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hahahah pretty much...nothing special nowNot really I have a PS3 I'd rather play it in 3d. mediocre 3d over hd, trophies, improved audio, two analogue sticks and TWO OTHER GAMES (mgs2 and mgspw)?[QUOTE="campzor"][QUOTE="The_RedLion"]the mgs hd collection rendered this game obsoletejdc6305
[QUOTE="jdc6305"]Not really I have a PS3 I'd rather play it in 3d. mediocre 3d over hd, trophies, improved audio, two analogue sticks and TWO OTHER GAMES (mgs2 and mgspw)?[QUOTE="campzor"] hahahah pretty much...nothing special nowThe_RedLion
Are you trying to put him off buying the game altogether as what theyre both offering is poor.
the mgs hd collection rendered this game obsoleteThe_RedLionNot really, someone might want this for the 3D and/or the 3D specific features. Alternatively, they might want to play this on a handheld, or they might now own the system(s) the HD collection is coming out for. I will agree that the existence of the HD collection renders the status of this game as a former system seller for the 3DS obsolete though.
[QUOTE="The_RedLion"][QUOTE="jdc6305"]Not really I have a PS3 I'd rather play it in 3d.
mediocre 3d over hd, trophies, improved audio, two analogue sticks and TWO OTHER GAMES (mgs2 and mgspw)?Are you trying to put him off buying the game altogether as what theyre both offering is poor.
thee mgs collection is a great deal this isnt[QUOTE="jdc6305"]Not really I have a PS3 I'd rather play it in 3d. mediocre 3d over hd, trophies, improved audio, two analogue sticks and TWO OTHER GAMES (mgs2 and mgspw)?I don't find the 3ds visualsmediocre. I like the 3d effect it different. I've played street fighter on the PS3 and on the 3ds I didn't see much of a difference visualy. I'm rather board of my PS3 at the moment.[QUOTE="campzor"] hahahah pretty much...nothing special nowThe_RedLion
But the 3DS has 3D as well as improved textures over the HD and original version. The only thing console users have is higher resolution and a few other non-graphical features. Your still stuck with the with the same old textures
the hd collection will also have improved texturesBut the 3DS has 3D as well as improved textures over the HD and original version. The only thing console users have is higher resolution and a few other non-graphical features. Your still stuck with the with the same old textures
Crystal-Rush
[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"][QUOTE="The_RedLion"] mediocre 3d over hd, trophies, improved audio, two analogue sticks and TWO OTHER GAMES (mgs2 and mgspw)?The_RedLion
Are you trying to put him off buying the game altogether as what theyre both offering is poor.
thee mgs collection is a great deal this isntYou keep telling people myths of things being "Great" when in actual fact it isnt. Theyre both not worth buying if own / played the games already.
There will be another HD release in several years time making this collection redundant with a new MGS game and 3DS variation isnt looking to different from the PSP variation which makes that redundant.
Same goes for Cr-a-p-Com with RE4 port upon the HD Twins. Its not worth buying and people who do have more money than common sense.
[QUOTE="Crystal-Rush"]the hd collection will also have improved texturesoh ok i didn't know that. That's good for the people who wanted it for the consoles, but i'm still gonna get the 3DS version though, and the HD collection for the other 2But the 3DS has 3D as well as improved textures over the HD and original version. The only thing console users have is higher resolution and a few other non-graphical features. Your still stuck with the with the same old textures
The_RedLion
[QUOTE="The_RedLion"][QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]
Are you trying to put him off buying the game altogether as what theyre both offering is poor.
thee mgs collection is a great deal this isntYou keep telling people myths of things being "Great" when in actual fact it isnt. Theyre both not worth buying.
There will be another HD release in several years time making this collection redundant with a new MGS game and 3DS variation isnt looking to different from the PSP variation which makes that redundant.
Same goes for Cr-a-p-Com with RE4 port upon the HD Twins. Its not worth buying and people who do have more money than common sense.
so your opinion about it not being great means its a myth? sorry, but no this collection features THREE high rated games, in hd, with improved textures, with achievements and other nice stuff its great[QUOTE="BigBoss255"]So this will have real cut scenes and not lame ass moving drawings?.charizard1605Yes. Good. I'll definitely get a 3DS for this or Zelda. It's a bit weird that 2 versions of MGS3 are coming out but I'm guessing this version will be pretty different from the original.
the mgs hd collection rendered this game obsoleteThe_RedLionNo, not really.
[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"][QUOTE="The_RedLion"] thee mgs collection is a great deal this isntThe_RedLion
You keep telling people myths of things being "Great" when in actual fact it isnt. Theyre both not worth buying.
There will be another HD release in several years time making this collection redundant with a new MGS game and 3DS variation isnt looking to different from the PSP variation which makes that redundant.
Same goes for Cr-a-p-Com with RE4 port upon the HD Twins. Its not worth buying and people who do have more money than common sense.
so your opinion about it not being great means its a myth? sorry, but no this collection features THREE high rated games, in hd, with improved textures, with achievements and other nice stuff its greatI agree its a great deal,for new and old fans alike.
so your opinion about it not being great means its a myth? sorry, but no this collection features THREE high rated games, in hd, with improved textures, with achievements and other nice stuff its greatThe_RedLion
It's a petty rip-off, if it's not a new engine and doesn't have worthwile new content. What are those other stuff anyway? I might change my mind.
I guess i've ben spoiled by modding old games to look like current generation games, for free. Its a shame Sony relinquished their backward compatability and didn't support it to the fullest, i would have had a reason to buy a PS3, and could have sold my PS2.
so your opinion about it not being great means its a myth? sorry, but no this collection features THREE high rated games, in hd, with improved textures, with achievements and other nice stuff its great[QUOTE="The_RedLion"][QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]
You keep telling people myths of things being "Great" when in actual fact it isnt. Theyre both not worth buying.
There will be another HD release in several years time making this collection redundant with a new MGS game and 3DS variation isnt looking to different from the PSP variation which makes that redundant.
Same goes for Cr-a-p-Com with RE4 port upon the HD Twins. Its not worth buying and people who do have more money than common sense.
stvee101
I agree its a great deal,for new and old fans alike.
Yes if its platnium collection from day one and sells for £20. Anything more than that then "NO".
so your opinion about it not being great means its a myth? sorry, but no this collection features THREE high rated games, in hd, with improved textures, with achievements and other nice stuff its great[QUOTE="The_RedLion"][QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]
You keep telling people myths of things being "Great" when in actual fact it isnt. Theyre both not worth buying.
There will be another HD release in several years time making this collection redundant with a new MGS game and 3DS variation isnt looking to different from the PSP variation which makes that redundant.
Same goes for Cr-a-p-Com with RE4 port upon the HD Twins. Its not worth buying and people who do have more money than common sense.
Dibdibdobdobo
So in other words you are shelling out for a port which you have played already. Thats hilarious, friggin hilarious. Yes they might be great games but you are still getting ripped off which isnt a "MYTH" its "FACT" as Konami are doing a Capcom with rereleasing everything under the sun and hoping idiots buy it again and again and again and again and again.... Give it couple years and there be a better collection released.
Achievements are a joke, improved textures add nothing to gameplay, HD doesnt improve gameplay so why add such trivial things to a argument is pathetic. None of those are big enough reasons to buy a old game.
stop telling people Myths of great things when you wouldnt know a great thing if it hit you like a Freight Train.
first, the only game ive played of the three is mgs3, so that's two new games for me. don't make fun of people when you don't even know themgraphics dont add to the gameplay, but as a matter of fact they add to the EXPERIENCE, so it's a good thing
achievements arent a joke, people love them. if you dont, well, you dont
bottom line, its great, a lot of mgs fans are excited, its great value (three games) and the games are great no one is forcing you to get it, so let us enjoy it :)
first, the only game ive played of the three is mgs3, so that's two new games for me. don't make fun of people when you don't even know them yes, graphics dont add to the gameplay, but as a matter of fact they add to the EXPERIENCE, so it's a good thing achievements arent a joke, people love them. if you dont, well, its not my business, is it? bottom line, its great, a lot of mgs fans are excited, its great value (three games) and the games are great no one is forcing you to get it, so let us enjoy it :)The_RedLion
What has kept you from buying the trilogy then.. they are all so cheap to get these days. I've bought them all recently, and i think MGS 1 is one of the best games of all times, wile MG2, wile being fantastic did not live up to what masterpiece the original is. I'm half way trough MGS3, and so far, so good, i like seeing who Big Boss really was.
You should get MGS1 if you are even interested in the series, the story and characters is the height of the series, up until now, from what i have played.
And the music tracks in the original are .. perfection.
The only MGS i didn't like. The camera angles killed the game for me.
mattuk69
i'm guessing you didn't play the upgraded version of the game (subsistence or something like that? lol) it mapped the camera to the right analog stick and allowed you to control the camera
HUGE improvement
People are talking about the hd collection making this game worthless, but wasn't MGS3 3D supposed to be a remake?
It looked that way a year ago, however this trailer looks pretty much exactly like PS2 graphics engine for the game. That is disapointing. I hope we hear more, better things, from this game next week.
I think I will purchase this.
I already played MGS3 on the PS2 and I still might purchase the MGS HD Collection but only for Peace Walker since that is the only one I didn't play yet.
The gameplay of MGS3 is by far the worst. It's the amazing story that makes all the pain worthwhile.The only MGS i didn't like. The camera angles killed the game for me.
mattuk69
hahahah pretty much...nothing special nowNot really I have a PS3 I'd rather play it in 3d. Not really, i have a ps3, 360 and i much rather play this on the big screen with a normal control.[QUOTE="campzor"][QUOTE="The_RedLion"]the mgs hd collection rendered this game obsoletejdc6305
mediocre 3d over hd, trophies, improved audio, two analogue sticks and TWO OTHER GAMES (mgs2 and mgspw)?[QUOTE="The_RedLion"][QUOTE="jdc6305"]Not really I have a PS3 I'd rather play it in 3d.
Dibdibdobdobo
Are you trying to put him off buying the game altogether as what theyre both offering is poor.
what you smoking.
$40 for 3 games
$40 for 1 game.
If anything what they are offering with MGS3D is poor and mediocre.Besides MGS2 is infinetly better and then theres peace walker which was godly.
the mgs hd collection rendered this game obsoleteThe_RedLionEh. Not really. As much as I harp on the 3DS, this game still intrigues me. Any fan of the game should be at least somewhat interested all the gameplay features they added and the updated graphics and the... dare I say it.... 3D. :P
You may have appreciated Subsistence then. It had a player controlled camera. :)The only MGS i didn't like. The camera angles killed the game for me.
mattuk69
[QUOTE="jdc6305"]Not really I have a PS3 I'd rather play it in 3d. mediocre 3d over hd, trophies, improved audio, two analogue sticks and TWO OTHER GAMES (mgs2 and mgspw)?[QUOTE="campzor"] hahahah pretty much...nothing special nowThe_RedLion
The just uped the resolution on that and they don't look that good at all.. What I saw from MGS2 it looks exactly the same... Where as MGS3 on 3ds has completely redone visuals with new models, textures.. and there is going to be new content in it as well.
Lol looks worse than the ps2 version and significantly worse than the BS prerendered video shown last year. Just admit it that the 3ds is at a PSP tech level at best. 250 bucks for a 7 year old tech, pathetic. runbleduckAre you trolling?
[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]
[QUOTE="The_RedLion"] so your opinion about it not being great means its a myth? sorry, but no this collection features THREE high rated games, in hd, with improved textures, with achievements and other nice stuff its greatThe_RedLion
So in other words you are shelling out for a port which you have played already. Thats hilarious, friggin hilarious. Yes they might be great games but you are still getting ripped off which isnt a "MYTH" its "FACT" as Konami are doing a Capcom with rereleasing everything under the sun and hoping idiots buy it again and again and again and again and again.... Give it couple years and there be a better collection released.
Achievements are a joke, improved textures add nothing to gameplay, HD doesnt improve gameplay so why add such trivial things to a argument is pathetic. None of those are big enough reasons to buy a old game.
stop telling people Myths of great things when you wouldnt know a great thing if it hit you like a Freight Train.
first, the only game ive played of the three is mgs3, so that's two new games for me. don't make fun of people when you don't even know themgraphics dont add to the gameplay, but as a matter of fact they add to the EXPERIENCE, so it's a good thing
achievements arent a joke, people love them. if you dont, well, you dont
bottom line, its great, a lot of mgs fans are excited, its great value (three games) and the games are great no one is forcing you to get it, so let us enjoy it :)
Contradiction FTW. You told someone theyre pretty much buying garbage in comparison to this collection. So dont come here telling me to do things when you dont know people yourself and tell them what to like. Fact is your buying a repackaged product of something which is already on the market and has been for several years just because it adds some little gimmicks and is in HD just like how the 3DS version adds the gimmick of 3D.
No. Its the same experience. Its not adding anything to the immersion or any of this crud which people keep yelping. A good game is going to be good whether its in HD or SD and if you are paying too much attention to how pretty the Leaves on the Flowers look in HD then you should be playing a Leaf Simulation Game rather than actual games.
Achievements are the biggest load of turd this gen. You are going to waste money upon achievements lol!! Wouldnt it be much more of a achievement to play and finish the games which you can do now than wait for a such a trivial thing like killing 20 people by sneaking up on them or maybe getting 10 cats to urinate on your box. Wow your friends can see'em ONLIn3Z .... Whoopeee!!
Bottom line its not great deal (Anything over £20) but if you prefer the denial route and it helps you sleep better at night then thats fine with me. How can you speak for MGS fans when you are not one when you havent even played the games, dont speak for other people. Yes 3 games so what about the rest of the MGS series?! Is there gonna be another collection out for them after this ?! Hmmm... Sounds like a money milking scheme to me. No one is forcing me and i never said it wasnt good series.
Yeah, it seems like while the HD collection is mostly just about remastering the game graphically, the 3DS version is focused more on gameplay refinement. Plus, we still know barely anything about this game.
I am totally looking forward to Snake vs. Yoshi mode
mediocre 3d over hd, trophies, improved audio, two analogue sticks and TWO OTHER GAMES (mgs2 and mgspw)?[QUOTE="The_RedLion"][QUOTE="jdc6305"]Not really I have a PS3 I'd rather play it in 3d.
VendettaRed07
The just uped the resolution on that and they don't look that good at all.. What I saw from MGS2 it looks exactly the same... Where as MGS3 on 3ds has completely redone visuals with new models, textures.. and there is going to be new content in it as well.
Did you even see the latest video and screenshots for the 3ds version? It looks worse than the ps2 version, a downport in fact. The footage they released last year was a complete lie.[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"][QUOTE="The_RedLion"] mediocre 3d over hd, trophies, improved audio, two analogue sticks and TWO OTHER GAMES (mgs2 and mgspw)?runbleduck
The just uped the resolution on that and they don't look that good at all.. What I saw from MGS2 it looks exactly the same... Where as MGS3 on 3ds has completely redone visuals with new models, textures.. and there is going to be new content in it as well.
Did you even see the latest video and screenshots for the 3ds version? It looks worse than the ps2 version, a downport in fact. The footage they released last year was a complete lie.Troll confirmed. It beats the PS2 version in every way.
the mgs hd collection rendered this game obsoleteThe_RedLion
MGS3DS actually has new assets. The guys at KP actually went in there to remodel and retexture a lot of the game, plus we may see a bit of new content.
The new HD collection is a lazy port.
I probably wont be buying either, but as a guy who has played Snake Eater and Subsistence over 50 times I'd pick the 3ds version.
[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"][QUOTE="The_RedLion"] mediocre 3d over hd, trophies, improved audio, two analogue sticks and TWO OTHER GAMES (mgs2 and mgspw)?runbleduck
The just uped the resolution on that and they don't look that good at all.. What I saw from MGS2 it looks exactly the same... Where as MGS3 on 3ds has completely redone visuals with new models, textures.. and there is going to be new content in it as well.
Did you even see the latest video and screenshots for the 3ds version? It looks worse than the ps2 version, :lol: noPlease Log In to post.
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