Metro Redux was downgraded to hit 1080p/60fps on PS4

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#1  Edited By HaloinventedFPS
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http://www.dsogaming.com/news/metro-redux-first-update-adds-volumetric-lights-exclusively-to-the-pc-version/

So while PS4 gamers are celebrating that Metro Redux is 1080p/60fps on PC, acting like it's proof that with optimization PS4 can compete with high end PC's, the truth is they just removed volumetric lighting, they also removed Bokeh DOF, Tessellation, Muzzle Flash shadows, Characters cast semi transparent models instead of actual shadows, Smoke & Fog effects have been toned down heavily, Smoke is no longer illuminated by Light, ouch, talk about downgrade, sad when Next Gen consoles from late 2013 can't run a game from early 2010

Funny how digital foundry is quiet about this, instead they just keep mentioning it's 1080p/60fps without talking about the compromises that had to be made, Console gamers are none the wiser

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#2 Animal-Mother
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Dark side of gaming? With no legitimate source... Ya ok i'll buy it

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#3 lostrib
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so this patch isn't coming to the console version?

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#4 topgunmv
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A shame all the comparison videos were made before the patch.

Or that there had to be a patch for this in the first place.

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#5 topgunmv
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@Animal-Mother said:

Dark side of gaming? With no legitimate source... Ya ok i'll buy it

Rolls eyes

Buy what?

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#6 CrownKingArthur
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plus the game supports >60 fps on pc.

bloody fanboys get your hand off it

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#7 BldgIrsh
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@topgunmv said:

A shame all the comparison videos were made before the patch.

Or that there had to be a patch for this in the first place.

Pretty much this.

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#8  Edited By Cloud_imperium
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@lostrib said:

so this patch isn't coming to the console version?

No . It is for PC only .

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#9 topgunmv
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http://www.pcgamer.com/2014/08/27/metro-2033-redux-day-one-patch-adds-volumetric-lighting-to-some-scenes/

I recommend this article, it has a couple before and after videos for comparison.

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#10  Edited By Cloud_imperium
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@topgunmv said:

http://www.pcgamer.com/2014/08/27/metro-2033-redux-day-one-patch-adds-volumetric-lighting-to-some-scenes/

I recommend this article, it has a couple before and after videos for comparison.

Thanks .

EDIT : WOW , the game looks a lot better now.

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#11  Edited By RoboCopISJesus
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Holy shit that looks way better now.

Lets see m3dude damage control this. Those gifs...jesus...

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#12 CrownKingArthur
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@Cloud_imperium said:
@topgunmv said:

http://www.pcgamer.com/2014/08/27/metro-2033-redux-day-one-patch-adds-volumetric-lighting-to-some-scenes/

I recommend this article, it has a couple before and after videos for comparison.

Thanks .

wow some of the differences are nothing short of drastic. thanks top gun.

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#13  Edited By Cloud_imperium
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Scene 1 :

Original

Patched

Scene 2 :

Original

Patched

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#15 Gaming-Planet
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That lighting effect gives the game a photo realistic look. Just look at how the light scatters across all objects.

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#16 RoboCopISJesus
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@Cloud_imperium said:

Scene 1 :

Original

Patched

Scene 2 :

Original

Patched

I'm calling you out @m3dude1 , you lose this gen, better luck next time.

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#17 lostrib
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@RoboCopISJesus said:

@Cloud_imperium said:

Scene 1 :

Original

Patched

Scene 2 :

Original

Patched

I'm calling you out @m3dude1 , you lose this gen, better luck next time.

Oh FFS

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#18 7MDMA
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That custom, gimped settings and effects 1080p, 60 FPS only on PeasantStation 4

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#19  Edited By Krelian-co
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Are consolites still arguing that their pos outdated consoles can still compete in any way to high end gaming pcs?

Also lol at TC just using the ps4, if that is on ps4 i can't imagine how bad it is on the xbone.

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#20  Edited By zeeshanhaider
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Oh yeah, I completely forgot about Metro 2033. Sorry cows, looked like I set a bar little bit higher for you when I said Crysis 2. You first had to surpass Metro 2033, a game from 2010, which looks like your precious consolole has trouble running. And the 720Box, well lets not even go there, lol.

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#21 FoxbatAlpha
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There is a slap if the face and knee to the groin.

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#22 DEadliNE-Zero0
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@Cloud_imperium: Those look damm good. Nice job from the devs

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#24  Edited By edwardecl
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So this game is a downgrade of an upgrade?

I am so confused.

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#25 remiks00
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The lighting patch definitely made the game look better, that's for sure. I was wondering why it was downgraded from the original version. It was also missing the particle effects at the beginning of the game; during the outside snow scene compared to the original.

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#26 Cloud_imperium
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@Krelian-co said:

Are consolites still arguing that their pos outdated consoles can still compete in any way to high end gaming pcs?

Also lol at TC just using the ps4, if that is on ps4 i can't imagine how bad it is on the xbone.

It is sad really . I mean , how it is difficult to understand that an outdated hardware can't match High End one . Specially when there are plenty of devs to make use of decent hardware . Yes , not all of them are making games for top of the line PCs like original Crysis (or upcoming Star Citizen) but they do good enough to make it look a lot better than what consoles can offer .

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#27 nutcrackr
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I thought the ps4 version lacked tessellation when I saw the videos.

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#28 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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People are obsessed with these numbers, the game was a rush project quick money grab, and thats why it was done.

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#30  Edited By HaloinventedFPS
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@scottpsfan14: at 900p/30fps they could, not at 1080p/60fps

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#32  Edited By Kinthalis
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@scottpsfan14 said:
@HaloinventedFPS said:

@scottpsfan14: at 900p/30fps they could, not at 1080p/60fps

Hmm I don't think you understand. Wait until you see Halo 4 even. It will crush this game graphically. Even on PC with it's extra added lights. I am telling the truth too.

Lol, you don't quit do you?

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#34 Alcapello
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These are actually features to keep the framerate from .netting

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#35  Edited By Animal-Mother
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@walloftruth said:

@Animal-Mother said:

Dark side of gaming? With no legitimate source... Ya ok i'll buy it

Rolls eyes

What is there to believe? The patch is real and only PC got it.

ya I know, I have the Redux PC versions.

But where's the proof of "downgrading"

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#36 -Unreal-
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I recall telling this forum this over a week ago.

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#37 clyde46
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@scottpsfan14 said:
@Kinthalis said:

@scottpsfan14 said:
@HaloinventedFPS said:

@scottpsfan14: at 900p/30fps they could, not at 1080p/60fps

Hmm I don't think you understand. Wait until you see Halo 4 even. It will crush this game graphically. Even on PC with it's extra added lights. I am telling the truth too.

Lol, you don't quit do you?

What? It's fact. Do you automatically think a game they spent 6 months porting to PS4 is the best it will achieve? You have made up your mind though. So there is probably no talking to you.

Muh optimization.

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#39 Shewgenja
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This game totally belongs to PC. Hell, I wish Destiny was coming to PC (or at least, an announced release date).

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#40 Kinthalis
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@Shewgenja said:

This game totally belongs to PC. Hell, I wish Destiny was coming to PC (or at least, an announced release date).

It's coming. It's not like the publisher isn't familiar with the success of online only games on the PC. My guess is that the only reason it's not on PC to start is probably some deal with Sony and or MS.

It's a matter of when, not if. I'm ok with that. Unlike the new consoles, we don't have a no games issue. Too many games is our issue!

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#41 Wasdie  Moderator
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Wouldn't necessarily call it a downgrade of the PS4 version.

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#42 Kinthalis
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@scottpsfan14 said:
@clyde46 said:

@scottpsfan14 said:
@Kinthalis said:

@scottpsfan14 said:
@HaloinventedFPS said:

@scottpsfan14: at 900p/30fps they could, not at 1080p/60fps

Hmm I don't think you understand. Wait until you see Halo 4 even. It will crush this game graphically. Even on PC with it's extra added lights. I am telling the truth too.

Lol, you don't quit do you?

What? It's fact. Do you automatically think a game they spent 6 months porting to PS4 is the best it will achieve? You have made up your mind though. So there is probably no talking to you.

Muh optimization.

Spoken like a true reddit pcmasterrace cretin. If games don't get better looking on PS4 over the years, I'll be shocked. And it's not just optimization that does it, but adaptation of games engines to the consoles.

http://gamedev.stackexchange.com/questions/41916/how-do-graphics-evolve-so-much-on-the-same-console-hardware

Do you always jump to insults when someone challenges your baselss assertions?

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#45 clyde46
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@scottpsfan14 said:
@Kinthalis said:

@scottpsfan14 said:
@clyde46 said:

@scottpsfan14 said:
@Kinthalis said:

@scottpsfan14 said:
@HaloinventedFPS said:

@scottpsfan14: at 900p/30fps they could, not at 1080p/60fps

Hmm I don't think you understand. Wait until you see Halo 4 even. It will crush this game graphically. Even on PC with it's extra added lights. I am telling the truth too.

Lol, you don't quit do you?

What? It's fact. Do you automatically think a game they spent 6 months porting to PS4 is the best it will achieve? You have made up your mind though. So there is probably no talking to you.

Muh optimization.

Spoken like a true reddit pcmasterrace cretin. If games don't get better looking on PS4 over the years, I'll be shocked. And it's not just optimization that does it, but adaptation of games engines to the consoles.

http://gamedev.stackexchange.com/questions/41916/how-do-graphics-evolve-so-much-on-the-same-console-hardware

Do you always jump to insults when someone challenges your baselss assertions?

What was wrong in that post? Apart from maybe he isn't a cretin lol? All I said is that game engines adapt better to the console hardware over the years.

Which is called "optimization"

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#47  Edited By Heil68
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We are ALL wiser thanks to you TC, thanks for the heads up.

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#48  Edited By AM-Gamer
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DF had a interview with the developer. They basically made the game on PS4 in 6 months. Apparently there next game will feature all the engines effects and they will aim for 30fps.

He also mentioned consoles will get about 2x the performance of a similar speced PC this generation.

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#49 silversix_
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I can only imagine how much of a downgrade TW3 and Dragon Age: I will be. Current gen should've been released in late 2010, not end of 2013

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#50  Edited By deactivated-57d8401f17c55
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That's the price of a true locked 60fps, it'd be nice for an option to have all those effects at 30fps.

@silversix_ said:

I can only imagine how much of a downgrade TW3 and Dragon Age: I will be. Current gen should've been released in late 2010, not end of 2013

It won't be much, considering how even the xbone version of Witcher 3 looks pretty good, and DA is cross gen and they're both 30fps.