediocre.

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#10 musicalmac  Moderator
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I don't understand if this is supposed to be an ownage thread... Or is it just an observation?

I just don't get it :?
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#11 ssbfalco
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so?forza 2 is still alot better.

sheep need something to play even though its mediocre.

tree-branch

 

:|   It's beyond Mediocre... it's CRAPTACULAR!!!

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Mario Party always sells large amounts. Huge fanbase. A sim-racer on the other hand is more of a niche game that only appeals to certain gamers. I myself enjoyed playing both last night.
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#13 MoldOnHold
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How is this surprising? Casuals love Mario Party. Hardcore sim racer fans like Forza. The numbers are about equal. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the casuals outnumber them.
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#14 -Beowulf
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Party games shouldn't really be judged like regular games. There's really no point to them, no reason for online (10000x better with people next to you. Who plays for competition anyway? You play for fun...) and they're just supposed to be a fun thing to do with a few buddies for an hour or so. They're not supposed to be epic graphical masterpieces... just fun. And that they are, no matter what the reviews say.
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#15 diggyzoom
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Looks like the ps3 is down to 15,000 per week. We might be looking at a 50-60,000 month. Ouch. 

 

 

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I think it's just sad that a game with so much attention to graphics and especially physics and AI is selling as well as a game that probably had less than 1/4 of the development time and cost.

Nintendophiles will say that any anticipated game is "fun" no matter how badly it scored. Look at how they defended Red Steel. They will defend this as well. But when Motorstorm flops, to them it's a complete and utter failure, they don't even stop to think that it's actually a fun game, but only for a while (like most Wii games).

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#17 shsonline
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And...?

 

It won't be the first time a critically acclaimed title gets outsold by another game of substantially less acclaim. 

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Kiddies are lapping it up like breast milk. 

Forza MS 2 are for hardcore sim racing fans.  

It's obvious.  

M8ingSeezun
and by kiddies you mean mostly all nintendo fans right?
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I think it's just sad that a game with so much attention to graphics and especially physics and AI is selling as well as a game that probably had less than 1/4 of the development time and cost.

Nintendophiles will say that any anticipated game is "fun" no matter how badly it scored. Look at how they defended Red Steel. They will defend this as well. But when Motorstorm flops, to them it's a complete and utter failure, they don't even stop to think that it's actually a fun game, but only for a while (like most Wii games).

mahjustin

Many of the people who reviewed Red Steel poorly have even said the Game if given more polishing time would have been just fine. Ubisoft had to come out and apologize for rushing red steel among others just recently.

Red Steel was flawed but it was hardly the worst FPS ever made. It had moments where it was super and it had moments the rush job was obvious.

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#20 squirrel337
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[QUOTE="tree-branch"]

so?forza 2 is still alot better.

sheep need something to play even though its mediocre.

ssbfalco

 

:| It's beyond Mediocre... it's CRAPTACULAR!!!

Nice. 

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#21 SmoothMoved
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Lol mp8 > Forza 2 hahahahahaha Vanilla Yummyness . Do an estimate 140k B title 148k AAA title
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#22 Jin_the_samurai
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Mario Party 8 Multiplayer- Awesome. (Its great to buy for ppl who have friends coming over alot) Singleplayer- Boring.
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#23 nyoroism
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I rented Mario Party 8, and my brother rented Forza Motorsport 2 last Friday. Forza's awesome. Mario Party is alright, though I'm getting touchy/unresponsive controls on some minigames.
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[QUOTE="mahjustin"]

I think it's just sad that a game with so much attention to graphics and especially physics and AI is selling as well as a game that probably had less than 1/4 of the development time and cost.

Nintendophiles will say that any anticipated game is "fun" no matter how badly it scored. Look at how they defended Red Steel. They will defend this as well. But when Motorstorm flops, to them it's a complete and utter failure, they don't even stop to think that it's actually a fun game, but only for a while (like most Wii games).

alecsuba

Many of the people who reviewed Red Steel poorly have even said the Game if given more polishing time would have been just fine. Ubisoft had to come out and apologize for rushing red steel among others just recently.

Red Steel was flawed but it was hardly the worst FPS ever made. It had moments where it wa ssupebr and it had moments the rush job was obvious.

Well I guess the same could have been said about Motorstorm... no mulitplayer local, limited game play modes, not enough tracks, etc, made it a flop right? But like the reviewers said, it's a fun game, just not enough content, or not polished enough.

But at least they were able to update the game to give more value to the gamers. In this way I think the PS3 and XBOX360 has a slight advantage... if a game with a lot of potential had to be rushed to be released, at least they could still polish it up a bit and add some more value to the game.

So in that case I wonder what Motorstorm would score now with all it's downloadable content....

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goes to show even when nintendo puts out crap sheep will buy it
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#26 mahjustin
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goes to show even when nintendo puts out crap sheep will buy ittazzydnc

EXACTLY!!

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Did anyone expect anything different?

Ganon_919
Yeah. The human is a complex creature. This whole Wii thing......it blows my mind. I own one too, and have NO IDEA why I even bought one. Haven't touched it in about 6 months, and the only game that I have is Zelda....
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#28 chicken008
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Its a Mario game, it probably will sell more than Forza 2..
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#29 squirrel337
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Lol mp8 > Forza 2 hahahahahaha Vanilla Yummyness . Do an estimate 140k B title 148k AAA titleSmoothMoved

You do know that ">" is greater than. In math the number that is bigger is greater than the smaller one.

Forza > MP8 

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#30 mahjustin
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This is going to only increase the reputation that the Wii is only good for sports and mini games.

Wii-owners, you always retort saying that the Wii not just about the sports/mini-games, THEN WHY THE HECK ARE YOU STILL BUYING THEM?!

Seriously!! I don't understand you sheep at all....

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A wonderful example of how sales =/= quality.
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Blame it on the casuals.
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#33 foxhound_fox
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goes to show even when nintendo puts out crap sheep will buy ittazzydnc


Its not the sheep buying it. It is the casuals and non-gamers.
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#34 SuperVegeta518
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I'll wait for a better source.
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#35 mahjustin
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I'll wait for a better source.SuperVegeta518

Have fun waiting forever.

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[QUOTE="SuperVegeta518"]I'll wait for a better source.mahjustin

Have fun waiting forever.

I'm thinking end of the week.
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#37 Ganon_919
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[QUOTE="Ganon_919"]

Did anyone expect anything different?

lockjaw333

Yeah. The human is a complex creature. This whole Wii thing......it blows my mind. I own one too, and have NO IDEA why I even bought one. Haven't touched it in about 6 months, and the only game that I have is Zelda....

You should sell it then, you don't seem to be enjoying it as much as the rest of us.

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#38 Blackbond
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A wonderful example of how sales =/= quality.Teufelhuhn

50 Cent Bullet Proof, Enter the Matrix ect ect. These things happen all the time. Games like Eternal Darkness and Okami never got their dues. 

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notice the number of nintendo titles in the top 5. xbox360 with a bigger userbase is getting pwned in it's own market :lol:
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#40 Raidea
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http://www.vgchartz.com/aweekly.php

It is close. This was updated June 3rd.

I'll :lol: if MP8 wins the overall sales battle...a no online game scoring a 6.5 here and a 5.2 on IGN very close in sales to a 9.2 sequel that has online as well as tons of customization.

AvIdGaMeR444

I'm not suprised...I mean, what else to Wii owners have to buy? 

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#41 deangallop
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Yeah it is pretty funny.

Sheep buy everything with the word mario in it.

and that sheep LIKE YOU value Sales over quality.

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#42 Ganon_919
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[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]

http://www.vgchartz.com/aweekly.php

It is close. This was updated June 3rd.

I'll :lol: if MP8 wins the overall sales battle...a no online game scoring a 6.5 here and a 5.2 on IGN very close in sales to a 9.2 sequel that has online as well as tons of customization.

Raidea

I'm not suprised...I mean, what else to Wii owners have to buy? 

Well, I still have Super Paper Mario to buy, but that's because I'm so pathetic these days when it comes to my wallet. Blew it all on VC games :P

Nostalgia always gets the better of me :(

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Anything with Mario in the title sells well. It's why Nintendo makes so many Mario games.
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#44 Blackbond
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How many bad games were million sellers on the PS2? Yeah you shouldn't be talking. Games with casual appeal will always sell more. Period.
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#45 Idonomeus
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How many bad games were million sellers on the PS2? Yeah you shouldn't be talking. Games with casual appeal will always sell more. Period.Blackbond

Forza 2 doesn't have casual appeal? GT3 was the best selling game last generation, some 14 million sales. Forza just doesn't have the brand name to go with the quality and MS needs to step up it's marketing campaign to change that.

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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]How many bad games were million sellers on the PS2? Yeah you shouldn't be talking. Games with casual appeal will always sell more. Period.Idonomeus

Forza 2 doesn't have casual appeal? GT3 was the best selling game last generation, some 14 million sales. Forza just doesn't have the brand name to go with the quality and MS needs to step up it's marketing campaign to change that.

As long as it doesnt make Motorflop like sales..i dont care,... 

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The original Forza only sold 1 million, and it didn't stop it from being an amazing game.
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#48 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]How many bad games were million sellers on the PS2? Yeah you shouldn't be talking. Games with casual appeal will always sell more. Period.Idonomeus

Forza 2 doesn't have casual appeal? GT3 was the best selling game last generation, some 14 million sales. Forza just doesn't have the brand name to go with the quality and MS needs to step up it's marketing campaign to change that.

User Base and the fact that GT was pretty much the first great console driving simulator are huge factors. Not to mention the game was bundled for a while too. Never the less racing sims are geared towards people that like to race while Mario Party anybody could jump in and play. Forza is clearly the better game is and clearly the best racing game at the moment. Sometimes good games just don't sell. Look at Sega. 

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Mario Party always sells large amounts. Huge fanbase. A sim-racer on the other hand is more of a niche game that only appeals to certain gamers. I myself enjoyed playing both last night.foxhound_fox

Forza 1 sold over one million.  Gran Turismo 3 sold 14.84 million

Niche markets don't have games that sell this high. 

http://vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php

 

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#50 HarlockJC
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I could care less what the rating is Mario Party is still one of the best....Well party games