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#1 mahjustin
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Metroid Prime 3: Corruption

Metroid Prime 2: Echoes

Don't see much of a difference between the two graphically.... this doesn't look like the graphical showpiece for the Wii that everyone says that it will. Yeah I understand that it will have the waggle controls, but is it really going to make the game that much more "fun"?

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#2 distrbdslipsoad
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comparing pictures is useless. see the game in motion, then say that again.
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#3 Mikerules868
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I have notthing against the Wii, but is this what Metroid prime 3 looks like? or are those bad pics
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#4 Kaze_no_Mirai
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The originals were really fun... in my opinion. If the controls are done right then this could definetely be a ton of fun.
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#5 Tiefster
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So far Nintendo is competing with Sony in terms of graphical letdowns in my book.  I don't expect 360 graphics from Wii but there was a Nintendo rep did say it would make us say "Wow".
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#6 Last_Stand
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MP3 looks a little crisper and less fuzzy, but I know the game will look better in motion.

Besides, who bought a Wii to be floored by great graphics? MP3 will have great atmosphere. Nice effects, art design, and sound. ESPECIALLY sound. Those pics don't fully touch on those points.

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comparing pictures is useless. see the game in motion, then say that again. distrbdslipsoad

yeah, pretty much. 

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#8 foxhound_fox
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Give me animated gifs of videos and then we might have a comparison.
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I have notthing against the Wii, but is this what Metroid prime 3 looks like? or are those bad picsMikerules868

no, not at all. i encourage you to visit ign and view the vids.  

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#10 sparklebarkle
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It looks much better in motion..I don't see the point in using screenshots to compare graphics.
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#12 Kaze_no_Mirai
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Metroid Prime 2 looked A LOT better than that. If you've played it you would know.
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I have nothing against the Wii, but is this what Metroid prime 3 looks like? or are those bad picsMikerules868
Those pics look like they where enlarged so they would look a little distorted since they were enlarged.
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#14 ssbfalco
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See this is what I mean by cows are sometime plain stupid. They said Wii doesn't look next gen but take a look at Metroid Prime 3, it looks better than over half of PS3 games. I can't wait for this game to come out, its easily be on the top 10 graphical games for next gen consoles.Click_Clock

 

Uh.... wha?  Well, when put all together, the game will feature the most surreal world design ever to be done in a game, but I'm not sure what you mean by better...  Better art maybe?

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#15 tree-branch
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they look the same.
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#16 Click_Clock
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[QUOTE="Click_Clock"]See this is what I mean by cows are sometime plain stupid. They said Wii doesn't look next gen but take a look at Metroid Prime 3, it looks better than over half of PS3 games. I can't wait for this game to come out, its easily be on the top 10 graphical games for next gen consoles.ssbfalco

 

Uh.... wha? Well, when put all together, the game will feature the most surreal world design ever to be done in a game, but I'm not sure what you mean by better... Better art maybe?

It has better graphics AND art style when compre to most ps3 games. Retro knows how to fully utilized a system to the maxed and MP3 proves it.
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[QUOTE="Click_Clock"]See this is what I mean by cows are sometime plain stupid. They said Wii doesn't look next gen but take a look at Metroid Prime 3, it looks better than over half of PS3 games. I can't wait for this game to come out, its easily be on the top 10 graphical games for next gen consoles.ssbfalco

Uh.... wha? Well, when put all together, the game will feature the most surreal world design ever to be done in a game, but I'm not sure what you mean by better... Better art maybe?



Don't worry about him, he just likes to say whatever he thinks will annoy the most people. If someone made a thread that said "Cookies are awesome", he'd come in and say "cookies suck, pie is better".
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#18 ssbfalco
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[QUOTE="Mikerules868"]I have nothing against the Wii, but is this what Metroid prime 3 looks like? or are those bad picsNintendo_Ownes7
Those pics look like they where enlarged so they would look a little distorted since they were enlarged.

 

Now that you mention it... 792x451 is a very strange resolution...  720x480 would be a correct resolution for Widescreen Wii and GC screens at least...

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#19 Son_of_Some
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Many people agree that Metroid Prime has more beautiful graphics than Echoes. This is because of the beautiful art style of Phendrana Drifts and all the other places. The only somewhat beautiful area in MP2 was Torvus Bog.

Wouldn't it be funny if the first one would be considered as the one with the most beautiful graphics out of the three in the long run?

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#20 akif22
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those screenshots don't do the game justice .. dunno why nintendo released them as official shots

but by seeing the game in motion, it does look better than MP2 .. textures, lighting etc 

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#21 Last_Stand
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Definitely art style, but graphics? That's stretching it a bit, don't you think?
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#22 mahjustin
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I have notthing against the Wii, but is this what Metroid prime 3 looks like? or are those bad picsMikerules868

The pics for Metroid Prime 3 were released during Nintendo Gamer's Day... which is happening right now.

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#23 mahjustin
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See this is what I mean by cows are sometime plain stupid. They said Wii doesn't look next gen but take a look at Metroid Prime 3, it looks better than over half of PS3 games. I can't wait for this game to come out, its easily be on the top 10 graphical games for next gen consoles.Click_Clock

Wow really? What games does Metroid 3 look better than over half the games on the PS3 (I'm assuming you're talking only about shooters here)?

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#24 ssbfalco
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[QUOTE="Click_Clock"]See this is what I mean by cows are sometime plain stupid. They said Wii doesn't look next gen but take a look at Metroid Prime 3, it looks better than over half of PS3 games. I can't wait for this game to come out, its easily be on the top 10 graphical games for next gen consoles.mahjustin

Wow really? What games does Metroid 3 look better than over half the games on the PS3 (I'm assuming you're talking only about shooters here)?

 

Well, if by half of the games on PS3 he means Gundam, then yes... 

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TC,you say some very interesting stuff,like it doesn't look that much better,and if the "waggle" controls will make the game fun......

But according to IGN....

The game is not yet running in 16:9 widescreen mode, but Retro is still looking into it. It does, however, support progressive-scan. We have to say, the new level looks great. Texture resolutions have been bumped up, bloom lighting complements areas, and the particle effects system is better than ever. Really, watch our latest videos and we think you'll be pretty impressed. The game runs for the most part at 60 frames per second, but we did notice a few spots where the fluidity dipped.

Videos.

And about those "waggle" controls.....

We started up a new level where heroine Samus Aran explores a vast space station and immediately switched to expert mode. We're happy to report that it simulates the accuracy of PC first-person shooters almost perfectly, and we found ourselves soaring through levels, zipping around corners, pulling quick turns and zapping down enemies with pinpoint precision within seconds. Simply put, Retro has pretty much nailed it - and it makes the wait to 2007 for the game that much more difficult. We're not kidding when we write that Prime 3 feels like a brand new game with this control.

Samus is controlled with the analog stick on the nunchuck attachment; its Z button makes her jump and double-jump and the C button rolls her into morphball form. The Wii-mote, meanwhile, is simply aimed at the screen for near-perfect accuracy. The process of turning - an issue in previous builds - is no longer problematic with the inclusion of expert control. This is not beause the control has been radically changed, but the sensitivity has been refined and the the invisible box that determines when Samus points and when she turns has been decreased. As a result, aiming is quicker and turning happens almost instantaneously, which is exactly what the mechanic needed. It's still not up to par with the locked reticule configuration in PC FPSs, but even so it feels hugely improved and much more playable. Pressing the A button fires Aran's weapon and the B trigger is still used for locking onto enemies.

http://wii.ign.com/articles/732/732737p1.html

And this is only from September 2006....

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those pics sucks, it looks beautiful in motion
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#27 Last_Stand
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TC,you say some very interesting stuff,like it doesn't look that much better,and if the "waggle" controls will make the game fun......

But according to IGN....

The game is not yet running in 16:9 widescreen mode, but Retro is still looking into it. It does, however, support progressive-scan. We have to say, the new level looks great. Texture resolutions have been bumped up, bloom lighting complements areas, and the particle effects system is better than ever. Really, watch our latest videos and we think you'll be pretty impressed. The game runs for the most part at 60 frames per second, but we did notice a few spots where the fluidity dipped.

Videos.

And about those "waggle" controls.....

We started up a new level where heroine Samus Aran explores a vast space station and immediately switched to expert mode. We're happy to report that it simulates the accuracy of PC first-person shooters almost perfectly, and we found ourselves soaring through levels, zipping around corners, pulling quick turns and zapping down enemies with pinpoint precision within seconds. Simply put, Retro has pretty much nailed it - and it makes the wait to 2007 for the game that much more difficult. We're not kidding when we write that Prime 3 feels like a brand new game with this control.

Samus is controlled with the analog stick on the nunchuck attachment; its Z button makes her jump and double-jump and the C button rolls her into morphball form. The Wii-mote, meanwhile, is simply aimed at the screen for near-perfect accuracy. The process of turning - an issue in previous builds - is no longer problematic with the inclusion of expert control. This is not beause the control has been radically changed, but the sensitivity has been refined and the the invisible box that determines when Samus points and when she turns has been decreased. As a result, aiming is quicker and turning happens almost instantaneously, which is exactly what the mechanic needed. It's still not up to par with the locked reticule configuration in PC FPSs, but even so it feels hugely improved and much more playable. Pressing the A button fires Aran's weapon and the B trigger is still used for locking onto enemies.

http://wii.ign.com/articles/732/732737p1.html

And this is only from September 2006....

VGobbsesser

In a few years, if the third-party developers are willing to invest the time, perhaps the Wii will become the ultimate FPS console? Maybe it won't have the library of the 360 or the PS3 in that sense, but it will certainly have the perfect control scheme as long as the develpers take the hint from what MP3 is supposedly going to be like.

And let's not forget, the Wii has only been out for 6 months! A console's lifespan is about five years these days. All the devs are still working out the control kinks of the Wii at this point, finding out what works, and following by example. By the end of the Wii's life, if devs don't get stupid, control for games should be incredible. 

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comparing pictures is useless. see the game in motion, then say that again. distrbdslipsoad
Exactly, Metroid is a game that HAS to be seen in motion, screen shots never do it justice.
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I have notthing against the Wii, but is this what Metroid prime 3 looks like? or are those bad picsMikerules868

Those are the worst pics of MP3 I've ever seen.  There haven't been any new pics since September, and I've still seen some plenty better than those.  However, Nintendo has supposedly done a huge graphical improvement to MP3 during the delay that is supposed to make it look handily better than either MP2 or Halo 2.

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In a few years, if the third-party developers are willing to invest the time, perhaps the Wii will become the ultimate FPS console? Maybe it won't have the library of the 360 or the PS3 in that sense, but it will certainly have the perfect control scheme as long as the develpers take the hint from what MP3 is supposedly going to be like.

And let's not forget, the Wii has only been out for 6 months! A console's lifespan is about five years these days. All the devs are still working out the control kinks of the Wii at this point, finding out what works, and following by example. By the end of the Wii's life, if devs don't get stupid, control for games should be incredible.

Last_Stand


I really doubt it, since the FPS genre has typically always made of use of the latest technology, physics, graphics, AI, etc.  Not to say the Wii couldn't have some good FPS games, but I don't think it will ever match the 360 or even PS3.
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[QUOTE="distrbdslipsoad"]comparing pictures is useless. see the game in motion, then say that again. Haziqonfire

yeah, pretty much. 

Exactly. What counts in the end is video footage and video footage alone.  

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[QUOTE="Last_Stand"]

In a few years, if the third-party developers are willing to invest the time, perhaps the Wii will become the ultimate FPS console? Maybe it won't have the library of the 360 or the PS3 in that sense, but it will certainly have the perfect control scheme as long as the develpers take the hint from what MP3 is supposedly going to be like.

And let's not forget, the Wii has only been out for 6 months! A console's lifespan is about five years these days. All the devs are still working out the control kinks of the Wii at this point, finding out what works, and following by example. By the end of the Wii's life, if devs don't get stupid, control for games should be incredible.

Teufelhuhn



I really doubt it, since the FPS genre has typically always made of use of the latest technology, physics, graphics, AI, etc. Not to say the Wii couldn't have some good FPS games, but I don't think it will ever match the 360 or even PS3.

 

Too true. Sad though nonetheless. I'd love to play crysis with some good 3-d controlling! 

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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="Last_Stand"]

In a few years, if the third-party developers are willing to invest the time, perhaps the Wii will become the ultimate FPS console? Maybe it won't have the library of the 360 or the PS3 in that sense, but it will certainly have the perfect control scheme as long as the develpers take the hint from what MP3 is supposedly going to be like.

And let's not forget, the Wii has only been out for 6 months! A console's lifespan is about five years these days. All the devs are still working out the control kinks of the Wii at this point, finding out what works, and following by example. By the end of the Wii's life, if devs don't get stupid, control for games should be incredible.

drewtwo99



I really doubt it, since the FPS genre has typically always made of use of the latest technology, physics, graphics, AI, etc. Not to say the Wii couldn't have some good FPS games, but I don't think it will ever match the 360 or even PS3.

 

Too true. Sad though nonetheless. I'd love to play crysis with some good 3-d controlling!

 

Can't you use the Wiimote in PC games if you download drivers for it?

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Can't you use the Wiimote in PC games if you download drivers for it?kiruyama


You need a Bluetooth adapter as well.
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[QUOTE="Last_Stand"]

In a few years, if the third-party developers are willing to invest the time, perhaps the Wii will become the ultimate FPS console? Maybe it won't have the library of the 360 or the PS3 in that sense, but it will certainly have the perfect control scheme as long as the develpers take the hint from what MP3 is supposedly going to be like.

And let's not forget, the Wii has only been out for 6 months! A console's lifespan is about five years these days. All the devs are still working out the control kinks of the Wii at this point, finding out what works, and following by example. By the end of the Wii's life, if devs don't get stupid, control for games should be incredible.

Teufelhuhn



I really doubt it, since the FPS genre has typically always made of use of the latest technology, physics, graphics, AI, etc. Not to say the Wii couldn't have some good FPS games, but I don't think it will ever match the 360 or even PS3.

No doubt that the Wii will never have the graphics or physics of the PS3 or 360. No argument here on that end. But the Wii should definitely have the ultimate control scheme outside of the PC. There's a possibility that although an FPS for Wii will not have the aforementioned graphical realism, it could be so intuitive that it's more fun to play. Not a guarantee, but a real possibility. 

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Not to say the Wii couldn't have some good FPS games, but I don't think it will ever match the 360 or even PS3.Teufelhuhn
What? No.
Yes, FPS use the hardware of a system, but the key is controls. That's it. If the FPS can't be played well, then it's a bad FPS, pure and simple. And the controller has a lot to do with that.
And, speaking from personal experience, playing with the SIXAXIS is terrible for FPS. The same miserable dual analogue controller layout that hampered FPS on the PS2 combined with even more uncomfortable L2/R2 buttons.

The Wii controller has great potential for FPS. The PS3 controller holds the PS3 back. I really, sincerely doubt the PS3 will be a better machine for FPS.

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Metroid Prime 3 will look better, you'll see when the game comes out.
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I have notthing against the Wii, but is this what Metroid prime 3 looks like? or are those bad picsMikerules868

They're bad pics.  Watch the videos instead and you'll see the game looks MUCH better in motion.

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The Metroid games were never hailed for their fantastic AI and physics, but their interesting and beautiful environments. You don't need purty graphics to achieve interesting or beautiful environments and locations. With innovative scenery and deep, fun controls, it makes up for the lack of straight up improvement.

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#40 Equinox9
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Don't see much of a difference between the two graphically.... this doesn't look like the graphical showpiece for the Wii that everyone says that it will. Yeah I understand that it will have the waggle controls, but is it really going to make the game that much more "fun"?

mahjustin

 

Better graphics make a game more fun? I see...wait no I don't. :?

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#41 ScalIywag
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[QUOTE="mahjustin"]

Don't see much of a difference between the two graphically.... this doesn't look like the graphical showpiece for the Wii that everyone says that it will. Yeah I understand that it will have the waggle controls, but is it really going to make the game that much more "fun"?

Equinox9

 

Better graphics make a game more fun? I see...wait no I don't. :?

Well, imagine playing a game at 1-9 fps with the textures and such maximized beyond max settings

Then, imagine playing the same game at 120 -300 fps with minimal settings

lol

WTH did i just say?

 

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Well, imagine playing a game at 1-9 fps with the textures and such maximized beyond max settings

Then, imagine playing the same game at 120 -300 fps with minimal settings

lol

WTH did i just say?

ScalIywag


Indeed.

I have experienced this whole "setting" thing for myself for years now. I have never had a top of the line rig and have always had to sacrifice graphical additions in order to get quality and smooth gameplay. I can tell you from experience that a game running at 60fps and looking like ass is much better than a beautiful slideshow. If the whole idea was to watch games I could see having pretty graphics as a bonus, but the whole idea is to play them...
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#43 MantiCore2K8
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Come on, it's the Wii!  It's a friggin' GameCube 1.1, LOL!  Nintendo failed you sheep!

:P:cry::lol: :P:cry::lol: :P:cry::lol: :P:cry::lol: :P:cry::lol: :P:cry::lol: 

 

 

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#44 Marka1700
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All preview said that is was massivley upgraded since MP2,  I will belive them over you low quality screenshots, because those screen look many times worse than the MP2 that is on my TV screen right now.
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#45 haziqonfire
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Come on, it's the Wii! It's a friggin' GameCube 1.1, LOL! Nintendo failed you sheep!

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uhhhhhh.......manticore2k8? :lol: 

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#46 thejakel11225
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See this is what I mean by cows are sometime plain stupid. They said Wii doesn't look next gen but take a look at Metroid Prime 3, it looks better than over half of PS3 games. I can't wait for this game to come out, its easily be on the top 10 graphical games for next gen consoles.Click_Clock

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:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Okay, i hope you're kidding, for your sake. 

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#47 agentfred
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Stop saying pics don't do it justice, Pics do no game justice.   Get over it, the wii isn't that great of a technological leap, it has other strengths, but graphics aren't one of them.  It looks bad people, get over it.
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#48 Marka1700
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[QUOTE="Click_Clock"]See this is what I mean by cows are sometime plain stupid. They said Wii doesn't look next gen but take a look at Metroid Prime 3, it looks better than over half of PS3 games. I can't wait for this game to come out, its easily be on the top 10 graphical games for next gen consoles.thejakel11225

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:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Okay, i hope you're kidding, for your sake. 

I think he is serious.

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#49 NorthlandMan
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lulz Metroid 2 looks better. Wi isn't GC 1.5 it's GC 0.5
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#50 thejakel11225
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[QUOTE="thejakel11225"]

[QUOTE="Click_Clock"]See this is what I mean by cows are sometime plain stupid. They said Wii doesn't look next gen but take a look at Metroid Prime 3, it looks better than over half of PS3 games. I can't wait for this game to come out, its easily be on the top 10 graphical games for next gen consoles.Marka1700

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:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Okay, i hope you're kidding, for your sake.

I think he is serious.

Really? must be one heck of a flame shield he's got...Â