Mark Cerny hopes that Sony's legacy would one day match Nintendo's legacy

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[QUOTE="lx_theo"] Can't think fo anyone else who would challenge for second. That's why I think that.princeofshapeir

I don't know... I haven't known Cerny to make any genre defining or defying games... Miyamoto has created several during his career.

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I am surprised by some peoples lack of knowledge of what Nintendo has done for the industry. You can argue opinions of the companies tactics, sales, games and what not. What you can not argue is the fact that they resurrected the market and that has led to what it is today. They are responsible for what the console and handheld markets have become and the competition it has brought. They have brought many new ideas, some good and some bad, to the market which has also inspired innovation and change.

 

You realize that Sony may have never even entered the console market if not for Nintendo.

 

Have you noticed that the first PS controller is basically a SNES controller rip off with added palm grips?

 

The PS brand came out of a failed partnership of Nintendo and Sony to create a disc based system add on for Nintendo.

StrongBlackVine

None of that change the fact that Sony has been better than Nintendo since the first PlayStation.

fact that they resurrected the market and that has led to what it is today. cheesie253

:lol: Maybe if Sony were original, but they just copy everyone. There is no legacyRR360DD

they have done more than any company can do. cheesie253

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]:lol: Maybe if Sony were original, but they just copy everyone. There is no legacyDouevenlift_bro

It won't. Nintendo characters are the faces of gaming and are well known around the world.

[QUOTE="PonchoTaco"]I doubt Sony will surpass Nintendo. no-scope-AK47

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[QUOTE="PonchoTaco"]I doubt Sony will surpass Nintendo. HarlockJC

[QUOTE="cheesie253"] fact that they resurrected the market and that has led to what it is today. TigerSuperman

Er, it already has. Nintendo haven't created a Console that wasn't shit in over a decade.

[QUOTE="cheesie253"]

I am surprised by some peoples lack of knowledge of what Nintendo has done for the industry. You can argue opinions of the companies tactics, sales, games and what not. What you can not argue is the fact that they resurrected the market and that has led to what it is today. They are responsible for what the console and handheld markets have become and the competition it has brought. They have brought many new ideas, some good and some bad, to the market which has also inspired innovation and change.

 

You realize that Sony may have never even entered the console market if not for Nintendo.

 

Have you noticed that the first PS controller is basically a SNES controller rip off with added palm grips?

 

The PS brand came out of a failed partnership of Nintendo and Sony to create a disc based system add on for Nintendo.

StrongBlackVine

None of that change the fact that Sony has been better than Nintendo since the first PlayStation.

[QUOTE="TigerSuperman"][QUOTE="cheesie253"] fact that they resurrected the market and that has led to what it is today. cheesie253

Er, it already has. Nintendo haven't created a Console that wasn't shit in over a decade.

Obviously_Right

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I am surprised by some peoples lack of knowledge of what Nintendo has done for the industry. You can argue opinions of the companies tactics, sales, games and what not. What you can not argue is the fact that they resurrected the market and that has led to what it is today. They are responsible for what the console and handheld markets have become and the competition it has brought. They have brought many new ideas, some good and some bad, to the market which has also inspired innovation and change.

 

You realize that Sony may have never even entered the console market if not for Nintendo.

 

Have you noticed that the first PS controller is basically a SNES controller rip off with added palm grips?

 

The PS brand came out of a failed partnership of Nintendo and Sony to create a disc based system add on for Nintendo.

hiphops_savior

None of that change the fact that Sony has been better than Nintendo since the first PlayStation.

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Er, it already has. Nintendo haven't created a Console that wasn't shit in over a decade.

princeofshapeir

Thing about Sony's legacy compared to Nintendo is that Sony is to quick to abandon their old mascots (or more specifically, never tried to retain the rights).

[QUOTE="cheesie253"][QUOTE="TigerSuperman"] No.TigerSuperman

Modern controllers have a lot of features started by Nintendo. The D-pad, use of analog for control in a 3D world, button placement, ergonomics, shoulder buttons, triggers on the back of the controller and even rumble. Four controller ports without adapters.

Thats just the controllers.

Sony and MS have tried to use motion controls after Nintendo succeeded with their use. Touch screen gaming as well.

The handheld market is full of innovation from Nintendo. Ever heard of the Game & Watch. Portable gaming in your pocket.

Then the Gameboy came along.

Nintendo has innovated over the years and many of the things they brought are used to this day by other companies.

They have brought innovation and some of the worlds best and most known games and characters.

Thing about Sony's legacy compared to Nintendo is that Sony is to quick to abandon their old mascots (or more specifically, never tried to retain the rights).

Lionheart08

Nintendo's legacy has been severly tarnished, Sony has obviously had some hiccups along the way but they've rebounded from them nicely, they are the most important company in gaming right now.

That will never happen.:lol:

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Thing about Sony's legacy compared to Nintendo is that Sony is to quick to abandon their old mascots (or more specifically, never tried to retain the rights).

shadiezz2012

You can try out new ips without abandoning the old. And Sony was very hit or miss with their new IPs this gen. For every Uncharted and LittleBigPlanet we got Heavenly Swords and ModNation Racers.

:lol: Maybe if Sony were original, but they just copy everyone. There is no legacyRR360DD

I don't know if Sony could really do that. No hate or disrespect towards Sony though, its just that Nintendo has one hell of a legacy behind them.

But Sony has been in the gaming industry for a long time as well and have had accomplished alot as well so I wouldn't say it is out of the realm of possibility.

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Thing about Sony's legacy compared to Nintendo is that Sony is to quick to abandon their old mascots (or more specifically, never tried to retain the rights).

Lionheart08

You can try out new ips without abandoning the old. And Sony was very hit or miss with their new IPs this gen. For every Uncharted and LittleBigPlanet we got Heavenly Swords and ModNation Racers.

Nothing about the Nintendo Wii U can change the fact Shigeru Miyamato at Nintendo saved video gaming with Super Mario Bros. Also, Nintendo does things like no one else such as designing the portable video game system, the Virtua Boy technology, and integrating motion controls into a gaming console. Next, Nintendo's first party video game franchises are mostly greatly rated and financially successful. Nintendo does not even compete with other game companies, so it is in a place of its own. 

With respect, I wish Nintendo never becomes like Sega is now because it is an integral part of the video game industry; Nintendo innovates technology and inadvertently aids in the continuation of a competitive industry. Shigeru Miyamato is one of the main reasons for Nintendo's outlook and introspection leading to the kinds of games that company makes and why it is still in business. Everything Nintendo does is not perfect and sometimes bad like the Virtua Boy (I liked the infrared and Tennis game, but it was uncomfortable and detrimental to long-term health), so that company does need to learn from its mistakes and the Wii U should probably get learned from. The Wii and Wii U are respective proof a peripheral consumers like will get bought and if not appealing will get declined when offered. Nintendo is currently in a position where improvements to video game system design could benefit with change and the overall influence of Nintendo is much greater than other video game companies.

Nintendo's legacy is only to admired, the one they're currently creating (errrm "sustaining") needs to be avoided at all costs.  As they are now they're pathetic, and I don't know who I resent more.....the company that rests easy, sitting on its ass doing nothing (way to use that head start since the Wii's cease of support, big N, love all that software), or the dopes that continually support and defend them, essentially enabling them to sit on their ass and move at the speed of a slug.

But man.....transparent pipes in Mario!  The true innovative gameplay evolution for platformers to tide us over until the next: physics for breakable bricks!!  Enabled by 7 year old hardware!  I can't wait to see what's in store seven years from now.  Oh wait, I already know, just not from Nintendo.  KEEP IT ROCKIN' guys!!!

Only if Sony holds enough franchises to last them through 6 generations.

becoming a company that relies on the same 3 franchises for 20+ years is nothing to aspire to 

becoming a company that relies on the same 3 franchises for 20+ years is nothing to aspire to 

Zaibach

Sony has two of the best selling systems ever including the best ever. Legacy is already cemented.

StrongBlackVine

Sooo, Sonys legacy is defined by being in the right place at the right time with DVD?

The PS2 is THE console.  No doubt about that.  But its rise to all out market ownage that pulled in all the great 3rd parties is for the most part owed to a disc format.

Sony has one hell of a legacy in this industry, but they are not on Nintendos level in this regard.

And if you think sales cement a legacy, look no further than Nintendo software.  If you think its scores, look to Nintendo.  If you think its longevity, look to Nintendo.  If you think its mainstream recognition, look to Nintendo.

Or you could just listen to the most seasoned gaming vet at Sony.

Sony fanboys make me sad.charizard1605

Everyone is focusing on mark cerny but sonys legacy is so much deeper than him, he's just the current good guy. Once upon a time gaming was the past time of kids and loners sat in their room infront of their tv but then sony came along and all of a sudden EVERYONE wants to play games and the once childish past time is catapulted into mainstream massively.

Gaming has exploded from there, the 360 may be the current fave for the masses but if it wasnt for sony that wouldnt even exist in the first place so think about that.

I do believe sony will have a legacy but not like nintendo, they will have their own equally as strong.

Only the way brother, it's the Live, Learn and Love, it's just inevitable. Thanks Mark and of course, as always, thank you Sony. Heil68

Sony's legacy is second only to nintendo's but if things keep going how they are now. Sony might surpassed Nintendo after a gen or two