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#51 CDUB316
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[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

[QUOTE="Mutt523"] Still it's only a beta. You can't say it's going to suck or be good, because of a beta. Since the game isn't completed yet.sexxxyboy

you know...alot of people can say that, but honestly, out of all the betas i've played...the full game was nowhere near different than the beta

beta to full game doesn't change gameplay mechanics at all....it's only fixes bugs and EXTREMELY minor AI issues sometimes, but in MAGs case there is no AI

so basically if the guy has played the beta, says it sucks...i really don't think his opinion will change after that, it rarely ever does when going from beta to full

he didnt say it sucked tho he said it puts all other fps to shame.

the original quote in which this started from was the guy who called MAG....Medicore Action Game (or something like that)

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#52 mitu123
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That name is so generic, and I hope teams are organized and use headsets.

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#53 CDUB316
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That name is so generic, and I hope teams are organized and use headsets.

mitu123

just about every FPS this gen is generic

FPS has been done to death

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#54 PAL360
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Actually Dust 514 looks more impressive imo. Also 256 players online and cross platform (360/PS3) mp

Also Bad Company 2 will own both overall quality wise :P

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#55 sexxxyboy
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[QUOTE="sexxxyboy"][QUOTE="CDUB316"]

you know...alot of people can say that, but honestly, out of all the betas i've played...the full game was nowhere near different than the beta

beta to full game doesn't change gameplay mechanics at all....it's only fixes bugs and EXTREMELY minor AI issues sometimes, but in MAGs case there is no AI

so basically if the guy has played the beta, says it sucks...i really don't think his opinion will change after that, it rarely ever does when going from beta to full

CDUB316

he didnt say it sucked tho he said it puts all other fps to shame.

the original quote in which this started from was the guy who called MAG....Medicore Action Game (or something like that)

but the guy who actually played the beta has the valid opinion, not the smart mouth guy.
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#56 ermacness
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this game looks fantastic to me. I wish i was in the beta though, but i'll be getting this game in Jan of 2010 because i'm a sucker for a multiplayer game with huge amounts of people playing in one room. To me, it makes it feel like a real war and looking at previous 1st party sony titles to have gone this way with the multiplayer (KZ2, Resistance, R2, and Warhawk) i must sat that i have alot of faith in this game

btw, does anybody know how to get into the beta, and how long with the beta be available?

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#57 SionPT
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That name is so generic, and I hope teams are organized and use headsets.

mitu123

to be honest you dont need a mic to play nice, its all up to the devs, all you they have to come up is a way to comunicate well and order around, with a good rewarding system to do so

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#58 BoloTheGreat
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[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"]

That's only 255 more oppotunities to get stuck with a trolling, team killing, vehical hogging, teammate harrasing, mike shouting, weapon hording, control point obstructing, tea bagging, unskilled, overconfident n00b.

SionPT

going by yur logic, we would never play a multiplayer with more than 2 people.

A large scale game will only work if people are relied upon and onone is uesless extra baggage, if one team meneber is trolling out of 256 (high likely) then it may well damage the expericence of the whole team, infact it should damage the experience of the whole team if the game is balanced correctly. There is just so much more to go wrong, bigger =/= better.

As player you want your impact and value to be felt and this gets harder the more players you have. Balance also gets much harder and so does keeping a stable connection (lagg would be almost inevitable) and decent framrare (you really want 60 for an on-line game). The game seems to have morrorwind stlye myst and not a continous scaling drawn level (alla Crysis). All this adds up to me being skeptical at best.

Also some of the best multiplayer i have ever had has been 2v2. Bigger =/= Better.

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#59 CDUB316
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[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

[QUOTE="sexxxyboy"] he didnt say it sucked tho he said it puts all other fps to shame.sexxxyboy

the original quote in which this started from was the guy who called MAG....Medicore Action Game (or something like that)

but the guy who actually played the beta has the valid opinion, not the smart mouth guy.

i know...i didn't say he said it sucked

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#60 zbdyx
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[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

[QUOTE="zbdyx"][QUOTE="CDUB316"]

you know...alot of people can say that, but honestly, out of all the betas i've played...the full game was nowhere near different than the beta

beta to full game doesn't change gameplay mechanics at all....it's only fixes bugs and EXTREMELY minor AI issues sometimes, but in MAGs case there is no AI

so basically if the guy has played the beta, says it sucks...i really don't think his opinion will change after that, it rarely ever does when going from beta to full

Resistance 2 was exactly like it's beta.Mag is fun,and if you have friends on it it's even better.

yea, betas RARELY ever change much if anything at all

and i'm sure MAG will be exactly the same, and i'm sure uncharted 2's multi will be exactly the same

so if someone plays a beta, and they don't like it...95% of the time, they're not gonna like the full game either

i wish i got in the MAG beta though, i really wanna try it out

Qore always gives games and betas out.That's the only reason i subsribe lol
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#61 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="Richymisiak"][QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"] And the ones that don't have head sets have aids :|

that was dark.

Well I thought we were all making up stats regarding PSN, so I thought I might as well join in.

Internets r series bizinez. :roll:
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#62 CDUB316
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[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

[QUOTE="zbdyx"] Resistance 2 was exactly like it's beta.Mag is fun,and if you have friends on it it's even better.zbdyx

yea, betas RARELY ever change much if anything at all

and i'm sure MAG will be exactly the same, and i'm sure uncharted 2's multi will be exactly the same

so if someone plays a beta, and they don't like it...95% of the time, they're not gonna like the full game either

i wish i got in the MAG beta though, i really wanna try it out

Qore always gives games and betas out.That's the only reason i subsribe lol

they still giving them out?

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#63 zbdyx
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[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"]

[QUOTE="SionPT"]

[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"]

That's only 255 more oppotunities to get stuck with a trolling, team killing, vehical hogging, teammate harrasing, mike shouting, weapon hording, control point obstructing, tea bagging, unskilled, overconfident n00b.

going by yur logic, we would never play a multiplayer with more than 2 people.

A large scale game will only work if people are relied upon and onone is uesless extra baggage, if one team meneber is trolling out of 256 (high likely) then it may well damage the expericence of the whole team, infact it should damage the experience of the whole team if the game is balanced correctly. There is just so much more to go wrong, bigger =/= better.

As player you want your impact and value to be felt and this gets harder the more players you have. Balance also gets much harder and so does keeping a stable connection (lagg would be almost inevitable) and decent framrare (you really want 60 for an on-line game). The game seems to have morrorwind stlye myst and not a continous scaling drawn level (alla Crysis). All this adds up to me being skeptical at best.

Also some of the best multiplayer i have ever had has been 2v2. Bigger =/= Better.

Some people in the beta are stupid and just go out by themselves.Also sometimes you don't even get 256 player games.The most i think i played was like 150.I think,but your not always gonna get 256
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#64 zbdyx
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[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

[QUOTE="zbdyx"][QUOTE="CDUB316"]

yea, betas RARELY ever change much if anything at all

and i'm sure MAG will be exactly the same, and i'm sure uncharted 2's multi will be exactly the same

so if someone plays a beta, and they don't like it...95% of the time, they're not gonna like the full game either

i wish i got in the MAG beta though, i really wanna try it out

Qore always gives games and betas out.That's the only reason i subsribe lol

they still giving them out?

Not sure on that one
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#65 Verge_6
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Here is the thing about massive online FPS games; they only have the capacity to either be incredibly awesome, or laughably bad. There is no in-between here, and it is a VERY fine line between the two outcomes. Such large-scale combat requires communication, team work, and coordination. Otherwise, it turns into a glorified cluster ****.

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#66 Ze_Common_Cold
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[QUOTE="Mutt523"][QUOTE="Jandurin"] it should really ship with a headset maybe for an extra 10 or 20 dollars as a special editionvitriolboy

What could go wrong with hundreds of people talking over each other...

Unless it was like BF2 where you talk freely to your squad mates and your squad leader can talk to the army general to coordinate attacks. A true 256 player squad based game would be great - 256 players all run n' gunnin' wouldn't

That's exact;y what it is. They form squads and such, and squad leader can take to super squad leader blah blah blah. It's not as run- and gun as most people think.
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#67 Rikusaki
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is that what it stands for. what a stupid acronymJandurin
Not only does the name sound generic, the graphics are too.
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#68 Cow_tipping
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Richymisiak"]from the beta videos i've watched it looks incredibly boring because i didn't here a single person use a mic it was just wander around, get killed, wander some more empty space

it should really ship with a headset maybe for an extra 10 or 20 dollars as a special edition

not sure but i think i heard that they will offer a bundle with the sony headset for $60.00 i actually bought the socom bundle that came with the headset knowing i had no plans to play socom and i traded the game in fast lol
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#69 Mutt523
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]is that what it stands for. what a stupid acronymRikusaki
Not only does the name sound generic, the graphics are too.

As far as I understand if they made great graphics there would have been lag. So to make sure there was the least amount of lag possible the kept the graphics average.
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#70 ermacness
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[QUOTE="SionPT"]

[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"]

That's only 255 more oppotunities to get stuck with a trolling, team killing, vehical hogging, teammate harrasing, mike shouting, weapon hording, control point obstructing, tea bagging, unskilled, overconfident n00b.

BoloTheGreat

going by yur logic, we would never play a multiplayer with more than 2 people.

A large scale game will only work if people are relied upon and onone is uesless extra baggage, if one team meneber is trolling out of 256 (high likely) then it may well damage the expericence of the whole team, infact it should damage the experience of the whole team if the game is balanced correctly. There is just so much more to go wrong, bigger =/= better.

As player you want your impact and value to be felt and this gets harder the more players you have. Balance also gets much harder and so does keeping a stable connection (lagg would be almost inevitable) and decent framrare (you really want 60 for an on-line game). The game seems to have morrorwind stlye myst and not a continous scaling drawn level (alla Crysis). All this adds up to me being skeptical at best.

Also some of the best multiplayer i have ever had has been 2v2. Bigger =/= Better.

well it all depends. If game A have only 4vs4 with spotted lag, and game B have 128vs128 with virtually no lag, that "bigger" head count does factor in with quality. If it works on par or better, than bigger does make a difference

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#71 Cow_tipping
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meh.average.game. That's my opinion on it anyway, looks really dull, and 256 players looks pointless.bobbetybob
i guess ur still in last gen were playing 16 player halo matches is huge
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#72 BoloTheGreat
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[QUOTE="zbdyx"][QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"]

[QUOTE="SionPT"]

going by yur logic, we would never play a multiplayer with more than 2 people.

A large scale game will only work if people are relied upon and onone is uesless extra baggage, if one team meneber is trolling out of 256 (high likely) then it may well damage the expericence of the whole team, infact it should damage the experience of the whole team if the game is balanced correctly. There is just so much more to go wrong, bigger =/= better.

As player you want your impact and value to be felt and this gets harder the more players you have. Balance also gets much harder and so does keeping a stable connection (lagg would be almost inevitable) and decent framrare (you really want 60 for an on-line game). The game seems to have morrorwind stlye myst and not a continous scaling drawn level (alla Crysis). All this adds up to me being skeptical at best.

Also some of the best multiplayer i have ever had has been 2v2. Bigger =/= Better.

Some people in the beta are stupid and just go out by themselves.Also sometimes you don't even get 256 player games.The most i think i played was like 150.I think,but your not always gonna get 256

Does it play worse the less people you have?
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#73 Wii_Gamer_277
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[QUOTE="bobbetybob"]meh.average.game. That's my opinion on it anyway, looks really dull, and 256 players looks pointless.Cow_tipping
i guess ur still in last gen were playing 16 player halo matches is huge

16 players in MP is lst gen now :?
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[QUOTE="Cow_tipping"][QUOTE="bobbetybob"]meh.average.game. That's my opinion on it anyway, looks really dull, and 256 players looks pointless.Wii_Gamer_277
i guess ur still in last gen were playing 16 player halo matches is huge

16 players in MP is lst gen now :?

considering ps3 gamers are used to at least 60 now, i would say pretty much
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#75 Cow_tipping
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[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

[QUOTE="Mutt523"] Still it's only a beta. You can't say it's going to suck or be good, because of a beta. Since the game isn't completed yet.zbdyx

you know...alot of people can say that, but honestly, out of all the betas i've played...the full game was nowhere near different than the beta

beta to full game doesn't change gameplay mechanics at all....it's only fixes bugs and EXTREMELY minor AI issues sometimes, but in MAGs case there is no AI

so basically if the guy has played the beta, says it sucks...i really don't think his opinion will change after that, it rarely ever does when going from beta to full

Resistance 2 was exactly like it's beta.Mag is fun,and if you have friends on it it's even better.

i was in the resistance 2 public beta and because i liked the beta i got the game when it came out if i had not played the beta i prob would have never gotten resistance 2
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#76 zbdyx
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[QUOTE="zbdyx"][QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"]

A large scale game will only work if people are relied upon and onone is uesless extra baggage, if one team meneber is trolling out of 256 (high likely) then it may well damage the expericence of the whole team, infact it should damage the experience of the whole team if the game is balanced correctly. There is just so much more to go wrong, bigger =/= better.

As player you want your impact and value to be felt and this gets harder the more players you have. Balance also gets much harder and so does keeping a stable connection (lagg would be almost inevitable) and decent framrare (you really want 60 for an on-line game). The game seems to have morrorwind stlye myst and not a continous scaling drawn level (alla Crysis). All this adds up to me being skeptical at best.

Also some of the best multiplayer i have ever had has been 2v2. Bigger =/= Better.

BoloTheGreat

Some people in the beta are stupid and just go out by themselves.Also sometimes you don't even get 256 player games.The most i think i played was like 150.I think,but your not always gonna get 256

Does it play worse the less people you have?

Not really.When the beta was first out the servers where soooooooo f'ed up,but as the beta went on it got alot better.I'm not gonna say the game doesn't lag sometimes,but the times it does it's only minor.No more than most FPS or TPS online games.Mag isn't the Jesus Christ of FPS's,but it's a fairly good one.

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[QUOTE="sexxxyboy"][QUOTE="Wii_Gamer_277"][QUOTE="Cow_tipping"] i guess ur still in last gen were playing 16 player halo matches is huge

16 players in MP is lst gen now :?

considering ps3 gamers are used to at least 60 now, i would say pretty much

is R2 not the only game to feature this. so would that make KZ2 last gen then.
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#78 Rikusaki
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[QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]is that what it stands for. what a stupid acronymMutt523
Not only does the name sound generic, the graphics are too.

As far as I understand if they made great graphics there would have been lag. So to make sure there was the least amount of lag possible the kept the graphics average.

I don't care what they had to do technically. The graphics have no artistic style at all.
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#79 Mutt523
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[QUOTE="Mutt523"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"]Not only does the name sound generic, the graphics are too. Rikusaki
As far as I understand if they made great graphics there would have been lag. So to make sure there was the least amount of lag possible the kept the graphics average.

I don't care what they had to do technically. The graphics have no artistic style at all.

You want better graphics even though it would have added lag?
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[QUOTE="Mutt523"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"]Not only does the name sound generic, the graphics are too. Rikusaki
As far as I understand if they made great graphics there would have been lag. So to make sure there was the least amount of lag possible the kept the graphics average.

I don't care what they had to do technically. The graphics have no artistic style at all.

They try to just cobble stuff together, the 'rebles' type faction are obviiusly modeled on STALKERS, they try to couple that with ultra SciFi space marines and regular slightly fufutristic military all put in a jumble of SciFi and attempted 'Gritty' enviroemnts. it is balnd and it does not gel at all. Aslo what is their take on FPS? From what i have seen it looks pretty danrn generic in that aspect too.
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#81 shad0w70
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Actually Dust 514 looks more impressive imo. Also 256 players online and cross platform (360/PS3) mp

Also Bad Company 2 will own both overall quality wise :P

I agree that DUST 514 is more impressive but we wont see it for at least another 2-3 years so MAG will fill that gap perfectly. I disagree with your point that Bad Company 2 will own DUST 514 in any way shape or form though, especially in the area of quality. Just click the link in my sig to read & see everything that's DUST 514. ;)
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#82 Cow_tipping
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[QUOTE="sexxxyboy"][QUOTE="Wii_Gamer_277"] 16 players in MP is lst gen now :?doobie1975
considering ps3 gamers are used to at least 60 now, i would say pretty much

is R2 not the only game to feature this. so would that make KZ2 last gen then.

i thought last gen was up to 16 players while this gen resistance 2 is upto 60 players and killzone 2 is up to 32 players while on average most games this gen are still only up to 16 players (cough halo 3)
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#83 RTUUMM
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Old news. Who cares about that stuff if the gameplay sucks?Mutt523
This. I have the beta and the gameplay sucks, I was really disapointed.
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#84 93soccer
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is that what it stands for. what a stupid acronymJandurin
lol I know right. Also, 256 players just spells N-O-T O-R-G-N-I-A-Z-E-D
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#85 Adrian_Cloud
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I remember people thinking KZ2 was going to mop MW online, and look at it now. Even Resistance 2 with 60 people online can't touch MW. Halo and Gears are mere after thoughts compared to most online shooters. MW2 is going to be amazing, and i don't really like FPS games that much. MAG should be delayed till Treyarch makes the next COD.
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#86 SPYDER0416
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This game from what little I've gleaned, is amazing. Graphics look pretty lame, but what do you expect for a game with 256 people and 70+ guns with different gear and 3 factions? Me, I'm getting it day one, even the beta is sick I can't imagine the full game, this really could not be possible without Zipper and the PS3, not trying to be a fanboy its just that MicroSoft would never take a chance with this sort of thing, much less give a company full freedom over servers.

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#87 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

That name is so generic, and I hope teams are organized and use headsets.

CDUB316

just about every FPS this gen is generic

FPS has been done to death

Yes, but I'm talking about he name of the game. It basically describes the entire game.
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[QUOTE="DJ_Lae"]Two hundred and fifty six players strikes me as the exact opposite of organized.doobie1975
quick tip: two hundred and fifty six can also be written as 256 to save time.

quick tip: 256 can also be written as two hundred and fifty six to emphasize the number/amount. Lets be real, is that all u could pick on from his post?
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#89 pyromaniac223
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It's a shame that this game is going to be lauded for it's "battlefield realism" and "authentic war feeling" and crap like that.
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#90 ultraking
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is that what it stands for. what a stupid acronymJandurin
i agree.. what an awful name for a game.. it will flop too 6.5

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#91 IlovemyAbs
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Im heating the popcorn up once again. Gosh I'm having an awesome time here :D

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#92 iRezarektah
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Richymisiak"]from the beta videos i've watched it looks incredibly boring because i didn't here a single person use a mic it was just wander around, get killed, wander some more empty spaceMutt523
it should really ship with a headset maybe for an extra 10 or 20 dollars as a special edition

What could go wrong with hundreds of people talking over each other...

..I guess it's a good thing there's push to talk.

..I also guess it's a good thing squads are broken up into 8. Meaning you only communicate with your 7 squad mates while the captain or whatever of your squad talks to other captains, so on and so forth.

It's a chain of command and if you ignorant children would actually bother doing some research on this game you would know it's not 128 v 128. This game isn't just about numbers.

I don't know what's worse. The idiots who think XBL gold is just party chat and cross game invites or the MAG haters who think it's just your generic FPS with 256 players.

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#93 iRezarektah
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[QUOTE="Mutt523"]Old news. Who cares about that stuff if the gameplay sucks?RTUUMM
This. I have the beta and the gameplay sucks, I was really disapointed.

..yet you gave Resistance 2 a 9.0 and Battlefield 1943 an 8.5

Sorry this game actually takes skill, I understand it must be a tough thing to deal with.

Lulz @ the irony. Everyone crying about how casuals are destroying their single player games because there is no depth and it's all noobafied and yet these same people support games like Resistance 2, COD, Gears of War. All games that take no skill and are contributing to the death of multiplayer. Why make a game that takes skill? Look at COD, it sells a ton and a blind kid could go 30-0.