Medieval 2 Total War: The ultimate technical achievement:

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#1 True_Gamer_
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24,000 characters x 2,000 polygons per character = 48,000,000 polygons...

Add to that the huge cities/castles, siege engines, detailed enviroment...

There is NO game or platform that can even touch the sheep raw brutality of the TW engine... 

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#2 Verge_6
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...Yay?
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#3 smokeydabear076
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...Yay?Verge_6
Nay.
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#4 deadmeat59
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well your going to need a mega powerful pc to make the most out of that game 4 cores at 2.6ghz 4gbs ram and 2 8800s should do to max that game out . in size of battles and system settings without lag .
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#6 MTBare
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"]...Yay?smokeydabear076
Nay.

/thread. And why do you make so many of these topics? I got that game because I heard you praising it so f****** much and it was boring. It even ran on this computer, supreme commander can't even run on this computer. 

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#7 rykaziel
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Wouldn't be a successful week for you without a Total War majesty thread, would it? We get it, you like the engine.  Get off your knees and stop embarrassing yourself.
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#8 eo12601
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the game also has glitches and gameplay problems galore.  Still, its pretty to look at. :P
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#9 True_Gamer_
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Yea but the game isnt really "FUn"

nor do the graphics wow me

R-Dot-Yung

FPS camera and WASD controls

Epic cinematic feel

Huge online battles without any pathetic basebuilding resource collecting... 

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#10 Verge_6
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Holy CRAP...I type in 'Medieval: Total War II' in the search button for this board and 99% of the posts made about this game are made by you...wow...
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#11 True_Gamer_
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the game also has glitches and gameplay problems galore. Still, its pretty to look at. :Peo12601

Thats why there is something called 1.02 patch...

And before console fanboys moan: Quake 4 Xbox360... 

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#13 MTBare
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[QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"]

Yea but the game isnt really "FUn"

nor do the graphics wow me

True_Gamer_

FPS camera and WASD controls

Epic cinematic feel

Huge online battles without any pathetic basebuilding resource collecting... still doesn't make this game very exciting.

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#15 miss_kitt3n
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Company of Heroes is better, graphically and in gameplay.
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#16 True_Gamer_
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[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"]

Yea but the game isnt really "FUn"

nor do the graphics wow me

R-Dot-Yung

FPS camera and WASD controls

Epic cinematic feel

Huge online battles without any pathetic basebuilding resource collecting...

to each his own

id much rather play Starcraft

Have you EVER played that game?

It has morale/flanking/enriclement/charge physics/ground angle level/shield angle...

Its a pinnacle of tactical gameplay...NO build order memorising clickfests... 

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#17 eo12601
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[QUOTE="eo12601"]the game also has glitches and gameplay problems galore. Still, its pretty to look at. :PTrue_Gamer_

Thats why there is something called 1.02 patch...

And before console fanboys moan: Quake 4 Xbox360...

I have that patch.  It helps, but it doesn't fix everything.
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#18 True_Gamer_
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[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"]

Yea but the game isnt really "FUn"

nor do the graphics wow me

MTBare

FPS camera and WASD controls

Epic cinematic feel

Huge online battles without any pathetic basebuilding resource collecting... still doesn't make this game very exciting.

Exciting=Opinion

Tactical thinking + Pure strategy= Fact 

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#19 TrueReligion_
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Wow. :| 

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#20 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"]

Yea but the game isnt really "FUn"

nor do the graphics wow me

True_Gamer_

FPS camera and WASD controls

Epic cinematic feel

Huge online battles without any pathetic basebuilding resource collecting...

to each his own

id much rather play Starcraft

Have you EVER played that game?

It has morale/flanking/enriclement/charge physics/ground angle level/shield angle...

Its a pinnacle of tactical gameplay...NO build order memorising clickfests...

Maybe his, I dunno...opinions differ from yours? You know, the whole 'I like different things than you do' aspect that is human nature? 

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#21 Verge_6
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Wow. :|

TrueReligion_

I told you... 

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#22 True_Gamer_
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Wow. :|

TrueReligion_

 

 

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#23 MTBare
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Wow. :|

TrueReligion_

lol, even got the AAA hype in there, flop. 

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#24 TrueReligion_
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(pathetic comeback)

True_Gamer_

That's original. :roll:

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#25 True_Gamer_
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[QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]

Wow. :|

MTBare

lol, even got the AAA hype in there, flop.

Hardware requirements are the most pathetic form of game judgement... 

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#26 MTBare
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[QUOTE="MTBare"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"]

Yea but the game isnt really "FUn"

nor do the graphics wow me

True_Gamer_

FPS camera and WASD controls

Epic cinematic feel

Huge online battles without any pathetic basebuilding resource collecting... still doesn't make this game very exciting.

Exciting=Opinion

Tactical thinking + Pure strategy= Fact

Exactly, all that stuff comes together nicely on paper, but in the game it's not all that fun in my opinion.

In your opinion this game is the best game in teh universe!!!!!11!!!!!!!  

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#27 Einhanderkiller
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I got this game a few weeks ago and it really is quite awesome.
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#28 smokeydabear076
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I got this game a few weeks ago and it really is quite awesome.Einhanderkiller
Yeah it is a good game.
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#29 TrueReligion_
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[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="MTBare"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"]

Yea but the game isnt really "FUn"

nor do the graphics wow me

MTBare

FPS camera and WASD controls

Epic cinematic feel

Huge online battles without any pathetic basebuilding resource collecting... still doesn't make this game very exciting.

Exciting=Opinion

Tactical thinking + Pure strategy= Fact

Exactly, all that stuff comes together nicely on paper, but in the game it's not all that fun in my opinion.

In your opinion this game is the best game in teh universe!!!!!11!!!!!!!

To be fair, the game is good...but not as good as the OP says it is. 

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#30 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]

Wow. :|

True_Gamer_

 

You really should care. This level of obssession is NOT healthy. 

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#31 True_Gamer_
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[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]

Wow. :|

Verge_6

 

You really should care. This level of obssession is NOT healthy.

Tell that to some WoW and Halo players.. 

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#32 lettuceman44
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ok I love this game too, I think its amazing, epic, one of my favorite games ever, but I don't go around making 34552345 topics about it
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#33 comthitnuong
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I wouldn't say so because Medieval can cripple your computer pretty easily...
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#34 Chaos_Daro
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Wow. :| 

TrueReligion_

I'm sorry True_Gamer_ but that's pretty sad :(

You need to play games other than M2TW.

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#35 KAS3Y_JAM3Z
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well your going to need a mega powerful pc to make the most out of that game 4 cores at 2.6ghz 4gbs ram and 2 8800s should do to max that game out . in size of battles and system settings without lag .deadmeat59

 

It runs perfect on my pc.

 

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#36 Wasdie  Moderator
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It is simply amazing what they have done with that game.
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#38 Teuf_
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It's an impressive poly count, but they can do it because its an RTS.  When you've got hundreds of identical and small models, you can use instancing and batching to get good performance.
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#39 Blessing77
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Tw2 is an awesome game but TG you need to get a life.

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#40 True_Gamer_
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It's an impressive poly count, but they can do it because its an RTS. When you've got hundreds of identical and small models, you can use instancing and batching to get good performance.Teufelhuhn

1st the camera zooms VERY close to make  the models look huge...

2nd the engine generates from random body parts the models... 

TW games have absolutely nothing to do with the Dune2 clo(w)nes...

 

 

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#41 True_Gamer_
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As for the numbers:

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#42 SmoothMoved
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Yea but the game isnt really "FUn"

nor do the graphics wow me

R-Dot-Yung
Most ignorant comment ive ever heard ... ok between those lines .
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#43 Rockclmbr6
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I'm sure it's a fun game and all, but seriously, you can stop making topics about it.  I'm starting to wonder if you just sit there and think up another way you can say that you love the game. 

I personally don't care for RTS's...I just can't get into them.  It is kinda cool to see all those soldiers on one screen though.
 
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#44 osan0
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it is quite an achievement allright. the size of the maps is also staggering.

The creative assembly have a tendency to break the accepted standard though. whod a thought that the PS2 could render 500 3d models  in real time? well they did it in spartan total warrior. they also had a simpler version of HDR which was thought undooable at the time. i remember the lead tech guy talking about the vector unit processors in the PS2 and how barely any devs used them (he was also surprised by the GC. he thought that would cause some real hassle but developement went smoothly for the system). They know how to get the best out of their available resources. I cant wait to see what they do with the next total war game and DX10. DX10 is really good at allowing devs have loads of stuff on the screen so there going to have real fun with that :D.

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#45 True_Gamer_
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it is quite an achievement allright. the size of the maps is also staggering.

The creative assembly have a tendency to break the accepted standard though. whod a thought that the PS2 could render 500 3d models in real time? well they did it in spartan total warrior. they also had a simpler version of HDR which was thought undooable at the time. i remember the lead tech guy talking about the vector unit processors in the PS2 and how barely any devs used them (he was also surprised by the GC. he thought that would cause some real hassle but developement went smoothly for the system). They know how to get the best out of their available resources. I cant wait to see what they do with the next total war game and DX10. DX10 is really good at allowing devs have loads of stuff on the screen so there going to have real fun with that :D.

osan0

Exactly these guys will raise the characters on screen cap to 150k in the expansion...I cant imagine what they will do in the next game... 

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#46 musicalmac  Moderator
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Seriously, how many threads can one make about the same dang game. We get it that you like the Total War series. It's not, as you like to think, the ultimate technical achievement.

So weak sauce!
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#47 True_Gamer_
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Seriously, how many threads can one make about the same dang game. We get it that you like the Total War series. It's not, as you like to think, the ultimate technical achievement.

So weak sauce!musicalmac

Do you feel better? If yes my thread is beneficial...If not Im happy for you... 

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#48 tool_rage
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"2,000 polygons per character"  -  Could you post a link to that? 

I'm not saying it's wrong,  I just want to know for sure. 

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[QUOTE="Verge_6"]...Yay?smokeydabear076
Nay.

Kay. 

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#50 STABW0UND
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As for the numbers:

True_Gamer_

OH NOEZ! ATTACK OF TEH RECYCLED CHARACTER MODELZ!