Mass Effect, multiple discs, and 1080p. (Trolls will be reported on sight !)

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[QUOTE="Felous1"][QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"]PC yes, PS3 noMe-Ur-Daddy
PC maybe* Mass Effect is a trilogy, they might not have enough time to port it over, you never know.

the same can be said about Gears, but now it is also coming to PC, dont try to defend the PC port issue cus we all know MS is gonna bring over the big hitters to support vista and its DX10 capability.

yup, Halo 2 will for PC will support DX10 only.
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[QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"]PC yes, PS3 noFelous1
PC maybe* Mass Effect is a trilogy, they might not have enough time to port it over, you never know.



I dont think its coming they just goin to bring a brand new game to the ps3 instead..i rather have a brand new game then sloppy ports...
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[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

[QUOTE="Me-Ur-Daddy"][QUOTE="Felous1"][QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]I bet they wish they had blue-ray.
Me-Ur-Daddy

Blu-ray read speed is slower. Which is why you see developers installing 5gb of data in your HDD.

thats a myth its usually the same speed but constant instead of jumpy, jumpy disc speeds is another reason so many 360s fail and ps3s hardly fail.

No, its not a myth, the PS3's BD drive reads at 8.7 MB/s, the 360's DVD drive reads at 16.5 MB/s.

wheres the link buddy to a credible source, and did you know that the dvd drive is jumpy and only reads fast on the edge of the disc, how often do games do that ? the blu ray speed is only slow for blu ray standards because new players are getting extremely fast.

360 and PS3 read speeds.

 For those who don't want to click the link:

"Now between Blu-Rays immense amount of storage space and it being a new High Definition Movie format which will enable all PS3s to play Blu-Ray movies there seems to not be a single drawback to the inclusion of Blu-Ray…or is there? Well there is one drawback. The 360’s DVD drive pulls information off of a 12X DVD disc twice as fast as the PS3’s 2X Blu-Ray does off of a Blu-Ray disc. The 360’s 12 DVD drive has a speed of 16.5 megabytes per second compared to the PS3’s 2X Blu-ray drive which has a speed of 8.7 megabytes per second. I found this information regarding the speed of the ps3's blu ray drive and 360's DVD drive while reading a developer's rants on what he thought about both these consoles and he said both consoles are extremely powerful, but are neglecting something rather important. He says processing speed continues to increase, GPU performance continues to increase and the amount of available memory is increasing and yet there have been no such similar improvements as to how fast they can read data from the disc. He suggests either giving the console 1GB of ram or come up with a solution in the future. I’m not immediately counting out Blu-Ray because it deserves a chance to prove itself so I’ll still actively be on the lookout for any decisive signs which may make its true impact a bit more clear."

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[QUOTE="Tulak_Hord"][QUOTE="Prid3r"][QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]I bet they wish they had blue-ray.
munu9

Gotta love the loading times and the HDD installs :lol: !

yeah, I mean, this is ridiculous.....Cows were mocking the 360 for it's small HDD, but it has proven to be very big......the PS3 console has some games with 4-5 GB installs for more bearable load times. What about people with the 20 GB PS3.....This is really messed up. They should have included a bigger drive.

4GB-5GB is not tipical, 1GB or less is more typical. And unlike the xbox360 HDD, you can upgrade the ps3's HDD anytime you want with any 2.5 inch HDD or just get the 60GB version :

But with the 360, I don't have to buy any extra HDD's, one upgrade should be enough for the 360's lifespan, for me. I don't feel like Buying an HDD every couple of games I install on it. I am about to buy an HDTV, PS3, Wii and a rig. So I don't think I want to be spending extra money like that, I can afford all these things right now, but I am a college student who pays for his own tuition, and taking out that kind of money at once is crippling.
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#55 munu9
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How many blue ray drives are there for comparison? I don't think there are many. Truth be told anyone who bought a PS3 for its BR drive bought a turkey.CarlosPontinas

Well, there aren't any blu-ray drives specifically to compare but there were many blu-ray players to compare, and the ps3 beat or matched many $1000 blu-ray players in terms of quality expect sony's dedicated blu-ray player and sony's only beat the ps3 by a small margine... And the ps3 is currently the only blu-ray player that can do 7.1 channel sound...

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I dont think its coming they just goin to bring a brand new game to the ps3 instead..i rather have a brand new game then sloppy ports..ps3gen
Watch your language when talking about BioWare. BioWare is God.
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[QUOTE="ps3gen"]I dont think its coming they just goin to bring a brand new game to the ps3 instead..i rather have a brand new game then sloppy ports..Felous1
Watch your language when talking about BioWare. BioWare is God.

Bioware has had some sloppy ports in the past. Oh, and Black Isle is better.

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[QUOTE="Felous1"][QUOTE="ps3gen"]I dont think its coming they just goin to bring a brand new game to the ps3 instead..i rather have a brand new game then sloppy ports..Hammerofjustice
Watch your language when talking about Blizzard. Blizzard is God.

Fixed.

"lol"
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[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"] How many blue ray drives are there for comparison? I don't think there are many. Truth be told anyone who bought a PS3 for its BR drive bought a turkey.munu9

Well, there aren't any blu-ray drives specifically to compare but there were many blu-ray players to compare, and the ps3 beat or matched many $1000 blu-ray players in terms of quality expect sony's dedicated blu-ray player and sony's only beat the ps3 by a small margine... And the ps3 is currently the only blu-ray player that can do 7.1 channel sound...

If I'm going to buy a dedicated blue ray player then I'll buy a blue ray player. If I'm after a games console I'll get a games console. I don't want both in the same box. That reminds me of those old TV/Tape decks in the 80s.

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#61 munu9
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[QUOTE="munu9"]

[QUOTE="Tulak_Hord"][QUOTE="Prid3r"][QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]I bet they wish they had blue-ray.
Tulak_Hord

Gotta love the loading times and the HDD installs :lol: !

yeah, I mean, this is ridiculous.....Cows were mocking the 360 for it's small HDD, but it has proven to be very big......the PS3 console has some games with 4-5 GB installs for more bearable load times. What about people with the 20 GB PS3.....This is really messed up. They should have included a bigger drive.

4GB-5GB is not tipical, 1GB or less is more typical. And unlike the xbox360 HDD, you can upgrade the ps3's HDD anytime you want with any 2.5 inch HDD or just get the 60GB version :

But with the 360, I don't have to buy any extra HDD's, one upgrade should be enough for the 360's lifespan, for me. I don't feel like Buying an HDD every couple of games I install on it. I am about to buy an HDTV, PS3, Wii and a rig. So I don't think I want to be spending extra money like that, I can afford all these things right now, but I am a college student who pays for his own tuition, and taking out that kind of money at once is crippling.

Seriously dude, you'd be unlucky if you only have room enough for 12 games on the 60GB :| "What is this buying a new HDD every couple games"  crap? And even if you had to, you could by a 120GB 2.5inch HDD for $80, enough to hold at least 20 games... (60GB for about $50 or less) If you had to upgrade for the xbox360 you'd get a 20GB for $100 :

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#62 munu9
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[QUOTE="munu9"]

[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"] How many blue ray drives are there for comparison? I don't think there are many. Truth be told anyone who bought a PS3 for its BR drive bought a turkey.CarlosPontinas

Well, there aren't any blu-ray drives specifically to compare but there were many blu-ray players to compare, and the ps3 beat or matched many $1000 blu-ray players in terms of quality expect sony's dedicated blu-ray player and sony's only beat the ps3 by a small margine... And the ps3 is currently the only blu-ray player that can do 7.1 channel sound...

If I'm going to buy a dedicated blue ray player then I'll buy a blue ray player. If I'm after a games console I'll get a games console. I don't want both in the same box. That reminds me of those old TV/Tape decks in the 80s.

okay, but my point is the blu-ray drive in the ps3 is in no way shoddy, and there was absolutely no predicted "BDRE"

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#63 Me-Ur-Daddy
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[QUOTE="Me-Ur-Daddy"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]

[QUOTE="Me-Ur-Daddy"][QUOTE="Felous1"][QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]I bet they wish they had blue-ray.
Nagidar

Blu-ray read speed is slower. Which is why you see developers installing 5gb of data in your HDD.

thats a myth its usually the same speed but constant instead of jumpy, jumpy disc speeds is another reason so many 360s fail and ps3s hardly fail.

No, its not a myth, the PS3's BD drive reads at 8.7 MB/s, the 360's DVD drive reads at 16.5 MB/s.

wheres the link buddy to a credible source, and did you know that the dvd drive is jumpy and only reads fast on the edge of the disc, how often do games do that ? the blu ray speed is only slow for blu ray standards because new players are getting extremely fast.

360 and PS3 read speeds.

 For those who don't want to click the link:

"Now between Blu-Rays immense amount of storage space and it being a new High Definition Movie format which will enable all PS3s to play Blu-Ray movies there seems to not be a single drawback to the inclusion of Blu-Ray…or is there? Well there is one drawback. The 360’s DVD drive pulls information off of a 12X DVD disc twice as fast as the PS3’s 2X Blu-Ray does off of a Blu-Ray disc. The 360’s 12 DVD drive has a speed of 16.5 megabytes per second compared to the PS3’s 2X Blu-ray drive which has a speed of 8.7 megabytes per second. I found this information regarding the speed of the ps3's blu ray drive and 360's DVD drive while reading a developer's rants on what he thought about both these consoles and he said both consoles are extremely powerful, but are neglecting something rather important. He says processing speed continues to increase, GPU performance continues to increase and the amount of available memory is increasing and yet there have been no such similar improvements as to how fast they can read data from the disc. He suggests either giving the console 1GB of ram or come up with a solution in the future. I’m not immediately counting out Blu-Ray because it deserves a chance to prove itself so I’ll still actively be on the lookout for any decisive signs which may make its true impact a bit more clear."

you still didnt answer my question, infact you shied away from it which is funny :lol:
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[QUOTE="Tulak_Hord"][QUOTE="munu9"]

[QUOTE="Tulak_Hord"][QUOTE="Prid3r"][QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]I bet they wish they had blue-ray.
munu9

Gotta love the loading times and the HDD installs :lol: !

yeah, I mean, this is ridiculous.....Cows were mocking the 360 for it's small HDD, but it has proven to be very big......the PS3 console has some games with 4-5 GB installs for more bearable load times. What about people with the 20 GB PS3.....This is really messed up. They should have included a bigger drive.

4GB-5GB is not tipical, 1GB or less is more typical. And unlike the xbox360 HDD, you can upgrade the ps3's HDD anytime you want with any 2.5 inch HDD or just get the 60GB version :

But with the 360, I don't have to buy any extra HDD's, one upgrade should be enough for the 360's lifespan, for me. I don't feel like Buying an HDD every couple of games I install on it. I am about to buy an HDTV, PS3, Wii and a rig. So I don't think I want to be spending extra money like that, I can afford all these things right now, but I am a college student who pays for his own tuition, and taking out that kind of money at once is crippling.

Seriously dude, you'd be unlucky if you only have room enough for 12 games on the 60GB :| "What is this buying a new HDD every couple games" crap? And even if you had to, you could by a 120GB 2.5inch HDD for $80, enough to hold at least 20 games... (60GB for >=$50) If you had to upgrade for the xbox360 you'd get a 20GB for $100 :

Atleast for the 360, I won't have to buy my HDD anytime soon, not in the next two to three years or more. Since the saves files are small, I don't store music on it, since I have Media Center on the PC, and I don't store too many demos at once. So I would be surprised if I run out of space this gen, since I don't really download that many XBL videos and hold on to them. But buying another HDD sooner than the 360 is not a good sign. Considering if more games that I might buy will continue to hold installs that big, this doesn't really look too good.
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[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="munu9"]

[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"] How many blue ray drives are there for comparison? I don't think there are many. Truth be told anyone who bought a PS3 for its BR drive bought a turkey.munu9

Well, there aren't any blu-ray drives specifically to compare but there were many blu-ray players to compare, and the ps3 beat or matched many $1000 blu-ray players in terms of quality expect sony's dedicated blu-ray player and sony's only beat the ps3 by a small margine... And the ps3 is currently the only blu-ray player that can do 7.1 channel sound...

If I'm going to buy a dedicated blue ray player then I'll buy a blue ray player. If I'm after a games console I'll get a games console. I don't want both in the same box. That reminds me of those old TV/Tape decks in the 80s.

okay, but my point is the blu-ray drive in the ps3 is in no way shoddy, and there was absolutely no predicted "BDRE"

The fact that it's bundled with a compromised games console doesn't make it endearing to me. But... each to his own I guess. If it suits your needs or whatever then that's fine. I just don't think it's an incentive for me.
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Hey Nagidar, just ignore the trolls and they will go away.
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#67 munu9
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[QUOTE="munu9"][QUOTE="Tulak_Hord"][QUOTE="munu9"]

[QUOTE="Tulak_Hord"][QUOTE="Prid3r"][QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]I bet they wish they had blue-ray.
Tulak_Hord

Gotta love the loading times and the HDD installs :lol: !

yeah, I mean, this is ridiculous.....Cows were mocking the 360 for it's small HDD, but it has proven to be very big......the PS3 console has some games with 4-5 GB installs for more bearable load times. What about people with the 20 GB PS3.....This is really messed up. They should have included a bigger drive.

4GB-5GB is not tipical, 1GB or less is more typical. And unlike the xbox360 HDD, you can upgrade the ps3's HDD anytime you want with any 2.5 inch HDD or just get the 60GB version :

But with the 360, I don't have to buy any extra HDD's, one upgrade should be enough for the 360's lifespan, for me. I don't feel like Buying an HDD every couple of games I install on it. I am about to buy an HDTV, PS3, Wii and a rig. So I don't think I want to be spending extra money like that, I can afford all these things right now, but I am a college student who pays for his own tuition, and taking out that kind of money at once is crippling.

Seriously dude, you'd be unlucky if you only have room enough for 12 games on the 60GB :| "What is this buying a new HDD every couple games" crap? And even if you had to, you could by a 120GB 2.5inch HDD for $80, enough to hold at least 20 games... (60GB for >=$50) If you had to upgrade for the xbox360 you'd get a 20GB for $100 :

Atleast for the 360, I won't have to buy my HDD anytime soon, not in the next two to three years or more. Since the saves files are small, I don't store music on it, since I have Media Center on the PC, and I don't store too many demos at once. So I would be surprised if I run out of space this gen, since I don't really download that many XBL videos and hold on to them. But buying another HDD sooner than the 360 is not a good sign. Considering if more games that I might buy will continue to hold installs that big, this doesn't really look too good.

well, I could say the same for the 60GB version, especially since I doubt I'll be buying more than 15 games for the ps3 alone. And especially since I doubt the HD install will average to more than 3GB for each game...

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[QUOTE="Felous1"][QUOTE="ps3gen"]I dont think its coming they just goin to bring a brand new game to the ps3 instead..i rather have a brand new game then sloppy ports..Hammerofjustice
Watch your language when talking about Bioware. Bioware is God.

Fixed.

Fixed again.

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this proves that blu ray will save developers time and money instead of wasting time and money on making a game fit on a disc developers can spend more time tweaking and polishing a game meaning more profit for them and less of a wait for games to be released for us as customers
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well, I could say the same for the 60GB version, especially since I doubt I'll be buying more than 15 games for the ps3 alone. And especially since I doubt the HD install will average to more than 3GB for each game...

munu9

I think I will probably be buying more than 15 games (since I usually bid on games, only certain games, I will buy at release). So, that's were it's a problem for me.....but hopefully, that average will stay low.
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#71 xxgunslingerxx
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[QUOTE="Tulak_Hord"][QUOTE="munu9"][QUOTE="Tulak_Hord"][QUOTE="munu9"]

[QUOTE="Tulak_Hord"][QUOTE="Prid3r"][QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]I bet they wish they had blue-ray.
munu9

Gotta love the loading times and the HDD installs :lol: !

yeah, I mean, this is ridiculous.....Cows were mocking the 360 for it's small HDD, but it has proven to be very big......the PS3 console has some games with 4-5 GB installs for more bearable load times. What about people with the 20 GB PS3.....This is really messed up. They should have included a bigger drive.

4GB-5GB is not tipical, 1GB or less is more typical. And unlike the xbox360 HDD, you can upgrade the ps3's HDD anytime you want with any 2.5 inch HDD or just get the 60GB version :

But with the 360, I don't have to buy any extra HDD's, one upgrade should be enough for the 360's lifespan, for me. I don't feel like Buying an HDD every couple of games I install on it. I am about to buy an HDTV, PS3, Wii and a rig. So I don't think I want to be spending extra money like that, I can afford all these things right now, but I am a college student who pays for his own tuition, and taking out that kind of money at once is crippling.

Seriously dude, you'd be unlucky if you only have room enough for 12 games on the 60GB :| "What is this buying a new HDD every couple games" crap? And even if you had to, you could by a 120GB 2.5inch HDD for $80, enough to hold at least 20 games... (60GB for >=$50) If you had to upgrade for the xbox360 you'd get a 20GB for $100 :

Atleast for the 360, I won't have to buy my HDD anytime soon, not in the next two to three years or more. Since the saves files are small, I don't store music on it, since I have Media Center on the PC, and I don't store too many demos at once. So I would be surprised if I run out of space this gen, since I don't really download that many XBL videos and hold on to them. But buying another HDD sooner than the 360 is not a good sign. Considering if more games that I might buy will continue to hold installs that big, this doesn't really look too good.

well, I could say the same for the 60GB version, especially since I doubt I'll be buying more than 15 games for the ps3 alone. And especially since I doubt the HD install will average to more than 3GB for each game...

the only games with big installs where ridge racer 4gb and virtua fighter 2 gb
resistance was only 200mb nhl2k7 no install marvel ultimate alliance no install

btw the installs are mostly speeding up the initial load time ie u dont have to wait for a minute of load screens all games load pretty quickly even without installing them

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thats a great.
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this proves that blu ray will save developers time and money instead of wasting time and money on making a game fit on a disc developers can spend more time tweaking and polishing a game meaning more profit for them and less of a wait for games to be released for us as customersxxgunslingerxx
Think again. Microsoft provides developers with better tools, which also saves them time and money.
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#74 Felous1
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and virtua fighter 2 gbxxgunslingerxx
Yup. "Those graphics seem to come at a bit of a price, though, as the load times between fights can be lengthy, which really slows down the action. It's a little puzzling, considering the game installs more than 2GB of data to the PS3's hard drive.." http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/virtuafighter5/review.html?q=virtua%20fighter
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I bet they wish they had blue-ray.
Trading_Zoner
Quit poking sticks, you cows faced the same problem and it never hurt you!
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#76 blackace
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Mass Effect is going to own, that's all that matters. Vyse_The_Daring

Exactly! Even if it was on 3 discs I would still gladly get this game. It's going to be incredible.

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#77 Warp_2567
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Swapping discs isn't a big deal, as long as it's something you only need to do once in a great while.

Like FF7 style.

CelineDion

yea I agree, but if its something like a GTA game then that would be hella annoying.
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link http://www.joystiq.com/2007/02/27/mass-effect-to-fit-snugly-onto-one-disc/
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[QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="Me-Ur-Daddy"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]

[QUOTE="Me-Ur-Daddy"][QUOTE="Felous1"][QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]I bet they wish they had blue-ray.
Me-Ur-Daddy

Blu-ray read speed is slower. Which is why you see developers installing 5gb of data in your HDD.

thats a myth its usually the same speed but constant instead of jumpy, jumpy disc speeds is another reason so many 360s fail and ps3s hardly fail.

No, its not a myth, the PS3's BD drive reads at 8.7 MB/s, the 360's DVD drive reads at 16.5 MB/s.

wheres the link buddy to a credible source, and did you know that the dvd drive is jumpy and only reads fast on the edge of the disc, how often do games do that ? the blu ray speed is only slow for blu ray standards because new players are getting extremely fast.

360 and PS3 read speeds.

 For those who don't want to click the link:

"Now between Blu-Rays immense amount of storage space and it being a new High Definition Movie format which will enable all PS3s to play Blu-Ray movies there seems to not be a single drawback to the inclusion of Blu-Ray…or is there? Well there is one drawback. The 360’s DVD drive pulls information off of a 12X DVD disc twice as fast as the PS3’s 2X Blu-Ray does off of a Blu-Ray disc. The 360’s 12 DVD drive has a speed of 16.5 megabytes per second compared to the PS3’s 2X Blu-ray drive which has a speed of 8.7 megabytes per second. I found this information regarding the speed of the ps3's blu ray drive and 360's DVD drive while reading a developer's rants on what he thought about both these consoles and he said both consoles are extremely powerful, but are neglecting something rather important. He says processing speed continues to increase, GPU performance continues to increase and the amount of available memory is increasing and yet there have been no such similar improvements as to how fast they can read data from the disc. He suggests either giving the console 1GB of ram or come up with a solution in the future. I’m not immediately counting out Blu-Ray because it deserves a chance to prove itself so I’ll still actively be on the lookout for any decisive signs which may make its true impact a bit more clear."

you still didnt answer my question, infact you shied away from it which is funny :lol:

 How did I stray away from anything? I post a link, stating the overall read speed of the 360 is twice as fast as the PS3 (Hence why the option to install pieces of the game on the PS3's HDD exist) and thats your response!?

Come on dude, you can do better than that.

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[QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="Me-Ur-Daddy"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="Me-Ur-Daddy"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]

[QUOTE="Me-Ur-Daddy"][QUOTE="Felous1"][QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]I bet they wish they had blue-ray.
Me-Ur-Daddy

Blu-ray read speed is slower. Which is why you see developers installing 5gb of data in your HDD.

thats a myth its usually the same speed but constant instead of jumpy, jumpy disc speeds is another reason so many 360s fail and ps3s hardly fail.

No, its not a myth, the PS3's BD drive reads at 8.7 MB/s, the 360's DVD drive reads at 16.5 MB/s.

wheres the link buddy to a credible source, and did you know that the dvd drive is jumpy and only reads fast on the edge of the disc, how often do games do that ? the blu ray speed is only slow for blu ray standards because new players are getting extremely fast.

360 and PS3 read speeds.

 For those who don't want to click the link:

"Now between Blu-Rays immense amount of storage space and it being a new High Definition Movie format which will enable all PS3s to play Blu-Ray movies there seems to not be a single drawback to the inclusion of Blu-Ray…or is there? Well there is one drawback. The 360’s DVD drive pulls information off of a 12X DVD disc twice as fast as the PS3’s 2X Blu-Ray does off of a Blu-Ray disc. The 360’s 12 DVD drive has a speed of 16.5 megabytes per second compared to the PS3’s 2X Blu-ray drive which has a speed of 8.7 megabytes per second. I found this information regarding the speed of the ps3's blu ray drive and 360's DVD drive while reading a developer's rants on what he thought about both these consoles and he said both consoles are extremely powerful, but are neglecting something rather important. He says processing speed continues to increase, GPU performance continues to increase and the amount of available memory is increasing and yet there have been no such similar improvements as to how fast they can read data from the disc. He suggests either giving the console 1GB of ram or come up with a solution in the future. I’m not immediately counting out Blu-Ray because it deserves a chance to prove itself so I’ll still actively be on the lookout for any decisive signs which may make its true impact a bit more clear."

you still didnt answer my question, infact you shied away from it which is funny :lol:

 How did I stray away from anything? I post a link, stating the overall read speed of the 360 is twice as fast as the PS3 (Hence why the option to install pieces of the game on the PS3's HDD exist) and thats your response!?

Come on dude, you can do better than that.

hey buddy just to inform you on your ignorance, it doesnt read anywhere near that fast on average, it reads faster on one of the edges of the disc 1. how often does a game fill up the disc all the way to the edge like this one 2. it would only be read on the edge for a short period of time, cus you cant fit a whole game on the edge of a disc so again you failed to answer my question, how often is it really reading that fast ? almost never. this is a reason many 360s overheat besides its faulty hardware, the drive is cheap and since dvd drives are jumpy and dont read constant like blu-ray, it puts strain on the system and causes catastrophic failure in many cases, hence the complaints about loud drives etc.

Answer me this than smart guy, why do PS3 games have longer load times than the 360?

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[QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]I bet they wish they had blue-ray.
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Hmmmm......no. Swapping discs is a good alternative to spending unneeded cash.

Good for them...bad for you.
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Mass Effect is going to own, that's all that matters. Vyse_The_Daring
I concur, sir.
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[QUOTE="Felous1"][QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"]PC yes, PS3 nops3gen
PC maybe* Mass Effect is a trilogy, they might not have enough time to port it over, you never know.



I dont think its coming they just goin to bring a brand new game to the ps3 instead..i rather have a brand new game then sloppy ports...

than why do you own the ps3?

In other news, I heard ps3 versions of Oblivion and Fear are developing pretty nicely.

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[QUOTE="Felous1"] Mass Effect

So, Mass Effect barely fits in one disc, which in one hand is kinda worrying if you don't like multiple discs, but on the other hand it's also not a big deal because of this:

"Does “Mass Effect” fit on one disc?
Yep, but just barely. This is a monstrous game. In fact, there was a time – not too long ago – when we pretty much scoffed at the idea of fitting onto one disc. But, there’s an art to optimizing the data that goes on a disc plus we have a few programmers that seem to pull off magic tricks right when we need them. "




Multiple discs

I never had any problem with the Playstation 1. Not many games were in multiple discs, in the worst scenario the 360 will be just like it.




1080p

Yohsuke Hayashi, the director of Ninja Sigma had this to say this about 1080p:

"Well, this game is going to support 720p, and that is because we have determined that this is optimal resolution to get the best quality images out of the PS3. There are companies out there that are developing games at 1080p, and the problem is that they’re really pushing the limits of the hardware at that resolution, and I think that if you examine it objectively you will see that in order to get the best balance of performance and image quality then 720p is your only choice. I think that the companies that are making a big deal out of making games at 1080p are either underestimating their ability to get their games to run well at that resolution, or they’re basically just using that as an advertising gimmick. I’m confident that if you want to make the best-looking game you can on PS3, then 720p is your only choice."



That does not change the fact that Mass Effect has horrible framerate. I will be getting it for pc.
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[QUOTE="Felous1"] Mass Effect

So, Mass Effect barely fits in one disc, which in one hand is kinda worrying if you don't like multiple discs, but on the other hand it's also not a big deal because of this:

"Does “Mass Effect” fit on one disc?
Yep, but just barely. This is a monstrous game. In fact, there was a time – not too long ago – when we pretty much scoffed at the idea of fitting onto one disc. But, there’s an art to optimizing the data that goes on a disc plus we have a few programmers that seem to pull off magic tricks right when we need them. "




Multiple discs

I never had any problem with the Playstation 1. Not many games were in multiple discs, in the worst scenario the 360 will be just like it.




1080p

Yohsuke Hayashi, the director of Ninja Sigma had this to say this about 1080p:

"Well, this game is going to support 720p, and that is because we have determined that this is optimal resolution to get the best quality images out of the PS3. There are companies out there that are developing games at 1080p, and the problem is that they’re really pushing the limits of the hardware at that resolution, and I think that if you examine it objectively you will see that in order to get the best balance of performance and image quality then 720p is your only choice. I think that the companies that are making a big deal out of making games at 1080p are either underestimating their ability to get their games to run well at that resolution, or they’re basically just using that as an advertising gimmick. I’m confident that if you want to make the best-looking game you can on PS3, then 720p is your only choice."

-Reggaeton-


That does not change the fact that Mass Effect has horrible framerate. I will be getting it for pc.

ME has frame rate issues? Link?

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[QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]I bet they wish they had blue-ray.
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Hmmmm......no. Swapping discs is a good alternative to spending unneeded cash.

720p is fine for games. Disc swapping is OK for linear games, but what about open ended games like GTA, racing games and sports games? I think that the DVD format will be restrictive before this generation is over.
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#88 Raidea
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ME has frame rate issues? Link?Nagidar


In a fanboys world, framerates don't get optimised before release, and developers release the choppiest game possible.
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Well for once Sony wernt lying when they said the PS3 was like a PC- lol @ installing games
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[QUOTE="Nagidar"]ME has frame rate issues? Link?Raidea


In a fanboys world, framerates don't get optimised before release, and developers release the choppiest game possible.

+ they spend the last half year of game development with chatting about the weather.
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#91 X360PS3AMD05
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Exactly why i didn't care my $900 Sammy DLP doesn't support 1080P, now i just need a 360.
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Mass Effect is going to own, that's all that matters. Vyse_The_Daring
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#93 Paktahn
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Bioware is awesome. I'm willing to bet that Mass Effect will be bigger and have more content than any PS3 game this year. Maybe bigger than any PS3 ever released in terms of content.
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#94 gingerdivid
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Swapping discs isn't a big deal, as long as it's something you only need to do once in a great while.

Like FF7 style.

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I've got a curious 1080p question...I have an older 52 RCA 1080i tv....and as most know...when you put it on 1080i part of the picture is cut off.....will games that are 1080p fit fully on the screen or will I still miss the scores at the bottom of the screen? Thanks......