Mass Effect 2 definitely ONE OF THE MOST OVERRATED GAME in gaming history

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#1 ihsanqueen
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Just finished Mass Effect 2 last night, and there's one thing that comes to my mind: How the hell can this game scored 96 on Metacritic? Gameplay? Sure I like choice and interruption, but thats the only good thing about it. Characters? Yeah, all of them are awesome except Jacob. Graphics? Yeah, it's really good although it's not Uncharted 2/Killzone 2/God of War III quality Voice acting? It definetely the game that has BEST VOICE ACTING this gen.... So what went wrong with ME2? The combat I'd say is pretty average. Just another third person shooter, and the skill is pretty terrible. One character only have 4 skill? And other characters also have the same skill with another characters such as Pull, Warp, only the final skill that's different, that's it!! If we see FFX, there are 6 parties and all of them have different skill, even Yuna has awesome summon. Or in Dragon Age Origins there are more than 30 skills every job. Compared it to ME 2 that only has....how many? Only around 20 skills all character? Lame!! The sidequest on ME2 I'd say is GARBAGE!! What? Your chef and doctor wants beer and food, you bring it, and that's it? Finished? Compared it to Fallout 3 for example, you got a sidequest to deliver a letter from a woman to her parents. When you got to her home, you found out that her parents are dead and her brothers are missing. You looking for a clue and you finally know that actually it's her brothers that killed their parents. It looks like her brother is going to be a vampire and you must negotiate with the group that recruit him to let her brother live like a normal human being. That awesome, right? And don't forget another sidequest when you have to search the android that mimicked human form, etc. But in ME2? I can't say a same thing..... And the STORY I'd say is SHORT!! You just gotta recruit all the party, go to Collector ship, getting your crew kidnapped, and the go to FINAL MISSION! That's it? I'd think after we collect all the party we will travel together across the galaxy, but it looks like after you collect all the party only 2 MISSIONS are waiting for you!! What a load of garbage, when you compared it to FF X and FF XII....well.... And as for you to know, I definitely can't say ME 2 has a GOOD STORY!! Why? Because it's SIMILIAR AS MASS EFFECT 1 and DRAGON AGE: ORIGIN dammit!! At first you didn't know who your enemy is, then you know who's the enemy is, and then you collect party, and then go defeat the final boss. That's it!! Mass Effect really should learn to Metal Gear Solid how to make a different stories every series!! Just as for you to know, I'd never say Mass Effect 2 is a bad game, in fact I love it and I think it deserved a AAA score...But GOTY 2010? Scored 96 on MC? This game scored EQUAL WITH Uncharted 2, Bioshock, and The Orange Box? WTF!! Mass Effect 2 is better than MGS 4 and Halo 3!? Even God of War III was better than Mass Effect 2!! And so, I'd say Mass Effect 2 is definitely one of the most overrated game this gen. It's not the best RPG this gen either, I think Demon Souls and Fallout are better than ME2. Do you agree or not? Share me your opinions....
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#2 positivebalance
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well, as far as sequels go, i felt it was vastly superior to ME1, whereas MGS4 was a great game, but nowhere near being on the same pedestal as MGS3. opinions, opinions...

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#3 hockeyruler12
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Somebody got mad at the other thread....

I personally thought the game was great. The only problem I had was the combat got a little bit rinse and repeat towards the end. Otherwise, I enjoyed it a lot. I believe it deserved its score.

Edit: Oh, and "how the hell can this game scored 96 on metacritic?" is not grammatically correct. At all. Grammar police :P

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#4 Modern_Unit
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Aren't you the same guy that gave ME2 a 1/10 and then you removed it?

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#5 bigboss5ak
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I sorta agree that the game might be slightly overrated but still its vastly superior than ME1 in every aspect ill give it that much
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#6 Hahadouken
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I couldn't disagree more! :D

If you're referring to review scores, the fact that MW2 is only a few points behind ME2 on aggregate sites is much more of a travesty than the praise Mass 2 gets.

I don't want to write a counter-argument to all that, so I'll link you to My Review. That's why I think it's a good game.

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And this is why gamers just aren't critics.
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#8 AAllxxjjnn
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Yeh i agree with combat. The gunplay and maneuvering around the field felt super weak. Also the level design was poor. Characters barely interacted with each other as well, they only interacted with Shepard, it felt disjointed, like you weren't really a team.
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#10 ihsanqueen
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Aren't you the same guy that gave ME2 a 1/10 and then you removed it?

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What? How can I gave score to ME2 only 1/10!! I give score to ME 2 9.0, same as GS
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#11 GrannyGoat
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nah ME 2 deserved it's score. now if we are talking MGS4, that puppy is DEFINITELY overrated. the idea of it receiving a 10 is laughable.

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#12 Skittles_McGee
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Seems like that other thread really hit a nerve, no?
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#13 Vaasman  Online
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Just as for you to know, I'd never say Mass Effect 2 is a bad game, in fact I love it and I think it deserved a AAA score..ihsanqueen

Bad grammar aside, how does it make sense that it's the most overrated game in gaming, but you still love it and think it deserves AAA? Conflicting stances much?

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#14 Modern_Unit
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anyone else lost interest when the TC started comparing mass effect 2 with JRPGs?

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I lost intrest when he said it was overrated

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Just as for you to know, I'd never say Mass Effect 2 is a bad game, in fact I love it and I think it deserved a AAA score...QUOTE]Bad grammar aside, how does it make sense that it's the most overrated game in gaming, but you still love it and think it deserves AAA? Conflicting stances much?

Vaasman

It's really not that conflicting...

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#16 positivebalance
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Yeh i agree with combat. The gunplay and maneuvering around the field felt super weak. Also the level design was poor. Characters barely interacted with each other as well, they only interacted with Shepard, it felt disjointed, like you weren't really a team.AAllxxjjnn


The level design was poor? wtf? please justify?

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judging by your avatar and ratings i'd say your just an angry cow, however i will say no such thing i do however, disagree with you at every point you make
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Still a fantastic game regardless.
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#19 Skittles_McGee
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[QUOTE="Modern_Unit"]

Aren't you the same guy that gave ME2 a 1/10 and then you removed it?

ihsanqueen
What? How can I gave score to ME2 only 1/10!! I give score to ME 2 9.0, same as GS

So you scored it a 9. We'll call that "90%" On metacritic it has a 96, we'll call that "96%" So because it has only a 6% difference from what you gave it and what the average reviewer gave it, this is reason enough to call it one of the most overrated games in history (in your opinion). So you mean to tell me that when you consider a game overrated or not (a practice I still never understood) there are precious few games in existence to exceed a 6% difference between your score and the average score? I don't buy a word of that.
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#20 Vaasman  Online
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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

Bad grammar aside, how does it make sense that it's the most overrated game in gaming, but you still love it and think it deserves AAA? Conflicting stances much?

FanaFall

It's really not that conflicting...

lol The game scored AAA and he thinks it deserved AAA, yet it's the most overrated game ever. How is that not conflicting?

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#21 jg4xchamp
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I agree it's not the 2nd coming of crhist like some people feel it is. I don't know if that means the game is overrated. I think it is worthy of the AAA success.
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Yeh i agree with combat. The gunplay and maneuvering around the field felt super weak. Also the level design was poor. Characters barely interacted with each other as well, they only interacted with Shepard, it felt disjointed, like you weren't really a team.positivebalance



The level design was poor? wtf? please justify?

Waist high barriers everywhere killed all immersion.

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[QUOTE="Modern_Unit"]

Aren't you the same guy that gave ME2 a 1/10 and then you removed it?

ihsanqueen
What? How can I gave score to ME2 only 1/10!! I give score to ME 2 9.0, same as GS

Please learn how to use the English language
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[QUOTE="positivebalance"]

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Yeh i agree with combat. The gunplay and maneuvering around the field felt super weak. Also the level design was poor. Characters barely interacted with each other as well, they only interacted with Shepard, it felt disjointed, like you weren't really a team.AAllxxjjnn



The level design was poor? wtf? please justify?

Waist high barriers everywhere killed all immersion.

I'll agree with this. Walking down a corridor, and then "oh look, this room has waist high walls. Here comes a battle!" I did find that a little bit dumb, but I still really enjoyed the game

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#25 positivebalance
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[QUOTE="positivebalance"]

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Yeh i agree with combat. The gunplay and maneuvering around the field felt super weak. Also the level design was poor. Characters barely interacted with each other as well, they only interacted with Shepard, it felt disjointed, like you weren't really a team.AAllxxjjnn



The level design was poor? wtf? please justify?

Waist high barriers everywhere killed all immersion.



because the game is show casing the much improved combat. i thought you meant like the actual destinations though. i thought each world, space station, and alien trance club was brilliant.

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[QUOTE="FanaFall"]

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

Bad grammar aside, how does it make sense that it's the most overrated game in gaming, but you still love it and think it deserves AAA? Conflicting stances much?

Vaasman

It's really not that conflicting...

lol The game scored AAA and he thinks it deserved AAA, yet it's the most overrated game ever. How is that not conflicting?

Well... you can tell this thread is pretty much in response to ME2 being the most compelling game in 2010 or w.e. I assumed he was referring to the peeps rating ME2 as the best game out in 2010 so far.. I thought ME2 was a great game and I think it was scored fairly, but I do believe some people overrate the game...

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#27 FastEddie2121
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I gotta agree with your point about the side-quests. For such a big title, Bioware was pretty cheap for only having two sidequests (get brandy, get ingredients). After that the game is pretty much downhill the rest of the way and the Joker mission was soooo predictable; I saw that one coming a mile away. I don't think I can handle console gaming anymore so it is off to dust off my trusty Commodore 64 and plow through some riveting text based adventures.
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#28 AAllxxjjnn
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]

[QUOTE="positivebalance"]

The level design was poor? wtf? please justify?

positivebalance

Waist high barriers everywhere killed all immersion.



because the game is show casing the much improved combat. i thought you meant like the actual destinations though. i thought each world, space station, and alien trance club was brilliant.

Yeh, the non-combat zones were well done.

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#29 psn8214
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I couldn't disagree more!

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Same here! ... but its late and I don't feel like arguing. So have this emoticon -> :x

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#30 Vaasman  Online
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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="FanaFall"]

It's really not that conflicting...

FanaFall

lol The game scored AAA and he thinks it deserved AAA, yet it's the most overrated game ever. How is that not conflicting?

Well... you can tell this thread is pretty much in response to ME2 being the most compelling game in 2010 or w.e. I assumed he was referring to the peeps rating ME2 as the best game out in 2010 so far.. I thought ME2 was a great game and I think it was scored fairly, but I do believe some people overrate the game...

and so it's the most overrated game of all time? No, the most overrated game of all time is Fable 2, which I don't even think deserves a 6 and got 8's and 9's, or GTA4 which is inferior in many ways to other GTA games but got 10's from almost every website. That's overrated. Calling a game the most overrated, because it scored what you think it should have, is just bogus.

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#31 psn8214
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I agree it's not the 2nd coming of crhist like some people feel it is.jg4xchamp

It sort of felt like that for me... replaying it furthers such impressions. It has its flaws, like Mass Effect, but overall its amazing... although I am admittedly a tad pro-Mass Effect biased.

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#32 Dead-Memories
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he's obviously biased, there really is nothing more to see here.

the only way the game wouldn't have been overated in his eyes is if it were on his system of preference.

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#33 67gt500
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ME2 isn't perfect, but it's arguably better than anything that's released on PS3 this year...
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#34 Cali3350
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Probably my favorite game of the last few years (maybe since GTA4) so....no, id say your vastly underrating it, everyone else is right.

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#35 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]

[QUOTE="positivebalance"]

The level design was poor? wtf? please justify?

positivebalance

Waist high barriers everywhere killed all immersion.



because the game is show casing the much improved combat. i thought you meant like the actual destinations though. i thought each world, space station, and alien trance club was brilliant.

from a gameplay standpoint yes it's functional, and yes it clearly shows the improvement to combat. It just absolutely kills the immersion though, and above all else. It's a DEAD GIVEAWAY of a major shootout happening. The levels might as well have giant neon flash billboards that say "EPIC SHOOTOUT IN 5, 4, 3, 2, 1". It's an overly gamey level design.

Part of that issue though is that most third person cover shooters, really don't have this overly impressive immersive level design. They usually have some immersion killing aspects to them. I don't know, Uncharted 2 probably was the best at it in that regard, but even it had some moments I bet.

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#36 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]I agree it's not the 2nd coming of crhist like some people feel it is.psn8214

It sort of felt like that for me... replaying it furthers such impressions. It has its flaws, like Mass Effect, but overall its amazing... although I am admittedly a tad pro-Mass Effect biased.

which is why i would never call a game overrated. I just don't agree with the 2nd coming of christ. I actually loved Mass Effect 2, it' was an addicting and engrossing experience to be honest. Easily my favorite Bioware game...well maybe I don't know. Haven't played Baldurs Gate 2 in years, but I do know that I like it way more than KOTOR, Dragonage, mass effect, and Jade empire.
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#37 jasonharris48
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Somebody got mad at the other thread....

I personally thought the game was great. The only problem I had was the combat got a little bit rinse and repeat towards the end. Otherwise, I enjoyed it a lot. I believe it deserved its score.

Edit: Oh, and "how the hell can this game scored 96 on metacritic?" is not grammatically correct. At all. Grammar police :P

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Exactly lol

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[QUOTE="FanaFall"]

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]lol The game scored AAA and he thinks it deserved AAA, yet it's the most overrated game ever. How is that not conflicting?

Vaasman

Well... you can tell this thread is pretty much in response to ME2 being the most compelling game in 2010 or w.e. I assumed he was referring to the peeps rating ME2 as the best game out in 2010 so far.. I thought ME2 was a great game and I think it was scored fairly, but I do believe some people overrate the game...

and so it's the most overrated game of all time? No, the most overrated game of all time is Fable 2, which I don't even think deserves a 6 and got 8's and 9's, or GTA4 which is inferior in many ways to other GTA games but got 10's from almost every website. That's overrated. Calling a game the most overrated, because it scored what you think it should have, is just bogus.

What? Inferior as far as the number of extra things to do. I'll agree with that, but that's canceled out by the vastly improved shooting mechanics and the fact that they fixed several awkward amd frustrating design quirks of the earlier titles.

GTAIV is superior in all the ways that truly matter, which is why it got 10s.

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#39 psn8214
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[QUOTE="psn8214"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]I agree it's not the 2nd coming of crhist like some people feel it is.jg4xchamp

It sort of felt like that for me... replaying it furthers such impressions. It has its flaws, like Mass Effect, but overall its amazing... although I am admittedly a tad pro-Mass Effect biased.

which is why i would never call a game overrated. I just don't agree with the 2nd coming of christ. I actually loved Mass Effect 2, it' was an addicting and engrossing experience to be honest. Easily my favorite Bioware game...well maybe I don't know. Haven't played Baldurs Gate 2 in years, but I do know that I like it way more than KOTOR, Dragonage, mass effect, and Jade empire.

Nice to see my point of view is appreciated. There are people who would have torn into that post. :)

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#40 AAllxxjjnn
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[QUOTE="positivebalance"]

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] Waist high barriers everywhere killed all immersion.

jg4xchamp



because the game is show casing the much improved combat. i thought you meant like the actual destinations though. i thought each world, space station, and alien trance club was brilliant.

from a gameplay standpoint yes it's functional, and yes it clearly shows the improvement to combat. It just absolutely kills the immersion though, and above all else. It's a DEAD GIVEAWAY of a major shootout happening. The levels might as well have giant neon flash billboards that say "EPIC SHOOTOUT IN 5, 4, 3, 2, 1". It's an overly gamey level design.

Part of that issue though is that most third person cover shooters, really don't have this overly impressive immersive level design. They usually have some immersion killing aspects to them. I don't know, Uncharted 2 probably was the best at it in that regard, but even it had some moments I bet.

Pretty much, unless of course Bioware has some explanation for why all these areas in the galaxy look like they were built specifically for firefights. It's definitely a problem the "cover-shooter" genre needs to figure out. If they're trying to be immersive, they need to make their levels make sense and look like they serve an actual purpose in the world.

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#41 FastEddie2121
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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="FanaFall"]

Well... you can tell this thread is pretty much in response to ME2 being the most compelling game in 2010 or w.e. I assumed he was referring to the peeps rating ME2 as the best game out in 2010 so far.. I thought ME2 was a great game and I think it was scored fairly, but I do believe some people overrate the game...

GreySeal9

and so it's the most overrated game of all time? No, the most overrated game of all time is Fable 2, which I don't even think deserves a 6 and got 8's and 9's, or GTA4 which is inferior in many ways to other GTA games but got 10's from almost every website. That's overrated. Calling a game the most overrated, because it scored what you think it should have, is just bogus.

What? Inferior as far as the number of extra things to do. I'll agree with that, but that's canceled out by the vastly improved shooting mechanics and the fact that they fixed several awkward amd frustrating design quirks of the earlier titles.

GTAIV is superior in all the ways that truly matter, which is why it got 10s.

So I can assume then that the crappy, clunky cover system from GTAIV doesn't really matter when comparing it to ME2's vastly improved cover and combat system??
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#42 Mr_Cumberdale
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[QUOTE="ihsanqueen"][QUOTE="Modern_Unit"]

Aren't you the same guy that gave ME2 a 1/10 and then you removed it?

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What? How can I gave score to ME2 only 1/10!! I give score to ME 2 9.0, same as GS

So you scored it a 9. We'll call that "90%" On metacritic it has a 96, we'll call that "96%" So because it has only a 6% difference from what you gave it and what the average reviewer gave it, this is reason enough to call it one of the most overrated games in history (in your opinion). So you mean to tell me that when you consider a game overrated or not (a practice I still never understood) there are precious few games in existence to exceed a 6% difference between your score and the average score? I don't buy a word of that.

Maybe the 6% is really worth more in the upper tier. Like a 95-96%+ game would be remembered as one of the gems in this gen, while a 90% game is considered awesome but comes out a few times per year. Very few games can reach an average of 95%+. :)
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#43 FanaFall
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]and so it's the most overrated game of all time? No, the most overrated game of all time is Fable 2, which I don't even think deserves a 6 and got 8's and 9's, or GTA4 which is inferior in many ways to other GTA games but got 10's from almost every website. That's overrated. Calling a game the most overrated, because it scored what you think it should have, is just bogus.

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What? Inferior as far as the number of extra things to do. I'll agree with that, but that's canceled out by the vastly improved shooting mechanics and the fact that they fixed several awkward amd frustrating design quirks of the earlier titles.

GTAIV is superior in all the ways that truly matter, which is why it got 10s.

So I can assume then that the crappy, clunky cover system from GTAIV doesn't really matter when comparing it to ME2's vastly improved cover and combat system??

I like how the originial discussion sprials into something random and wrong comparisons.

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#44 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="psn8214"]

It sort of felt like that for me... replaying it furthers such impressions. It has its flaws, like Mass Effect, but overall its amazing... although I am admittedly a tad pro-Mass Effect biased.

psn8214

which is why i would never call a game overrated. I just don't agree with the 2nd coming of christ. I actually loved Mass Effect 2, it' was an addicting and engrossing experience to be honest. Easily my favorite Bioware game...well maybe I don't know. Haven't played Baldurs Gate 2 in years, but I do know that I like it way more than KOTOR, Dragonage, mass effect, and Jade empire.

Nice to see my point of view is appreciated. There are people who would have torn into that post. :)

What someone gets from a game is what someone gets from a game. I poke jabs at many GUFU posters for stupid crap(mostly jokes) for things like Liking DragonAge(i wanted shoot myself from the boredom), or the fact that some of them liked Too Human(just eww) But it's all good natured fun. Not everyone is going to appreciate Bayonetta for the things I do, and I'm fine with alot of people thinking it's probably overrated(judging by its user score, I assume alot of people didn't think that highly of it as I did). Everyone responds to a game different, you can argue things you didn't like about it. You can argue why you honestly don't think it was a good game because of A, B, and C. That said you're not going to literally change someones feelings towards a game. Hence why I never enjoyed the whole "such and such game is overrated" debate. It' usually comes from the "I didn't like it blah blah blah" or the eventual name dropping, or the part where it's not this game so it isn't as good. It's so, flawed.
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#45 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]and so it's the most overrated game of all time? No, the most overrated game of all time is Fable 2, which I don't even think deserves a 6 and got 8's and 9's, or GTA4 which is inferior in many ways to other GTA games but got 10's from almost every website. That's overrated. Calling a game the most overrated, because it scored what you think it should have, is just bogus.

FastEddie2121

What? Inferior as far as the number of extra things to do. I'll agree with that, but that's canceled out by the vastly improved shooting mechanics and the fact that they fixed several awkward amd frustrating design quirks of the earlier titles.

GTAIV is superior in all the ways that truly matter, which is why it got 10s.

So I can assume then that the crappy, clunky cover system from GTAIV doesn't really matter when comparing it to ME2's vastly improved cover and combat system??

I would hope a game that came out after GTA 4, has a better cover system. Although admitedly GTA 4s cover system had some quirks when it first launched, but it's by no means "bad". ME2s cover system/gunplay certainly isn't perfect either. Gunplay could still use some work, and the maneuvering is still rather clunky. I would argue that Gears of War 2(been forever since i played one) and Uncharted 2 still do cover/gunplay much better.
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#46 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]and so it's the most overrated game of all time? No, the most overrated game of all time is Fable 2, which I don't even think deserves a 6 and got 8's and 9's, or GTA4 which is inferior in many ways to other GTA games but got 10's from almost every website. That's overrated. Calling a game the most overrated, because it scored what you think it should have, is just bogus.

FastEddie2121

What? Inferior as far as the number of extra things to do. I'll agree with that, but that's canceled out by the vastly improved shooting mechanics and the fact that they fixed several awkward amd frustrating design quirks of the earlier titles.

GTAIV is superior in all the ways that truly matter, which is why it got 10s.

So I can assume then that the crappy, clunky cover system from GTAIV doesn't really matter when comparing it to ME2's vastly improved cover and combat system??

When did I compare GTAIV to Mass Effect 2? I'm comparing it to earlier GTA games.

Also, the cover system does need some definite refining for the next title, but it is hardly crap and it really does improve the shooting aspect of the GTA experience.

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#47 psn8214
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[QUOTE="psn8214"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] which is why i would never call a game overrated. I just don't agree with the 2nd coming of christ. I actually loved Mass Effect 2, it' was an addicting and engrossing experience to be honest. Easily my favorite Bioware game...well maybe I don't know. Haven't played Baldurs Gate 2 in years, but I do know that I like it way more than KOTOR, Dragonage, mass effect, and Jade empire. jg4xchamp

Nice to see my point of view is appreciated. There are people who would have torn into that post. :)

What someone gets from a game is what someone gets from a game. I poke jabs at many GUFU posters for stupid crap(mostly jokes) for things like Liking DragonAge(i wanted shoot myself from the boredom), or the fact that some of them liked Too Human(just eww) But it's all good natured fun. Not everyone is going to appreciate Bayonetta for the things I do, and I'm fine with alot of people thinking it's probably overrated(judging by its user score, I assume alot of people didn't think that highly of it as I did). Everyone responds to a game different, you can argue things you didn't like about it. You can argue why you honestly don't think it was a good game because of A, B, and C. That said you're not going to literally change someones feelings towards a game. Hence why I never enjoyed the whole "such and such game is overrated" debate. It' usually comes from the "I didn't like it blah blah blah" or the eventual name dropping, or the part where it's not this game so it isn't as good. It's so, flawed.

Yeah, debates based on opinions and subjectivities never pan out well. You can go read through my Avatar thread again for proof... >_>

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#48 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="psn8214"]

Nice to see my point of view is appreciated. There are people who would have torn into that post. :)

psn8214

What someone gets from a game is what someone gets from a game. I poke jabs at many GUFU posters for stupid crap(mostly jokes) for things like Liking DragonAge(i wanted shoot myself from the boredom), or the fact that some of them liked Too Human(just eww) But it's all good natured fun. Not everyone is going to appreciate Bayonetta for the things I do, and I'm fine with alot of people thinking it's probably overrated(judging by its user score, I assume alot of people didn't think that highly of it as I did). Everyone responds to a game different, you can argue things you didn't like about it. You can argue why you honestly don't think it was a good game because of A, B, and C. That said you're not going to literally change someones feelings towards a game. Hence why I never enjoyed the whole "such and such game is overrated" debate. It' usually comes from the "I didn't like it blah blah blah" or the eventual name dropping, or the part where it's not this game so it isn't as good. It's so, flawed.

Yeah, debates based on opinions and subjectivities never pan out well. You can go read through my Avatar thread again for proof... >_>

Which again, I'm not against someone arguing why they didn't like Avatar. I personally agreed with some of the critiques of the movie. The daily complaining about the love the movie was getting got old. I mean, admit it's probably doing something right and move on. At the same time the "I loved this game SOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH" can also be rather um annoying in a different way :P.
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#49 psn8214
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Which again, I'm not against someone arguing why they didn't like Avatar. I personally agreed with some of the critiques of the movie. The daily complaining about the love the movie was getting got old. I mean, admit it's probably doing something right and move on. At the same time the "I loved this game SOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH" can also be rather um annoying in a different way :P. jg4xchamp

Yeah it can be... *note to self: don't praise ME2 as second coming anymore* ... actually I exxagerated. My love for ME2 is no way near as blatant as Avatar.

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#50 mD-
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TC actually did some reasonable explaining to why he thinks it's over rated unlike 90% of the of the topics made on SW. I'm not agreeing with him though. I still haven't played Mass Effect 2. I'm trying to get my roommates or my friend to buy it, so I can play it, lol. Besides, I also still have Dragon Age (which is great) to beat and FFXIII to buy. Maybe Mass Effect 2 will be best for last?