Metal Gear Solid 4 AI

In real life, yes. But gaming is a whole nother story.
Mr_lulz

I think Sony and Microsoft are applying the same rules though. If you've got goals set-in-stone (i.e not floating around in your head), you're more likely to get out of your way to achieve them. Perhaps they believe it will increase the longevity of games if they give you something to work for, no matter how geeky it looks.

[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

All I know is that you can beat the game without dying on the lower 2 difficulties.

thrones

I beat it on Solid Normal without dieing, no alerts and no kills.

:D

Nice :D. My bro did so as well. He's working on getting the Big Boss Emblem.

Hehe, the A.i hasnt always been known for being amazing in the series but the thing is that its smart in its own ways. Its hard to describe but being that its a stealth game, (and good ol Kojima) its A.i will do alot of things that other games dont have them do. Like I said though its really bad being mgs but really good because its mgs.

....Confusing mgs A.I is, young one :P

You serious? I thought the AI was the best out of any game i've played so far.Haku_Ryushi

[QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"]You serious? I thought the AI was the best out of any game i've played so far.Juggernaut140

[QUOTE="jonesy1911"][QUOTE="mingo123"]

the A.I is probably on the same level as Kojimas intelligence

Episode_Eve

:lol: Yeah... I think the "MGS4 has bad A.I." argument should be over now.

:lol: yea, so should the "The MGS Series has good writing" argument :P

You serious? I thought the AI was the best out of any game i've played so far.Haku_Ryushi

[QUOTE="3XRatedlocc"]

It's a great game but the AI is really bad.

I'm a man of few words, any questions?

Episode_Eve

No it's not. What dificulty are you playing one? Play on "Big Boss" dificulty the AI is much better.

- Enemies spot you from very far away
- Damage taken is much greater
- Enemies hear even the slightest of footsteps
- Enemy patterns are different almost every time, so there's really no remembering them.
- Enemies are just smarter and more agressive.

You must have been playing on Normal or Easy. If you want a death wish play on "The Boss Extreme" :).

They can see you from like 20 feet away if you drop below 70% camo. If they're within 4-5 feet they can see you pretty regularly if you're below 80% camo and sometimes even above 80% camo.

They flank, often run all the way around you in a pack to catch you off guard (and they destroy you at that difficulty mode). In a full confrontation, and I've tried this a lot (on accident since its so easy to get spotted), I can kill no more than maybe a half dozen if I'm using cover, and I am VERY good at spotting and nailing headshots on a consistent basis with high camo. Trying Boss Extreme to get the perfect run is seriously a lesson in testing Hideo Kojima's temper. It is a beatdown. If I get in a locker, they walk straight at it with teammates in stow and check every one....they usually get the exact one you're hiding in the instant they walk by it. They send patrols to observe every nook and cranny for the entire duration of the caution/evasion phases and they use cover/flanking/grenades to clear you out. I've never lasted more than maybe 1-2 minutes in a full gunfight with these guys, even when pulling out all the stops.

They also follow footprints, are superhumanly aware of every footstep you make in their vicinity...

[QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"]You serious? I thought the AI was the best out of any game i've played so far.DarkGamer007

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]The AI is really good. I guess I don't agree.
Adrian_Cloud

It's a great game but the AI is really bad.

I'm a man of few words, any questions?

[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"][QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"]You serious? I thought the AI was the best out of any game i've played so far.Animal-Mother

play it on the hardest difficulty. then the ai is some of the best ive ever seen. they see you from across a map even at varying heights. blues35301

The AI on the Boss Extreme is so good, it's bad. It seems like they can see through walls.Jigsaw9798

a lot of people seem to think that good AI = high difficulty.

That is not true. They are separate. The difficulty in MGS4 is variable. The AI is top notch imo. Enemies seem lifelike, they get startled when you blow your cover, and if you do something just slightly suspicious they will investigate the disturbance with caution and curiousity. In combat, they seek cover and will get to you if you don't get moving.

There are moments where they seem to give up chases too early and they don't have good memories, but those limitations are what allow Snake to act like a spy and are well planned by the developers.

[QUOTE="Jigsaw9798"]The AI on the Boss Extreme is so good, it's bad. It seems like they can see through walls.longshotgir

... and that doesn't happen in the game.

a lot of people seem to think that good AI = high difficulty.

That is not true. They are separate. The difficulty in MGS4 is variable. The AI is top notch. Enemies seem lifelike, they get startled when you blow your cover, and if you do something just slightly suspicious they will investigate the disturbance with caution and curiousity. In combat, they seek cover and will get to you if you don't get moving.

There are moments where they seem to give up chases too early and they don't have good memories, but those limitations are what allow Snake to act like a spy and are well planned by the developers.

[QUOTE="blues35301"]play it on the hardest difficulty. then the ai is some of the best ive ever seen. they see you from across a map even at varying heights. longshotgir

[QUOTE="longshotgir"][QUOTE="Jigsaw9798"]The AI on the Boss Extreme is so good, it's bad. It seems like they can see through walls.Mordred19

... and that doesn't happen in the game.

[QUOTE="longshotgir"][QUOTE="blues35301"]play it on the hardest difficulty. then the ai is some of the best ive ever seen. they see you from across a map even at varying heights. blues35301

[QUOTE="blues35301"][QUOTE="longshotgir"] That's not good AI, that's cheating, just like enemies with ridiculous auto-aim and that always know here you are.longshotgir

[QUOTE="longshotgir"][QUOTE="blues35301"] no its not. its more realstic. if you saw a guy in a blue sneaking suit a street 100 yards away and you knew he was the enemy you'd go for him right? thats what they do. on the easy difficulties they dont see you til theyre like 10 feet in front of you. you've just been softened up by games with easy ai.blues35301

The AI is easy to fool in the lower difficulty levels, but definitely not in Big Boss Hard and The Boss Extreme.Lab392

[QUOTE="blues35301"][QUOTE="longshotgir"] That's not good AI, that's cheating, just like enemies with ridiculous auto-aim and that always know here you are.longshotgir

[QUOTE="longshotgir"][QUOTE="blues35301"] no its not. its more realstic. if you saw a guy in a blue sneaking suit a street 100 yards away and you knew he was the enemy you'd go for him right? thats what they do. on the easy difficulties they dont see you til theyre like 10 feet in front of you. you've just been softened up by games with easy ai.blues35301

[QUOTE="Lab392"]The AI is easy to fool in the lower difficulty levels, but definitely not in Big Boss Hard and The Boss Extreme.Phazevariance

This is so not true. I've beaten it in every single difficulty and it seems like you're playing it on normal. They would just stand there if you're not noticed though, that's a given. Why would they run around aimlessly if you're not noticed? Higher difficulties, especially big boss extreme, you would have no chance "walking up to them". Even in Big Boss hard, you can't just walk up to them without being noticed unless they're lone patrolmen and even then you must crouch walk but that's very risky. Well anyways, from what it sounds like, you only reached the first act or second act after playing it all weekend long.

lol people should play the game in BigBoss Hard mode and then judge the AI....

try upping the difficultyup a level, its much harder on hard or extreme difficulty

[QUOTE="longshotgir"][QUOTE="blues35301"] no its not. its more realstic. if you saw a guy in a blue sneaking suit a street 100 yards away and you knew he was the enemy you'd go for him right? thats what they do. on the easy difficulties they dont see you til theyre like 10 feet in front of you. you've just been softened up by games with easy ai.BobHipJames

Maybe you should try a harder difficulty, like THE BOSS EXTREME, for example?