Mass Effect Proves the Need for Blu Ray

or maybe not! All these people on system wars keep saying how blu ray is NEEDED. I can understand their confusion, what with heavenly sword and uncharted nearly maxing out the blu ray disc and all. But take a look at Mass Effect, a game that is pobably much more epic and broader than both those ps3 games combined, yet only takes up a measly 6.4 gigs! Thats truly amazing. The game has some of the slickest graphics ever seen on a console and theres so much depth to the worlds. Not to emention over 2.5 million words of dialogue. Thats pretty frieking amazing. All with another 2.6 gigs left to boot! I've also heard people, cow's no doubt, saying how mass effect was trimmed by 4 gigs to make it fit on dvd9. If they have 2.6 gigs left over on the final product, why would they trim so much? Please, Cows, explain. Here is the link.

http://www.n4g.com/News-81134.aspx

Uncharted will prove that games need blu ray.DaysAirlines

Really?

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"]Uncharted will prove that games need blu ray.thirstychainsaw

Really?

I just stopped at "all these people." So who are these people? Blu-ray doesn't mean its going to me a longer game.

EDIT: The only reason why some people say Blu-ray is needed is because of GTA4 and PGR4.

Uncharted will prove that games need blu ray.DaysAirlines

No.

Uncharted will prove that games need blu ray.DaysAirlines

hasn't uncharted already come out? Whast this 'will' business? Either it 'has' or 'hasn't'. Look, boy, uncharted at max capacity blu ray is not much different than gears of war on dvd9. Really it isn't. Cow's say uncharted is better, lemmings say 360 is better. Thats abotu the only difference between the two.

well alot of the people said the performance of mass effect was bad...maybe with blue ray it could of been better?i-lick-monkeys

I don't think disc space is a factor that effects framerates.

lemmings say 'gears' is better.

well alot of the people said the performance of mass effect was bad...maybe with blue ray it could of been better?i-lick-monkeys

No it wouldn't.

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[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"]Uncharted will prove that games need blu ray.DaysAirlines

Really?

Uncharted will prove that games need blu ray.DaysAirlines

:lol: *coughs* mass effect

Uncharted will prove that games need blu ray.DaysAirlines

why?.. it's just uncompressed sound (nobody hears the difference (excpet the people that come running in saying they CAN hear it....).

It's not that much more than what's happenning in Assassins creed in graphics, textures, character animation... so, please elaborate

disc space has nothing to do with how long the game is . pokemon on ds is only 64mb and it has almost endles game play .deadmeat59

Winnar.

I just stopped at "all these people." So who are these people? Blu-ray doesn't mean its going to me a longer game.aznfool07

'You stopped? thats great, NO one cares. However, you say blu ray doesnt necessarily mean it's going to be a 'longer' game. Well thats true, but blu ray is supposed to have some kind of advantage (HD movie player not including). So what advantage might that be? Most would say higher qulaity graphics, more stuff on the screen. Well i got news for you, mass effect if filled with 'things', on 6.4 gigs. And considering that every developer iether says ps3 is 'same', 'slighly below' or 'slighly above' the ps3 in terms of power, having 'too much stuff' on the screen will effectively make the game unplayable. For an example, look no further than Lair.

[QUOTE="i-lick-monkeys"]well alot of the people said the performance of mass effect was bad...maybe with blue ray it could of been better?aznfool07

No it wouldn't.

how do you know?

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"]Uncharted will prove that games need blu ray.Always-Honest

why?.. it's just uncompressed sound (nobody hears the difference (excpet the people that come running in saying they CAN hear it....).

It's not that much more than what's happenning in Assassins creed in graphics, textures, character animation... so, please elaborate

Blu-ray has nothing to do with graphics.

[QUOTE="aznfool07"]

[QUOTE="i-lick-monkeys"]well alot of the people said the performance of mass effect was bad...maybe with blue ray it could of been better?i-lick-monkeys

No it wouldn't.

how do you know?

[QUOTE="aznfool07"]

[QUOTE="i-lick-monkeys"]well alot of the people said the performance of mass effect was bad...maybe with blue ray it could of been better?i-lick-monkeys

No it wouldn't.

how do you know?

[QUOTE="aznfool07"]I just stopped at "all these people." So who are these people? Blu-ray doesn't mean its going to me a longer game.oomph_aah

'You stopped? thats great, NO one cares. However, you say blu ray doesnt necessarily mean it's going to be a 'longer' game. Well thats true, but blu ray is supposed to have some kind of advantage (HD movie player not including). So what advantage might that be? Most would say higher qulaity graphics, more stuff on the screen. Well i got news for you, mass effect if filled with 'things', on 6.4 gigs. And considering that every developer iether says ps3 is 'same', 'slighly below' or 'slighly above' the ps3 in terms of power, having 'too much stuff' on the screen will effectively make the game unplayable. For an example, look no further than Lair.

What you get is higher quality sound and like you say more things on the screen. And yes, there can me too much things on screen to make the game unplayable but the key is putting enough and not too much not too little. What's too much and too less? I don't know. It depends on the game. Oh and did I say anything about how Mass Effect looks? IMO Mass Effect looks great and it doesn't need anything more on screen.

[QUOTE="thirstychainsaw"]

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"]Uncharted will prove that games need blu ray.DaysAirlines

Really?

lol funny guy :D btw blu-ray is only needed with movies or games that like Gt5 that hopefully will have 600+ cars not just the forza 300

[QUOTE="oomph_aah"]

[QUOTE="aznfool07"]I just stopped at "all these people." So who are these people? Blu-ray doesn't mean its going to me a longer game.aznfool07

'You stopped? thats great, NO one cares. However, you say blu ray doesnt necessarily mean it's going to be a 'longer' game. Well thats true, but blu ray is supposed to have some kind of advantage (HD movie player not including). So what advantage might that be? Most would say higher qulaity graphics, more stuff on the screen. Well i got news for you, mass effect if filled with 'things', on 6.4 gigs. And considering that every developer iether says ps3 is 'same', 'slighly below' or 'slighly above' the ps3 in terms of power, having 'too much stuff' on the screen will effectively make the game unplayable. For an example, look no further than Lair.

What you get is higher quality sound and like you say more things on the screen. And yes, there can me too much things on screen to make the game unplayable but the key is putting enough and not too much not too little. What's too much and too less? I don't know. It depends on the game. Oh and did I say anything about how Mass Effect looks? IMO Mass Effect looks great and it doesn't need anything more on screen.

buttttt, how would clu-ray help with the # of things of screen? i thought that was up to the hardware of the system not a disc....

[QUOTE="aznfool07"][QUOTE="oomph_aah"]

[QUOTE="aznfool07"]I just stopped at "all these people." So who are these people? Blu-ray doesn't mean its going to me a longer game.LibertySaint

'You stopped? thats great, NO one cares. However, you say blu ray doesnt necessarily mean it's going to be a 'longer' game. Well thats true, but blu ray is supposed to have some kind of advantage (HD movie player not including). So what advantage might that be? Most would say higher qulaity graphics, more stuff on the screen. Well i got news for you, mass effect if filled with 'things', on 6.4 gigs. And considering that every developer iether says ps3 is 'same', 'slighly below' or 'slighly above' the ps3 in terms of power, having 'too much stuff' on the screen will effectively make the game unplayable. For an example, look no further than Lair.

What you get is higher quality sound and like you say more things on the screen. And yes, there can me too much things on screen to make the game unplayable but the key is putting enough and not too much not too little. What's too much and too less? I don't know. It depends on the game. Oh and did I say anything about how Mass Effect looks? IMO Mass Effect looks great and it doesn't need anything more on screen.

buttttt, how would clu-ray help with the # of things of screen? i thought that was up to the hardware of the system not a disc....

You can have more things but its up to the hardware. You're right.

[QUOTE="aznfool07"]

[QUOTE="i-lick-monkeys"]well alot of the people said the performance of mass effect was bad...maybe with blue ray it could of been better?i-lick-monkeys

No it wouldn't.

how do you know?

Have you cows already forgotten about Heaven Sword? hamstergeddon

What are you talking about? Read the topic.

I read that Mass Effect is only 12 hours long and not as graphically pretty as screenshots may have you believe,headninjadog

where did you find this out?

well alot of the people said the performance of mass effect was bad...maybe with blue ray it could of been better?i-lick-monkeys

No, they just piled on to many effects and postprocessing details for the 360 to handle it. Though it is extremely pretty when high FPS isn't really necessary.

I read that Mass Effect is only 12 hours long and not as graphically pretty as screenshots may have you believe,headninjadog

misinformed.

I dont get this thread, 90% of the people in this forum says Bluray isn't needed and ME proves that...

Why most people motivate the making of a thread with lies?

In this gen, Blu-ray disc space is more of a luxuary than a necessity. More space means you can put more textures and datat in your games. The Next gen, however, will require either BD discs or HD-DVD discs becasue they will need more space. Kinda like how PS1 games were on CD-roms and PS3 games were on DVDs.

well if developers where to use the same (simular) techneques for compression on br discs then it would mean that they could put that much more into the disc....and to compensate for the middle ground speed of the blu-ray drive (its not as slow as rge 360 slowest speed but not as fast as the fastest read speed the dvd9 drive has) by hdd caching....cuz its not like devs dont already do that

see if the 360 had standard hdd then the dvd9 size would be a non-issue AT ALL

if the ps3 had a fast read speed for br disks...compression would be a no issue at all

in conclusion...they both suck ;)

i knew that blu-ray wasn't necessary at the start of the gen when Oblivion came out for 360

cows would have more of an argument with this is actual blu-ray games used the extra storage space

[QUOTE="hamstergeddon"]Have you cows already forgotten about Heaven Sword? aznfool07

What are you talking about? Read the topic.

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[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"]Uncharted will prove that games need blu ray.DaysAirlines

Really?

lol

It's not needed, but it helps allot.....

No need for two disks, no need for compression, which decreases the quality and full extent of everything in general, including sound, sometimes textures, etc....however, in the future, not blu-ray will be needed, but disks that hold much more space, which will equal better quality and higher sound outputs, etc... etc...and blu-ray does hold more space, thus it will satisfy this need...

You guys will see once you see PS3 games supporting 1080i or whatever, which superior sound quality beyond Surround Sound 7.1, and all the quality fanatics, who've gotten blu-ray because some of this stuff instead of HDDVD, the gap will only increase wider throughout the years...

It's basically like the 360 format will be likie when the 360 came out and Sony fans still had ps2's, it will be extremely inferior, and an intrest would be lost in it...

well honestly i think the game wouldve benefitted from blu ray not for length but for scale. there's a full galaxy to explore but only one planet has a civilization on it and the few others that you can actually land on are barren wastelands with a few enemies on them. thats really disappointing i wanted a big city on every planet. blu ray really couldve helped achieve that.blues3531

you understand that what you want doesnt need only space? it needs lots and lots of more man power and time, to make the same amount of money...