Metal Gear Solid 4 is the lowest rated MGS of all time

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#1 Tony-Harrison
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Metal Gear Solid 2 is the 20th highest rated game of all time.
Metal Gear Solid is the 47th highest rated game of all time.
Metal Gear Solid 3 is the 63rd highest rated game of all time.
Finally, Metal Gear Solid 4 is the 69th highest rated game of all time.

Just to place things into a very real perspective. link

In my opinion this does count for fodder on System Wars.

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#2 studley1989
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i hate you
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#3 Tony-Harrison
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i hate youstudley1989

Eh, I'm just saying it like it is.

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#4 TruestGamer
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just to put things in a very real perspective:

Most anticipated Wii game - Mushroom Men: The Spore Wars

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#5 the-very-best
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What exactly did Sony do to you?

MGSIV is a great game. If you could just get past the fact that it's on the PS3 and give it a chance, you might be pleased.

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#6 Tony-Harrison
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just to put things in perspective:

Most anticipated Wii game - Mushroom Men: The Spore Wars

TruestGamer

That's *my* most anticipated Wii game, yes.

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#7 clembo1990
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I enjoyed it. Thread hath failed at making me hate MGS4.
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#8 the-very-best
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just to put things in perspective:

Most anticipated Wii game - Mushroom Men: The Spore Wars

TruestGamer

lol! Well played.

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#9 clembo1990
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[QUOTE="TruestGamer"]

just to put things in perspective:

Most anticipated Wii game - Mushroom Men: The Spore Wars

Tony-Harrison

That's *my* most anticipated Wii game, yes.

Well that category is very open ended as the quality of up-'n-coming wii games this year is on par with the bodywork of a Lada.

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#10 Tony-Harrison
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This thread has absolutely nothing to do with my opinion.
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#11 sam280992
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Metal Gear Solid 2 is the 20th highest rated game of all time.
Metal Gear Solid is the 47th highest rated game of all time.
Metal Gear Solid 3 is the 63rd highest rated game of all time.
Finally, Metal Gear Solid 4 is the 69th highest rated game of all time.

Just to place things into a very real perspective. link

Tony-Harrison

What is this supposed to prove?

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#12 Kez1984
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Uh, so what?
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#13 Tony-Harrison
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What is this supposed to prove?

sam280992

For the purpose of System Wars, that Metal Gear Solid 4 is the lowest rated MGS game of all time.

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#14 clembo1990
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By the way, make a point! Otherwise you are breaking the rules, read the sticky!!!!

You must provide an opinion!

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#15 angelkimne
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Well it's definetely not the worst one of them all :)

IMO at least.

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#16 SolidGame_basic
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The problem with that argument is that the earlier games already set the precedent for later ones which makes it harder to rate higher. Same thing with Soul Calibur 4, which obviously is better than Soul Calibur but Soul Calibur was new back then, and 4 wasn't that innovative except for online.
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#17 Tony-Harrison
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By the way, make a point! Otherwise you are breaking the rules, read the sticky!!!!

You must provide an opinion!

clembo1990

This thread makes a point based on facts that is open for discussion, so it doesn't need baseless opinions.

Read the sticky.

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#18 cutmaclass1
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It is as it should be. MGS4 is really only as good as the other Metal Gear games. It does me heart good to see that the statistics support that claim.
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#19 stvee101
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Metal Gear Solid 2 is the 20th highest rated game of all time.
Metal Gear Solid is the 47th highest rated game of all time.
Metal Gear Solid 3 is the 63rd highest rated game of all time.
Finally, Metal Gear Solid 4 is the 69th highest rated game of all time.

Just to place things into a very real perspective. link

Tony-Harrison

But its the highest scoring MGS game ever on GS.Aren't GS's scores all that matter on these forums?

I like the way people pick and choose whatever scores suit their own bias.

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#20 clembo1990
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[QUOTE="clembo1990"]

By the way, make a point! Otherwise you are breaking the rules, read the sticky!!!!

You must provide an opinion!

Tony-Harrison

This thread makes a point based on facts that is open for discussion, so it doesn't need baseless opinions.

Read the sticky.

Opinions can be baseless its called ignorance and its permitted even if not desirable. You need to provide your opinion so there can be some discussion, otherwise you are spamming us with irrelevant information.

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#21 sam280992
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[QUOTE="sam280992"]What is this supposed to prove?

Tony-Harrison

For the purpose of System Wars, that Metal Gear Solid 4 is the lowest rated MGS game of all time.

Well for the purpose of System Wars, We only use Gamespot scores for its status... And it got a ten...

It stings doesn't it?

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#22 LEGEND_C4A
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Metal Gear Solid 2 is the 20th highest rated game of all time.
Metal Gear Solid is the 47th highest rated game of all time.
Metal Gear Solid 3 is the 63rd highest rated game of all time.
Finally, Metal Gear Solid 4 is the 69th highest rated game of all time.

Just to place things into a very real perspective. link

In my opinion this does count for fodder on System Wars.

Tony-Harrison

as long as fans enjoy the fourth one, who cares really? a fan will always be a fan. I can only imagine how much PS3 fans who have played all the games are losing their minds playing part 4! good for them! :D

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#23 Tony-Harrison
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[QUOTE="Tony-Harrison"][QUOTE="sam280992"]What is this supposed to prove?

sam280992

For the purpose of System Wars, that Metal Gear Solid 4 is the lowest rated MGS game of all time.

Well for the purpose of System Wars, We only use Gamespot scores for its status... And it got a ten...

It stings doesn't it?

Not really. Realistically very few people use Gamespot as their sole provider of reviews. In the real world, Super Mario Galaxy is the second highest ranked game of all time by reviewers, and Metal Gear Solid 4 is sixty ninth.

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#24 -DrRobotnik-
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MGS3>MGS4>MGS1>MGS2 imo
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#25 clembo1990
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In my opinion this does count for fodder on System Wars.

Tony-Harrison

It has just enough relevance to constitute a thread. Well done.

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#26 LEGEND_C4A
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The problem with that argument is that the earlier games already set the precedent for later ones which makes it harder to rate higher. Same thing with Soul Calibur 4, which obviously is better than Soul Calibur but Soul Calibur was new back then, and 4 wasn't that innovative except for online.SolidGame_basic

good damn point!

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#27 angelkimne
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[QUOTE="sam280992"][QUOTE="Tony-Harrison"][QUOTE="sam280992"]What is this supposed to prove?

Tony-Harrison

For the purpose of System Wars, that Metal Gear Solid 4 is the lowest rated MGS game of all time.

Well for the purpose of System Wars, We only use Gamespot scores for its status... And it got a ten...

It stings doesn't it?

Not really. Realistically very few people use Gamespot as their sole provider of reviews. In the real world, Super Mario Galaxy is the second highest ranked game of all time by reviewers, and Metal Gear Solid 4 is sixty ninth.

Sad, isn't it.
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#28 EmilioDigsIt
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Doesn't it have to do with there being more review sites/magazines that dilute the final score at the end?
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#29 Huff
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Doesn't it have to do with there being more review sites/magazines that dilute the final score at the end?EmilioDigsIt
More reviews should give you a better sample than a few reviews. If you have a lot of reviews, one bad review by a fansite can't really screw the whole average
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#30 EmilioDigsIt
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[QUOTE="EmilioDigsIt"]Doesn't it have to do with there being more review sites/magazines that dilute the final score at the end?Huff
More reviews should give you a better sample than a few reviews. If you have a lot of reviews, one bad review by a fansite can't really screw the whole average



Then why is it rated so low? I thought reviewers were throwing out 10s left and right.
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#31 asylumni
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Just to place things into a very real perspective. link

In my opinion this does count for fodder on System Wars.

Tony-Harrison

Interesting theory, but wholly untrue.

1.Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty PS2 Konami 72 8.6 94.806% 2.Metal Gear Solid PS Konami 32 9.1 93.469% 3.Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence PS2 Konami 68 8.8 92.857% 4.Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots PS3 Konami 71 8.6 92.714% 5.Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater PS2 Konami 92 8.9 91.457% 6.Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops PSP Konami 61 8.7 86.503% 7.Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance XBOX Konami 61 8.4 86.484% 8.Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes GC Konami 72 8.8 85.486% 9.Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance PS2 Konami 44 8.6 85.470% 10.Metal Gear Solid PC Konami 20 8.6 85.050%
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#32 mistervengeance
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that's fantastic. a lot of reviewers downplayed points that really didn't need to be downplayed IMO, but it's still the best MGS game.
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#33 SSJ_Nega
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I'm surprised MGS2 is the highest, as i thought it was the worst.

This topic doesn't leave much up for discussion.

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#34 LEGEND_C4A
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Doesn't it have to do with there being more review sites/magazines that dilute the final score at the end?EmilioDigsIt

it can go both ways really

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#35 EmilioDigsIt
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I'm surprised MGS2 is the highest, as i thought it was the worst.

This topic doesn't leave much up for discussion.

SSJ_Nega

I actually thought it was the best. :(
It was MGS all over again but bigger and better.
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#36 Tony-Harrison
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[QUOTE="SolidGame_basic"]The problem with that argument is that the earlier games already set the precedent for later ones which makes it harder to rate higher. Same thing with Soul Calibur 4, which obviously is better than Soul Calibur but Soul Calibur was new back then, and 4 wasn't that innovative except for online.LEGEND_C4A

good damn point!

Not really. Soul Calibur 4 isn't nearly as good as Soul Calibur was.

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#37 diped
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The other ones were better for obvious reasons to anyone who has acaully played them all.

People just overlooked how badly done this one was compared to previous installments because of the prettier graphic.
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#38 SSJ_Nega
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[QUOTE="SSJ_Nega"]

I'm surprised MGS2 is the highest, as i thought it was the worst.

This topic doesn't leave much up for discussion.

EmilioDigsIt


I actually thought it was the best. :(
It was MGS all over again but bigger and better.

Don't get me wrong. I love the series, and i love the game. I just thought the others were better.

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#39 Tony-Harrison
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Interesting theory, but wholly untrue.asylumni

Remakes and spin-offs don't count! :lol:

I'm talking about the main series. But if you need to unload the dumpster truck in order to make your fanboyish point then who am I to stop you?

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#40 LEGEND_C4A
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[QUOTE="LEGEND_C4A"]

[QUOTE="SolidGame_basic"]The problem with that argument is that the earlier games already set the precedent for later ones which makes it harder to rate higher. Same thing with Soul Calibur 4, which obviously is better than Soul Calibur but Soul Calibur was new back then, and 4 wasn't that innovative except for online.Tony-Harrison

good damn point!

Not really. Soul Calibur 4 isn't nearly as good as Soul Calibur was.

well, I love this game. so we are back to square one. but I still agree with tony harrison.

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#41 NAPK1NS
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Do you really think I care what a series of digits say? It was the best game I've ever played - damn the scores.

By the way... Mushroom Men? Really?

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#42 Tony-Harrison
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[QUOTE="Tony-Harrison"][QUOTE="LEGEND_C4A"]

[QUOTE="SolidGame_basic"]The problem with that argument is that the earlier games already set the precedent for later ones which makes it harder to rate higher. Same thing with Soul Calibur 4, which obviously is better than Soul Calibur but Soul Calibur was new back then, and 4 wasn't that innovative except for online.LEGEND_C4A

good damn point!

Not really. Soul Calibur 4 isn't nearly as good as Soul Calibur was.

well, its debatle I guess, I love this game. so we are back to square one. but I still agree with tony harrison.

It's not debatable! None of the Soul Calibur sequels have lived up to the glory of the original Soul Calibur.

I can't think of any reason why anyone would want to debate it.

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#43 Tony-Harrison
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By the way... Mushroom Men? Really?NAPK1NS

Mushroom Men looks like an awesome platformer.

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[QUOTE="LEGEND_C4A"][QUOTE="Tony-Harrison"][QUOTE="LEGEND_C4A"]

[QUOTE="SolidGame_basic"]The problem with that argument is that the earlier games already set the precedent for later ones which makes it harder to rate higher. Same thing with Soul Calibur 4, which obviously is better than Soul Calibur but Soul Calibur was new back then, and 4 wasn't that innovative except for online.Tony-Harrison

good damn point!

Not really. Soul Calibur 4 isn't nearly as good as Soul Calibur was.

well, its debatle I guess, I love this game. so we are back to square one. but I still agree with tony harrison.

It's not debatable! None of the Soul Calibur sequels have lived up to the glory of the original Soul Calibur.

I can't think of any reason why anyone would want to debate it.

That's my point, hence a lower score....

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#45 Tony-Harrison
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[QUOTE="Tony-Harrison"][QUOTE="LEGEND_C4A"][QUOTE="Tony-Harrison"][QUOTE="LEGEND_C4A"]

[QUOTE="SolidGame_basic"]The problem with that argument is that the earlier games already set the precedent for later ones which makes it harder to rate higher. Same thing with Soul Calibur 4, which obviously is better than Soul Calibur but Soul Calibur was new back then, and 4 wasn't that innovative except for online.SolidGame_basic

good damn point!

Not really. Soul Calibur 4 isn't nearly as good as Soul Calibur was.

well, its debatle I guess, I love this game. so we are back to square one. but I still agree with tony harrison.

It's not debatable! None of the Soul Calibur sequels have lived up to the glory of the original Soul Calibur.

I can't think of any reason why anyone would want to debate it.

That's my point, hence a lower score....

The same can be said for Metal Gear Solid 4.

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MGS4 is underscored by the masses imo.(compared to some other recent games)

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#47 Tony-Harrison
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MGS4 is underscored by the masses imo.(compared to some other recent games)

Nike_Air

That's a fair enough opinion.

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[QUOTE="SolidGame_basic"][QUOTE="Tony-Harrison"][QUOTE="LEGEND_C4A"][QUOTE="Tony-Harrison"][QUOTE="LEGEND_C4A"]

[QUOTE="SolidGame_basic"]The problem with that argument is that the earlier games already set the precedent for later ones which makes it harder to rate higher. Same thing with Soul Calibur 4, which obviously is better than Soul Calibur but Soul Calibur was new back then, and 4 wasn't that innovative except for online.Tony-Harrison

good damn point!

Not really. Soul Calibur 4 isn't nearly as good as Soul Calibur was.

well, its debatle I guess, I love this game. so we are back to square one. but I still agree with tony harrison.

It's not debatable! None of the Soul Calibur sequels have lived up to the glory of the original Soul Calibur.

I can't think of any reason why anyone would want to debate it.

That's my point, hence a lower score....

The same can be said for Metal Gear Solid 4.

Review wise, yes. But in the end, MGS4 & SC4 > their originals gameplay wise.

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[QUOTE="LEGEND_C4A"][QUOTE="Tony-Harrison"][QUOTE="LEGEND_C4A"]

[QUOTE="SolidGame_basic"]The problem with that argument is that the earlier games already set the precedent for later ones which makes it harder to rate higher. Same thing with Soul Calibur 4, which obviously is better than Soul Calibur but Soul Calibur was new back then, and 4 wasn't that innovative except for online.Tony-Harrison

good damn point!

Not really. Soul Calibur 4 isn't nearly as good as Soul Calibur was.

well, its debatle I guess, I love this game. so we are back to square one. but I still agree with tony harrison.

It's not debatable! None of the Soul Calibur sequels have lived up to the glory of the original Soul Calibur.

I can't think of any reason why anyone would want to debate it.

oh sorry, I agreed with the wrong person, anyway, I love the game so it doesnt matter which one is better, its what I said in an earlier post, if you like the game thats all that matters, but I do agree with who ever I was trying to agree with in the first place, its hard for a sequal to get the same love as the first that started the series.

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#50 SpruceCaboose
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It got a 10 here, no?