Mass Effect 2, 3: 360 Exclusives?

Sorry if this has been posted but I just got the latest issue of EGM and they claim MS will publish ME 2 and 3.

"A source close to the game was more to the point, telling us that Microsoft will publish mass Effect 2 and 3, while BioWare and EA will be listed as the sequals' developers."

I hope this is true.

Sorry if this has been posted but I just got the latest issue of EGM and they claim MS will publish ME 2 and 3.

"A source close to the game was more to the point, telling us that Microsoft will publish mass Effect 2 and 3, while BioWare and EA will be listed as the sequals' developers."

I hope this is true.

TOAO_Cyrus1

Don't believe that for an instant. EA isn't going to allow M$ to make money off their developer. That's EA's money. EA may allow Some things to slide, but they aren't going to allow M$ to publish their games. No way.

[QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"]

Sorry if this has been posted but I just got the latest issue of EGM and they claim MS will publish ME 2 and 3.

"A source close to the game was more to the point, telling us that Microsoft will publish mass Effect 2 and 3, while BioWare and EA will be listed as the sequals' developers."

I hope this is true.

SolidTy

Don't believe that for an instant. EA isn't going to allow M$ to make money off their developer. That's EA's money. EA may allow Some things to slide, but they aren't going to allow M$ to publish their games. No way.

EDIT You don't know what contracts had been signed before the aquistion and they would still be in effect

[QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"]

Sorry if this has been posted but I just got the latest issue of EGM and they claim MS will publish ME 2 and 3.

"A source close to the game was more to the point, telling us that Microsoft will publish mass Effect 2 and 3, while BioWare and EA will be listed as the sequals' developers."

I hope this is true.

blue_hazy_basic

Don't believe that for an instant. EA isn't going to allow M$ to make money off their developer. That's EA's money. EA may allow Some things to slide, but they aren't going to allow M$ to publish their games. No way.

EDIT You don't know what contracts had been signed before the aquistion and they would still be in effect

Um, I'm not talking about Konami or MGS...*rereads my own post*

Yep, I never said that. You want to start a thread about that, I'll talk about MGS there.

ANYWAYS, you can believe what you want, but the world keeps spinning. EA didn't buy Bioware so they could LOSE MONEY.

It doesn't work like that. If new deals and new contracts have to come about, then so be it.

[QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"]

Sorry if this has been posted but I just got the latest issue of EGM and they claim MS will publish ME 2 and 3.

"A source close to the game was more to the point, telling us that Microsoft will publish mass Effect 2 and 3, while BioWare and EA will be listed as the sequals' developers."

I hope this is true.

SolidTy

Don't believe that for an instant. EA isn't going to allow M$ to make money off their developer. That's EA's money. EA may allow Some things to slide, but they aren't going to allow M$ to publish their games. No way.

I'm sure EA will get their cut. But as hazy said, we don't know what the contracts say or what kind of relationship they want to have with MS in the future.

Sorry if this has been posted but I just got the latest issue of EGM and they claim MS will publish ME 2 and 3.

"A source close to the game was more to the point, telling us that Microsoft will publish mass Effect 2 and 3, while BioWare and EA will be listed as the sequals' developers."

I hope this is true.

TOAO_Cyrus1

Like they would release Mass Effect 2-3, without Mass Effect 1, that was the base of the whole story !!!!!

RIGHT !!!

These news do not have to be confirmed really, they are expected 1000%

[QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"]

Sorry if this has been posted but I just got the latest issue of EGM and they claim MS will publish ME 2 and 3.

"A source close to the game was more to the point, telling us that Microsoft will publish mass Effect 2 and 3, while BioWare and EA will be listed as the sequals' developers."

I hope this is true.

Dreams-Visions

Don't believe that for an instant. EA isn't going to allow M$ to make money off their developer. That's EA's money. EA may allow Some things to slide, but they aren't going to allow M$ to publish their games. No way.

I'm sure EA will get their cut. But as hazy said, we don't know what the contracts say or what kind of relationship they want to have with MS in the future.

This is a thread of speculation. I'm speculating. He's speculating. You're speculating about EA's Cut.

NO ONE IS RIGHT.

It's all speculation.

To reiterate, No one here knows or can at least prove they know. I'm speculating EA won't stand for it based on their track record and obvious losses to publishing THEIR own game.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"]

Sorry if this has been posted but I just got the latest issue of EGM and they claim MS will publish ME 2 and 3.

"A source close to the game was more to the point, telling us that Microsoft will publish mass Effect 2 and 3, while BioWare and EA will be listed as the sequals' developers."

I hope this is true.

SolidTy

Don't believe that for an instant. EA isn't going to allow M$ to make money off their developer. That's EA's money. EA may allow Some things to slide, but they aren't going to allow M$ to publish their games. No way.

EDIT You don't know what contracts had been signed before the aquistion and they would still be in effect

Um, I'm not talking about Konami or MGS...*rereads my own post*

Yep, I never said that. You want to start a thread about that, I'll talk about MGS there.

ANYWAYS, you can believe what you want, but the world keeps spinning. EA didn't buy Bioware so they could LOSE MONEY.

It doesn't work like that. If new deals and new contracts have to come about, then so be it.

As for contract law how much do you know? You can't just tear up a contract because you don't like it, thats why we have contracts! How exactly does it not work like that? EA are still bound by any pre-existing contracts. Nor would they lose money (hence why they would be listed as a co-developer), I think you misunderstand how the process works.

[QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"]

Sorry if this has been posted but I just got the latest issue of EGM and they claim MS will publish ME 2 and 3.

"A source close to the game was more to the point, telling us that Microsoft will publish mass Effect 2 and 3, while BioWare and EA will be listed as the sequals' developers."

I hope this is true.

SolidTy

Don't believe that for an instant. EA isn't going to allow M$ to make money off their developer. That's EA's money. EA may allow Some things to slide, but they aren't going to allow M$ to publish their games. No way.

I am sure EA will get their cut, but also "M$" is already getting EA alot of money, IIRC when EA posted the earnings from software games on the 360 make up for just over 50%. Maybe it will be a co-publish thing or something.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"]

Sorry if this has been posted but I just got the latest issue of EGM and they claim MS will publish ME 2 and 3.

"A source close to the game was more to the point, telling us that Microsoft will publish mass Effect 2 and 3, while BioWare and EA will be listed as the sequals' developers."

I hope this is true.

blue_hazy_basic

Don't believe that for an instant. EA isn't going to allow M$ to make money off their developer. That's EA's money. EA may allow Some things to slide, but they aren't going to allow M$ to publish their games. No way.

EDIT You don't know what contracts had been signed before the aquistion and they would still be in effect

Um, I'm not talking about Konami or MGS...*rereads my own post*

Yep, I never said that. You want to start a thread about that, I'll talk about MGS there.

ANYWAYS, you can believe what you want, but the world keeps spinning. EA didn't buy Bioware so they could LOSE MONEY.

It doesn't work like that. If new deals and new contracts have to come about, then so be it.

As for contract law how much do you know? You can't just tear up a contract because you don't like it, thats why we have contracts! How exactly does it not work like that? EA are still bound by any pre-existing contracts. Nor would they lose money (hence why they would be listed as a co-developer), I think you misunderstand how the process works.

Look, it's very possible that this news is true. I just don't think it's going to go down like that. This is EA. If M$ can cut them some major dough, or something, maybe. However, I think EA's name will be on the bottom of the corner of the box when Mass Effect 2 comes out. That's just what I think.

Look, it's very possible that this news is true. I just don't think it's going to go down like that. This is EA. If M$ can cut them some major dough, or something, maybe. However, I think EA's name will be on the bottom of the corner of the box when Mass Effect 2 comes out. That's just what I think.SolidTy

EA are bastards, they seem to soil everything they touch eventually. But unless they are willing to shell out alot of money to MS to buy them out of the contract (and hope to make that back in PS sales) MS will stay as publishers. Anything could happen of course, it is EA & MSafter all.

Nope you didn't talk about MGS or Konami but thats an example of where things are printed and Lems refuse to believe it and cows ridicule them for it. Why should this be different. What inside scoop do you have that the professionals don't?

As for contract law how much do you know? You can't just tear up a contract because you don't like it, thats why we have contracts! How exactly does it not work like that? EA are still bound by any pre-existing contracts. Nor would they lose money (hence why they would be listed as a co-developer), I think you misunderstand how the process works.

blue_hazy_basic

I think the point is that EA are not going to take a developers cut of the money for two games (roughly 4 or 5 years of work) and allow Microsoft to take the majority of the profits. EA just paid $800 million for Pandemic/Bioware, they are going to be taking a significant (publisher) size cut of the profits.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]

Nope you didn't talk about MGS or Konami but thats an example of where things are printed and Lems refuse to believe it and cows ridicule them for it. Why should this be different. What inside scoop do you have that the professionals don't?

As for contract law how much do you know? You can't just tear up a contract because you don't like it, thats why we have contracts! How exactly does it not work like that? EA are still bound by any pre-existing contracts. Nor would they lose money (hence why they would be listed as a co-developer), I think you misunderstand how the process works.

actionquake

I think the point is that EA are not going to take a developers cut of the money for two games (roughly 4 or 5 years of work) and allow Microsoft to take the majority of the profits. EA just paid $800 million for Pandemic/Bioware, they are going to be taking a significant (publisher) size cut of the profits.

True but there are two possibilities here, either there are pre existing contracts which EA will have to honor or MS cut them a sweet deal which gives them a bigger cut in the profits while MS takes the risk as publisher. MS must have made some kind of deal like that to to secure publishing rights of NG2 from Konami. I can see MS doing this they need more exclusive franchises.

PRobably; doesn't MS own the right to ME?Taz-Bone

Just for the first one I believe.

would make snese since the series was originally meant to be exclusives. All that was said was after Biowear was bought out Microsoft said there were no official announcements for the sequels. It would make sense to stay exclusive cus what would the point of putting 2 and 3 on the PS3 when the first isn't?FlawlessSeasons

I know thats like putting the 4th DMC or the 5th Resident Evil on a system that has never had the rest of the installments....

[QUOTE="FlawlessSeasons"]would make snese since the series was originally meant to be exclusives. All that was said was after Biowear was bought out Microsoft said there were no official announcements for the sequels. It would make sense to stay exclusive cus what would the point of putting 2 and 3 on the PS3 when the first isn't?Javy03

I know thats like putting the 4th DMC or the 5th Resident Evil on a system that has never had the rest of the installments....

you dont need to play past RE games to fully understand whats going on in the 5th one. as for DMC4 being on the 360 and pc..capcom said the only reason why they even made nero the main character was to give new comers of the series a fresh start. (and they had some money issues)

i wouldnt be surprised, either way really....

bioware is certainly known for great games... for micrsoft platforms

but EA loves money.....from all platforms

so maybe EA will honor Bioware and let them continue to develop for what ever platform they choose, but if EA is going to publish it (most likely) then theres a very good chance they will have a (badly done) port on the ps3....possibly the wii even :P

[QUOTE="Javy03"]

[QUOTE="FlawlessSeasons"]would make snese since the series was originally meant to be exclusives. All that was said was after Biowear was bought out Microsoft said there were no official announcements for the sequels. It would make sense to stay exclusive cus what would the point of putting 2 and 3 on the PS3 when the first isn't?lawlessx

I know thats like putting the 4th DMC or the 5th Resident Evil on a system that has never had the rest of the installments....

you dont need to play past RE games to fully understand whats going on in the 5th one. as for DMC4 being on the 360 and pc..capcom said the only reason why they even made nero the main character was to give new comers of the series a fresh start. (and they had some money issues)

Do you know the story of ME or RE 5? How can you say that people dont need to play any of the RE installments?

[QUOTE="Javy03"]

[QUOTE="FlawlessSeasons"]would make snese since the series was originally meant to be exclusives. All that was said was after Biowear was bought out Microsoft said there were no official announcements for the sequels. It would make sense to stay exclusive cus what would the point of putting 2 and 3 on the PS3 when the first isn't?lawlessx

I know thats like putting the 4th DMC or the 5th Resident Evil on a system that has never had the rest of the installments....

you dont need to play past RE games to fully understand whats going on in the 5th one. as for DMC4 being on the 360 and pc..capcom said the only reason why they even made nero the main character was to give new comers of the series a fresh start. (and they had some money issues)

Yeah you do...people are just supposed to assume this is the first RE game and that this is the first time Chris is being hunted by zombies? RE1 and 2 and important games to play as well as 4. But part 1 is necessary for background.

[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="Javy03"]

[QUOTE="FlawlessSeasons"]would make snese since the series was originally meant to be exclusives. All that was said was after Biowear was bought out Microsoft said there were no official announcements for the sequels. It would make sense to stay exclusive cus what would the point of putting 2 and 3 on the PS3 when the first isn't?Javy03

I know thats like putting the 4th DMC or the 5th Resident Evil on a system that has never had the rest of the installments....

you dont need to play past RE games to fully understand whats going on in the 5th one. as for DMC4 being on the 360 and pc..capcom said the only reason why they even made nero the main character was to give new comers of the series a fresh start. (and they had some money issues)

Do you know the story of ME or RE 5? How can you say that people dont need to play any of the RE installments?

im basing this on how capcom created RE4..you did not have to play the past RE games in the series to understand what was going on in the 4th one.

[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="Javy03"]

[QUOTE="FlawlessSeasons"]would make snese since the series was originally meant to be exclusives. All that was said was after Biowear was bought out Microsoft said there were no official announcements for the sequels. It would make sense to stay exclusive cus what would the point of putting 2 and 3 on the PS3 when the first isn't?Kahuna_1

I know thats like putting the 4th DMC or the 5th Resident Evil on a system that has never had the rest of the installments....

you dont need to play past RE games to fully understand whats going on in the 5th one. as for DMC4 being on the 360 and pc..capcom said the only reason why they even made nero the main character was to give new comers of the series a fresh start. (and they had some money issues)

Yeah you do...people are just supposed to assume this is the first RE game and that this is the first time Chris is being hunted by zombies? RE1 and 2 and important games to play as well as 4. But part 1 is necessary for background.

oh im mistake then i thought chris was a new character in the series..my apologies

[QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"]

Sorry if this has been posted but I just got the latest issue of EGM and they claim MS will publish ME 2 and 3.

"A source close to the game was more to the point, telling us that Microsoft will publish mass Effect 2 and 3, while BioWare and EA will be listed as the sequals' developers."

I hope this is true.

blue_hazy_basic

Don't believe that for an instant. EA isn't going to allow M$ to make money off their developer. That's EA's money. EA may allow Some things to slide, but they aren't going to allow M$ to publish their games. No way.

EDIT You don't know what contracts had been signed before the aquistion and they would still be in effect

Um, I'm not talking about Konami or MGS...*rereads my own post*

Yep, I never said that. You want to start a thread about that, I'll talk about MGS there.

ANYWAYS, you can believe what you want, but the world keeps spinning. EA didn't buy Bioware so they could LOSE MONEY.

It doesn't work like that. If new deals and new contracts have to come about, then so be it.

As for contract law how much do you know? You can't just tear up a contract because you don't like it, thats why we have contracts! How exactly does it not work like that? EA are still bound by any pre-existing contracts. Nor would they lose money (hence why they would be listed as a co-developer), I think you misunderstand how the process works.

Here is the big difference. Kojima and Konami have all said that MGS4 is exclusive to the PS3. This thread is based off info given by an "insider". In fact the true owners of the franchise of ME, EA, havent said anything about where the next installment will be.

Again you keep talking about contracts and contract laws but the truth is we have no clue if there is a contract, what are the terms of the contracts or if EA decides to just buy their way out of the contract. That is very much a possiblity. I truly dont see EA keeping this game exclusive. Its not their style nor how a large company like EA survives.

[QUOTE="Javy03"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="Javy03"]

[QUOTE="FlawlessSeasons"]would make snese since the series was originally meant to be exclusives. All that was said was after Biowear was bought out Microsoft said there were no official announcements for the sequels. It would make sense to stay exclusive cus what would the point of putting 2 and 3 on the PS3 when the first isn't?lawlessx

I know thats like putting the 4th DMC or the 5th Resident Evil on a system that has never had the rest of the installments....

you dont need to play past RE games to fully understand whats going on in the 5th one. as for DMC4 being on the 360 and pc..capcom said the only reason why they even made nero the main character was to give new comers of the series a fresh start. (and they had some money issues)

Do you know the story of ME or RE 5? How can you say that people dont need to play any of the RE installments?

im basing this on how capcom created RE4..you did not have to play the past RE games in the series to understand what was going on in the 4th one.

Thats because they chose to base it off of Leon, a smaller character from RE 2 and that was the only game he was in. And you still need it for reference on Umbrella and Wesker.

RE5 is much different, Chris was a big player in RE1 as well as RE code veronica.

We've been over this like a 1000 times so I'm just going to give a swift compilation of what I've said on the matter.

Officially, we already know that Microsoft was only set to publish the first Mass Effect and that they planned to talk with EA about how Mass Effect 2 and 3 would work. That said, it's safe to presume that there was no contract in place saying MS would be publishing trilogy, which is logical. What would have happened if Mass Effect came out and bombed hard? MS would be stuck publishing the next 2.

That said, my answer to this rumor is that its probably false. At best, things are still in the negotiation phase. I'm sure EA wouldn't want to have given a definite answer to any proposals no matter what they may be until they saw how Mass Effect wouldperform this holiday.

Personally, I don't think it'll stay exclusive. This is EA we are talking about. Multiplatforming isn't a belief for them. It's a way of life. Couple that with the fact that there's no real good reason not to make it multiplatform and you have a recipe for multiplatform. At the very least, it'll come to PC. Maybe MS will manage to "talk" them into a 6 month exclusive for 360 but again, I don't see why EA would agree to such terms either.

[QUOTE="FlawlessSeasons"]would make snese since the series was originally meant to be exclusives. All that was said was after Biowear was bought out Microsoft said there were no official announcements for the sequels. It would make sense to stay exclusive cus what would the point of putting 2 and 3 on the PS3 when the first isn't?Javy03

I know thats like putting the 4th DMC or the 5th Resident Evil on a system that has never had the rest of the installments....

It's nothing new to switch platforms at the beginning of a new generation of hardware.

Officially, we already know that Microsoft was only set to publish the first Mass Effect and that they planned to talk with EA about how Mass Effect 2 and 3 would work. That said, it's safe to presume that there was no contract in place saying MS would be publishing trilogy, which is logical. What would have happened if Mass Effect came out and bombed hard? MS would be stuck publishing the next 2.RurouniSaiyajin

That's why you only have contracts about first rejection.

if 2 and 3 were to be multiplat they'd need to port the first

I doubt it. Since when has EA ever developed a game and than let another company publish it?

Anyways, what difference does it make? I thought lemmings had already declared that the sequels were going to be crap because EA bought Bioware.

I don't see why people are so hell bent to say "it's EA damn it, there is no way something could/is in works and that the series could be exclusive."

Sure it's EA... but it's MS too. :?

I don't see why people are so hell bent to say "it's EA damn it, there is no way something could/is in works and that the series could be exclusive."

Sure it's EA... but it's MS too. :?

-RPGamer-

[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

I don't see why people are so hell bent to say "it's EA damn it, there is no way something could/is in works and that the series could be exclusive."

Sure it's EA... but it's MS too. :?

espoac

I wouldn't call shoring up your library with exclusive content "dirty", it's smart business to have content exclusive to your machine. Generates a "need" to have appeal.

Sure EA owns the rights, but MS did have vested interest on the first. If it did well which it seems to have done, how can people say they don't have interest in the franchise?

I just don't see how people play off MS as some small player in a deal like this, MS probably being the biggest player out there.