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They're good games. Nothing else matters.OreoMilkshakeYup. Until the games start getting derivative and terrible, keep the "milkage" coming. This "milkage" brought us the greatest character in the world of video games, The Boss :D
The MSG series was all about story, so it needed games to tell all the story. And never were more than 2 msg games using same engine.
Well the story for MSG4 is over.
PSP peace walker will be a prequel in a handheld just for fans, as was the older psp msg game was. Cant really be said is milking since handhelds always got things like that.
I do think the multiplat spin of is kinda too much. But since is a new gameplay and new engine and even new hero, it is ok if they dont strech.
I know little about Halo ODST and HALO reach, if they are both like expansion and cash in, then would be milking. But as of halo 1,2,3 and halo wars I dont consider miliking.
But C'mon, if halo OSDT be almost the same as halo 3, and even uses halo 3 multiplayer withouth any improvement that was worth a sequel. It is milking.
And if the story is bland, we can sure call cash in, since the whole point of ODST was to show the other side of the batle.
And now they even charging $60. And I do belive Halo3/ODST and reach will be same engine one same generation and on same console.
C'mon.... think about.
Unless reach try to be impressive like killzone 2 was and brings a revamped engine that offer some new gameplay ideas. Perhaps is time also we see a halo with 60 players like resistence, Well at least 32 is needed.
nah the true milking machine is guitar hero theres bout 4 a year now, to be honest with you that is Milking it.MGS has always been good they only come round once every couple of years and tend to be ahh MGS and you end up playing all the older ones again xD.To be honest im sure theres only bout 12 games and most of them are big parts of the story, where as FF has over 100 with all its derrivative spinoffs and games....so in comparrasin MGS isnt milking an aweful lot but still were getting a good product from Hideo's crew MGS never lets me down
I nearly made it 24HRS without seeing yetanother sad individiual. Creating new accounts on a gaming website in an attempt to make a game series look bad looks pretty pathetic.Someone pleasehelp this person find the light & lead him out of the dark hole of miserable worthlessness he/she has found themselves trapped within. Others can hold the torch, but only you can follow.
They have one true purpose, to show tthe other side of ther story, it has multiplayer but that is simply drictly linked to the original halo 3 multiplayer- It has firefight, so we will see some improvements. I think the story will be alright, bungie never cease to amaze me. Bunge are not greedy, 60 dollars mean they did someththing. - All the maps including the new ones. - A new firefight mode, i horde like survival mode. - New types of different weapon, like a different spartan laser, smg, magnum. - Custom odst, according to your taste. - Halo: Reach beta - Link to halo multiplayer. - Halo reach has a new engine, bungie always does this every 3 years or so, so this one will have improved graphics. I'm not sure if it will be like killzone, but it is not unlikley. I't may be 32 players.The MSG series was all about story, so it needed games to tell all the story. And never were more than 2 msg games using same engine.
Well the story for MSG4 is over.
PSP peace walker will be a prequel in a handheld just for fans, as was the older psp msg game was. Cant really be said is milking since handhelds always got things like that.
I do think the multiplat spin of is kinda too much. But since is a new gameplay and new engine and even new hero, it is ok if they dont strech.
I know little about Halo ODST and HALO reach, if they are both like expansion and cash in, then would be milking. But as of halo 1,2,3 and halo wars I dont consider miliking.
But C'mon, if halo OSDT be almost the same as halo 3, and even uses halo 3 multiplayer withouth any improvement that was worth a sequel. It is milking.
And if the story is bland, we can sure call cash in, since the whole point of ODST was to show the other side of the batle.
And now they even charging $60. And I do belive Halo3/ODST and reach will be same engine one same generation and on same console.
C'mon.... think about.
Unless reach try to be impressive like killzone 2 was and brings a revamped engine that offer some new gameplay ideas. Perhaps is time also we see a halo with 60 players like resistence, Well at least 32 is needed.
ropumar
MGS hasnt changed gameplay much? Has TC even played MGS games? because its pretty clear that there was a MAJOR...let me repeat that...MAJOR gameplay changes from MGS3 to MGS4. OverTheShoulder camera? Full 3D camera? Viability of gunplay? MGS practically added another genre to the mix with MGS4, while Halo has remained largely unchanged unless you want to use spin-offs like Halo Wars in your arguments in which case we'll have to bring up MGS AC!D.II_Seraphim_IIAll the MGS games have changed their gameplay from their predecessor. MGS2 brought first-person aiming, soumersaulting, hold-ups, wall-hanging, and more interaction with the environment to the series. MGS3 brought CQC, knife combat, a camoflauge/face paint system, and a healing system to the series. Subsistence, the release of MGS3: Snake Eater, brought a detachable third-person behind-the-back camera as well. And of course, MGS4 gave us what the above poster just mentioned. All of the MGS games have changed and mixed up gameplay a lot; in MGS1 and MGS2, the emphasis was on hiding behind walls in an urban, industrial setting; MGS3 was about disguising yourself and using the environment to your advantage in a jungle setting; and MGS4 changed everything entirely by giving us a true blend of stealth and action in an explosive war zone.
why create a new account just to post this?
anyway, just because the MGS story is too complex for you doesnt mean you should have the incentive to group other people with your lack of understanding. MGS's story is better than Halo's, no contest. im not gonna argue that MGS's online is better than halo's because it most definately isnt, but unlike halo MGS mainy focuses on the single player. and you said there was no support for its online after it was released, which is wrong, they've released several expansions such as the meme, gene and scene expansions which added both new maps and playable characters.
and btw, every game is reviewed on initial impressions, so its stupid of you to say MGS4 scored high because of this and didnt look at every aspect, because i can say the same about every halo game.
Stop calling every sequel milking, it's getting really old. The only games being milked are Call of Duty and Guitar HeroToriko42yeah this, i think if modern warfare 2 turns out to be modern warfare .5 then we can safely assume that treyarch will produce the same game with a different skin. that would be 4 of the same game in 4 years. we would probably have to wait out the gen until they actually make enough changes. it may turn into the new madden of shooters. if modern warfare 2 makes enough new changes to make it really feel like a proper sequel then i wouldn't mind the milking of call of duty on the infinity ward side. as for guitar hero they need to quit it, guitar hero 5 is just some new songs, and hardly any (if any) new gameplay changes i don't see the point. they are releasing smash hits with the same songs fro guitar hero 1 and 2 and charging $60, why not just play guitar hero 1 and 2. they'll burn it out and it'll be dead by next gen if they don't change it up.
No actually. Think before you post. Oh, and dont be so silly as to include a damn map pack, maybe you won't look so ridiculous next time.Umm, lets see.
Halo, Halo 2, Halo 2 map packs on disc form (you had to pay for that) Halo CE, Halo 3, Halo 2 Vista, Halo 3 map packs, Halo Wars, Halo Wars map pack, Halo: ODST, Halo Reach. And thats not milking?
clyde46
[QUOTE="clyde46"]No actually. Think before you post. Oh, and dont be so silly as to include a damn map pack, maybe you won't look so ridiculous next time. Ok, even if you take away the map packs, it still more than the OP's theory of the Metal Gear series.Umm, lets see.
Halo, Halo 2, Halo 2 map packs on disc form (you had to pay for that) Halo CE, Halo 3, Halo 2 Vista, Halo 3 map packs, Halo Wars, Halo Wars map pack, Halo: ODST, Halo Reach. And thats not milking?
-DrRobotnik-
Neither Halo nor MGS are being milked IMO because they are still good. :DUmm, lets see.
Halo, Halo 2, Halo 2 map packs on disc form (you had to pay for that) Halo CE, Halo 3, Halo 2 Vista, Halo 3 map packs, Halo Wars, Halo Wars map pack, Halo: ODST, Halo Reach. And thats not milking?
clyde46
[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"][QUOTE="clyde46"]No actually. Think before you post. Oh, and dont be so silly as to include a damn map pack, maybe you won't look so ridiculous next time. Ok, even if you take away the map packs, it still more than the OP's theory of the Metal Gear series.Umm, lets see.
Halo, Halo 2, Halo 2 map packs on disc form (you had to pay for that) Halo CE, Halo 3, Halo 2 Vista, Halo 3 map packs, Halo Wars, Halo Wars map pack, Halo: ODST, Halo Reach. And thats not milking?
clyde46
ORLY?
And i won't include the numerous MGS re-releases, remakes or the MG cellphone ports and so on. And no, im not trying to argue that the MGS franchise is milked, i don't think either series is but i hate hyprocrisy.
Ok, even if you take away the map packs, it still more than the OP's theory of the Metal Gear series.[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"] No actually. Think before you post. Oh, and dont be so silly as to include a damn map pack, maybe you won't look so ridiculous next time. -DrRobotnik-
ORLY?
And i won't include the numerous MGS re-releases, remakes or the MG cellphone ports and so on. And no, im not trying to argue that the MGS franchise is milked, i don't think either series is but i hate hyprocrisy.
ok, evidence has been delieved. I will conced.Stop calling every sequel milking, it's getting really old. The only games being milked are Call of Duty and Guitar HeroToriko42Don't forget Naruto, Zelda, and Dragon Ball.
Ok, even if you take away the map packs, it still more than the OP's theory of the Metal Gear series.[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"] No actually. Think before you post. Oh, and dont be so silly as to include a damn map pack, maybe you won't look so ridiculous next time. -DrRobotnik-
ORLY?
And i won't include the numerous MGS re-releases, remakes or the MG cellphone ports and so on. And no, im not trying to argue that the MGS franchise is milked, i don't think either series is but i hate hyprocrisy.
in a way the numbers are prolly bout right for a series on the go from the 1980's aswell and if its a rereleased with minimal or just a straight over port i usually dont count it unless its been totally reworked and revameped :P.But when you look at MGS its average is bout maybe a game every year and a bit.
Who cares both sell boatloads and are loved by critics and gamers alike.
[QUOTE="Toriko42"]Stop calling every sequel milking, it's getting really old. The only games being milked are Call of Duty and Guitar Heronintendoboy16Don't forget Naruto, Zelda, and Dragon Ball. I was gonna defend Zelda, but when you have a billion games with the same story....one has to wonder "Whats the difference between Zelda and Guitar Hero?" I guess Zelda gets a pass, because it does have some minor gameplay changes :? But yeah, naruto and especially DB have been abused like no other :(
i agree, but Halo ports were included so i included mgs ports. Either way i dont care, but series's are brilliant.^ kinda weak adding ports into the mix. Remakes sure (like the GC MGS) but not ports .
II_Seraphim_II
[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]i agree, but Halo ports were included so i included mgs ports. Either way i dont care, but series's are brilliant. Ah ok, I agree that Halo isnt being milked and neither is MGS. They could make 100 more as long as they are good.^ kinda weak adding ports into the mix. Remakes sure (like the GC MGS) but not ports .
-DrRobotnik-
Metal Gear
Metal Gear: Solid Snake
MGS
MGS: VR Missions
MGS2
MGS3
MGS4
MGS4 iPhone
Metal Gear AC!D
Metal Gear AC!D 2
Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops
Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops +
MGS: The Twin Snakes
Metal Gear Solid: Rising
Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker
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No doubt.
The MSG series was all about story, so it needed games to tell all the story. And never were more than 2 msg games using same engine.
Well the story for MSG4 is over.
PSP peace walker will be a prequel in a handheld just for fans, as was the older psp msg game was. Cant really be said is milking since handhelds always got things like that.
I do think the multiplat spin of is kinda too much. But since is a new gameplay and new engine and even new hero, it is ok if they dont strech.
I know little about Halo ODST and HALO reach, if they are both like expansion and cash in, then would be milking. But as of halo 1,2,3 and halo wars I dont consider miliking.
But C'mon, if halo OSDT be almost the same as halo 3, and even uses halo 3 multiplayer withouth any improvement that was worth a sequel. It is milking.
And if the story is bland, we can sure call cash in, since the whole point of ODST was to show the other side of the batle.
And now they even charging $60. And I do belive Halo3/ODST and reach will be same engine one same generation and on same console.
C'mon.... think about.
Unless reach try to be impressive like killzone 2 was and brings a revamped engine that offer some new gameplay ideas. Perhaps is time also we see a halo with 60 players like resistence, Well at least 32 is needed.
Your sig is full of win.I nearly made it 24HRS without seeing yetanother sad individiual. Creating new accounts on a gaming website in an attempt to make a game series look bad looks pretty pathetic.Someone pleasehelp this person find the light & lead him out of the dark hole of miserable worthlessness he/she has found themselves trapped within. Others can hold the torch, but only you can follow.
shawn7324
A level 1 with 1 post that is a wall of text and he act like he has been here for awhile now. yea this isn't and alt account. :roll:
MGS is a much older series than Halo and its been on handhelds, it would make sense to have more games. The only thing is that MGS isnt being milked on consoles, they always come out 2 or 3 years after the previous one unlike how Halo will have 4 console games in 3 years. Nonstop-Madness
and isn't MGS having 3 games in 3 years? include the other PSP games and its had what? 5 games this gen already?
neither franchise is being miliked in the slightest.
MGS is a much older series than Halo and its been on handhelds, it would make sense to have more games. The only thing is that MGS isnt being milked on consoles, they always come out 2 or 3 years after the previous one unlike how Halo will have 4 console games in 3 years. Nonstop-Madness
MGS has more games over any amount of time than Halo.
[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]MGS is a much older series than Halo and its been on handhelds, it would make sense to have more games. The only thing is that MGS isnt being milked on consoles, they always come out 2 or 3 years after the previous one unlike how Halo will have 4 console games in 3 years. Mr_Apple_Soup
and isn't MGS having 3 games in 3 years? include the other PSP games and its had what? 5 games this gen already?
neither franchise is being miliked in the slightest.
MGS1 - 1998
MGS2 - 2001
MGS3 - 2004
MGS4 - 2008
MGSR - 2010 or 2011
Halo 3 - 2008
Halo Wars - 2009
Halo ODST - 2009
Halo Reach - 2010
[QUOTE="Mr_Apple_Soup"]
[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]MGS is a much older series than Halo and its been on handhelds, it would make sense to have more games. The only thing is that MGS isnt being milked on consoles, they always come out 2 or 3 years after the previous one unlike how Halo will have 4 console games in 3 years. Nonstop-Madness
and isn't MGS having 3 games in 3 years? include the other PSP games and its had what? 5 games this gen already?
neither franchise is being miliked in the slightest.
MGS1 - 1998
MGS2 - 2001
MGS3 - 2004
MGS4 - 2008
MGSR - 2010 or 2011
Halo 3 - 2008
Halo Wars - 2009
Halo ODST - 2009
Halo Reach - 2010
Let me help ya out there. You're missing some Metal Gear installments...
Metal Gear
Metal Gear: Solid Snake
MGS
MGS: VR Missions
MGS2
MGS3
MGS4
MGS4 iPhone
Metal Gear AC!D
Metal Gear AC!D 2
Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops
Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops +
MGS: The Twin Snakes
Metal Gear Solid: Rising
Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker
[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]
MGS has more games over any amount of time than Halo.
BioShockOwnz
[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]MGS is a much older series than Halo and its been on handhelds, it would make sense to have more games. The only thing is that MGS isnt being milked on consoles, they always come out 2 or 3 years after the previous one unlike how Halo will have 4 console games in 3 years. BioShockOwnz
MGS has more games over any amount of time than Halo.
I think it's safe to say the EA sports franchise has that[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]
[QUOTE="Mr_Apple_Soup"]
and isn't MGS having 3 games in 3 years? include the other PSP games and its had what? 5 games this gen already?
neither franchise is being miliked in the slightest.
BioShockOwnz
MGS1 - 1998
MGS2 - 2001
MGS3 - 2004
MGS4 - 2008
MGSR - 2010 or 2011
Halo 3 - 2008
Halo Wars - 2009
Halo ODST - 2009
Halo Reach - 2010
Let me help ya out there. You're missing some Metal Gear installments...
Metal Gear
Metal Gear: Solid Snake
MGS
MGS: VR Missions
MGS2
MGS3
MGS4
MGS4 iPhone
Metal Gear AC!D
Metal Gear AC!D 2
Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops
Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops +
MGS: The Twin Snakes
Metal Gear Solid: Rising
Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker
okay ...... MG = 15 games in 23 years (w/ handheld, and mobile games), Halo = 6 games in 9 years (without handheld and mobile games)Ok lets say that the MG franchise gets milked at least we know that every time Kojima releases a new MGS game it nothing like its predecessor.
MGS3 didnt use the same engine from MGS2, most MGS games use a new engine. Overall he produces high quality stuff.
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