Metro 2033 is a big rip off.

It's being developed by former GSC employes and those buggers coudn't wait to rip off Stalker.There's allready suspicion that 4a games stole the X-ray engine or at least some parts of it.

Both Stalker and Metro 2033 are based on Russian literature. They both have this post apocaliptyc setting. They even both look the same. Of course Metro is coming to the 360 so it will have dumbed down graphics and A.I. But then again it might turn out like Risen or Divinity II where the PC version was great and the 360 version sucked. Will see..

who cares if its similair... Torchlight was from people who worked on Diablo and it turned out to be a godo little hack and slash rpg.. like DIablo, but still good.

On PC it's one of the best looking games available, it has very good human AI, it's not just loosely inspired by a book but it's entirely based on it, it's a linear shooter and has many original gameplay mechanics - from the gas mask filters and timers to ammo being currency. Your reasons for calling it a rip-off are so shallow and dumb that this topic, unlike your ME topics, isn't even funny.

Sounds to me you are only a 360 hater :? You already have a ME2 bashing thread and now this. Also, a few days ago someone posted some vids of Metro 2033 running on a 360 and it looked amazing ;)

On PC it's one of the best looking games available, it has very good human AI, it's not just loosely inspired by a book but it's entirely based on it, it's a linear shooter and has many original gameplay mechanics - from the gas mask filters and timers to ammo being currency. Your reasons for calling it a rip-off are so shallow and dumb that this topic, unlike your ME topics, isn't even funny.

Baranga

If you want to at least pretend that you're not just trying to bash 360 games, you should space out threads doing so by more than an hour or two.

If you want to at least pretend that you're not just trying to bash 360 games, you should space out threads doing so by more than an hour or two.

topgunmv

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

If you want to at least pretend that you're not just trying to bash 360 games, you should space out threads doing so by more than an hour or two.

Revan_911

Metro 2033 setting is quite different from STALKER and most of all their gameplay is very different. Metro 2033 is like Bioshock or newest Wolfenstein instead of STALKER. Anyway..metro 2033 devs were in original STALKER team, so they might have been inspired a little atmosphere-wise, but gameplay is different. Funny thing is..Deep Shadows is another dev made from ex GSC guys and their game (Boiling Point) was reverse of Metro 2033: it had similiar gameplay to STALKER (open world FPS), but completely different setting

[QUOTE="Revan_911"][QUOTE="topgunmv"]

If you want to at least pretend that you're not just trying to bash 360 games, you should space out threads doing so by more than an hour or two.

delta3074

I do agree that the art style is about the same.

But gameplaywise I doubt they are anything alike. STALKER always stood out to me as a first person survival game, where Metro is more of a corridor shooter.

I do think that I will hold STALKER in a higher reguard when I get metro, since there has been some talking about the gameplay from reporters and people who playied it (thier reactions was something of a mixed bag).

Im gonna get metro tho, without a doubt :P I love that kind of setting and mood.

Metro 2033 setting is quite different from STALKER and most of all their gameplay is very different. Metro 2033 is like Bioshock or newest Wolfenstein instead of STALKER. Anyway..metro 2033 devs were in original STALKER team, so they might have been inspired a little atmosphere-wise, but gameplay is different. Funny thing is..Deep Shadows is another dev made from ex GSC guys and their game (Boiling Point) was reverse of Metro 2033: it had similiar gameplay to STALKER (open world FPS), but completely different setting

AdrianWerner

Deep Shadows...Aren't they bankrupt now? :? Their forums are derelict, and some weird spambots pretending to be administrators send me some messages on there every now and then...It's scary...

Im gonna get metro tho, without a doubt :P I love that kind of setting and mood.Maddie_Larkin

Me too, bro.

it's a bit early to tell, i didn't see enough of this game, anywayit doesn't look so special from what i have seen so far.

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

Metro 2033 setting is quite different from STALKER and most of all their gameplay is very different. Metro 2033 is like Bioshock or newest Wolfenstein instead of STALKER. Anyway..metro 2033 devs were in original STALKER team, so they might have been inspired a little atmosphere-wise, but gameplay is different. Funny thing is..Deep Shadows is another dev made from ex GSC guys and their game (Boiling Point) was reverse of Metro 2033: it had similiar gameplay to STALKER (open world FPS), but completely different setting

Salt_The_Fries

[QUOTE="Salt_The_Fries"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

Metro 2033 setting is quite different from STALKER and most of all their gameplay is very different. Metro 2033 is like Bioshock or newest Wolfenstein instead of STALKER. Anyway..metro 2033 devs were in original STALKER team, so they might have been inspired a little atmosphere-wise, but gameplay is different. Funny thing is..Deep Shadows is another dev made from ex GSC guys and their game (Boiling Point) was reverse of Metro 2033: it had similiar gameplay to STALKER (open world FPS), but completely different setting

AdrianWerner

[QUOTE="Salt_The_Fries"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]I don't know. I mean they did release Precursors merely two months ago in Russia. It's often for russian devs to ignore their websites unfortunately. I remember that the last mention about Cryostasis on it's devs site was 2 years old :D

JONO51

god damn, white gold came out? was it better than boiling point?

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[QUOTE="Salt_The_Fries"] Deep Shadows...Aren't they bankrupt now? :? Their forums are derelict, and some weird spambots pretending to be administrators send me some messages on there...It's scary...Salt_The_Fries

And Precursors is similiar to White Gold, but the weapons, aliens, space sim elements..make it more than enough to be considered a new game on it;s own

it's such a shame so many russian games don't get translated to enligh, same thing with german ones. You would think that if those devs couldn't find english publisher they would eventualy release it through Steam with just text translation. I fortunately live in Poland so we do get plenty of russian/german games that never see the light of day in english form.

And Precursors is similiar to White Gold, but the weapons, aliens, space sim elements..make it more than enough to be considered a new game on it;s own

AdrianWerner

Have you played Collapse? I can't be arsed to hunt down a Russian copy. Loved the demo.

I usually wait a couple of months for an English translation. The only game I couldn't resist and played the Russian version was Cryostasis, and was a fantastic experience. The voice acting was unbelievable.

*tried to copy and paste but it wouldnt stay in english..:( original text in russian*

4A Games(the studio behind Metro 2033) was founded by people who split off from GSC Game World a year before the the release of S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl, in particular Oles' Shiskovtsov and Aleksandr Maksimchuk, the programmers who worked on the development of X-Ray engine used in the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. series. The game will utilize multiplatform 4A Engine; there is some contention regarding whether the engine is an original development (as claimed by 4A Games) or whether it is an adapted and improved branch of pre-release X-Ray engine (as claimed by Sergey Grigorovich, the founder of GSC Game World)

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I posted this a while ago... thats GSC president and developer of STALKER talking about metro 2033

isn't metro 2033 based off a big russian sci fi book? so how is it a ripoff of stalker?

isn't metro 2033 based off a big russian sci fi book?Ragashahs

As far as the theme of the game goes, the source material is based on the book Metro 2033. Does this mean the author of the book is ripping off S.T.A.L.K.E.R.? Maybe you should accuse him. As that is what the game is based on and the author of the book is even helping with the direction of the game in order to make sure it follows it as closely as possible.

I swear, all you hear anymore is "rip-off" and "clone" merely because a game may use the same formula as another that came before it. I suppose all shooters are clones in that respect, but you will never hear any acknowledgement there. In this case the theme is similar only because the book is. Did S.T.A.L.K.E.R. invent the post-apocalyptic setting? I think not. The story just so happens to have the same setting, but the fact that Metro 2033 is based on a best seller renders your accusation null and void.

you mkae it sound like a bad thing, STALKER is one of my favorite series thus-far this gen.

another franchise parallel to STALKER in terms of atmosphere and mechanics is in no way a bad thing

besides, 70 percent of metro 2033 is set underground, a firm departure from STALKER's anomolies and enviroment ambience.

you mkae it sound like a bad thing, STALKER is one of my favorite series thus-far this gen.

another franchise parallel to STALKER in terms of atmosphere and mechanics is in no way a bad thing

besides, 70 percent of metro 2033 is set underground, a firm departure from STALKER's anomolies and enviroment ambience.

Dead-Memories

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

If you want to at least pretend that you're not just trying to bash 360 games, you should space out threads doing so by more than an hour or two.

Revan_911

[QUOTE="Revan_911"][QUOTE="topgunmv"]

If you want to at least pretend that you're not just trying to bash 360 games, you should space out threads doing so by more than an hour or two.

skinny_man_69

you mkae it sound like a bad thing, STALKER is one of my favorite series thus-far this gen.

another franchise parallel to STALKER in terms of atmosphere and mechanics is in no way a bad thing

besides, 70 percent of metro 2033 is set underground, a firm departure from STALKER's anomolies and enviroment ambience.

Which is such a big problem, because there's just so many S.T.A.L.K.E.R.-esque games out their already...

Sounds to me you are only a 360 hater :? You already have a ME2 bashing thread and now this. Also, a few days ago someone posted some vids of Metro 2033 running on a 360 and it looked amazing ;)

PAL360

Yes , yes i will play it on my gaming rig. And i don't own a PS3. Why don't you at least check out my ratings and reviews before you assume stuff.Revan_911

I'm going to get this for sure :)

[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"]

you mkae it sound like a bad thing, STALKER is one of my favorite series thus-far this gen.

another franchise parallel to STALKER in terms of atmosphere and mechanics is in no way a bad thing

besides, 70 percent of metro 2033 is set underground, a firm departure from STALKER's anomolies and enviroment ambience.

Revan_911

until that there is comfirmed proof that they stole parts of it Im going to have to say that they did not as they would be in legal trouble. Now, maybe they USED it and had permission to do so, but even then that wouldnt be copying, otherwise every single game made for the unreal engine would be a copy off of unreal tournament.

You are an angry, angry poster, aren't you?

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

it's such a shame so many russian games don't get translated to enligh, same thing with german ones. You would think that if those devs couldn't find english publisher they would eventualy release it through Steam with just text translation. I fortunately live in Poland so we do get plenty of russian/german games that never see the light of day in english form.

And Precursors is similiar to White Gold, but the weapons, aliens, space sim elements..make it more than enough to be considered a new game on it;s own

Baranga

Have you played Collapse? I can't be arsed to hunt down a Russian copy. Loved the demo.

I usually wait a couple of months for an English translation. The only game I couldn't resist and played the Russian version was Cryostasis, and was a fantastic experience. The voice acting was unbelievable.

Here fanboy,it wont be downgraded because 360,it will use dx11.Devs said its originally pc engine,modified for 360,it wont have lot jaggies because they use they own method not AA.And yea here are newest screens for 360 version,enjoy ;)

http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-471370.aspx?CT=1