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#1 popopatrol
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Caution Wall Of Text Ahead People need to stop accusing the halo series of being milked when MGS series is worse imo. Each major Halo game featuring the chief has come out every three years, which offers a good break to produce quality work. Halo Reach seems to be heading in that direction as well. Bungie's track record shows how they improve on each halo and make a quality game that is fun. They also offer (next to valve) the best suppport to the online community, with 10 new maps released since halo 3, and various weekend playlists. Halo ODST is more of an expansion and builds on the existing story, while giving players a new character. Bungie has provided enough new content, and has changed the gameplay enough to make this a totally different game in the halo universe. Even Halo Wars is completely different and offered solid RTS on a console (something PS3 owners don't have) Created by the famous Ensemble, it was not a rip-off of the Halo name, but a well made game. Now onto MGS there have been 7 metal gear solid games released since conception in what 1980's and at least 3 confirmed planned to come. If any game should retire its hero MGS should. What happened with MGS 4 being the last? That seemed more like a way to hype the game, to give fans more of a reason to buy, but it was only the last in the story. Looks like Hideo Kojima needed to keep reusing his old characters instead of making a new one after 20+ years. Anyone remember MGS 3: Subsistence? rebuy the same MGS 3 game w/ some added features and an online play that should have already been added, along w/ being able to use rite analog to look around. This series seems to have a hard time letting its characters die, as they all seem to come back in one way or another. If Halo can be considered milkage despite being released w/ quality gameplay, then i cry foul on the MGS franchise. There are so many obvious flaws, however ppl only seem to point at halo and scrutinize it. MGS story is in no way enthralling or captivating. I know for a fact more than 3/4 of the ppl who say how great the story is don't even understand it. They see a couple of touching scenes, and thats what they base the entire story on. The Halo story on the other hand is understandable, and presents itself in a grand fashion. It is a really well told tale that can be understood, and also creates tension and excitement (TBH there are some corny predictable moments, but its a Scifi, can't expect less) The online mode is terrible. MGS cannot come close in comparison to Halo. The online is a broken piece of junk that is neither fun or exciting. There has been no support to the game post-release. As far as hype goes you have toi admit MGS 4 was hyped to the stars, not as much as halo because the halo series is more popular, but the hype factor was like that of killzone 2. The high scores given to the game was only initial impressions, and did not look at every aspect, and in fact ignored a lot of issues. ( I think this happened with GTA IV as well) I could compare the innovations of each game, or show how MGS also has not changed gameplay much yet ppl say halo is the same. This is for all the sony only fans who think HALO is overated and milked when they have to just look at a few of their own "AAAA" games. Either Halo=/=Milkage or MGS=Milkage + Halo=Milkage Rant over oh and b4 ppl can post it: COOL STORY BRO (yeah get something new already) WALL OF TEXT DIDNT READ (wutever go do a poll or something)
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#2 OreoMilkshake
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They're good games. Nothing else matters.
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#3 II_Seraphim_II
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They're good games. Nothing else matters.OreoMilkshake
Yup. Until the games start getting derivative and terrible, keep the "milkage" coming. This "milkage" brought us the greatest character in the world of video games, The Boss :D
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#4 finalfantasy94
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You forgot to putIMO when you comapared the halo and MGS stories.

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#5 II_Seraphim_II
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MGS hasnt changed gameplay much? Has TC even played MGS games? because its pretty clear that there was a MAJOR...let me repeat that...MAJOR gameplay changes from MGS3 to MGS4. OverTheShoulder camera? Full 3D camera? Viability of gunplay? MGS practically added another genre to the mix with MGS4, while Halo has remained largely unchanged unless you want to use spin-offs like Halo Wars in your arguments in which case we'll have to bring up MGS AC!D.
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#6 ropumar
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The MSG series was all about story, so it needed games to tell all the story. And never were more than 2 msg games using same engine.

Well the story for MSG4 is over.

PSP peace walker will be a prequel in a handheld just for fans, as was the older psp msg game was. Cant really be said is milking since handhelds always got things like that.

I do think the multiplat spin of is kinda too much. But since is a new gameplay and new engine and even new hero, it is ok if they dont strech.

I know little about Halo ODST and HALO reach, if they are both like expansion and cash in, then would be milking. But as of halo 1,2,3 and halo wars I dont consider miliking.

But C'mon, if halo OSDT be almost the same as halo 3, and even uses halo 3 multiplayer withouth any improvement that was worth a sequel. It is milking.

And if the story is bland, we can sure call cash in, since the whole point of ODST was to show the other side of the batle.

And now they even charging $60. And I do belive Halo3/ODST and reach will be same engine one same generation and on same console.

C'mon.... think about.

Unless reach try to be impressive like killzone 2 was and brings a revamped engine that offer some new gameplay ideas. Perhaps is time also we see a halo with 60 players like resistence, Well at least 32 is needed.

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nah the true milking machine is guitar hero theres bout 4 a year now, to be honest with you that is Milking it.MGS has always been good they only come round once every couple of years and tend to be ahh MGS and you end up playing all the older ones again xD.To be honest im sure theres only bout 12 games and most of them are big parts of the story, where as FF has over 100 with all its derrivative spinoffs and games....so in comparrasin MGS isnt milking an aweful lot but still were getting a good product from Hideo's crew MGS never lets me down

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#8 shawn7324
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I nearly made it 24HRS without seeing yetanother sad individiual. Creating new accounts on a gaming website in an attempt to make a game series look bad looks pretty pathetic.Someone pleasehelp this person find the light & lead him out of the dark hole of miserable worthlessness he/she has found themselves trapped within. Others can hold the torch, but only you can follow.

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#9 campzor
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alot of franchises are milking..some just do it better then others (activision) , mgs has milked , mario has , final fantasy , resident evil .. and despise what people may think halo is starting to get there... i mean 2 halo games within 6-7 years and now of a sudden we're getting halo games in our cereal boxes...
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#10 princeofshapeir
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Basic summary: Halo fanboy says Metal Gear is teh suck and Halo is teh best evar. Lulz ensues and a fail of a thread is created once again.
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:lol: thanks for the laugh lvl 1 veteran.
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The MSG series was all about story, so it needed games to tell all the story. And never were more than 2 msg games using same engine.

Well the story for MSG4 is over.

PSP peace walker will be a prequel in a handheld just for fans, as was the older psp msg game was. Cant really be said is milking since handhelds always got things like that.

I do think the multiplat spin of is kinda too much. But since is a new gameplay and new engine and even new hero, it is ok if they dont strech.

I know little about Halo ODST and HALO reach, if they are both like expansion and cash in, then would be milking. But as of halo 1,2,3 and halo wars I dont consider miliking.

But C'mon, if halo OSDT be almost the same as halo 3, and even uses halo 3 multiplayer withouth any improvement that was worth a sequel. It is milking.

And if the story is bland, we can sure call cash in, since the whole point of ODST was to show the other side of the batle.

And now they even charging $60. And I do belive Halo3/ODST and reach will be same engine one same generation and on same console.

C'mon.... think about.

Unless reach try to be impressive like killzone 2 was and brings a revamped engine that offer some new gameplay ideas. Perhaps is time also we see a halo with 60 players like resistence, Well at least 32 is needed.

ropumar
They have one true purpose, to show tthe other side of ther story, it has multiplayer but that is simply drictly linked to the original halo 3 multiplayer- It has firefight, so we will see some improvements. I think the story will be alright, bungie never cease to amaze me. Bunge are not greedy, 60 dollars mean they did someththing. - All the maps including the new ones. - A new firefight mode, i horde like survival mode. - New types of different weapon, like a different spartan laser, smg, magnum. - Custom odst, according to your taste. - Halo: Reach beta - Link to halo multiplayer. - Halo reach has a new engine, bungie always does this every 3 years or so, so this one will have improved graphics. I'm not sure if it will be like killzone, but it is not unlikley. I't may be 32 players.
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#13 zarshack
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the gap between MGS3 and MGS4 is 4 years. Obviously being milked.

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#14 CBR600-RR
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How can you say they are milking? All of them are great games, they've never disappointed me.

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#15 princeofshapeir
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MGS hasnt changed gameplay much? Has TC even played MGS games? because its pretty clear that there was a MAJOR...let me repeat that...MAJOR gameplay changes from MGS3 to MGS4. OverTheShoulder camera? Full 3D camera? Viability of gunplay? MGS practically added another genre to the mix with MGS4, while Halo has remained largely unchanged unless you want to use spin-offs like Halo Wars in your arguments in which case we'll have to bring up MGS AC!D.II_Seraphim_II
All the MGS games have changed their gameplay from their predecessor. MGS2 brought first-person aiming, soumersaulting, hold-ups, wall-hanging, and more interaction with the environment to the series. MGS3 brought CQC, knife combat, a camoflauge/face paint system, and a healing system to the series. Subsistence, the release of MGS3: Snake Eater, brought a detachable third-person behind-the-back camera as well. And of course, MGS4 gave us what the above poster just mentioned. All of the MGS games have changed and mixed up gameplay a lot; in MGS1 and MGS2, the emphasis was on hiding behind walls in an urban, industrial setting; MGS3 was about disguising yourself and using the environment to your advantage in a jungle setting; and MGS4 changed everything entirely by giving us a true blend of stealth and action in an explosive war zone.
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#16 Toriko42
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Stop calling every sequel milking, it's getting really old. The only games being milked are Call of Duty and Guitar Hero
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#17 AAllxxjjnn
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No, not really. Everyone's pretty much explained to you why that's not the case by now though.
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#18 muay_thai_demon
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Right up there with Final Fantasy.

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#19 TR800
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I agree TC.
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#20 deactivated-652663614c5e5
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why create a new account just to post this?

anyway, just because the MGS story is too complex for you doesnt mean you should have the incentive to group other people with your lack of understanding. MGS's story is better than Halo's, no contest. im not gonna argue that MGS's online is better than halo's because it most definately isnt, but unlike halo MGS mainy focuses on the single player. and you said there was no support for its online after it was released, which is wrong, they've released several expansions such as the meme, gene and scene expansions which added both new maps and playable characters.

and btw, every game is reviewed on initial impressions, so its stupid of you to say MGS4 scored high because of this and didnt look at every aspect, because i can say the same about every halo game.

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Stop calling every sequel milking, it's getting really old. The only games being milked are Call of Duty and Guitar HeroToriko42
yeah this, i think if modern warfare 2 turns out to be modern warfare .5 then we can safely assume that treyarch will produce the same game with a different skin. that would be 4 of the same game in 4 years. we would probably have to wait out the gen until they actually make enough changes. it may turn into the new madden of shooters. if modern warfare 2 makes enough new changes to make it really feel like a proper sequel then i wouldn't mind the milking of call of duty on the infinity ward side. as for guitar hero they need to quit it, guitar hero 5 is just some new songs, and hardly any (if any) new gameplay changes i don't see the point. they are releasing smash hits with the same songs fro guitar hero 1 and 2 and charging $60, why not just play guitar hero 1 and 2. they'll burn it out and it'll be dead by next gen if they don't change it up.
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#22 clyde46
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Umm, lets see.

Halo, Halo 2, Halo 2 map packs on disc form (you had to pay for that) Halo CE, Halo 3, Halo 2 Vista, Halo 3 map packs, Halo Wars, Halo Wars map pack, Halo: ODST, Halo Reach. And thats not milking?

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#23 -DrRobotnik-
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Umm, lets see.

Halo, Halo 2, Halo 2 map packs on disc form (you had to pay for that) Halo CE, Halo 3, Halo 2 Vista, Halo 3 map packs, Halo Wars, Halo Wars map pack, Halo: ODST, Halo Reach. And thats not milking?

clyde46
No actually. Think before you post. Oh, and dont be so silly as to include a damn map pack, maybe you won't look so ridiculous next time.
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#24 clyde46
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[QUOTE="clyde46"]

Umm, lets see.

Halo, Halo 2, Halo 2 map packs on disc form (you had to pay for that) Halo CE, Halo 3, Halo 2 Vista, Halo 3 map packs, Halo Wars, Halo Wars map pack, Halo: ODST, Halo Reach. And thats not milking?

-DrRobotnik-
No actually. Think before you post. Oh, and dont be so silly as to include a damn map pack, maybe you won't look so ridiculous next time.

Ok, even if you take away the map packs, it still more than the OP's theory of the Metal Gear series.
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#25 II_Seraphim_II
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Umm, lets see.

Halo, Halo 2, Halo 2 map packs on disc form (you had to pay for that) Halo CE, Halo 3, Halo 2 Vista, Halo 3 map packs, Halo Wars, Halo Wars map pack, Halo: ODST, Halo Reach. And thats not milking?

clyde46
Neither Halo nor MGS are being milked IMO because they are still good. :D
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#26 -DrRobotnik-
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[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"][QUOTE="clyde46"]

Umm, lets see.

Halo, Halo 2, Halo 2 map packs on disc form (you had to pay for that) Halo CE, Halo 3, Halo 2 Vista, Halo 3 map packs, Halo Wars, Halo Wars map pack, Halo: ODST, Halo Reach. And thats not milking?

clyde46

No actually. Think before you post. Oh, and dont be so silly as to include a damn map pack, maybe you won't look so ridiculous next time.

Ok, even if you take away the map packs, it still more than the OP's theory of the Metal Gear series.

ORLY?

  1. Halo
  2. Halo PC
  3. Halo 2
  4. Halo 2 PC
  5. Halo 3
  6. Halo Wars
  1. Metal Gear
  2. Metal Gear II
  3. Metal Gear Solid
  4. Metal Gear Solid PC
  5. Metal Gear Solid 2
  6. Metal Gear Solid 2 Xbox
  7. Metal Gear Solid 2 PC
  8. Metal Gear Solid 3
  9. Metal Gear Solid 4
  10. Portable Ops
  11. Acid
  12. Acid 2

And i won't include the numerous MGS re-releases, remakes or the MG cellphone ports and so on. And no, im not trying to argue that the MGS franchise is milked, i don't think either series is but i hate hyprocrisy.

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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"] No actually. Think before you post. Oh, and dont be so silly as to include a damn map pack, maybe you won't look so ridiculous next time. -DrRobotnik-

Ok, even if you take away the map packs, it still more than the OP's theory of the Metal Gear series.

ORLY?

  1. Halo
  2. Halo PC
  3. Halo 2
  4. Halo 2 PC
  5. Halo 3
  6. Halo Wars
  1. Metal Gear
  2. Metal Gear II
  3. Metal Gear Solid
  4. Metal Gear Solid PC
  5. Metal Gear Solid 2
  6. Metal Gear Solid 2 Xbox
  7. Metal Gear Solid 2 PC
  8. Metal Gear Solid 3
  9. Metal Gear Solid 4
  10. Portable Ops
  11. Acid
  12. Acid 2

And i won't include the numerous MGS re-releases, remakes or the MG cellphone ports and so on. And no, im not trying to argue that the MGS franchise is milked, i don't think either series is but i hate hyprocrisy.

ok, evidence has been delieved. I will conced.
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#28 II_Seraphim_II
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^ kinda weak adding ports into the mix. Remakes sure (like the GC MGS) but not ports .

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#29 nintendoboy16
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Stop calling every sequel milking, it's getting really old. The only games being milked are Call of Duty and Guitar HeroToriko42
Don't forget Naruto, Zelda, and Dragon Ball.
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#30 razgriz_101
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"] No actually. Think before you post. Oh, and dont be so silly as to include a damn map pack, maybe you won't look so ridiculous next time. -DrRobotnik-

Ok, even if you take away the map packs, it still more than the OP's theory of the Metal Gear series.

ORLY?

  1. Halo
  2. Halo PC
  3. Halo 2
  4. Halo 2 PC
  5. Halo 3
  6. Halo Wars
  1. Metal Gear
  2. Metal Gear II
  3. Metal Gear Solid
  4. Metal Gear Solid PC
  5. Metal Gear Solid 2
  6. Metal Gear Solid 2 Xbox
  7. Metal Gear Solid 2 PC
  8. Metal Gear Solid 3
  9. Metal Gear Solid 4
  10. Portable Ops
  11. Acid
  12. Acid 2

And i won't include the numerous MGS re-releases, remakes or the MG cellphone ports and so on. And no, im not trying to argue that the MGS franchise is milked, i don't think either series is but i hate hyprocrisy.

in a way the numbers are prolly bout right for a series on the go from the 1980's aswell and if its a rereleased with minimal or just a straight over port i usually dont count it unless its been totally reworked and revameped :P.But when you look at MGS its average is bout maybe a game every year and a bit.

Who cares both sell boatloads and are loved by critics and gamers alike.

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#31 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="Toriko42"]Stop calling every sequel milking, it's getting really old. The only games being milked are Call of Duty and Guitar Heronintendoboy16
Don't forget Naruto, Zelda, and Dragon Ball.

I was gonna defend Zelda, but when you have a billion games with the same story....one has to wonder "Whats the difference between Zelda and Guitar Hero?" I guess Zelda gets a pass, because it does have some minor gameplay changes :? But yeah, naruto and especially DB have been abused like no other :(
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#32 -DrRobotnik-
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^ kinda weak adding ports into the mix. Remakes sure (like the GC MGS) but not ports .

II_Seraphim_II
i agree, but Halo ports were included so i included mgs ports. Either way i dont care, but series's are brilliant.
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#33 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]

^ kinda weak adding ports into the mix. Remakes sure (like the GC MGS) but not ports .

-DrRobotnik-
i agree, but Halo ports were included so i included mgs ports. Either way i dont care, but series's are brilliant.

Ah ok, I agree that Halo isnt being milked and neither is MGS. They could make 100 more as long as they are good.
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#34 pierst179
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When the MG games start getting terrible (probably never) I will join your cause.

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#35 calvinx6
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Metal Gear is being milk because that the only game that Kojima can make.

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#36 BioShockOwnz
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Metal Gear

Metal Gear: Solid Snake

MGS

MGS: VR Missions

MGS2

MGS3

MGS4

MGS4 iPhone

Metal Gear AC!D

Metal Gear AC!D 2

Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops

Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops +

MGS: The Twin Snakes

Metal Gear Solid: Rising

Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker

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No doubt.

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#37 tontontam0
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Kojima has a novel written on his mind and he cannot fit it on one game.

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#38 kemar7856
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nothing beats final fantasy in milkage

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[QUOTE="ropumar"]

The MSG series was all about story, so it needed games to tell all the story. And never were more than 2 msg games using same engine.

Well the story for MSG4 is over.

PSP peace walker will be a prequel in a handheld just for fans, as was the older psp msg game was. Cant really be said is milking since handhelds always got things like that.

I do think the multiplat spin of is kinda too much. But since is a new gameplay and new engine and even new hero, it is ok if they dont strech.

I know little about Halo ODST and HALO reach, if they are both like expansion and cash in, then would be milking. But as of halo 1,2,3 and halo wars I dont consider miliking.

But C'mon, if halo OSDT be almost the same as halo 3, and even uses halo 3 multiplayer withouth any improvement that was worth a sequel. It is milking.

And if the story is bland, we can sure call cash in, since the whole point of ODST was to show the other side of the batle.

And now they even charging $60. And I do belive Halo3/ODST and reach will be same engine one same generation and on same console.

C'mon.... think about.

Unless reach try to be impressive like killzone 2 was and brings a revamped engine that offer some new gameplay ideas. Perhaps is time also we see a halo with 60 players like resistence, Well at least 32 is needed.

I nearly made it 24HRS without seeing yetanother sad individiual. Creating new accounts on a gaming website in an attempt to make a game series look bad looks pretty pathetic.Someone pleasehelp this person find the light & lead him out of the dark hole of miserable worthlessness he/she has found themselves trapped within. Others can hold the torch, but only you can follow.

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A level 1 with 1 post that is a wall of text and he act like he has been here for awhile now. yea this isn't and alt account. :roll:

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#41 Nonstop-Madness
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MGS is a much older series than Halo and its been on handhelds, it would make sense to have more games. The only thing is that MGS isnt being milked on consoles, they always come out 2 or 3 years after the previous one unlike how Halo will have 4 console games in 3 years.
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MGS is a much older series than Halo and its been on handhelds, it would make sense to have more games. The only thing is that MGS isnt being milked on consoles, they always come out 2 or 3 years after the previous one unlike how Halo will have 4 console games in 3 years. Nonstop-Madness

and isn't MGS having 3 games in 3 years? include the other PSP games and its had what? 5 games this gen already?

neither franchise is being miliked in the slightest.

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MGS is a much older series than Halo and its been on handhelds, it would make sense to have more games. The only thing is that MGS isnt being milked on consoles, they always come out 2 or 3 years after the previous one unlike how Halo will have 4 console games in 3 years. Nonstop-Madness

MGS has more games over any amount of time than Halo.

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[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]MGS is a much older series than Halo and its been on handhelds, it would make sense to have more games. The only thing is that MGS isnt being milked on consoles, they always come out 2 or 3 years after the previous one unlike how Halo will have 4 console games in 3 years. Mr_Apple_Soup

and isn't MGS having 3 games in 3 years? include the other PSP games and its had what? 5 games this gen already?

neither franchise is being miliked in the slightest.

MGS1 - 1998

MGS2 - 2001

MGS3 - 2004

MGS4 - 2008

MGSR - 2010 or 2011

Halo 3 - 2008

Halo Wars - 2009

Halo ODST - 2009

Halo Reach - 2010

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At least you had the decency to have an explanation. MGS4 was very different from its predecessors, same with each game. In fact MG used to be 8-bit, in all actuallity it has come a lot further than Halo could ever hope to improve. Halo simply gets tweaked each game, MG gets an over haul. Gamers love sequels to boot. If Hideo wants to continue working in the MG universe it is his prerogative.
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[QUOTE="Mr_Apple_Soup"]

[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]MGS is a much older series than Halo and its been on handhelds, it would make sense to have more games. The only thing is that MGS isnt being milked on consoles, they always come out 2 or 3 years after the previous one unlike how Halo will have 4 console games in 3 years. Nonstop-Madness

and isn't MGS having 3 games in 3 years? include the other PSP games and its had what? 5 games this gen already?

neither franchise is being miliked in the slightest.

MGS1 - 1998

MGS2 - 2001

MGS3 - 2004

MGS4 - 2008

MGSR - 2010 or 2011

Halo 3 - 2008

Halo Wars - 2009

Halo ODST - 2009

Halo Reach - 2010

Let me help ya out there. You're missing some Metal Gear installments...

Metal Gear

Metal Gear: Solid Snake

MGS

MGS: VR Missions

MGS2

MGS3

MGS4

MGS4 iPhone

Metal Gear AC!D

Metal Gear AC!D 2

Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops

Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops +

MGS: The Twin Snakes

Metal Gear Solid: Rising

Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker

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[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]

MGS has more games over any amount of time than Halo.

BioShockOwnz

[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]MGS is a much older series than Halo and its been on handhelds, it would make sense to have more games. The only thing is that MGS isnt being milked on consoles, they always come out 2 or 3 years after the previous one unlike how Halo will have 4 console games in 3 years. BioShockOwnz

MGS has more games over any amount of time than Halo.

I think it's safe to say the EA sports franchise has that
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[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]

[QUOTE="Mr_Apple_Soup"]

and isn't MGS having 3 games in 3 years? include the other PSP games and its had what? 5 games this gen already?

neither franchise is being miliked in the slightest.

BioShockOwnz

MGS1 - 1998

MGS2 - 2001

MGS3 - 2004

MGS4 - 2008

MGSR - 2010 or 2011

Halo 3 - 2008

Halo Wars - 2009

Halo ODST - 2009

Halo Reach - 2010

Let me help ya out there. You're missing some Metal Gear installments...

Metal Gear

Metal Gear: Solid Snake

MGS

MGS: VR Missions

MGS2

MGS3

MGS4

MGS4 iPhone

Metal Gear AC!D

Metal Gear AC!D 2

Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops

Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops +

MGS: The Twin Snakes

Metal Gear Solid: Rising

Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker

okay ...... MG = 15 games in 23 years (w/ handheld, and mobile games), Halo = 6 games in 9 years (without handheld and mobile games)
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Ok lets say that the MG franchise gets milked at least we know that every time Kojima releases a new MGS game it nothing like its predecessor.

MGS3 didnt use the same engine from MGS2, most MGS games use a new engine. Overall he produces high quality stuff.

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#50 NYrockinlegend
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I thought Mario was the most milked franchise ever. Not hating on it, some of those games are really fun, but there's too many remade and the Mario Party x titles are getting pretty old and featuring just the same stuff over and over. SMG sounds promising, though.