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#101 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="Santesyu"][QUOTE="Vader993"]

im not surpised,its a fps for god sake

Helghast_Merc

The game is not 4 hours, its from 8 to 10 hrs the dude who beat it in 4 hours was rushing through the game. http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/2964421.page

I figured something was up when I heard that it was 4 hours long.

I've learned to NEVER trust those kind of claims. Each and everytime I've played the title in question, I wind up having an experience that's 3-4 hours longer that they stated. Forget 'em, I say.

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#102 Phazevariance
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rental or used only

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#103 Master_ShakeXXX
Member since 2008 • 13361 Posts

Not much shorter than your typical shallow COD game. COD fans should eat this right up.

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#104 slvrraven9
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the game looked good, i mean it does have that been there done that kinda feel and i also see that they added the bullets flying from behind closed windows and steel grates in to the game. thats always one thing that i hated...so that on top of a 4 hour nothing special campaign = bargin bin buy.
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#105 C-Lee
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I lol'd. Game looks terrible, in my opinion.
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#106 Pug-Nasty
Member since 2009 • 8508 Posts

Being 4 hours is only a problem if it's a fun game. Otherwise, the game being bad will be the problem. MW2 supposedly has a pretty short campaign, but I wouldn't know 'cause I can't force myself to complete it.

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#107 tomarlyn
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Thats terrible, I forgave COD4 for being 6 hours but thats just terrible.
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#108 deactivated-5c79c3cfce222
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[QUOTE="Vader993"]

im not surpised,its a fps for god sake

Santesyu

The game is not 4 hours, its from 8 to 10 hrs the dude who beat it in 4 hours was rushing through the game. http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/2964421.page

Why? Because a bunch of fans who haven't played the game and are regurgitating PR lines say so? It's a cinematic action shooter (i.e. scripted and linear). There's not a whole lot of room for smelling the roses.

Did anyone even bother to watch the linked videos? Apparently the TC didn't because there are only two and each are two hours long, but the latter doesn't show the end of the game, the guy just hasn't uploaded the next video. Its not 4 hours long guys, you've been mislead.

jamejame


EA asked him to remove the ending.

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#110 deactivated-5c79c3cfce222
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[QUOTE="McStrongfast"]But 4 hours is simply too short, doesn't matter if it's amazing.foxhound_fox


What if you can replay it 10 times? And enjoy it every time?

This is my problem with gamers these days... they expect their games to be more of a time-sink than actually an enjoyable experience. Games like Super Mario Bros. on the NES can be beaten in 5 minutes... and yet people hail that game as one of the greatest ever made? The fact is, people will find what they want to find fun, and if it isn't fun, it won't matter how long it is.

I personally will take a shorter, amazing game with more replay value than a longer, boring game with no replay value any day. Granted, I don't think Medal of Honor will have what it takes to even get me to spend time with it, let alone spend money on it, but the principal still stands here. What does length matter if the game itself isn't enjoyable? Is being able to waste time that important to you? Why are you not paying $15 a month for WoW, the best time-sink to ever be created?

It's a 4 hour long game built around tight scripting. Why would I want to replay the exact same thing I just played through? I have never been one for replaying games on a higher difficulty setting. And from what I've heard, "Hard" in this game does not provide much of a challenge or difference anyway.

Obviously I do not enjoy spending time playing games that are not enjoyable. What are you even talking about?

Everyone has their threshold for the value they expect out of their $60. Both quality and length are factors. 4 hours of length is below my threshold. I noticed when I finished Kane & Lynch 2. Good thing I didn't pay full price for it, that would've been a mistake.

EDIT
Another guy moderately impressed by the campaign.

It sounds like it does not have a VIP pass the same awesome way BC2 did (making maps inaccessible, later making them available as "free" updates), but there is an online pass.

"PLEASE NOTE: IN ORDER TO PLAY MULTIPLAYER ON CONSOLES YOU MUST EITHER BUY THE GAME NEW OR PAY FOR A MULTIPLAYER VIP CODE TO ACCESS THE MODE."EA

So that's awesome in an all new way.

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#111 mD-
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I don't understand how people can tolerate these games with terrible gun play. Sometime I just feel that it's because gaming popularity has been growing and call of duty is the first shooter people really got to, they hold every game to that standard. That standard is fast almost arcade like gameplay where NO guns have any recoil. What the hell is this? The N64 era? Guns has no recoil in games like Perfect Dark and Golden Eye, but we should be past that. But, general gamers like this because it's so easy for them to spray entire clips on people. This trend of simplifying the gun play and making easy and less realistic is really annoying me now.

All I see when I see Medal of Honor is them to try to get these same standards with a twist of their own when it comes down to the game play.

I primarily blame MW2 for pushing this trend. I have people that brag to me that they dominate at that game in deathmatch which is completely meaningless because they are terrible at other shooters that require skill in aiming. One of my roommates even argued with me that Call of Duty: MW2 was very realistic.

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#112 enterawesome
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Sounds like garbage. I guess the guy didn't play the last two missions though, so it's like, 4 and a half hours long? :lol:
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#113 The_Gaming_Baby
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Most people won't even touch the single player anyway. I on the other hand would have been verydisappointedif I had planned on getting the game.

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#114 foxhound_fox
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Yeah you can beat SMB in 5 minutes ... if you speedrun. Great comparison there :roll:you won't have to speedrun to beat this game in 4 hours.

What linear shooter is enjoyable to play 10 times over ? Really

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I can casually make it through SMB in 15 minutes. I've played the game innumerable times... and the route really isn't that hard to find either.

I've probably played Doom II: Hell on Earth through at least 40 times in my life since it came out. People find what they find enjoyable because that's what they find enjoyable. I won't touch this new MoH with a 10 foot pole... but there are some people out there who may love it, and feel that they can play it through an innumerable amount of times. We may not, but that doesn't rule it out. Its length means nothing to those who enjoy it, and/or find it has decent to good replay value.

The only reason people seem to care about length these days is because they are looking for a time-sink, not an enjoyable experience. I was happy with the $70 I spent on the 5.5 hours I went through Mirror's Edge the first time with... all the other time I spent with it was a bonus.

This is my problem with the gamers these days, they don't seem to recognize the idea "different strokes for different folks." I've played some of the same, highly-scripted things over and over and over again because I want to RE-EXPERIENCE them... and sometimes I notice new things that make it more enjoyable than the first time through (see: Shadow of the Colossus). Just because this game is only 4 hours long doesn't make it an inherently bad game. People have their priorities all messed up.

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#115 Warhawk_
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What was the point of having two game developers with one working on the singleplayer and the other on the multiplayer if the singleplayer is short? I would think that with the focus on the singleplayer with one company would have the gameplay last longer. But no it's short like all recent FPS I mean at least these other shooters has one company doing both modes. Should have had only one team doing the entire game by working on the singleplayer and multiplayer. No point at all.

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#116 dontshackzmii
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fps are killing gaming

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#117 moose_knuckler
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Very disappointing but...I was going to grab MoH and BO on ebay after awhile anyway-regardless of how long the SP was-.
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#118 moose_knuckler
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What was the point of having two game developers with one working on the singleplayer and the other on the multiplayer if the singleplayer is short? I would think that with the focus on the singleplayer with one company would have the gameplay last longer. But no it's short like all recent FPS I mean at least these other shooters has one company doing both modes. Should have had only one team doing the entire game by working on the singleplayer and multiplayer. No point at all.

Warhawk_
True. Have we ever seen the SP dev's before? We could go by their history to see what length their other games are.
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#119 koolbobfat
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Looks alright though.


But 4 hours is simply too short, doesn't matter if it's amazing.
I've played both betas and didn't find either particularly exciting.
I know EA will screw me somehow with their VIP pass, I just don't know how yet. Sounds like it's one part standard online pass.
The BF3 beta is the only reason for purchasing this game now. And if it wasn't for the VIP scheme, I probably would.

What are your feelings on this game after this revelation?

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i beat halo reach in like 4 hours not on hardest difficulty but normal.
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#120 R4gn4r0k
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[QUOTE="R4gn4r0k"]

Yeah you can beat SMB in 5 minutes ... if you speedrun. Great comparison there :roll:you won't have to speedrun to beat this game in 4 hours.

What linear shooter is enjoyable to play 10 times over ? Really

foxhound_fox

I can casually make it through SMB in 15 minutes. I've played the game innumerable times... and the route really isn't that hard to find either.

I've probably played Doom II: Hell on Earth through at least 40 times in my life since it came out. People find what they find enjoyable because that's what they find enjoyable. I won't touch this new MoH with a 10 foot pole... but there are some people out there who may love it, and feel that they can play it through an innumerable amount of times. We may not, but that doesn't rule it out. Its length means nothing to those who enjoy it, and/or find it has decent to good replay value.

The only reason people seem to care about length these days is because they are looking for a time-sink, not an enjoyable experience. I was happy with the $70 I spent on the 5.5 hours I went through Mirror's Edge the first time with... all the other time I spent with it was a bonus.

This is my problem with the gamers these days, they don't seem to recognize the idea "different strokes for different folks." I've played some of the same, highly-scripted things over and over and over again because I want to RE-EXPERIENCE them... and sometimes I notice new things that make it more enjoyable than the first time through (see: Shadow of the Colossus). Just because this game is only 4 hours long doesn't make it an inherently bad game. People have their priorities all messed up.

I get what you are trying to say. But still I believe that the comparison between SMB and modern FPS games doesn't stand. You can find new routes in SMB by finishing it multiple time for example while a scripted shooter stays a scripted shooter.

I have also finished some scripted shooters dozens of times for example Half life. But talking about that game, I don't like the trend in FPS games to provide a tutorial lenght SP and focusing everything on MP. Shooters can provide a long and enjoyable experience instead of a hollywood blockbuster experience. (the first few CODs for example)

I'm not saying MOH will be bad because it is short. What I am saying is that the only thing I was interested in in this game, the singleplayer, seems more like an afterthought now...

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#121 deactivated-5c79c3cfce222
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This is my problem with the gamers these days, they don't seem to recognize the idea "different strokes for different folks."

The only reason people seem to care about length these days is because they are looking for a time-sink, not an enjoyable experience.

People have their priorities all messed up.

foxhound_fox

They're not looking for a time sink, they're looking for value. Different people prioritize different things, you just said that yourself. To many replaying a game would be the unenjoyable time sink.

But I understand what you're trying to say, you shouldn't engage a game with the preconception that if it's only X hours long then there is no value. Length is not the sole deciding factor. But it is a significant one to many.

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#122 Doolz2024
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Wow, pretty sad when the bonus game coming with the PS3 version is longer than the new game your paying $60 for.
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#123 koolbobfat
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amount of hours depends on each person.
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#124 BPoole96
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I don't mind. I'm mainly buying MoH for the MP, so if the SP is entertaining but ends after 4 hours, that is fine with me. Plus MoH: Frontlines is available and that is one of my favorite FPS campaigns ever

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#125 deactivated-5c79c3cfce222
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amount of hours depends on each person.koolbobfat
Point being that the campaign is short.
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#126 koolbobfat
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[QUOTE="koolbobfat"]amount of hours depends on each person.McStrongfast
Point being that the campaign is short.

depends on ur play style, if ur just doing a speed run maybe 4 hours if ur actually exploring every nook and crannie could be 6 hours.
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#127 koolbobfat
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Yea, im 26 now im getting kinda old, from my experience. 2 hours of fun>>>8 hours of boringness.
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#128 deactivated-5c79c3cfce222
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depends on ur play **** if ur just doing a speed run maybe 4 hours if ur actually exploring every nook and crannie could be 6 hours.koolbobfat

Point being that the campaign is short.

What if the guy is playing it like a normal person and a speedrun would be 3 hours? I'm gonna assume it's a normal playthrough, because that's normal. Not like there'll be a whole lot to explore in this game anwyway.
Yea, im 26 now im getting kinda old, from my experience.

2 hours of fun>>>8 hours of boringness.koolbobfat

That's kind of an obvious choice wouldn't you say? Fun vs boring, I'll take the fun thanks.

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#129 coltsfan4ever
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i was kinda hyped for this game when i first heard it would be set in modern times. but the more i have seen of the game the less hyped i am for it. it looks painfully generic and now i hear about the 4 hour bs. i will get this when it hits $30 or below

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#130 Santesyu
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I don't mind. I'm mainly buying MoH for the MP, so if the SP is entertaining but ends after 4 hours, that is fine with me. Plus MoH: Frontlines is available and that is one of my favorite FPS campaigns ever

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glad they added trophies to frontlines yeah it will be worth it regardless, seem like the majority will not get it and the people who really wants to play MOH will get it regardless. So at least it will have a good community in the end.
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#131 FrozenLiquid
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[QUOTE="R4gn4r0k"]

Yeah you can beat SMB in 5 minutes ... if you speedrun. Great comparison there :roll:you won't have to speedrun to beat this game in 4 hours.

What linear shooter is enjoyable to play 10 times over ? Really

foxhound_fox

I can casually make it through SMB in 15 minutes. I've played the game innumerable times... and the route really isn't that hard to find either.

I've probably played Doom II: Hell on Earth through at least 40 times in my life since it came out. People find what they find enjoyable because that's what they find enjoyable. I won't touch this new MoH with a 10 foot pole... but there are some people out there who may love it, and feel that they can play it through an innumerable amount of times. We may not, but that doesn't rule it out. Its length means nothing to those who enjoy it, and/or find it has decent to good replay value.

The only reason people seem to care about length these days is because they are looking for a time-sink, not an enjoyable experience. I was happy with the $70 I spent on the 5.5 hours I went through Mirror's Edge the first time with... all the other time I spent with it was a bonus.

This is my problem with the gamers these days, they don't seem to recognize the idea "different strokes for different folks." I've played some of the same, highly-scripted things over and over and over again because I want to RE-EXPERIENCE them... and sometimes I notice new things that make it more enjoyable than the first time through (see: Shadow of the Colossus). Just because this game is only 4 hours long doesn't make it an inherently bad game. People have their priorities all messed up.

I would say SMB was designed fairly well to be enjoyed multiple times. It may not features something brand spanking new every time you play it, but it was made in a way that the possibility for different outcomes depending on the player's choice was large. The same goes with Doom.

The issue many gamers have is not just about the length of the campaign. At 4-6 hours, with a game that's scripted with every footstep, the game feels less like a game and more like an interactive movie. That is a legitimate complaint.

What most gamers do not understand, however, is that with the increasing demand for detail per pixel, developers do not have the time to create long lasting, great playing games. You either get a fantastic presentation or a long game. You can't have both, because it takes too much time and money.

What developers can do though, is create a game which allows for maximum replay value. Halo: Reach, whether people like it or not, does this superbly. The game does not feature heavily scripted set pieces, and on top of that, mission objectives can vary slightly with each playthrough. Even better, Bungie hosts daily challenges which encourage you to play through levels with meta-objectives which make people come back for more.

Games like Call of Duty and Medal of Honour could learn from that approach.

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#132 noodlevixen
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Being that I don't like MP, this saddens me.:( Oh well, here's hoping COD:BO is longer...

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#133 ManUtd4life096
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Did anyone even bother to watch the linked videos? Apparently the TC didn't because there are only two and each are two hours long, but the latter doesn't show the end of the game, the guy just hasn't uploaded the next video. Its not 4 hours long guys, you've been mislead.

jamejame

Post this in a new thread. Otherwise, no one will notice and bash the game unfairly.

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#134 deactivated-5c79c3cfce222
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[QUOTE="jamejame"]

Did anyone even bother to watch the linked videos? Apparently the TC didn't because there are only two and each are two hours long, but the latter doesn't show the end of the game, the guy just hasn't uploaded the next video. Its not 4 hours long guys, you've been mislead.

ManUtd4life096

Post this in a new thread. Otherwise, no one will notice and bash the game unfairly.

Updated the first post to hopefully stop nonsense like this.

In other news GamesMaster reviewed the thing. 8.5.

Like Battlefield before it, Medal of Honor is an engrossing online shooter with an above-average campaign mode bolted on. As a result, it's a purchase you should only seriously consider if your console is hooked up to the intarwebs.GamesMaster

That is the complete opposite of what I was expecting and hoping for. Still might purchase it for the BF3 beta if I can bring myself to ignore the online pass...

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#135 kuraimen
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I'm not sure what's the problem here. This is what shooter fans want don't they? At least it seems that way since they keep buying FPS games with mediocre campaigns by the millions. Companies just follow their customers wishes.
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#136 racing1750
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Too short, but hardly any FPS games this gen are over 5 hours :P
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#137 7ojistix
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I'm sure it's been said but wow, it really does look just like a COD reskin.

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#138 Santesyu
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I'm sure it's been said but wow, it really does look just like a COD reskin.

7ojistix
if you bought the game and actually played it then manybe you wouldn't think so. I played it picked it up from gamestop didn't think this was a cod clone the mp is totally different and between the 2 games cod is more hollowood.
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#139 koolbobfat
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I'm sure it's been said but wow, it really does look just like a COD reskin.

7ojistix

i think u mean bad company 2 reskin.

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#140 dakan45
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Yup a weaker title than mw2 both in campaign and even shorter and more generic...ea i am so impressed. I keep my 60 bucks for cod black ops. So much for working on this in a long time to turn even shorter and more simplistic than mw2.

Nice, just nice. They said back then "we are making the best fps ever" and now Bobby kotick said "ea is gonna have to try hard to compete with us in the future" Gee, i wonder why? Perhaps because they are even more lazy and useless than you?

I highly wonder how many pc gamers are gonna buy this for 60 bucks at launch.

By the way pc gameplay. Great so i have to choose between a super linear game with meh story and a super linear game with a great conspiracy story. Well black ops it is.

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#141 dakan45
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Black Ops is gonna slaughter Medal of Honor

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Not wanna be a fanboy, but.... YEAH. This is a really poor effort from ea's behalf to rip cod, the singleplayer is the same yet not as impressive. Now i like cod, but people who dont like cod will see moh as laughable for trying to compete with cod and ending up being clearly an inferior product. It just kills faith in fps gaming for those people.