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#1 halo_wars86
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i am sick of hearing this new thing at system wars. "metal gear solid graphics are overrated or they are not even hd bla bla bla".

metal gears solid graphics are the best and i find them on par with killzones and even better. name me 1 i mean ONE console game that is on par with metal gears solid graphics.

some will say killzone i say killzone is dark and isnt a graphical show case for me since the DARK there is no day level to see the proper graphics.

gears of war looks good but sorry metal gear solid just looks better PERIOD.

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uncharted comes close to metal gear solid 4 but still not as good. well uncharted 2 is looking to beat it in the graphical department but untill then i see nothing that is as good as mgs4.

so plz im getting pissed at people that are saying metal gear solid graphics are overrated , need i remind u it was 2008 BEST graphical game BBEESSTT.

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Hm, cool.
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#3 SolidTy
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It is a REMARKABLE looking game, and pretty much all GAMING MAGS/SITES agree with you.

KZ2 looks better though. Still, MGS4 is a LOOKER, fo sho.

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#4 Swift_Boss_A
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MGS4 is easily one of the best looking games I have seen this gen. Image time :D

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#5 pyromaniac223
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MGS4 definitely is one of the better looking console games this gen, but I find that it's rather overhyped here. It has plenty of horrible textures and effects, plus some framerate issues. Still a looker though.
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#6 surrealnumber5
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i am sick of hearing this new thing at system wars. "metal gear solid graphics are overrated or they are not even hd bla bla bla".

metal gears solid graphics are the best and i find them on par with killzones

halo_wars86
no one needs to read past this part of his post. the best cant be on par with anything as it is the best and i do not agree that they are the best but if you cant make a proper OP.........
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Looks pretty good for a black and white game.
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I'm actually dissapointed that MGS4 was the first PS3 game I played. Because after that a lot of the other games looked like dirt to me. Also, since this is a topic about MGS4 I want to know if it's strange that I never had heard of MGS4 untill I got it last year for Christmas (it came free with my PS3.) It was such a shock to me. I never played a game like it before. NEVER. And now I'm probably the biggest Metal Gear fan on the topic.

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I'm actually dissapointed that MGS4 was the first PS3 game I played. Because after that a lot of the other games looked like dirt to me. Also, since this is a topic about MGS4 I want to know if it's strange that I never had heard of MGS4 untill I got it last year for Christmas (it came free with my PS3.) It was such a shock to me. I never played a game like it before. NEVER. And now I'm probably the biggest Metal Gear fan on the topic.

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Yeah, it was pretty fresh, and a hell of a lot of fun. I played through it four times before I got tired of it. And I NEVER replay games until years later.
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#10 aaronmullan
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Indeed it does look amazing. Obviously current games look better, but it was one of the best of 2008.
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#11 mitu123
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Act 2 had the worst looking environments in the game IMO, they weren't bad but not amazing. Every other act looked awesome though.

But the character models owns most games this gen.:D

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I'm actually dissapointed that MGS4 was the first PS3 game I played. Because after that a lot of the other games looked like dirt to me. Also, since this is a topic about MGS4 I want to know if it's strange that I never had heard of MGS4 untill I got it last year for Christmas (it came free with my PS3.) It was such a shock to me. I never played a game like it before. NEVER. And now I'm probably the biggest Metal Gear fan on the topic.

brickdoctor
I envy you, I lost my Metal Gear cherry back with MGS1, I remember being so amazed, never played anything like it. I lub MGS.
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#13 jasonharris48
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MGS4 is a very great looking game. I just don't see how people say it has the best story ever told in a video game though. The story in MGS4 doesn't even measure up to the stories in MGS2,MGS3 and MGS1 IMO of course.

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#14 navyguy21
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It is a REMARKABLE looking game, and pretty much all GAMING MAGS/SITES agree with you.

KZ2 looks better though. Still, MGS4 is a LOOKER, fo sho.

SolidTy

the motorcycle chase sequence looked better than KZ2 IMO though

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#15 imaps3fanboy
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Lol, and 360 fans think they're getting this game xD

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#16 mitu123
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Lol, and 360 fans think they're getting this game xD

imaps3fanboy

They're fanboys, of course they'll think that.:P

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I think its a great game. BUt Killzone 2 happens to look better, but its also newer. I also find that in my personal tastes, Uncharted looks better than MGS4. But again, thats my opinion, as im more drawn in by the colors, and the tropical setting as to a gritty, grayish war scence. but both are top notch
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I'm a huge Metal Gear fan and all, but I'm disturbed that no one's bringing up how awful the peripheral textures in this game are. The character models and "moving parts" if you will were amazing, but when you look closely at background textures.... it's all so ugly. Like GTAIV ugly. Oblivion had better background textures.
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#19 Longcat2
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Hmmm I agree with TC, I see lots of people saying MGS4's graphics aren't that great but personally I think they're excellent. Not the graphics king, but still very good.

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I'm a huge Metal Gear fan and all, but I'm disturbed that no one's bringing up how awful the peripheral textures in this game are. The character models and "moving parts" if you will were amazing, but when you look closely at background textures.... it's all so ugly. Like GTAIV ugly. Oblivion had better background textures.cutmaclass1

all my friends own either a 360 or a combo wii60 i happen to be the only one to get a ps360 and when i showed them killzone they where impressed but when i showed mgs4 they where extremely impressed the game looks amazing on a big screen it is just plain amazing to look at,

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#21 Hanass
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Those screens don't help your claim a lot. I have the game, and the everything that has anything to with visuals are TERRIBLE. From textures to environment, from framerate to character models, from physics to animations, terrible, terrible, terrible. The only thing that's not making me trade in the game is the gameplay and story. But other than that, the graphics are not bashed enough in real world because they are horrid and disgusting.

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"need i remind u it was 2008 BEST graphical game BBEESSTT."

*sigh* And that is the very reason why a lot won't take this seriously -- including me.

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#23 Hanass
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Please don't start that "bbbuuttt it won 2008 grafix award" because Crysis Warhead should of won it by a landslide if Kojima hadn't paid Gamespot.

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Please don't start that "bbbuuttt it won 2008 grafix award" because Crysis Warhead should of won it by a landslide if Kojima hadn't paid Gamespot.

Hanass
Yeah, where was it proven that Kojima paid off GS
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[QUOTE="Hanass"]

Please don't start that "bbbuuttt it won 2008 grafix award" because Crysis Warhead should of won it by a landslide if Kojima hadn't paid Gamespot.

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Yeah, where was it proven that Kojima paid off GS

where was it proven that MS paid for anything other than GTA DLC?? Yet fanboys like to shout it like its true.
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Please don't start that "bbbuuttt it won 2008 grafix award" because Crysis Warhead should of won it by a landslide if Kojima hadn't paid Gamespot.

Hanass

a graphical masterpiece does not mean more resolution it means that the game look amazing in general like metal gear solid. the enviroments are amazing it is just breath taking to look at and that s not counting the gameplay.

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#27 mitu123
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Those screens don't help your claim a lot. I have the game, and the everything that has anything to with visuals are TERRIBLE. From textures to environment, from framerate to character models, from physics to animations, terrible, terrible, terrible. The only thing that's not making me trade in the game is the gameplay and story. But other than that, the graphics are not bashed enough in real world because they are horrid and disgusting.

Hanass

I think you're spoiled by Crysis.:P

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#28 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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I think you're spoiled by Crysis.:P

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Who wouldn't be after seeing this? :P

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#29 Hanass
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[QUOTE="Hanass"]

Those screens don't help your claim a lot. I have the game, and the everything that has anything to with visuals are TERRIBLE. From textures to environment, from framerate to character models, from physics to animations, terrible, terrible, terrible. The only thing that's not making me trade in the game is the gameplay and story. But other than that, the graphics are not bashed enough in real world because they are horrid and disgusting.

mitu123

I think you're spoiled by Crysis.:P

You got that right. :)

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[QUOTE="Hanass"]

Please don't start that "bbbuuttt it won 2008 grafix award" because Crysis Warhead should of won it by a landslide if Kojima hadn't paid Gamespot.

WadeFan

Yeah, where was it proven that Kojima paid off GS

It's not, I'm just making an assumption. Either way Gamespot is biased, and I don't care how.

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#31 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Hanass"]

Those screens don't help your claim a lot. I have the game, and the everything that has anything to with visuals are TERRIBLE. From textures to environment, from framerate to character models, from physics to animations, terrible, terrible, terrible. The only thing that's not making me trade in the game is the gameplay and story. But other than that, the graphics are not bashed enough in real world because they are horrid and disgusting.

Hanass

I think you're spoiled by Crysis.:P

You got that right. :)

After seeing what Stevo_the_gamer posted, I can see why, I never played that game, shame on me.

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#32 Hanass
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[QUOTE="Hanass"]

Please don't start that "bbbuuttt it won 2008 grafix award" because Crysis Warhead should of won it by a landslide if Kojima hadn't paid Gamespot.

halo_wars86

a graphical masterpiece does not mean more resolution it means that the game look amazing in general like metal gear solid. the enviroments are amazing it is just breath taking to look at and that s not counting the gameplay.

If you're implying that MGS4 looks better than Crysis, then mega-facepalm. MGS4 looks like Half Life 2 to be honest. Maybe a tad better, but not by much.

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#33 applefan1991  Moderator
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[QUOTE="WadeFan"][QUOTE="Hanass"]

Please don't start that "bbbuuttt it won 2008 grafix award" because Crysis Warhead should of won it by a landslide if Kojima hadn't paid Gamespot.

navyguy21
Yeah, where was it proven that Kojima paid off GS

where was it proven that MS paid for anything other than GTA DLC?? Yet fanboys like to shout it like its true.

You said the Kojima paid GS. I never said MS paid for exclusives, so you have no point
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[QUOTE="Hanass"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] I think you're spoiled by Crysis.:P

mitu123

You got that right. :)

After seeing what Stevo_the_gamer posted, I can see why, I never played that game, shame on me.

it's not your fault. not everyone can afford a $5000 rig :P

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[QUOTE="WadeFan"][QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="WadeFan"] Yeah, where was it proven that Kojima paid off GS

where was it proven that MS paid for anything other than GTA DLC?? Yet fanboys like to shout it like its true.

You said the Kojima paid GS. I never said MS paid for exclusives, so you have no point

i didnt say anything lol. Anyway, i know kojima didnt pay GS, but i was just pointing out the notion that cows on GS think MS buys every exclusive and good review, and for some reason, system wars has adopted that notion.
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#36 Hanass
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Hanass"]

You got that right. :)

Mr_Apple_Soup

After seeing what Stevo_the_gamer posted, I can see why, I never played that game, shame on me.

it's not your fault. not everyone can afford a $5000 rig :P

See what hermits mean by "Pc has the most ignorance spread"? There you have it. Mine's not even worth $700 with a cheap dual core and a measly graphics card, and I can max Crysis with 4X AA + the mods, which makes it look even better...

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Those screens don't help your claim a lot. I have the game, and the everything that has anything to with visuals are TERRIBLE. From textures to environment, from framerate to character models, from physics to animations, terrible, terrible, terrible. The only thing that's not making me trade in the game is the gameplay and story. But other than that, the graphics are not bashed enough in real world because they are horrid and disgusting.

Hanass
You need to try a little harder. The game won best graphics at a ton of very respected game publications.
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[QUOTE="Mr_Apple_Soup"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] After seeing what Stevo_the_gamer posted, I can see why, I never played that game, shame on me.

Hanass

it's not your fault. not everyone can afford a $5000 rig :P

See what hermits mean by "Pc has the most ignorance spread"? There you have it. Mine's not even worth $700 with a cheap dual core and a measly graphics card, and I can max Crysis with 4X AA + the mods, which makes it look even better...

I...I don't even know why i even make jokes here anymore...

Maybe I'm just not a funny person :(

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#39 Hanass
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You need to try a little harder. The game won best graphics at a ton of very respected game publications.Eddie-Vedder

Did you even bother reading the other posts? This game looks terrible - FACT. MGS4 won because Consolespot is biased. This can't be more true because Crysis Warhead was released in 2008 as well. People think it looks good just because of the hype and the stupid award that I think is < facts.

You need to try harder, not me. I gave some irrefutable facts about the visuals, and all you did was bring up some biased opinion of someone else.

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#40 pyromaniac223
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[QUOTE="Hanass"]

Those screens don't help your claim a lot. I have the game, and the everything that has anything to with visuals are TERRIBLE. From textures to environment, from framerate to character models, from physics to animations, terrible, terrible, terrible. The only thing that's not making me trade in the game is the gameplay and story. But other than that, the graphics are not bashed enough in real world because they are horrid and disgusting.

Eddie-Vedder
You need to try a little harder. The game won best graphics at a ton of very respected game publications.

So you agree with these publications, that MGS4 has better technical graphics than Crysis? Don't get me wrong, MGS4 has great graphics, but those awards were just another example of gaming "journalism" jumping on board the hype train.
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Umm, it had good character models, aside from the faces looking very plasticy. The environments though, were pretty poor.
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#42 Hanass
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halo_wars86

How can you honestly think that looks remotely good? Snake has like 2 polygons, the smoke on the right side is a joke, ans the buildings are all perfect squares.

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#43 Renzokucant
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MGS4 and KZ2 are two amazing looking games that are just of different styles is all. the way i think of it, ITS ALL GOOD if you got to own um both

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#44 ___gamemaster__
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yes no one can deny that MGS4 is one of the best looking game this gen.. but so is KZ2, Uncharted and gears.

But IMO.. uncharted DF>KZ2>>MGS4=Gears2

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#45 MegajerkNYC
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Anyone who says gears 2 looks better then MGS4 is disrespecting the human race.

ALL IN GAME:

Vs.

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Eww. Look at those low rez textures.

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I think Resident Evil 5 looks better.
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#47 Longcat2
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I honestly don't see where all the hate is coming from. I really feel MGS 4's graphics are some of the best this gen (and I'm not a cow, far from it).

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#48 navyguy21
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Anyone who says gears 2 looks better then MGS4 is disrespecting the human race.

ALL IN GAME:

Vs.


Eww. Look at those low rez textures.

MegajerkNYC

See, i was with you until that gears pic, thats just pure fanboyism there. I admit, MGS4 has to be PLAYED to be appreciated, but that gears pic is no better than people posting "selective" pics of MGS4, uncharted, or killzone 2.

What gears REALLY looks like :) REALLY!

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I love MGS4 and I definitely think its the best game the gen but graphically its 2nd only to KZ2.
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#50 mitu123
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MegajerkNYC, why do you keep posting that terrible screenshot of Gears 2, this is a better pic:

And since you posted a low res shot, I'll do the same for MGS4, though it's only for the lulz:P: