Maybe we should let up on Activision

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#51 enterawesome
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To be honest, I find that Activision threads such as this really show how spoiled gamers as a whole really are. Honestly, you give them the whole world and they're still pissed off because they didn't get the moon too.mo0ksi

...This post needs some 'splainin'.

There are some gamers who act as if the developers must appease to their standards, otherwise you get boycott attempts (L4D2), frequent bashing, etc. As if they owed gamers a favor. Not only that, but they're also hypocritical to a sense. You have a group of gamers pissed off at a company for milking their franchises, then you get the exact same group criticizing another developer for taking too long with releasing their games.

Starcraft 2 is case in point. Even though Blizzard said that they're making an extensive campaign for each race per chapter, they still get the criticism for both milking and taking too long with the game.

Then there's also something like the L4D DLC on PC, in which despite it being free, there will be a group of gamers pissing and moaning about it and go as far as to say that Valve (or whatever company) is giving crappy support, despite the fact that you're getting FREE CONTENT.

Sure, you don't have to like everything developers throw at you, but complaining about every single little thing that bothers you doesn't help you either.

Those are othre games and other game companies. Gamers are whiney, yes. But you're a fool if you can't tell Activision is using disgusting tactics and milking their games more than any other franchise. 6 Guitar Hero related games this year and 2 spin-offs? Is that not ridiculous? I could ask my dad (he used to be a buisness software programmer, he was witness to the best and worst in the buisness world) if what Activision is doing is beyond reason, and he'd certainly say yes.
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#52 enterawesome
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[QUOTE="enterawesome"]There is no denying the quality behind Blizzard's projects, I totally realize that. But 3 parts sold at $50? C'mon! IMO, Blizzard should just break off from Activision. I would be very happy, and I'm sure many PC gamers would also feel that way.MischiefmAker

Are they all officially priced at $50? (Not trying to be rude, just seeing if it's true (and you have a source), and if it's not official, just suggesting you calm down for the moment, there will be plenty of time for anger later. :D).

[QUOTE="mo0ksi"]There are some gamers who act as if the developers must appease to their standards, otherwise you get boycott attempts (L4D2), frequent bashing, etc. As if they owed gamers a favor. Not only that, but they're also hypocritical to a sense. You have a group of gamers pissed off at a company for milking their franchises, then you get the exact same group criticizing another developer for taking too long with releasing their games.

Starcraft 2 is case in point. Even though Blizzard said that they're making an extensive campaign for each race per chapter, they still get the criticism for both milking and taking too long with the game.

Then there's also something like the L4D DLC on PC, in which despite it being free, there will be a group of gamers pissing and moaning about it and go as far as to say that Valve (or whatever company) is giving crappy support, despite the fact that you're getting FREE CONTENT.

Sure, you don't have to like everything developers throw at you, but complaining about every single little thing that bothers you doesn't help you either.

Thank you, and well said.

I'm not being angry. :? Just sayin'. Actually, I believe Game Informer stated they cost $60.
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#53 mo0ksi
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[QUOTE="enterawesome"][QUOTE="mo0ksi"]

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...This post needs some 'splainin'.

There are some gamers who act as if the developers must appease to their standards, otherwise you get boycott attempts (L4D2), frequent bashing, etc. As if they owed gamers a favor. Not only that, but they're also hypocritical to a sense. You have a group of gamers pissed off at a company for milking their franchises, then you get the exact same group criticizing another developer for taking too long with releasing their games.

Starcraft 2 is case in point. Even though Blizzard said that they're making an extensive campaign for each race per chapter, they still get the criticism for both milking and taking too long with the game.

Then there's also something like the L4D DLC on PC, in which despite it being free, there will be a group of gamers pissing and moaning about it and go as far as to say that Valve (or whatever company) is giving crappy support, despite the fact that you're getting FREE CONTENT.

Sure, you don't have to like everything developers throw at you, but complaining about every single little thing that bothers you doesn't help you either.

Those are othre games and other game companies. Gamers are whiney, yes. But you're a fool if you can't tell Activision is using disgusting tactics and milking their games more than any other franchise. 6 Guitar Hero related games this year and 2 spin-offs? Is that not ridiculous? I could ask my dad (he used to be a buisness software programmer, he was witness to the best and worst in the buisness world) if what Activision is doing is beyond reason, and he'd certainly say yes.

They aren't breaking any laws, nor are they breaking any rules. Acti is definitely using some questionable methods in generating revenue. But essentially the company is doing a fantastic job at keeping the ball rolling whether you like it or not. I completely understand why people are angry, but at the end none of this matters to the casual audience, which is basically Activision's pot of gold.
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#54 heretrix
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Anybody that makes the internet moan and cry as much as Bobby K. does is aces in my book.As for Actiblizzards games, meh. I buy the ones that I like and ignore the ones that I don't.

I love the rush to make anybody a villain that you don't agree with. There is no grey areas and everybody has to be agreeable to your tastes or they are EVIL.And businesses? They should never want to make money off of you, that's just BAD..

It kind of proves some of us spend a bit too much time in the Matrix.

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#55 nofriekinlemons
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quit trying to sugar coat them their money hungry pigs at least other companies try to look like the care for the gamer

MischiefmAker

I find this quote interesting, as it seems you're saying you prefer companies to lie to you instead of being honest. :P

But yeah, I'm with the crowd that says Activision's actions are more important than what their boss says, and the two attempted murders of Brutal Legend and Double Fine are unforgivable (to me... Though, I admit, my resolve will break when Starcraft 2 comes out. :(

we all know companies focus on sales, but if the company starts alking about the gamer that makes us feel better about the programms and maybe make them try harder to get our attention over the competitions.

but still their first thought is always sales

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#56 enterawesome
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[QUOTE="enterawesome"][QUOTE="mo0ksi"] There are some gamers who act as if the developers must appease to their standards, otherwise you get boycott attempts (L4D2), frequent bashing, etc. As if they owed gamers a favor. Not only that, but they're also hypocritical to a sense. You have a group of gamers pissed off at a company for milking their franchises, then you get the exact same group criticizing another developer for taking too long with releasing their games.

Starcraft 2 is case in point. Even though Blizzard said that they're making an extensive campaign for each race per chapter, they still get the criticism for both milking and taking too long with the game.

Then there's also something like the L4D DLC on PC, in which despite it being free, there will be a group of gamers pissing and moaning about it and go as far as to say that Valve (or whatever company) is giving crappy support, despite the fact that you're getting FREE CONTENT.

Sure, you don't have to like everything developers throw at you, but complaining about every single little thing that bothers you doesn't help you either.

mo0ksi

Those are othre games and other game companies. Gamers are whiney, yes. But you're a fool if you can't tell Activision is using disgusting tactics and milking their games more than any other franchise. 6 Guitar Hero related games this year and 2 spin-offs? Is that not ridiculous? I could ask my dad (he used to be a buisness software programmer, he was witness to the best and worst in the buisness world) if what Activision is doing is beyond reason, and he'd certainly say yes.

They aren't breaking any laws, nor are they breaking any rules. Acti is definitely using some questionable methods in generating revenue. But essentially the company is doing a fantastic job at keeping the ball rolling whether you like it or not. I completely understand why people are angry, but at the end none of this matters to the casual audience, which is basically Activision's pot of gold.

Nobody said they aren't fantastic at making lots of money. What they are doing is blinding this "casual" audience, as you put it, from other games of potentially higher quality, and don't require monthly rehashes. I can't speak for the masses, though I will tell you that a lot of people on this forum prefer games like TF2, Half-Life, Counter Strike, and Rainbow Six to Activision's shooters, and many also think Rock Band > Guitar Hero.

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#57 Crazyguy105
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I still despise him and his company.

I highly regret buying GH:WT.

As of such I'm not buying anymore GH games because I don't trust them. The last GH game I got was Metallica and that was okay.

I'm not going to touch Smash Hits or GH5 though.

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#58 enterawesome
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Anybody that makes the internet moan and cry as much as Bobby K. does is aces in my book.As for Actiblizzards games, meh. I buy the ones that I like and ignore the ones that I don't.

I love the rush to make anybody a villain that you don't agree with. There is no grey areas and everybody has to be agreeable to your tastes or they are EVIL.And businesses? They should never want to make money off of you, that's just BAD..

It kind of proves some of us spend a bit too much time in the Matrix.

I should have taken the red pill...
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#59 Z0MBIES
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Too bad he's still a dick. Maybe he's good at business, but a dick nonetheless.

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#60 MischiefmAker
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we all know companies focus on sales, but if the company starts alking about the gamer that makes us feel better about the programms and maybe make them try harder to get our attention over the competitions.

but still their first thought is always sales

nofriekinlemons

Oh, I know what he meant, it's just kinda funny in a way. :P

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#61 PatchMaster
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Kotick is a scumbag, but it really doesn't matter. I'm still gonna buy the games I like and pass on the ones I don't. That is, as long as games don't start costing $100 like Kotick thinks they should. :|