Metal Gear Solid V Discussion Thread | A Hideo Kojima Game

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#451  Edited By AnthonyAutumns
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@Bread_or_Decide said:
@freedomfreak said:

Ugh, this mission.

Extracting a bunch of kids. All is going well. Find out one kid got stuck in geometry. The enemy following us shows up and kills him. **** this escorting nonsense.

Game is fetish heavy with that.

I failed that mission trying to get them all into the helicopter. Enemy attacked and killed one. It's not until way later, when you don't need it, that you get a fulton for extracting children.

You know what? I cleared the mines and the surrounding areas before I went and rescued the kids. Had no problems with that mission.

The thing that made me do an andrenaline rush was the Subsistence: Occupational Forces. Yeah, it's the mission where you destroy/kill two TT77 and a commander driving a truck between the two tank. The only differece with the earlier mission is that it's an OSP (on-site procurement) mission meaning no ITEMS/WEAPONS/BUDDY/AERIAL SUPPORT except your equipped fulton, bionic arm, and your loaded Helicopter setting. What I did was a Hot Drop on their base, rescue the prisoner near the hot LZ, go to the intel and read it, and finally intercepted the 3 vehicles. I was lucky enough to encounter two soldiers on the road. I knocked them out then wait for the tanks to stop and siren those two stunned soldiers. Meanwhile, I fultoned all the three of vehicles undetected while they stopped. I finished it as S and 7/7 in one go.

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#452  Edited By AnthonyAutumns
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@with_teeth26: If you just collected the Delivery Point In-voices, you won't have trouble travelling during Free-Roam. Of course, you need to have the infamous Camouflage Boxes with you.

Oh, you can also use the Delivery Point to exfiltrate the area.

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#453  Edited By StrongDeadlift
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So is anybody else following the whole "ruse cruise" theory crowd over at the r/Neverbegameover subreddit, who think that Kojima is trolling everybody, and that what everyone thinks is the ending is not the ending? They're the ones who datamined the PC version of the game and found the title card for Chapter 3: Peace" and some of them (and I do include myself in this) believe that Episode 51: Kingdom of the Flies and Chapter 3: Peace are still in the game, and will be made available at a certain time.

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#454  Edited By Gue1
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@StrongDeadlift:

it makes sense because the true ending of the game is in there but at the very moment it's literally impossible to unlock since the game it's literally unfinished. The true ending has already been leaked by the data miners but that's the only way to obtain it. And then today Konami started talking about DLC which seems to point out that the final Chapter will be delivered through DLC and if this turns out to be true this will easily be the biggest scam of the generation and possibly of the history of this industry.

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#455  Edited By Bread_or_Decide
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@Gue1 said:

@StrongDeadlift:

it makes sense because the true ending of the game is in there but at the very moment it's literally impossible to unlock since the game it's literally unfinished. The true ending has already been leaked by the data miners but that's the only way to obtain it. And then today Konami started talking about DLC which seems to point out that the final Chapter will be delivered through DLC and if this turns out to be true this will easily be the biggest scam of the generation and possibly of the history of this industry.

Wait so...Mission 46 is not the true ending? I haven't seen it yet but it's called "TRUTH" how could it not be the true ending?

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#456 LadyBlue
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@Gue1 said:

@StrongDeadlift:

it makes sense because the true ending of the game is in there but at the very moment it's literally impossible to unlock since the game it's literally unfinished. The true ending has already been leaked by the data miners but that's the only way to obtain it. And then today Konami started talking about DLC which seems to point out that the final Chapter will be delivered through DLC and if this turns out to be true this will easily be the biggest scam of the generation and possibly of the history of this industry.

Lol that tittle belongs to Mighty no 9. Q_Q some more for me.

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#457 2mrw
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No ending can compensate for the mess that MGS5 is. The game is flawed at fundamental level.

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#458 ConanTheStoner
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Finally saw the end of this game last night, after a whopping 100 hours of play.

The inherent stupid factor of MGS lore aside, that wasn't bad at all. This past month I've struggled to avoid spoilers, but I kept seeing people bitch and moan about retcons. Learn what a retcon is plz. If anything, this game managed to patch up a lot of the huge inconsistencies in the series. In some ways (final ending + final tapes) even manages smooth out the cluster **** that was "MGS3's support team is the Patriots!" garbage that was introduced in MGS4. At the very least it solved my issues with Zero.

The only real issue I see is that a lot of Big Boss's final monologue from MGS4 is now even more fucking stupid which I did not think was possible.

Yes, new plot holes have been introduced, but they're relatively minor compared to what the series was already working with.

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#459 verbalfilth
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What does System Wars think of my review of the game? It took a while to put together but I finally finished it last night.

Any criticism will be met with extreme retaliation -- retaliation of appreciation, that is. lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm58lLkAW1s

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#460 KHAndAnime
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Having a hard time pushing myself through this. First MGS game I've played where it feels like I'm grinding instead of naturally progressing through a story. And the story is already so stupid that I find it really hard to care about it.

The challenge is non-existent so I pretty much have to create my own challenge. But when it comes to this I don't really feel like I'm playing a game, as much as roleplaying. I get to pat myself on the back when I get good grades on a mission, but I really miss the fun of picking my difficulty and facing a challenge.

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#461 Bread_or_Decide
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90 hours...saw the true ending...50% complete.

I'm so tired I can't even form an opinion on the twist. I'm sort of relieved it's finally over.

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#462  Edited By Bread_or_Decide
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@ConanTheStoner said:

Finally saw the end of this game last night, after a whopping 100 hours of play.

The inherent stupid factor of MGS lore aside, that wasn't bad at all. This past month I've struggled to avoid spoilers, but I kept seeing people bitch and moan about retcons. Learn what a retcon is plz. If anything, this game managed to patch up a lot of the huge inconsistencies in the series. In some ways (final ending + final tapes) even manages smooth out the cluster **** that was "MGS3's support team is the Patriots!" garbage that was introduced in MGS4. At the very least it solved my issues with Zero.

The only real issue I see is that a lot of Big Boss's final monologue from MGS4 is now even more fucking stupid which I did not think was possible.

Yes, new plot holes have been introduced, but they're relatively minor compared to what the series was already working with.

Now we know how Big Boss came back for Metal Gear 2. The double dies in the first game. Possibly set up by the real big boss. This is how he's still alive for Zanzibar in MG2.

100 hours to fix this ONE inconsistency...I dunno lol.

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#463 StrongDeadlift
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#464 sandbox3d
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The update is live.

Also just played what I found to be the most enjoyable mission yet. And it's one of the rehashes, mission 49. Subsistence mode is surprisingly fun. It forced me to play outside of my comfort zone using tactics and weapons I never touched. Really challenging too. I know people would have been crying for days, but I think the game would have been better off if they just said screw all development and load outs and just made the game on site procurement for everything.

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#465 2mrw
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@verbalfilth said:

What does System Wars think of my review of the game? It took a while to put together but I finally finished it last night.

Any criticism will be met with extreme retaliation -- retaliation of appreciation, that is. lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm58lLkAW1s

great n funny. liked it a lot and you highlighted the major issues in very sarcastic ways. It is a shame really for this game to end like that.

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#466 Bread_or_Decide
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@jg4xchamp said:
@anthonyautumns said:

Sorry for the no spolier back... but then again it's ~3weeks since launch.

Anyways...

@JangoWuzHere:

I'm still waiting for Quiet to return after the "A Quiet Exit" mission...

And yeah, I can easily fiddle with .ini files in my game but I'm still waiting for her to officially return.

Replay mission 11, and do some stuff, and boom.

Serious?

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#467 Suppaman100
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@verbalfilth said:

What does System Wars think of my review of the game? It took a while to put together but I finally finished it last night.

Any criticism will be met with extreme retaliation -- retaliation of appreciation, that is. lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm58lLkAW1s

Funny review man.

Agree with most of the stuff you said. Video is a bit too long though.

So do you feel dissapointed as a mgs fan?

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#468 verbalfilth
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@2mrw:

Thanks man. I appreciate you taking the time to check it out.

Yeah, the game was lacking on many aspects. Its a shame what happened to kojima and konami. We might never see another mgs game with kojima's involvement.

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#469  Edited By verbalfilth
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@Suppaman100:

Sorry im using my cell at work so i missed your post when replying to the other one.

Thnks for the feedback. Im glad you liked it.

As an mgs fan...extremely disappointed. To be honest with you i felt like quiting at the 20 hr mark but a sense of obligation and a desire to complete the story was the only thing that kept me going. Now that im done with it, I honestly dont want to go back to it. Its all a repetitive chore and having tight and improved gameplay mechanics could't save it for me.

Can't wait to try mgo though...

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@Bread_or_Decide said:
@jg4xchamp said:

Replay mission 11, and do some stuff, and boom.

Serious?

I think this only works on the PC or one of the versions, I read on gaf that

You can bring Quiet back after mission 45, as opposed to losing her period. Personally I never did mission 45 specifically because I wanted to keep her around when I go for an S-rank run.

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#471 Suppaman100
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@verbalfilth said:

@Suppaman100:

Sorry im using my cell at work so i missed your post when replying to the other one.

Thnks for the feedback. Im glad you liked it.

As an mgs fan...extremely disappointed. To be honest with you i felt like quiting at the 20 hr mark but a sense of obligation and a desire to complete the story was the only thing that kept me going. Now that im done with it, I honestly dont want to go back to it. Its all a repetitive chore and having tight and improved gameplay mechanics could't save it for me.

Can't wait to try mgo though...

I'm in the same boat as you.

MGSV was a dissapointment, mostly because it was clearly unfinished...

And continue making videos man, you have a nice style, I'm sure you could be big if you'd make more videos.

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#472 A-new-Guardian
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50% completed. didn't know i have to finish the optional missions that are included with the main episodes so i am redoing them and getting progress.

much prefer DD because he marks everything quickly and finds enemies for me fast and distracts them when they are close. Quiet is over powered because of the Cover Me command option. she destroys everyone and does not allow you to do anything. with quiet the game is on very easy mode and she takes too long to scout an area. but she is very helpful with tranq.

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#473  Edited By Gue1
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@a-new-guardian:

soon the enemies will start wearing helmet, shields, body armor, riot suits and there will be so many snipers around that Quiet will get owned easily if you aren't quick enough. She's pretty useless for most if not every Extreme difficulty missions.

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#474 GameboyTroy
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Can you post some gameplay footage?

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#475 mjorh
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BOOBS = Tactical Advantage !

Seriously WTF? Lmao

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#476  Edited By Gue1
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data miners found a new cut-scene that is related to the ending about nuclear bomb disarmament but that there is no way to trigger through normal means, not even after beating the game with 100%.

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#477  Edited By freedomfreak
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MGonline is alright.

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#478 Shinobishyguy
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Reached chapter 2 and yeah.... you can tell this was the part in the game's development where Kojima was halfway out the door

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#479  Edited By AnthonyAutumns
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That freaking Rank7 AM MRS-73 NL sniper rifle... If not for Mosquito's base(which you can grind Purperea and Lutea safely without counterattacks), I probably nerd raged.

P.S. If you're wondering what I'm talking about it's this:

That 1680(Purperea) + 420(Lutea) Digitalis requirement.
That 1680(Purperea) + 420(Lutea) Digitalis requirement.
And this... fucking 20k Precious Metal.
And this... fucking 20k Precious Metal.
LOL There's also 1 more 20k requirement.
LOL There's also 1 more 20k requirement.

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#480 A-new-Guardian
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Damn it Konami

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#481  Edited By GameboyTroy
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Has anyone seen this scene with Quiet? You'll like what you see.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qvJx0p2eu4

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#482 freedomfreak
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Yeah, **** the grinding aspect of this game. Bad enough I finally get to build something, but then it throws an in-game timer at my face.

Really is work.

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I'm starting to have moments of flat out boredom when it comes to stealthing every single thing. It's exciting at first but has already become glacial with the plethora of repetitious side missions.

So I've turned to combat which leads for some good times. Enemies are stupid, but you take enough damage to stay honest. The only thing is the open world really doesn't allow a level of cadence in the combat like other games with (smaller) sandboxes do, like Halo 3. Here you can literally run circles around enemies and abuse line of sight. I fear to think how being even stronger later on will change my opinion.

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#484 StrongDeadlift
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Really sucks that I barely used quiet during the game (as the horse and dog were more usefull), so I didnt get any of the infamous quiet scenes. I maxed her out at the last minute to get quiets ending, but i missed all of her cutscenes, the shower scene, the water scene, etc.

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#485 whalefish82
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I was skeptical about this game because I really didn't enjoy GZ (felt too much like a demo to warrant playing through more than once) but I took the plunge the other day and I'm really liking it so far.

I'm only near the end of the Honey Bee mission so it hasn't felt like a grind so far, even having completed all the available side-ops up to that point. The gameplay variety is what makes it so refreshing. I have no interest in mission ranks or remaining undetected - I mean, I love stealth so I've been mainly playing it that way, but it's really fun taking out bases when you've been discovered too.

The story is completely mad but in an enjoyable sort of way and the game as a whole just feels very unique. It's my first MGS game since 1 on the Playstation and so far it's got me back into the series again.

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#486 A-new-Guardian
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@Blabadon: I feel the same. Gonna take a break maybe.

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#487 AnthonyAutumns
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@Blabadon said:

I'm starting to have moments of flat out boredom when it comes to stealthing every single thing. It's exciting at first but has already become glacial with the plethora of repetitious side missions.

So I've turned to combat which leads for some good times. Enemies are stupid, but you take enough damage to stay honest. The only thing is the open world really doesn't allow a level of cadence in the combat like other games with (smaller) sandboxes do, like Halo 3. Here you can literally run circles around enemies and abuse line of sight. I fear to think how being even stronger later on will change my opinion.

Try not stealthing an FOB 4/4 base run. It's actually doable with a grenade launcher.

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#488 A-new-Guardian
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Mother base hosts a disease apparently and I'm losing soldiers left and right.

The optional missions within the main mission suck ass too. I feel so disappointed in the game right now, and white mamba? Should that even be called a boss? It's basically catch with QTE's.

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#489 Moistcarrot
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I think this might be the most overrated video game of all time. Still can't believe how disappointed I am.

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#490  Edited By AnthonyAutumns
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@a-new-guardian said:

Mother base hosts a disease apparently and I'm losing soldiers left and right.

The optional missions within the main mission suck ass too. I feel so disappointed in the game right now, and white mamba? Should that even be called a boss? It's basically catch with QTE's.

Put all those guys with Kikongo language at the quarantine to stop the spread of infection. Those with symptoms will still die though.

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#491  Edited By AnthonyAutumns
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I used Flaming Buffalo with 2 medals.
I used Flaming Buffalo with 2 medals.

I managed to abduct an S++ Combat Unit with this. Also, an S++ Volunteer came afterwards.

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#493 AnthonyAutumns
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Came from Mosquito's Legacy which is weird because there was no S++ to be extracted.