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#51 aero250
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[QUOTE="RedruM_I"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]

That just shows how crap the 360 is.

EazyD91
Fixed.

And failed

Yep.
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#52 Rockman999
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[QUOTE="EazyD91"]This means Mass Effect 2 will be even better, YES! I guess you thought I was going to look at this as a bad thing right?Sands-0f-Time

lol...i dont know about you but i wouldnt my xbox to get rrod over a game

You don't have to worry about that, just get the PS3 version ;).

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#53 RoOodriGowW
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And that's why I don't buy an xbox 360 , I have more than 60 ps3 games , could easily buy it but I refuse to go through the customer support and the 3rd 4th and God knows how much boxes.It's simple want my money?Make it as realiable as the ps3.

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#54 stereointegrity
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link doesnt work.....and i doubt its the game doing it...
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#55 clone01
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[QUOTE="AdoringFan_"]

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="AdoringFan_"]

Really? 4 years old and still having hardware failures like crazy? Actually its the complete opposite, until Microsoft fixes the damn problem :?

so i'm sure you have up to date stats on the actual failure rate of the box?

Nope but thats why there are sites that do this sort of crap other than polls ;)

so post some that aren't an informal poll.
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#56 awssk8er716
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]

That just shows how crap the 360 is.

RedruM_I

Fixed.

Fixed correctly. :)

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#57 tester962
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It's going to be an amazing game. This is why I have both a gaming pc and a 360. The ultimate gaming combination!

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In all honesty the ultimate gaming combination would be a PC/PS3/and your choice of PSP or DS. Alot of games that come out for the 360 also go to the PC. Most exclusive PS3 games dont go to the PC. Thus you get the most games out of a PC/PS3 combo. You choose which handheld suits your needs. Thats the way to have the ultimate gaming combination as you so called.
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#58 AdoringFan_
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[QUOTE="AdoringFan_"]

[QUOTE="clone01"] so i'm sure you have up to date stats on the actual failure rate of the box?clone01

Nope but thats why there are sites that do this sort of crap other than polls ;)

so post some that aren't an informal poll.

This is not rocket science buddy ;)

Go to google and search sites, go to ign, go to gamespot, etc. Besides E74 is still happening. Don't believe me, look it up. ;)

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#59 mgkennedy5
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Meh, I'm getting the PC version anyway

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#60 Toriko42
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That just shows how kick ass Mass Effect 2 is going to be.

AAllxxjjnn
Exactly and if they acknowledge it well then they will fix it.
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#61 clone01
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[QUOTE="AdoringFan_"]

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="AdoringFan_"]

Nope but thats why there are sites that do this sort of crap other than polls ;)

so post some that aren't an informal poll.

This is not rocket science buddy ;)

Go to google and search sites, go to ign, go to gamespot, etc. Besides E74 is still happening. Don't believe me, look it up. ;)

i'm not your buddy, so please don't refer to me as such. why should i look it up? burden of proof is on you. give me some up to date data that's not from someone's blog or informal poll.
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#62 JediRiff
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http://www.vgarabia.com/2009/08/19/mass-effect-2-demo-is-overheating-xboxes/

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Psssst.... save it to your hard drive. I know I will. :D
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#63 Warriorboy1990
Member since 2008 • 3813 Posts

Not really Bioware's fault.

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#64 imprezawrx500
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[QUOTE="lhughey"]Questions i wanna know: was it in an enclosure? If so, how as the enclosure ventilated? is the code optimized, or does it have the processor running at 100% the majority of the time?

what good is it if you can't max out your console without it burning up? a cpu should be able to run at 100% without a problem.
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#65 imprezawrx500
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Just more proof that this game needs to come to the PS3 so that it can actually be played on a good console.Fatmanoncouch
will run fine on pc.
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#66 PS3_3DO
Member since 2006 • 10976 Posts

BS bioware never said this.

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#67 moose_knuckler
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Woot this makes me more excited for ME:2 :D.
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#68 AdoringFan_
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[QUOTE="AdoringFan_"]

[QUOTE="clone01"] so post some that aren't an informal poll.clone01

This is not rocket science buddy ;)

Go to google and search sites, go to ign, go to gamespot, etc. Besides E74 is still happening. Don't believe me, look it up. ;)

i'm not your buddy, so please don't refer to me as such. why should i look it up? burden of proof is on you. give me some up to date data that's not from someone's blog or informal poll.

http://www.neoseeker.com/news/9673-xbox-360s-new-ish-problem-error-74/

http://www.smh.com.au/news/technology/more-hardware-problems-plague-xbox-360/2009/04/15/1239474924715.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360_technical_problems

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6214434.html

How many sites do you want me to give you? :|:|:|

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#69 SparkyProtocol
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[QUOTE="lhughey"]Questions i wanna know: was it in an enclosure? If so, how as the enclosure ventilated? is the code optimized, or does it have the processor running at 100% the majority of the time?imprezawrx500
what good is it if you can't max out your console without it burning up? a cpu should be able to run at 100% without a problem.

If the console was enclosed then it is obvious that it would overheat. :|
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#70 clone01
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[QUOTE="AdoringFan_"]

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="AdoringFan_"]

This is not rocket science buddy ;)

Go to google and search sites, go to ign, go to gamespot, etc. Besides E74 is still happening. Don't believe me, look it up. ;)

i'm not your buddy, so please don't refer to me as such. why should i look it up? burden of proof is on you. give me some up to date data that's not from someone's blog or informal poll.

http://www.neoseeker.com/news/9673-xbox-360s-new-ish-problem-error-74/

http://www.smh.com.au/news/technology/more-hardware-problems-plague-xbox-360/2009/04/15/1239474924715.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360_technical_problems

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6214434.html

How many sites do you want me to give you? :|:|:|

all these sites do is acknowledge E74 and RROD. not one of them gives any solid data or numbers, except Wikipedia (quoted below)... In February 2008, during the Game Developers Conference 2008, Microsoft announced that the "Failure rate has officially dropped", but without mentioning any specifics[18]. The same month, electronics warranty provider SquareTrade published an examination of 1040 Xbox 360s and said that they suffered from a failure rate of 16.4% (one in six). Of the 171 failures, 60% were due to a general hardware failure (and thus fell under the 3 year extended warranty). And of the remaining 40% which were not covered by the extended warranty, 18% were disc read errors, 13% were video card failures, 13% were hard drive freezes, 10% were power issues and 7% were disc tray malfunctions.[19][20] SquareTrade also stated that its estimates are likely much lower than reality due to the time span of the sample (six to ten months), the eventual failure of many consoles that did not fail within this time span and the fact that many owners did not deal with SquareTrade and had their consoles repaired directly through Microsoft via the much publicized extended RROD warranty. ...in other words, RROD exists. got it. i think we were all aware. and 16.4% is certainly less than %54.2.
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#71 L33tbanneador
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Its funny to see the people complaining here are mostly fanboys that don't even own a 360 or have no intentions to own one,overheating is cause by many factors specially if the console doesn't have enough space to flow the air like in those horrible xbox 360 kiosk's.
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#72 MaltaDrummer
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I am Lmao at the xbox fanboys. tryin to hide the truth: " I think of it as a good way". where the **** is the goodness? you are happy cause your crappy system overheated over a demo? wtf!

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#73 clone01
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I am Lmao at the xbox fanboys. tryin to hide the truth: " I think of it as a good way". where the **** is the goodness? you are happy cause your crappy system overheated over a demo? wtf!

MaltaDrummer
no, but i enjoy the games on it. you do realize that the overall higher rated games library is on the 360, right? http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pc5oLqpenpT78W87pMfgvBA&gid=3
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#74 imprezawrx500
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[QUOTE="imprezawrx500"][QUOTE="lhughey"]Questions i wanna know: was it in an enclosure? If so, how as the enclosure ventilated? is the code optimized, or does it have the processor running at 100% the majority of the time?SparkyProtocol
what good is it if you can't max out your console without it burning up? a cpu should be able to run at 100% without a problem.

If the console was enclosed then it is obvious that it would overheat. :|

anything with half decent cooling can run with limited space without frying itself. the 360 has a terrible heatsink/fan design.
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#75 HotRevolver
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Oh, oh well. The PC version is the way to go...

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#76 tester962
Member since 2004 • 2881 Posts

Oh, oh well. The PC version is the way to go...

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thats the version im getting =)
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#77 bubbleboyii
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That just shows how kick ass Mass Effect 2 is going to be.

AAllxxjjnn

It's so good, YOU CAN'T PLAY IT. :? All the more reason to get the PC version, I guess.

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#78 Rza_rectah
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PC version to the rescue! :P

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This, im not buyin a game that could potentially brake my xbox. My warranty runs out this year too.
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#79 MortalDecay
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[QUOTE="xbox360isgr8t"]fanboys will spin this any way they want. why bother posting this as if it would be a bad thing. seriously. its time to move on.AdoringFan_

Really? 4 years old and still having hardware failures like crazy? Actually its the complete opposite, until Microsoft fixes the damn problem :?

Please...Show us how the 360's hardware is failing like crazy...Give us some solid proof.
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#80 MortalDecay
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[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="imprezawrx500"] what good is it if you can't max out your console without it burning up? a cpu should be able to run at 100% without a problem. imprezawrx500
If the console was enclosed then it is obvious that it would overheat. :|

anything with half decent cooling can run with limited space without frying itself. the 360 has a terrible heatsink/fan design.

Jasper units have smaller CPUs, and GPUs in them...It's not like we're talking about launch units. People need to get with the times.
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#81 sethman410
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This is good news.
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#82 Gamerz1569
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with that Bioware might dumb it down a bit.

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#83 karsa-orlong
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PC version to the rescue! :P

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plus it'll look a lot better

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#84 slvrraven9
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i dotn care, my 360 is kept in my basement entertainment center. its ALWAYS cool down there so i have no probs. even if by chance i do though....meh, ill just get it repaired. im not worrued about mine overheating. not an issue for me
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#85 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Well, at least we now know that the final product will make 360 explode due to sheer awesomeness.

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lol. Exactly, ME2 is full of so much win that the Xbox 360 just can't handle it. :P
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#86 sethman410
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Mass Effect fails, soooo overrated.
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#87 ultraking
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no... mass effect 2doesnt fail..its the 360 that fails..... all the time

Mass Effect fails, soooo overrated.sethman410

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#88 tester962
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Mass Effect fails, soooo overrated.sethman410
Mass Effect was an awesome game. Sethman I really doubt you ever played it. You said in a previous thread that all you did was play the 360 at your friends house. Was this the game you played over there? I doubt it. I have no problem with Sony or the Playstation but you just spew Cow nonsense any chance you see fit, its pathetic.

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#89 CaptainHarley
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not one of them gives any solid data or numbers, except Wikipedia (quoted below)... clone01

wikipedia is a garbage website and should never be used as a reference. maybe the links provided to the 'research' there can be. wikipedia's 'facts' are often pretty much about on par with the garbage in this forum, but niced up in terms of grammar.

anyway this thread has done a great job of reinforcing my theory that any post with the straight-faced smiley is never worth reading.

also me2 is going to be awesome

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#90 mgs_freak91
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[QUOTE="RedruM_I"][QUOTE="thelastguy"]

So overheating issues are a good thing?

Come on :lol:

xbox360isgr8t

That's how braniwashed many lemmings are...

no. but people on system wars act like its news every day by creating new threads. or posting a failure rate that is based on a vary minuscule poll. this is nothing new everyone knows it. its not thread worthy anymore. We should just have a rrod, overheating, or e74 related 360 sticky at the top. Cause we dont need more threads daily on something that is old.

No but the fact that it's still happening to this date is what makes it thread worthy, especially when its happening when playing a DEMO of one of the 360's major games. When the day comes that a sticky is made then everything will be moved there, until then think of these threads as that sticky getting filled up with heaps of stories and such. No one told you to come and comment in here, if this is how you felt then you should have just left everything alone.

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#91 mgs_freak91
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[QUOTE="clone01"]not one of them gives any solid data or numbers, except Wikipedia (quoted below)... CaptainHarley

wikipedia is a garbage website and should never be used as a reference. maybe the links provided to the 'research' there can be. wikipedia's 'facts' are often pretty much about on par with the garbage in this forum, but niced up in terms of grammar.

anyway this thread has done a great job of reinforcing my theory that any post with the straight-faced smiley is never worth reading.

also me2 is going to be awesome

This! = TRUE! Hey 'CaptainHarley' want me to go change something you don't like on wikipedia? :P I think my point has been made clear.
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#92 mgs_freak91
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no... mass effect 2doesnt fail..its the 360 that fails..... all the time[QUOTE="sethman410"]Mass Effect fails, soooo overrated.ultraking

LOL. Mass Effect was an awesome game! 360 hardware is just...no one word can describe it. Hopefully Microsoft doesn't make this mistake again.
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#93 dethroned3
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fanboys will spin this any way they want. why bother posting this as if it would be a bad thing. seriously. its time to move on.xbox360isgr8t

that's because IT IS a bad thing, and if it turns out to be pandemic, there will be a lot of angry xbox gamers.

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#94 user_nat
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When Forza 2 first came out people seemed to think that was red ringing xboxs. So it obviously isn't good graphics that causes the problem.
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#95 NielsNL
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fanboys will spin this any way they want. why bother posting this as if it would be a bad thing. seriously. its time to move on.xbox360isgr8t

:lol::lol:

Oh, the irony...

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#96 double_heist
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So the full game will make the X360 explode? :P
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#97 RedruM_I
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[QUOTE="clone01"]not one of them gives any solid data or numbers, except Wikipedia (quoted below)... CaptainHarley

wikipedia is a garbage website and should never be used as a reference. maybe the links provided to the 'research' there can be. wikipedia's 'facts' are often pretty much about on par with the garbage in this forum, but niced up in terms of grammar.

anyway this thread has done a great job of reinforcing my theory that any post with the straight-faced smiley is never worth reading.

also me2 is going to be awesome

That's why wikipedia gives away the sources for the information mostly. No reference is garbage just because. With wikipedia you have to be careful but you can still confirm or not pretty much everything you read there. You just don't have to be lazy.
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#98 slvrraven9
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Mass Effect fails, soooo overrated.sethman410
how is it overrated? what?
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#99 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="xbox360isgr8t"][QUOTE="AdoringFan_"]

Really? 4 years old and still having hardware failures like crazy? Actually its the complete opposite, until Microsoft fixes the damn problem :?

AdoringFan_

again i want to see some real figures on failure rate. we all know consoles made in 05 and 06 will be real high. Show me some figures on consoles that were made in 08 or this year. I bet the rate is not that bad. And come on we all know other consoles had problems. Ms dropped the ball but that is the price you pay for trying to get your console out first and it doesnt seem to be effecting there sales that badly. Hate them or love them it doesnt matter. Microsoft is milking people any harder than sony or nintendo or EA or activison.

http://www.gamingbits.com/content/view/6337

360 still has problems ahem E74, overheating, etc. Theres always news like these too you know

Still not seeing a failure rate, just a failure on that site...wheres the failure rate?
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#100 WilliamRLBaker
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And that's why I don't buy an xbox 360 , I have more than 60 ps3 games , could easily buy it but I refuse to go through the customer support and the 3rd 4th and God knows how much boxes.It's simple want my money?Make it as realiable as the ps3.

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On my first pro launch system and 2nd elite, I own 40 360 games, and no ps3 games *sold the ones i did have*