Master Chief is Changing For Halo 4

[QUOTE="slvrraven9"][QUOTE="walkingdream"]I read that and honestly 90% of your complaints were opinions. You do realise the reason they had to get cortana to the POA is so they could get to Halo? It was a calculated jump. Also Malcolm McDowell is a good actor. What part did he play in KZ3? (i own KZ2 but not 3). eboyishere

to me kz2 had a better atmosphere then kz3...kz3 technical areas are a little better, but gameplay wise feels watered down..tho if your new to the series then kz3 will work..but most of the kz core crowd has migrated back to kz2

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arbitor365

Don't you just love how Halo (like really no other video game out there) can bring out these inadequacies(?) of any game almost regardless of genre. It does the same for people as well...of is this an all the time thing for you?

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Though I think I know what it is Keith, you are just upset that you weren't in Reach so that is why you will continue this campaign against the Halo.
[+1 for whoever gets the reference in the previous sentance]

[QUOTE="walkingdream"]I read that and honestly 90% of your complaints were opinions. You do realise the reason they had to get cortana to the POA is so they could get to Halo? It was a calculated jump. Also Malcolm McDowell is a good actor. What part did he play in KZ3? (i own KZ2 but not 3). arbitor365

I love the part with malcolm mcdowell at 2:00-3:00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3gVRe5KcxI

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lets compare halo reach and killzone 3. look at the first set of cutscenes side by side

first 14 minutes of killzone 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9ufbjTmrWY

first 8 minutes of halo reach http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ3gobdOFH0

at 3:38-5:00 killzone 3 establishes everything you need to know about rico, sev, and narville. rico is headstrong and reckless and insubordinate. narville is thrust into very difficult situation as a leader (stuck on an enemy planet with little chance of survival). sev is just trying to do the right things, but is very uncertain about how they will get out of this mess. now, are all three of those character descriptions incredibly deep? no. but they are, in fact, character descriptions. the characters have struggles and more importantly you can see them emotionally reacting to them. they have a basic semblance of character.

now look at 00:58-3:15 in reach. it only establishes why the spartans are on reach and that noble six has an "interesting record." none of the characters display human features. nothing is said or shown to give them any defining character features. throughout the rest of the video, there really is no story at all. stuff is happening (not alot though), but there are no real characters and thus no tension or reason to care. it kinda reminds me of "the phantom menace." it is so sterile and devoid of emotion and legitimate characters. I know spartans are like any other special ops team and that they have military composure, but that is no excuse for poor characterization.

see theres your fail right there. youact likeyou read the book but then you say the spartans are just like any other special ops team? if you understood you would CLEARLY understand why they display such courage, poise and military bearing. UNLIKE rico, and all the other smartmouth soldiers of KZ's story. also you expect the story to be foreworded in the first few minutes of the game...only means that the game is meant to be played and enjoyed with everything shown on the waters surface. Nothing left to be understood or meant to be "deep" in any kind of way. while i didnt play KZ3 yet, i didnt look at the video so ill reserve my opinions till i play the game. i can only comment on KZ2...

Why does Master Cheif need a complex character for Halo's story to be considered good? Plenty of games had good stories with mute characters like Half Life 2.

[QUOTE="xhawk27"] Last night I beat Killzone 3. I have to say it's a pretty good game. I do have some problems though first what's up with the comic fast scenes of the game. Second the story is complete crap. Anyone that bashes Halo stories should not even mention Killzone 3. arbitor365

http://www.gamespot.com/users/arbitor365/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=m-100-25935734&tag=all-about%3Bblog1

here is my defense of KZ3's storyline

Makes you wonder what else they changed. I think we all knew this day was coming that Microsoft would try to carry on the Halo series without Bungie and will probably suck. This coming from a huge Halo fan.

demonic_85

You dont even know what there changing and your already saying it sucks:?

"Some of us noticed the changes to Master Chief's Spartan armour in the E3 reveal trailer – in particular, the gap in the armour around the groin that was previously covered by a shiny green metal plate."

I just wanna know who was looking at the Master chiefs groin :lol:

...come to think of it I really don't :P

So much for finishing the fight.

What the....There's no armour over his crotch!Now everyone will just kick him down there!

This will totally change the MP.I bet you will be able to kill others with one melee now.

So much for finishing the fight.

BigBoss154

So they're giving him a actual personality?

I don't believe it at all.

Armour upgrades and Crysis like modes, now that sounds far more realistic.

basically, he's going to be more edgy? what else would they do?

lowkey254

Judging from the trailer he does'nt seem edgy at all.... It's just a short clip of MC being revived and taking immediate action in a no-nonsense manner.

The fact that he has an actual name has somehow eluded me up to now, however :?

Edit: Honestly, even being an MS hater, I liked it.

they had their chance to flesh out his backstory and make him an interesting character with halo reach, but instead we followed the story of a bunch of forgetable, one dimensional, wanna-be spartans that bit the dust quicker and for more pointless reasons than kenny from south park. what a waste of a prequel that was

arbitor365

The novels go into massive detail abvout his life story.

[QUOTE="Rage010101"]

master chief had personality? thats news to me

AncientDozer

Maybe it takes place several years after Halo 3?

So is he actually acquiring a personality after all?

[spoiler] :P [/spoiler]

[QUOTE="arbitor365"]

they had their chance to flesh out his backstory and make him an interesting character with halo reach, but instead we followed the story of a bunch of forgetable, one dimensional, wanna-be spartans that bit the dust quicker and for more pointless reasons than kenny from south park. what a waste of a prequel that was

MobilechicaneX

The novels go into massive detail abvout his life story.

I know. I read "fall of reach." I thought the origin story of master cheif was intriguing and it made the halo universe feel alot richer. it would have easily transcended into a great game. but instead of doing that, and maybe even building upon it, bungie ignored everything that made the book interesting and compelling. the campaign was entirely phoned in.

[QUOTE="HaloPimp978"]

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/117/1178431p1.html

super600

It worksnow. So MC's personality and armor are changing for good?

What personality? And Master Chief's armor looked like he came from a dirt bike race.. Not a sci-fi.

[QUOTE="MobilechicaneX"]

[QUOTE="arbitor365"]

they had their chance to flesh out his backstory and make him an interesting character with halo reach, but instead we followed the story of a bunch of forgetable, one dimensional, wanna-be spartans that bit the dust quicker and for more pointless reasons than kenny from south park. what a waste of a prequel that was

arbitor365

The novels go into massive detail abvout his life story.

I know. I read "fall of reach." I thought the origin story of master cheif was intriguing and it made the halo universe feel alot richer. it would have easily transcended into a great game. but instead of doing that, and maybe even building upon it, bungie ignored everything that made the book interesting and compelling. the campaign was entirely phoned in.

No more phoned in than Killzone 3's. The Halo universe as described in the books is best experienced in the books. There's alot of exposition and description that would get lost within the context of an interactive shooter.

Let the books be the books and let the games be the games and let the cartoons be the cartoons. They're different media with different strengths that make each good.

So anyway, back on-topic....

I figure the MC would have limited resources being cut off from humanity. He and Cortana may need to make modifications to his armor and weapons along the way just to keep his equipment functioning. In this way, the fiction would lend itself very will to game mechanics we may not have seen yet in a Halo game.

Then there's Cortana herself... she's past her shelf life so I'm interested to see how 343 treats that bit of fiction.

Also interested to see what the heck that big ship is. Presumably Forerunner? New alien race altogether?

Since they've played with playable flashbacks in ODST, maybe people will be more receptive of the MC flashing back to his earlier missions, perhaps his training on Reach.

What the....There's no armour over his crotch!Now everyone will just kick him down there!

This will totally change the MP.I bet you will be able to kill others with one melee now.

call_of_duty_10

On top of that, crotch shots would be the new head shots :P.

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

So much for finishing the fight.

walkingdream

I was under the impression that Master Cheif was finished at the end of Halo 3.

[QUOTE="walkingdream"][QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

So much for finishing the fight.

BigBoss154

I was under the impression that Master Cheif was finished at the end of Halo 3.

Sounds like someone didn't beat the game on legendary :P

I've...Noticed No Change. :|

*trite remark about Master Chief not having a personality in the first place*

Wasn't that just hilaaaaaaaaaaarious, guys!?? Bet no one has said that one yet!

Good Post Bro.

*trite remark about Master Chief not having a personality in the first place*

Wasn't that just hilaaaaaaaaaaarious, guys!?? Bet no one has said that one yet!

jjccjj92

Hahaha

*trite remark about Master Chief not having a personality in the first place*

Wasn't that just hilaaaaaaaaaaarious, guys!?? Bet no one has said that one yet!

jjccjj92

[QUOTE="MobilechicaneX"]

[QUOTE="arbitor365"]

they had their chance to flesh out his backstory and make him an interesting character with halo reach, but instead we followed the story of a bunch of forgetable, one dimensional, wanna-be spartans that bit the dust quicker and for more pointless reasons than kenny from south park. what a waste of a prequel that was

The novels go into massive detail abvout his life story.

I know. I read "fall of reach." I thought the origin story of master cheif was intriguing and it made the halo universe feel alot richer. it would have easily transcended into a great game. but instead of doing that, and maybe even building upon it, bungie ignored everything that made the book interesting and compelling. the campaign was entirely phoned in.

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

[QUOTE="walkingdream"] We did finish the fight... We have a new threat now :P Kickinurass

I was under the impression that Master Cheif was finished at the end of Halo 3.

Sounds like someone didn't beat the game on legendary :P

Damn, I totally forgot about that. I never finished it, but I remember watchingthat video years ago.

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

We did finish the fight... We have a new threat now :P walkingdream

I was under the impression that Master Cheif was finished at the end of Halo 3.

Sounds like someone didn't beat the game on legendary :P

[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

I was under the impression that Master Cheif was finished at the end of Halo 3.

slvrraven9

Sounds like someone didn't beat the game on legendary :P

I'd be so down for that, but I'm in Italy right now. My 360's way across the ocean. Right now I'm strictly playing Terraria and Pokemon White :(

milkage

cant wait for halo 5,6,7 and all the other side projects

How can there be a Halo 4? Wasn't the story brought to a close? That's like making a MGS5 or a GOW4 - it just doesn't make sense.

Master_ShakeXXX

How can there be a Halo 4? Wasn't the story brought to a close? That's like making a MGS5 or a GOW4 - it just doesn't make sense.

Master_ShakeXXX

[QUOTE="slvrraven9"][QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

Sounds like someone didn't beat the game on legendary :P

I'd be so down for that, but I'm in Italy right now. My 360's way across the ocean. Right now I'm strictly playing Terraria and Pokemon White :(

[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

[QUOTE="slvrraven9"] lol now i gotta go back and play H3 so i can play as the chief! lol...that was a damn good game! gotta get on xbl and get a crew together so we can smash everything on legendary. That ending is still touching!slvrraven9

I'd be so down for that, but I'm in Italy right now. My 360's way across the ocean. Right now I'm strictly playing Terraria and Pokemon White :(

Bout another month. Program ends at the end of July, and then I head back to the States to relax before senior year. But yeah, friend me and we'll make sure this happens. Can't ever have too much Halo 8)

Honestly though, time's going by too quickly over here. Which i had done the 4 month semester program instead of the 2 month one. Don't really want to leave - I'm headed to Switzerland next week to check out the amazing Therme Vals hotel. And there are tons of other places I'd love to visit before its all said and done.

[QUOTE="slvrraven9"][QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

I'd be so down for that, but I'm in Italy right now. My 360's way across the ocean. Right now I'm strictly playing Terraria and Pokemon White :(

Bout another month. Program ends at the end of July, and then I head back to the States to relax before senior year. But yeah, friend me and we'll make sure this happens. Can't ever have too much Halo 8)

Honestly though, time's going by too quickly over here. Which i had done the 4 month semester program instead of the 2 month one. Don't really want to leave - I'm headed to Switzerland next week to check out the amazing Therme Vals hotel. And there are tons of other places I'd love to visit before its all said and done.