So, Mass Effect barely fits in one disc, which in one hand is kinda worrying if you don't like multiple discs, but on the other hand it's also not a big deal because of this:
"Does “Mass Effect” fit on one disc? Yep, but just barely. This is a monstrous game. In fact, there was a time – not too long ago – when we pretty much scoffed at the idea of fitting onto one disc. But, there’s an art to optimizing the data that goes on a disc – plus we have a few programmers that seem to pull off magic tricks right when we need them. "
Multiple discs
I never had any problem with the Playstation 1. Not many games were in multiple discs, in the worst scenario the 360 will be just like it.
1080p
Yohsuke Hayashi, the director of Ninja Sigma had this to say this about 1080p:
"Well, this game is going to support 720p, and that is because we have determined that this is optimal resolution to get the best quality images out of the PS3. There are companies out there that are developing games at 1080p, and the problem is that they’re really pushing the limits of the hardware at that resolution, and I think that if you examine it objectively you will see that in order to get the best balance of performance and image quality then 720p is your only choice. I think that the companies that are making a big deal out of making games at 1080p are either underestimating their ability to get their games to run well at that resolution, or they’re basically just using that as an advertising gimmick. I’m confident that if you want to make the best-looking game you can on PS3, then 720p is your only choice."
not to bring this up, but uh... lair is supposed to run in 1080p and i think its sony pushing factor5 to do so... i just cant help but think about how much better it could look if they would optimize it for 720p =\
if anyone actually installs games onto their HDD they are wasting their timeR-Dot-Yung
"The three-minute installation process, which begs the question of how much space is Genji using of the 4GB Blu-Ray disc, will reduces load times from 15 seconds to 4." I would install.
[QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]I bet they wish they had blue-ray. Spartan070
Hmmmm......no. Swapping discs is a good alternative to spending unneeded cash. Quote for truth, I seem to do that to a lot of your posts Spartan. I feel creepy. :| My favourite game of all time comes on 2 disks, and it didn't bother me one bit.
[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]I bet they wish they had blue-ray. Vyse_The_Daring
Hmmmm......no. Swapping discs is a good alternative to spending unneeded cash. Quote for truth, I seem to do that to a lot of your posts Spartan. I feel creepy. :| My favourite game of all time comes on 2 disks, and it didn't bother me one bit. You'd think people would realize there isn't really a problem here. I don't mind changing disks at all. Gives you something to aim for.
[QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"]if anyone actually installs games onto their HDD they are wasting their timeFelous1
"The three-minute installation process, which begs the question of how much space is Genji using of the 4GB Blu-Ray disc, will reduces load times from 15 seconds to 4." I would install. How much does it store on the PS3 HDD....at this rate the PS3 60 GB HDD might fill up faster than a 360 HDD....
[QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]I bet they wish they had blue-ray. Felous1
Blu-ray read speed is slower. Which is why you see developers installing 5gb of data in your HDD. thats a myth its usually the same speed but constant instead of jumpy, jumpy disc speeds is another reason so many 360s fail and ps3s hardly fail.
How much does it store on the PS3 HDD....at this rate the PS3 60 GB HDD might fill up faster than a 360 HDD....Tulak_Hord
I don't own one. But I know that Ridge Racer 7 installs 5gb, Genji 4gb, and VF5 2gb, and I think Oblivion will install about 5gb. Don't know about the other games...
[QUOTE="Tulak_Hord"]How much does it store on the PS3 HDD....at this rate the PS3 60 GB HDD might fill up faster than a 360 HDD....Felous1
I don't own one. But I know that Ridge Racer 7 installs 5gb, Genji 4gb, and VF5 5gb, and I think Oblivion will install about 5gb. Don't know about the other games... Damn......that is just too much space to be stored..... it were like 500 MB, that would be better. So If I get a PS3, I would have to buy a new HDD before I fill up my 360's 20 GB HDD? Damn, that sucks.
I don't own one. But I know that Ridge Racer 7 installs 5gb, Genji 4gb, and VF5 5gb, and I think Oblivion will install about 5gb. Don't know about the other games...Felous1
Although... in somewhat of a defence... that is not a permanent installation. It is only temporary until you un-install it. Although, the inconvenience of installing and re-installing it will be a great hassle in itself when people start getting more than 10 games.
Ironic that for movies the big selling point is multiple discs. As far as 1080p goes I thought very few PS3 games run it, the NBA title does and the Marvel game, any others?
Although... in somewhat of a defence... that is not a permanent installation. It is only temporary until you un-install it. Although, the inconvenience of installing and re-installing it will be a great hassle in itself when people start getting more than 10 games.foxhound_fox
Another reason why some PS3 fans should stop and think before making fun of multiple discs.
[QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"][QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]I bet they wish they had blue-ray. CarlosPontinas
Hmmmm......no. Swapping discs is a good alternative to spending unneeded cash. Quote for truth, I seem to do that to a lot of your posts Spartan. I feel creepy. :| My favourite game of all time comes on 2 disks, and it didn't bother me one bit. You'd think people would realize there isn't really a problem here. I don't mind changing disks at all. Gives you something to aim for. i dont get the spending unneeded cash, games are the same price on both consoles so that logic fails. if you are taking about console price then thats a whole different issue, and is still better on ps3 cus blu-ray is the winner and hd-dvd won have as many movies as blu-ray when all is said and done so the variety will blow. and the extra space for games never hurts, im sure if 360 played hd-dvd for games the mass effect devs wouldve taken full advantage, cus it sounds like they werent to confident for dvd 9 and didnt want multiple discs so had to make some cuts in places. and i heard blue dragon was 2 discs, is that true?
[QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]I bet they wish they had blue-ray. Prid3r
Gotta love the loading times and the HDD installs :lol: ! yeah, I mean, this is ridiculous.....Cows were mocking the 360 for it's small HDD, but it has proven to be very big......the PS3 console has some games with 4-5 GB installs for more bearable load times. What about people with the 20 GB PS3.....This is really messed up. They should have included a bigger drive.
you should at an "at the moment" to everyting Hayashi said because the ps3 will most definetly get some 1080p games in the future that looks as good if not better than the best looking 720p games of this year...
[QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"][QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]I bet they wish they had blue-ray. R-Dot-Yung
Hmmmm......no. Swapping discs is a good alternative to spending unneeded cash. Quote for truth, I seem to do that to a lot of your posts Spartan. I feel creepy. :| My favourite game of all time comes on 2 disks, and it didn't bother me one bit. You'd think people would realize there isn't really a problem here. I don't mind changing disks at all. Gives you something to aim for. for lazy people like me, once i get comfortable, i HATE moving, hahahaha i agree, its not that bigga deal, but if u dont have to then why do it Once per 40 hours of playing.:?
[QUOTE="Felous1"][QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]I bet they wish they had blue-ray. Me-Ur-Daddy
Blu-ray read speed is slower. Which is why you see developers installing 5gb of data in your HDD. thats a myth its usually the same speed but constant instead of jumpy, jumpy disc speeds is another reason so many 360s fail and ps3s hardly fail.
No, its not a myth, the PS3's BD drive reads at 8.7 MB/s, the 360's DVD drive reads at 16.5 MB/s.
[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Although... in somewhat of a defence... that is not a permanent installation. It is only temporary until you un-install it. Although, the inconvenience of installing and re-installing it will be a great hassle in itself when people start getting more than 10 games.Felous1
Another reason why some PS3 fans should stop and think before making fun of multiple discs. but who plays 10 games at the same time ? playing a couple of games then deleting the install and sitting through a 2 minute install is not that much of a hassle compared to say swapping discs for a free roaming game like GTA which is possible. and not every game installs on the HDD so unless you are buying games that strictly install on HDD that logic also fails.
you should at an "at the moment" to everyting Hayashi said because the ps3 will most definetly get some 1080p games in the future that looks as good if not better than the best looking 720p games of this year...munu9
He's not the first one to say that 1080p takes a hit on the performance.
[QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"][QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]I bet they wish they had blue-ray. R-Dot-Yung
Hmmmm......no. Swapping discs is a good alternative to spending unneeded cash. Quote for truth, I seem to do that to a lot of your posts Spartan. I feel creepy. :| My favourite game of all time comes on 2 disks, and it didn't bother me one bit. You'd think people would realize there isn't really a problem here. I don't mind changing disks at all. Gives you something to aim for. for lazy people like me, once i get comfortable, i HATE moving, hahahaha i agree, its not that bigga deal, but if u dont have to then why do it The alternative is to build a shoddy prototype high density disk player into your console, pricing it out of contention then watching it gather dust on the shelves.
[QUOTE="Prid3r"][QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]I bet they wish they had blue-ray. Tulak_Hord
Gotta love the loading times and the HDD installs :lol: ! yeah, I mean, this is ridiculous.....Cows were mocking the 360 for it's small HDD, but it has proven to be very big......the PS3 console has some games with 4-5 GB installs for more bearable load times. What about people with the 20 GB PS3.....This is really messed up. They should have included a bigger drive.
4GB-5GB is not tipical, 1GB or less is more typical. And unlike the xbox360 HDD, you can upgrade the ps3's HDD anytime you want with any 2.5 inch HDD or just get the 60GB version :
[QUOTE="Me-Ur-Daddy"][QUOTE="Felous1"][QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]I bet they wish they had blue-ray. Nagidar
Blu-ray read speed is slower. Which is why you see developers installing 5gb of data in your HDD. thats a myth its usually the same speed but constant instead of jumpy, jumpy disc speeds is another reason so many 360s fail and ps3s hardly fail.
No, its not a myth, the PS3's BD drive reads at 8.7 MB/s, the 360's DVD drive reads at 16.5 MB/s.
wheres the link buddy to a credible source, and did you know that the dvd drive is jumpy and only reads fast on the edge of the disc, how often do games do that ? the blu ray speed is only slow for blu ray standards because new players are getting extremely fast.
[QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"][QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]I bet they wish they had blue-ray. CarlosPontinas
Hmmmm......no. Swapping discs is a good alternative to spending unneeded cash. Quote for truth, I seem to do that to a lot of your posts Spartan. I feel creepy. :| My favourite game of all time comes on 2 disks, and it didn't bother me one bit. You'd think people would realize there isn't really a problem here. I don't mind changing disks at all. Gives you something to aim for. for lazy people like me, once i get comfortable, i HATE moving, hahahaha i agree, its not that bigga deal, but if u dont have to then why do it The alternative is to build a shoddy prototype high density disk player into your console, pricing it out of contention then watching it gather dust on the shelves.
It may have made the ps3 expensive but don't stoup to this fanboy level by calling the ps3's blu-ray drive "shoddy" It's a very good blu-ray drive and in some has held up better at launch than the xbox360's DVD drive...
PC maybe* Mass Effect is a trilogy, they might not have enough time to port it over, you never know. the same can be said about Gears, but now it is also coming to PC, dont try to defend the PC port issue cus we all know MS is gonna bring over the big hitters to support vista and its DX10 capability.
[QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"][QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]I bet they wish they had blue-ray. munu9
Hmmmm......no. Swapping discs is a good alternative to spending unneeded cash. Quote for truth, I seem to do that to a lot of your posts Spartan. I feel creepy. :| My favourite game of all time comes on 2 disks, and it didn't bother me one bit. You'd think people would realize there isn't really a problem here. I don't mind changing disks at all. Gives you something to aim for. for lazy people like me, once i get comfortable, i HATE moving, hahahaha i agree, its not that bigga deal, but if u dont have to then why do it The alternative is to build a shoddy prototype high density disk player into your console, pricing it out of contention then watching it gather dust on the shelves.
It may have made the ps3 expensive but don't stoup to this fanboy level by calling the ps3's blu-ray drive "shoddy" It's a very good blu-ray drive and in some has held up better at launch than the xbox360's DVD drive...
How many blue ray drives are there for comparison? I don't think there are many. Truth be told anyone who bought a PS3 for its BR drive bought a turkey.
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