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#1 uninspiredcup
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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-02-01-marvel-vs-capcom-infinite-flops

In a press release reporting the financial results for the nine months ending 31st December 2017, Capcom confirmed Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite had sold one million copies since its September launch. The company had projected sales of two million.

That's quite the shortfall, and what amounts to a significant flop for the latest entry in Capcom's once great fighting game series.

So, what went wrong for Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite? As I mentioned in my review, while the fighting systems were solid, the art style was depressingly bland, with little to catch the eye. The whole game just felt low budget.

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#2 enzyme36
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No Xmen No Buy

Plus it didn't help that every person you ever saw play the game online used the same people... game should be called Dante vs Dante Infinite

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#3 Juub1990
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Very happy about this news.

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#4 Needhealing
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Really happy. Capcom needs to learn.

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#6 DaVillain  Moderator
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Capcom killed Marvel vs Capcom: Infinite by default and I don't blame Capcom for not including X-Men due to Fox ownership rights since Marvel themselves lost the rights a long time ago.

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#7 Archangel3371
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So very unfortunate how Marvel vs Capcom Infinite turned out because the gameplay is great however the presentation of it is indeed very lacklustre. I’m hoping that they can turn this around much like how they did with Street Fighter V.

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#8 BenjaminBanklin
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Disney and Marvel did all that bullshit snubbing the X-Men from the game and talking down at us like we're stupid at why they didn't include them... and then they get the rights back. That pettiness cost them sales.

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#9 Solaryellow
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Maybe now I have a reason to play UMvC 3 that's been sitting on my shelf collecting dust.

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#10 nintendoboy16
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@davillain- said:

Capcom killed Marvel vs Capcom: Infinite by default and I don't blame Capcom for not including X-Men due to Fox ownership rights since Marvel themselves lost the rights a long time ago.

At least the film rights, and even now, it's back under Marvel's hands.

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#11 Alucard_Prime
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Bought it on sale during the holidays but haven't touched it yet. Disappointed to hear about the low budget presentation, because seeing it was X-enhanced pushed me over the edge to buy it......sounds like I made a stupid impulse decision. Let's hope the Street Fighter collection later on does not disappoint as well.

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#13 DocSanchez
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I was a Capcom loyalist who they lost a long time ago. Haven't bought a fighter from them in a generation now, and haven't bought one new even longer. They just get less content every time and more cash grabs. Remember the insane roster from MvC2? How big is the MvC Infinite roster? Exactly. It is roughly half.

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#14 adsparky
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No wolverine no buy, as simple as that.

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#15 Bread_or_Decide
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What was up with those character designs and graphics? I swear this must have started off as a mobile game ported over to consoles.

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I have heard that Capcom didn't handle MvC 3 well. Is it true ?

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@nintendoboy16 said:
@davillain- said:

Capcom killed Marvel vs Capcom: Infinite by default and I don't blame Capcom for not including X-Men due to Fox ownership rights since Marvel themselves lost the rights a long time ago.

At least the film rights, and even now, it's back under Marvel's hands.

I was okay with Fox's X-Men offerings and so far, they were a hit & miss. But at this point, I'm glad it's back to Marvel's and hope to see X-Men in the MCU.

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#18  Edited By LoganX77
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I bought it but I ask myself why? Most people i know wont touch it because it doesnt have Xmen. The Marvel cast is horrible to me and the visual design is inconsistent. Characters like Jetta, Thanos, and Iron Man look great while characters like Chun Li, Dante and Captain America need complete redesigns.

Id patch some character redesigns and do a X-men DLC pack since Marvel has the rights back and it could be saved.

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#19 YammiReckorrdSan
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I got the game a week ago. The battle system is great and so much fun to play. I wish Nilin from "Remember Me" was in the game. She could be such unique character with all the time rewind mechanic. I also wanted Masamune from Sengoku Basara (I could wish forever and it would not help. Sengoku Basara sold terribly). The thing that is cool about Masamune, that his character is inspried by XMan (and little from Dante) and XMan is not evem in the game too... It could be such fun to play Masamune and XMan in the same team...

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Meanwhile Dragon Ball FighterZ is killing it in sales. I'm just looking for all the people that said DBFZ would never stand a chance against MvCi because its anime and the Marvel Cinematic Universe is trending right now. Little did they realize most people that watch the movies are complete casuals that don't play videogames let alone read the comics those movies are based off of. Those movies are just another trendy blockbuster for them.

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#21 uninspiredcup
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@NoodleFighter said:

Meanwhile Dragon Ball FighterZ is killing it in sales. I'm just looking for all the people that said DBFZ would never stand a chance against MvCi because its anime and the Marvel Cinematic Universe is trending right now. Little did they realize most people that watch the movies are complete casuals that don't play videogames let alone read the comics those movies are based off of. Those movies are just another trendy blockbuster for them.

All the salty Capcom boys invaded the Steam forum, it was pathetic.

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#22 NoodleFighter
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@uninspiredcup: I'm reading them now and they really are pathetic, capcucks is the appropriate term for them

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#23 Blazed
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@Juub1990: They didn't have marketing rights to X-Men and we known for a long time now Capcom is struggling. What's the point of attacking situations they can't control?

For people that say they don't care about graphics they sure do care a lot about graphics.

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#24 mazuiface
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What did they expect from a Mahvel game without Xmen?

Magneto Storm Sentinel baby!

In all seriousness, this probably has to do with bullshit licensing issues. The game itself is pretty damn good.

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@Blazed said:

@Juub1990: They didn't have marketing rights to X-Men and we known for a long time now Capcom is struggling. What's the point of attacking situations they can't control?

For people that say they don't care about graphics they sure do care a lot about graphics.

What?

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#26  Edited By R4gn4r0k
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It flopped from the first screenshot I saw of it

@NoodleFighter said:

Meanwhile Dragon Ball FighterZ is killing it in sales.

Hate to be a graphics whore, but MVC:I could've looked way better if it had a 2D-like artstyle that DBFZ has for the fighters.

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#27 LegatoSkyheart
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1 Million is more then what I thought it sold.

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#28 NoodleFighter
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@R4gn4r0k: It's one of the things I love about Guilty Gear Xrd. It's art style is almost ageless so the game can look good even 15 years from now.

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@NoodleFighter said:

@R4gn4r0k: It's one of the things I love about Guilty Gear Xrd. It's art style is almost ageless so the game can look good even 15 years from now.

Exactly, and Capcom has done these types of timeless graphic styles too.

Which makes it even more baffling how much they screwed up infinites graphics.

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#30 KBFloYd
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@LegatoSkyheart said:

1 Million is more then what I thought it sold.

me too.

that is actually not horrible. it means they didn't really lose too much money if any.

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#31  Edited By Jag85
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@NoodleFighter said:

Meanwhile Dragon Ball FighterZ is killing it in sales. I'm just looking for all the people that said DBFZ would never stand a chance against MvCi because its anime and the Marvel Cinematic Universe is trending right now. Little did they realize most people that watch the movies are complete casuals that don't play videogames let alone read the comics those movies are based off of. Those movies are just another trendy blockbuster for them.

It's not like DB is some niche anime though. It's a big multi-billion dollar franchise, widely known to countless millions around the world.

However, you have a point about the casual vs. hardcore thing. MCU is the bigger franchise, but when it comes to dedicated hardcore fans that actually buy the comics and games, that's where DB has the clear advantage over MCU, since most of MCU's casual audiences don't bother with the comics or games. Capcom made a big mistake in thinking the MCU branding would help MVC.

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#32 SoAmazingBaby
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The roster kind of killed my high towards it

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@NoodleFighter said:

Meanwhile Dragon Ball FighterZ is killing it in sales. I'm just looking for all the people that said DBFZ would never stand a chance against MvCi because its anime and the Marvel Cinematic Universe is trending right now. Little did they realize most people that watch the movies are complete casuals that don't play videogames let alone read the comics those movies are based off of. Those movies are just another trendy blockbuster for them.

I'm glad no one reads the current Marvel Comic books, they're complete garbage.

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@Jag85 said:
@NoodleFighter said:

Meanwhile Dragon Ball FighterZ is killing it in sales. I'm just looking for all the people that said DBFZ would never stand a chance against MvCi because its anime and the Marvel Cinematic Universe is trending right now. Little did they realize most people that watch the movies are complete casuals that don't play videogames let alone read the comics those movies are based off of. Those movies are just another trendy blockbuster for them.

It's not like DB is some niche anime though. It's a big multi-billion dollar franchise, widely known to countless millions around the world.

However, you have a point about the casual vs. hardcore thing. MCU is the bigger franchise, but when it comes to dedicated hardcore fans that actually buy the comics and games, that's where DB has the clear advantage over MCU, since most of MCU's casual audiences don't bother with the comics or games. Capcom made a big mistake in thinking the MCU branding would help MVC.

This video at the 8 minute mark is a prime example of what I'm talking about people overestimated the potential success of MvCi just because of the MCU being huge. While MCU is way bigger and trendy it does not have anywhere near the dedicated fanbase Dragon Ball does. Dragon Ball Super is one of the first few animes a lot of people I know are watching in Japanese just because the dub took too long and they don't wanna miss out on all the episodes and risk getting spoiled. I don't like using this word but "normies" is what perfectly describes 95% of the MCU audience. They're all just casual movie goers looking for the next blockbuster hit to watch for the next 2 hours with their kids without getting bored out of their minds and Marvel movies just so happen to fit them. The MCU movies don't even target the fans that read the comics and watch the cartoons because that demographic is incredibly small.

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#35 uninspiredcup
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@Bread_or_Decide said:

What was up with those character designs and graphics? I swear this must have started off as a mobile game ported over to consoles.

It's really weird. The Marvel designs mostly look ok, but the Capcom characters look like bad deviant art drawings come to life.

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Hello everyone how are you today? Can you talk to me a little more about the forum?

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@zozo25 said:

Hello everyone how are you today? Can you talk to me a little more about the forum?

wtf, okay?

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#38 finalfantasy94
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Shows presentation can go a long way. The gameplay is great its just the game looks and feels bland.

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#39  Edited By TheShadowLord07
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@davillain- said:

Capcom killed Marvel vs Capcom: Infinite by default and I don't blame Capcom for not including X-Men due to Fox ownership rights since Marvel themselves lost the rights a long time ago.

but the phoniex, wolverine, deadpool,doctor doom and storm all appeared in mvc3 and that was out not too long ago. If anything it was marvel trying to undermine properties own by fox like xmen

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#40 NoodleFighter
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@TheShadowLord07 said:
@davillain- said:

Capcom killed Marvel vs Capcom: Infinite by default and I don't blame Capcom for not including X-Men due to Fox ownership rights since Marvel themselves lost the rights a long time ago.

but the phoniex, wolverine, deadpool,doctor doom and storm all appeared in mvc3 and that was out not too long ago. If anything it was marvel trying to undermine properties own by fox like xmen

Yup they've even gone as far as sabotaging the comics those characters are based off of so the people that own the film rights to them can't get material for new films from. In fact the plot of Logan with no more new mutants being born originated from the comics because Marvel didn't want them to get the rights to anymore X-Men universe characters so they decided to try and kill off the X-men series. Marvel cancelled a long running Fantastic Four comic and banned trading cards with any Fantastic Four characters ever being made.

It's also why Marvel is trying to push the Inhumans on us as the new X-Men/Fantastic Four replacement even though no one cares for any of the characters except Black Bolt and even then isn't nearly popular enough which is why the movie got cancelled and changed into a TV series.

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@zozo25 said:

Hello everyone how are you today? Can you talk to me a little more about the forum?

oh hai! A/S/L??

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#42 2mrw
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Good looks like shit, roster is fine

Marvel 3 looked and played amazing

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Hello everyone, I hope everything is fine, for what you want to speak I am free

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#44 Mercenary848
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Just so done with crapcom. I cant even get excited for SF5 arcade. About to buy dbz fighters though!

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#45 Zozo25
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Hello everyone I want to ask you if the new games DBZ is already out so if someone can help me I'm free to talk to him

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#46 stuff238
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1. Never knew this game even existed so LOL at Capcom for no advertising.

2. LOL fighting games in general. Can’t believe people would pay $90 for a fighting game in 2018 hahahaha

3. Why has not Marvel and DC buried the hatchet yet and give us a Marvel Vs DC video game? I would probably actually buy that despite my hate for fighters. Just the fact I could beat the ish out of DC losers with captain america would be worth it.

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what do you think of deadpool games?

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#48 Zozo25
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Hello everyone, how was Valentine's Day for you?Marvel is the best

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Hi everyone, how are you? I'm fine anyway. Best marvel DC? Have a good day

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#50 Jag85
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@zozo25 said:

what do you think of deadpool games?

Better than the movie.