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well, as far as sequels go, i felt it was vastly superior to ME1, whereas MGS4 was a great game, but nowhere near being on the same pedestal as MGS3. opinions, opinions...
Somebody got mad at the other thread....
I personally thought the game was great. The only problem I had was the combat got a little bit rinse and repeat towards the end. Otherwise, I enjoyed it a lot. I believe it deserved its score.
Edit: Oh, and "how the hell can this game scored 96 on metacritic?" is not grammatically correct. At all. Grammar police :P
I couldn't disagree more! :D
If you're referring to review scores, the fact that MW2 is only a few points behind ME2 on aggregate sites is much more of a travesty than the praise Mass 2 gets.
I don't want to write a counter-argument to all that, so I'll link you to My Review. That's why I think it's a good game.
What? How can I gave score to ME2 only 1/10!! I give score to ME 2 9.0, same as GSAren't you the same guy that gave ME2 a 1/10 and then you removed it?
Modern_Unit
nah ME 2 deserved it's score. now if we are talking MGS4, that puppy is DEFINITELY overrated. the idea of it receiving a 10 is laughable.
Just as for you to know, I'd never say Mass Effect 2 is a bad game, in fact I love it and I think it deserved a AAA score..ihsanqueen
Bad grammar aside, how does it make sense that it's the most overrated game in gaming, but you still love it and think it deserves AAA? Conflicting stances much?
anyone else lost interest when the TC started comparing mass effect 2 with JRPGs?
lawlessx
I lost intrest when he said it was overrated
Just as for you to know, I'd never say Mass Effect 2 is a bad game, in fact I love it and I think it deserved a AAA score...QUOTE]Bad grammar aside, how does it make sense that it's the most overrated game in gaming, but you still love it and think it deserves AAA? Conflicting stances much?
Vaasman
It's really not that conflicting...
Yeh i agree with combat. The gunplay and maneuvering around the field felt super weak. Also the level design was poor. Characters barely interacted with each other as well, they only interacted with Shepard, it felt disjointed, like you weren't really a team.AAllxxjjnn
[QUOTE="Modern_Unit"]What? How can I gave score to ME2 only 1/10!! I give score to ME 2 9.0, same as GS So you scored it a 9. We'll call that "90%" On metacritic it has a 96, we'll call that "96%" So because it has only a 6% difference from what you gave it and what the average reviewer gave it, this is reason enough to call it one of the most overrated games in history (in your opinion). So you mean to tell me that when you consider a game overrated or not (a practice I still never understood) there are precious few games in existence to exceed a 6% difference between your score and the average score? I don't buy a word of that.Aren't you the same guy that gave ME2 a 1/10 and then you removed it?
ihsanqueen
[QUOTE="Vaasman"]
Bad grammar aside, how does it make sense that it's the most overrated game in gaming, but you still love it and think it deserves AAA? Conflicting stances much?
FanaFall
It's really not that conflicting...
lol The game scored AAA and he thinks it deserved AAA, yet it's the most overrated game ever. How is that not conflicting?[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Yeh i agree with combat. The gunplay and maneuvering around the field felt super weak. Also the level design was poor. Characters barely interacted with each other as well, they only interacted with Shepard, it felt disjointed, like you weren't really a team.positivebalance
[QUOTE="Modern_Unit"]What? How can I gave score to ME2 only 1/10!! I give score to ME 2 9.0, same as GS Please learn how to use the English languageAren't you the same guy that gave ME2 a 1/10 and then you removed it?
ihsanqueen
[QUOTE="positivebalance"]
[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Yeh i agree with combat. The gunplay and maneuvering around the field felt super weak. Also the level design was poor. Characters barely interacted with each other as well, they only interacted with Shepard, it felt disjointed, like you weren't really a team.AAllxxjjnn
[QUOTE="positivebalance"]
[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Yeh i agree with combat. The gunplay and maneuvering around the field felt super weak. Also the level design was poor. Characters barely interacted with each other as well, they only interacted with Shepard, it felt disjointed, like you weren't really a team.AAllxxjjnn
[QUOTE="FanaFall"]
[QUOTE="Vaasman"]
Bad grammar aside, how does it make sense that it's the most overrated game in gaming, but you still love it and think it deserves AAA? Conflicting stances much?
Vaasman
It's really not that conflicting...
lol The game scored AAA and he thinks it deserved AAA, yet it's the most overrated game ever. How is that not conflicting?Well... you can tell this thread is pretty much in response to ME2 being the most compelling game in 2010 or w.e. I assumed he was referring to the peeps rating ME2 as the best game out in 2010 so far.. I thought ME2 was a great game and I think it was scored fairly, but I do believe some people overrate the game...
Waist high barriers everywhere killed all immersion.[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]
[QUOTE="positivebalance"]
The level design was poor? wtf? please justify?positivebalance
lol The game scored AAA and he thinks it deserved AAA, yet it's the most overrated game ever. How is that not conflicting?[QUOTE="Vaasman"]
[QUOTE="FanaFall"]
It's really not that conflicting...
FanaFall
Well... you can tell this thread is pretty much in response to ME2 being the most compelling game in 2010 or w.e. I assumed he was referring to the peeps rating ME2 as the best game out in 2010 so far.. I thought ME2 was a great game and I think it was scored fairly, but I do believe some people overrate the game...
and so it's the most overrated game of all time? No, the most overrated game of all time is Fable 2, which I don't even think deserves a 6 and got 8's and 9's, or GTA4 which is inferior in many ways to other GTA games but got 10's from almost every website. That's overrated. Calling a game the most overrated, because it scored what you think it should have, is just bogus.I agree it's not the 2nd coming of crhist like some people feel it is.jg4xchamp
It sort of felt like that for me... replaying it furthers such impressions. It has its flaws, like Mass Effect, but overall its amazing... although I am admittedly a tad pro-Mass Effect biased.
he's obviously biased, there really is nothing more to see here.
the only way the game wouldn't have been overated in his eyes is if it were on his system of preference.
Waist high barriers everywhere killed all immersion.[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]
[QUOTE="positivebalance"]
The level design was poor? wtf? please justify?positivebalance
[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]I agree it's not the 2nd coming of crhist like some people feel it is.psn8214
It sort of felt like that for me... replaying it furthers such impressions. It has its flaws, like Mass Effect, but overall its amazing... although I am admittedly a tad pro-Mass Effect biased.
which is why i would never call a game overrated. I just don't agree with the 2nd coming of christ. I actually loved Mass Effect 2, it' was an addicting and engrossing experience to be honest. Easily my favorite Bioware game...well maybe I don't know. Haven't played Baldurs Gate 2 in years, but I do know that I like it way more than KOTOR, Dragonage, mass effect, and Jade empire.Exactly lolSomebody got mad at the other thread....
I personally thought the game was great. The only problem I had was the combat got a little bit rinse and repeat towards the end. Otherwise, I enjoyed it a lot. I believe it deserved its score.
Edit: Oh, and "how the hell can this game scored 96 on metacritic?" is not grammatically correct. At all. Grammar police :P
hockeyruler12
[QUOTE="FanaFall"]
[QUOTE="Vaasman"]lol The game scored AAA and he thinks it deserved AAA, yet it's the most overrated game ever. How is that not conflicting?
Vaasman
Well... you can tell this thread is pretty much in response to ME2 being the most compelling game in 2010 or w.e. I assumed he was referring to the peeps rating ME2 as the best game out in 2010 so far.. I thought ME2 was a great game and I think it was scored fairly, but I do believe some people overrate the game...
and so it's the most overrated game of all time? No, the most overrated game of all time is Fable 2, which I don't even think deserves a 6 and got 8's and 9's, or GTA4 which is inferior in many ways to other GTA games but got 10's from almost every website. That's overrated. Calling a game the most overrated, because it scored what you think it should have, is just bogus.What? Inferior as far as the number of extra things to do. I'll agree with that, but that's canceled out by the vastly improved shooting mechanics and the fact that they fixed several awkward amd frustrating design quirks of the earlier titles.
GTAIV is superior in all the ways that truly matter, which is why it got 10s.
[QUOTE="psn8214"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]I agree it's not the 2nd coming of crhist like some people feel it is.jg4xchamp
It sort of felt like that for me... replaying it furthers such impressions. It has its flaws, like Mass Effect, but overall its amazing... although I am admittedly a tad pro-Mass Effect biased.
which is why i would never call a game overrated. I just don't agree with the 2nd coming of christ. I actually loved Mass Effect 2, it' was an addicting and engrossing experience to be honest. Easily my favorite Bioware game...well maybe I don't know. Haven't played Baldurs Gate 2 in years, but I do know that I like it way more than KOTOR, Dragonage, mass effect, and Jade empire.Nice to see my point of view is appreciated. There are people who would have torn into that post. :)
[QUOTE="positivebalance"]
[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] Waist high barriers everywhere killed all immersion.
jg4xchamp
and so it's the most overrated game of all time? No, the most overrated game of all time is Fable 2, which I don't even think deserves a 6 and got 8's and 9's, or GTA4 which is inferior in many ways to other GTA games but got 10's from almost every website. That's overrated. Calling a game the most overrated, because it scored what you think it should have, is just bogus.[QUOTE="Vaasman"]
[QUOTE="FanaFall"]
Well... you can tell this thread is pretty much in response to ME2 being the most compelling game in 2010 or w.e. I assumed he was referring to the peeps rating ME2 as the best game out in 2010 so far.. I thought ME2 was a great game and I think it was scored fairly, but I do believe some people overrate the game...
GreySeal9
What? Inferior as far as the number of extra things to do. I'll agree with that, but that's canceled out by the vastly improved shooting mechanics and the fact that they fixed several awkward amd frustrating design quirks of the earlier titles.
GTAIV is superior in all the ways that truly matter, which is why it got 10s.
So I can assume then that the crappy, clunky cover system from GTAIV doesn't really matter when comparing it to ME2's vastly improved cover and combat system??[QUOTE="ihsanqueen"][QUOTE="Modern_Unit"]What? How can I gave score to ME2 only 1/10!! I give score to ME 2 9.0, same as GS So you scored it a 9. We'll call that "90%" On metacritic it has a 96, we'll call that "96%" So because it has only a 6% difference from what you gave it and what the average reviewer gave it, this is reason enough to call it one of the most overrated games in history (in your opinion). So you mean to tell me that when you consider a game overrated or not (a practice I still never understood) there are precious few games in existence to exceed a 6% difference between your score and the average score? I don't buy a word of that. Maybe the 6% is really worth more in the upper tier. Like a 95-96%+ game would be remembered as one of the gems in this gen, while a 90% game is considered awesome but comes out a few times per year. Very few games can reach an average of 95%+. :)Aren't you the same guy that gave ME2 a 1/10 and then you removed it?
Skittles_McGee
[QUOTE="GreySeal9"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]and so it's the most overrated game of all time? No, the most overrated game of all time is Fable 2, which I don't even think deserves a 6 and got 8's and 9's, or GTA4 which is inferior in many ways to other GTA games but got 10's from almost every website. That's overrated. Calling a game the most overrated, because it scored what you think it should have, is just bogus.
FastEddie2121
What? Inferior as far as the number of extra things to do. I'll agree with that, but that's canceled out by the vastly improved shooting mechanics and the fact that they fixed several awkward amd frustrating design quirks of the earlier titles.
GTAIV is superior in all the ways that truly matter, which is why it got 10s.
So I can assume then that the crappy, clunky cover system from GTAIV doesn't really matter when comparing it to ME2's vastly improved cover and combat system??I like how the originial discussion sprials into something random and wrong comparisons.
which is why i would never call a game overrated. I just don't agree with the 2nd coming of christ. I actually loved Mass Effect 2, it' was an addicting and engrossing experience to be honest. Easily my favorite Bioware game...well maybe I don't know. Haven't played Baldurs Gate 2 in years, but I do know that I like it way more than KOTOR, Dragonage, mass effect, and Jade empire.[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="psn8214"]
It sort of felt like that for me... replaying it furthers such impressions. It has its flaws, like Mass Effect, but overall its amazing... although I am admittedly a tad pro-Mass Effect biased.
psn8214
Nice to see my point of view is appreciated. There are people who would have torn into that post. :)
What someone gets from a game is what someone gets from a game. I poke jabs at many GUFU posters for stupid crap(mostly jokes) for things like Liking DragonAge(i wanted shoot myself from the boredom), or the fact that some of them liked Too Human(just eww) But it's all good natured fun. Not everyone is going to appreciate Bayonetta for the things I do, and I'm fine with alot of people thinking it's probably overrated(judging by its user score, I assume alot of people didn't think that highly of it as I did). Everyone responds to a game different, you can argue things you didn't like about it. You can argue why you honestly don't think it was a good game because of A, B, and C. That said you're not going to literally change someones feelings towards a game. Hence why I never enjoyed the whole "such and such game is overrated" debate. It' usually comes from the "I didn't like it blah blah blah" or the eventual name dropping, or the part where it's not this game so it isn't as good. It's so, flawed.[QUOTE="GreySeal9"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]and so it's the most overrated game of all time? No, the most overrated game of all time is Fable 2, which I don't even think deserves a 6 and got 8's and 9's, or GTA4 which is inferior in many ways to other GTA games but got 10's from almost every website. That's overrated. Calling a game the most overrated, because it scored what you think it should have, is just bogus.
FastEddie2121
What? Inferior as far as the number of extra things to do. I'll agree with that, but that's canceled out by the vastly improved shooting mechanics and the fact that they fixed several awkward amd frustrating design quirks of the earlier titles.
GTAIV is superior in all the ways that truly matter, which is why it got 10s.
So I can assume then that the crappy, clunky cover system from GTAIV doesn't really matter when comparing it to ME2's vastly improved cover and combat system?? I would hope a game that came out after GTA 4, has a better cover system. Although admitedly GTA 4s cover system had some quirks when it first launched, but it's by no means "bad". ME2s cover system/gunplay certainly isn't perfect either. Gunplay could still use some work, and the maneuvering is still rather clunky. I would argue that Gears of War 2(been forever since i played one) and Uncharted 2 still do cover/gunplay much better.[QUOTE="GreySeal9"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]and so it's the most overrated game of all time? No, the most overrated game of all time is Fable 2, which I don't even think deserves a 6 and got 8's and 9's, or GTA4 which is inferior in many ways to other GTA games but got 10's from almost every website. That's overrated. Calling a game the most overrated, because it scored what you think it should have, is just bogus.
FastEddie2121
What? Inferior as far as the number of extra things to do. I'll agree with that, but that's canceled out by the vastly improved shooting mechanics and the fact that they fixed several awkward amd frustrating design quirks of the earlier titles.
GTAIV is superior in all the ways that truly matter, which is why it got 10s.
So I can assume then that the crappy, clunky cover system from GTAIV doesn't really matter when comparing it to ME2's vastly improved cover and combat system??When did I compare GTAIV to Mass Effect 2? I'm comparing it to earlier GTA games.
Also, the cover system does need some definite refining for the next title, but it is hardly crap and it really does improve the shooting aspect of the GTA experience.
[QUOTE="psn8214"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] which is why i would never call a game overrated. I just don't agree with the 2nd coming of christ. I actually loved Mass Effect 2, it' was an addicting and engrossing experience to be honest. Easily my favorite Bioware game...well maybe I don't know. Haven't played Baldurs Gate 2 in years, but I do know that I like it way more than KOTOR, Dragonage, mass effect, and Jade empire. jg4xchamp
Nice to see my point of view is appreciated. There are people who would have torn into that post. :)
What someone gets from a game is what someone gets from a game. I poke jabs at many GUFU posters for stupid crap(mostly jokes) for things like Liking DragonAge(i wanted shoot myself from the boredom), or the fact that some of them liked Too Human(just eww) But it's all good natured fun. Not everyone is going to appreciate Bayonetta for the things I do, and I'm fine with alot of people thinking it's probably overrated(judging by its user score, I assume alot of people didn't think that highly of it as I did). Everyone responds to a game different, you can argue things you didn't like about it. You can argue why you honestly don't think it was a good game because of A, B, and C. That said you're not going to literally change someones feelings towards a game. Hence why I never enjoyed the whole "such and such game is overrated" debate. It' usually comes from the "I didn't like it blah blah blah" or the eventual name dropping, or the part where it's not this game so it isn't as good. It's so, flawed.Yeah, debates based on opinions and subjectivities never pan out well. You can go read through my Avatar thread again for proof... >_>
What someone gets from a game is what someone gets from a game. I poke jabs at many GUFU posters for stupid crap(mostly jokes) for things like Liking DragonAge(i wanted shoot myself from the boredom), or the fact that some of them liked Too Human(just eww) But it's all good natured fun. Not everyone is going to appreciate Bayonetta for the things I do, and I'm fine with alot of people thinking it's probably overrated(judging by its user score, I assume alot of people didn't think that highly of it as I did). Everyone responds to a game different, you can argue things you didn't like about it. You can argue why you honestly don't think it was a good game because of A, B, and C. That said you're not going to literally change someones feelings towards a game. Hence why I never enjoyed the whole "such and such game is overrated" debate. It' usually comes from the "I didn't like it blah blah blah" or the eventual name dropping, or the part where it's not this game so it isn't as good. It's so, flawed.[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="psn8214"]
Nice to see my point of view is appreciated. There are people who would have torn into that post. :)
psn8214
Yeah, debates based on opinions and subjectivities never pan out well. You can go read through my Avatar thread again for proof... >_>
Which again, I'm not against someone arguing why they didn't like Avatar. I personally agreed with some of the critiques of the movie. The daily complaining about the love the movie was getting got old. I mean, admit it's probably doing something right and move on. At the same time the "I loved this game SOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH" can also be rather um annoying in a different way :P.Which again, I'm not against someone arguing why they didn't like Avatar. I personally agreed with some of the critiques of the movie. The daily complaining about the love the movie was getting got old. I mean, admit it's probably doing something right and move on. At the same time the "I loved this game SOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH" can also be rather um annoying in a different way :P. jg4xchamp
Yeah it can be... *note to self: don't praise ME2 as second coming anymore* ... actually I exxagerated. My love for ME2 is no way near as blatant as Avatar.
TC actually did some reasonable explaining to why he thinks it's over rated unlike 90% of the of the topics made on SW. I'm not agreeing with him though. I still haven't played Mass Effect 2. I'm trying to get my roommates or my friend to buy it, so I can play it, lol. Besides, I also still have Dragon Age (which is great) to beat and FFXIII to buy. Maybe Mass Effect 2 will be best for last?
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