MGR the best Metal gear game ever ?

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#51 Krelian-co
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[QUOTE="OldSnake-PS3"]

GTFO 

MGS4 is the best metal gear game (or MGS3/MGS1 if you prefer)

that spinoff bullsh** is an abomination and a stain on the metal gear name IMO

timmy00

lol metal gear fans.

Either way, the game is certainly on par with MGS3 with overall enjoyment for me. They are hard to compare though.

on par with mgs3?

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#52 timmy00
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[QUOTE="timmy00"]

[QUOTE="OldSnake-PS3"]

GTFO 

MGS4 is the best metal gear game (or MGS3/MGS1 if you prefer)

that spinoff bullsh** is an abomination and a stain on the metal gear name IMO

Krelian-co

lol metal gear fans.

Either way, the game is certainly on par with MGS3 with overall enjoyment for me. They are hard to compare though.

on par with mgs3?

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Yup.

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#53 platniumgamer
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Metal Gear Solid 3 will always be the best.

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#54 MercenaryMafia
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:lol:

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#55 Darth_Kane
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we all know gameplay >everything else.

beganoo

No

 

MGS1 will always be the best of the bunch.

finalfantasy94

This. And MGS1 had the worst gameplay of the series (if you don't count MG and MG2:SS)

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#56 epicgameplayer
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No, not even close lol Gameplay has no depth, easy hack and slasher with terrible controls, Story is not even comparable to the worst main line Metal Gear game, and the graphics are sub par etc etc etc Rising is not even a great hack and slasher. Platinum games is one of the most over rated developers ever
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#57 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="beganoo"]

we all know gameplay >everything else.

Darth_Kane

No

 

MGS1 will always be the best of the bunch.

finalfantasy94

This. And MGS1 had the worst gameplay of the series (if you don't count MG and MG2:SS)

Yea didint age as well gameplay wise but its still ok. The remake version had better gameplay but cutscene stuff was anoying dear god the matrix.

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#58 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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Haven't played it past the demo, but I doubt it'll top MGS3

Also hard to compare when it's quite different from previous ones.

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#59 PannicAtack
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I'm sure it's a fine game, but I somewhat think that calling the best game in a stealth series the game that is very decidedly not stealthy at all is, well...
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#60 DivineSword  Moderator
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Not sure if I played the same demo as everyone else, but that game is far from being the best in the series!

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#61 andmcq
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Best Metal Gear Hack N Slash yes..

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This ^^

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#62 GrayF0X786
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right and Call of Duty BlackOps Declassified is the best first person shooter ever, with a thrilling single player, emotional character development and breathtaking set pieces.

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#63 GrayF0X786
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imo MGS4 is the best.

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#64 WiiMan21
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I think Metal Gear Solid 4 is, then Metal Gear Solid 3, then I'd say Rising, then 1 then 2.

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#65 biggest_loser
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I'm just assuming that those people who think this is the best Metal Gear are either newcomers or **** about the other Metal Gears being "boring" and a "movie instead of a game". In which case, their opinions don't really matter and are the reason why games suck these days.

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Playing MGS4 now for the first time and the developers seem more interested in the cutscenes than the game play. Movies running for over half and hour at a time.
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#66 NathanDrakeSwag
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good lord no.

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#67 Razor_defiace
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Nope, not even close. It's a really good game on its own merits though, and is enjoyable to play through many times.
  

 

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#68 cainetao11
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Trolling? Why would I be trolling. The game is amazing and I did indeed enjoy it lot mroe then any other MGS game (and I love stealt games aswell, just FYI).Why is that so unbelievable.Got to love people in denial, "INCONCEIVABLE., THSI CANT BE". Play the game. Its not like compering big rings and portal 2. MGR up there.

 

Btw Lol at people saying "based on the demo". It was 20 minuts are you freaking kidding me ? The cat at the end of the demo is really a generic enemy later on. You'r not even seen the boss fights.. wasn't that impressed whit the demo myself but the hole game is entirely different beast.

beganoo
While I wont jump on the best ever train, I agree with your other points. MGR is great, imo. That cat from demo is nothing compared to boss fights. And it ties in well with the MGS world, with the fall of the Patriots, the war economy story. Excellent new avenue for this franchise.
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#69 Sushiglutton
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Yes of course it is.
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#70 beganoo
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[QUOTE="beganoo"]

we all know gameplay >everything else.

Darth_Kane

No

 

MGS1 will always be the best of the bunch.

finalfantasy94

This. And MGS1 had the worst gameplay of the series (if you don't count MG and MG2:SS)

 

What ? A big NO to your no there buddy.

 

Gameplay in GAMES (GAME-PLAY) is always number one. I laugh at people that call themself gamers and think otherwise. They just have no f*cking idea what they are talking about really.

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#71 carloas27
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 There should be a poll.

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#72 Obviously_Right
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Not even better than MGS 2.

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#73 heeweesRus
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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

Not even better than MGS 2.

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#74 tonitorsi
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No MGS 3 exists.jg4xchamp

Should have ended at this.

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#75 joel_c17
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No
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#77 lundy86_4
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I've played MGS since it's initial PS1 outing, and no. I find a mix of elements to be best, and the demo for MGR just pushed the cheese... I'll buy the game, and wait to see, but I preferred the earlier Metal Gear games.

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#78 deactivated-5cd08b1605da1
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[QUOTE="Vatusus"]

MGS was always know for stealth, not hack'n'slash action

JangoWuzHere

 

Ever since MGS3, MGS games have been known as action adventure games. Heck I would say that the first two games are action adventure as well. There are just so many moments in those game where you are doing crazy action stuff.

Both stealth and Hack'n'Slash are sub-genres of the action adventure. ActAdv is a broad genre. You cant compare those two games gameplay wise. And I still disagree. Both MGS3 and MGS4 are still much stealth driven

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#79 h575309
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Love how the majority of people are like "judging by the demo" or calling it trash. I'm a huge metal gear fan, as 1 might be my favorite game of all time, but the sheer awesomeness of this game makes me way more excited for another Rising then a Solid. You guys should try maybe playing the game or stop expecting every game to hand feed you the final boss. This is a true gamers game.
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#80 Nintendo_Ownes7
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Not even better than MGS 2.

GD1551

It is hard to beat the best.

 

Off/On topic think what could've been.

Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance.Source.

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#81 h575309
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Sadly no. The combat is a bit on the shallow side and the game is too short.

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Every MGS game has been able to be completed in under 8 hours. Plus really? The definition of a good game is playtime? Now that's shallow.
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#82 nightshade869
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This thread made me throw up in my mouth.
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#83 GD1551
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Love how the majority of people are like "judging by the demo" or calling it trash. I'm a huge metal gear fan, as 1 might be my favorite game of all time, but the sheer awesomeness of this game makes me way more excited for another Rising then a Solid. You guys should try maybe playing the game or stop expecting every game to hand feed you the final boss. This is a true gamers game.h575309

True gamers game.. lmao. It's not even up the upper echelons of the action genre.

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#84 catasaurus
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it was great. hopefully the game has downloadable content

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#85 Krelian-co
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[QUOTE="Stringerboy"]

Sadly no. The combat is a bit on the shallow side and the game is too short.

h575309

Every MGS game has been able to be completed in under 8 hours. Plus really? The definition of a good game is playtime? Now that's shallow.

maybe under 8h if you rush, but mgs series always have so much content that if you finish it under 8h you are doing it wrong, plus almost all of the playtime is very high quality, so no, not even close.

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#86 Nintendo_Ownes7
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[QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="Stringerboy"]

Sadly no. The combat is a bit on the shallow side and the game is too short.

Krelian-co

Every MGS game has been able to be completed in under 8 hours. Plus really? The definition of a good game is playtime? Now that's shallow.

maybe under 8h if you rush, but mgs series always have so much content that if you finish it under 8h you are doing it wrong, plus almost all of the playtime is very high quality, so no, not even close.

What if they are trying to complete it 100% which means you have to beat it under 5hrs on one playthrough to get a couple of emblems like the Big Boss Emblem.

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#87 Krelian-co
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[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

[QUOTE="h575309"] Every MGS game has been able to be completed in under 8 hours. Plus really? The definition of a good game is playtime? Now that's shallow.Nintendo_Ownes7

maybe under 8h if you rush, but mgs series always have so much content that if you finish it under 8h you are doing it wrong, plus almost all of the playtime is very high quality, so no, not even close.

What if they are trying to complete it 100% which means you have to beat it under 5hrs on one playthrough to get a couple of emblems like the Big Boss Emblem.

i wonder why you think that's relevant to the discussion?

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#88 NAPK1NS
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yes

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No way. MGS3 still exists.
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#89 Nintendo_Ownes7
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[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]

[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

maybe under 8h if you rush, but mgs series always have so much content that if you finish it under 8h you are doing it wrong, plus almost all of the playtime is very high quality, so no, not even close.

Krelian-co

What if they are trying to complete it 100% which means you have to beat it under 5hrs on one playthrough to get a couple of emblems like the Big Boss Emblem.

i wonder why you think that's relevant to the discussion?

Because you said if you finish it in under 8 hours you're doing it wrong.

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#90 sonic1564
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Well it actually is a game unlike Movie Gear Solid 4, so there's a start.

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#91 Krelian-co
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[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]What if they are trying to complete it 100% which means you have to beat it under 5hrs on one playthrough to get a couple of emblems like the Big Boss Emblem.

Nintendo_Ownes7

i wonder why you think that's relevant to the discussion?

Because you said if you finish it in under 8 hours you're doing it wrong.

and i stand by it, if you are rushing that trophy for the 100% it means youve already finished the game and seen most of its content. I also doubt it is under 5h but might be wrong.

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#92 Clock-w0rk
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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

Not even better than MGS 2.

Nintendo_Ownes7

It is hard to beat the best.

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#93 jg4xchamp
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After beating it I'd still say no. It's really good in spots, but the lack of a block makes certain segments of the game infuriating because trying to perry every f*cking thing is kind of taxing. Plus there is little sh1t like if you need to change items which feels kind of slow after you hit the d-pad. Warts aside though the games fun.

Combat has plenty of depth once you start unlocking enemies, the harder difficulties are hardly slouch territory(especially Revengeance), and the ghetto stealth segments are actually kind of fun(especially since even if you get alerted you can just slice and dice everyone). Some of the boss fights in this game are vundabar though. Monsoon and Sam are beast. Game doesn't stack up all that well against a Ninja Gaiden Black(or NG2s combat), Bayonetta, or Devil May Cry 3, but it's really good overall. Doesn't feel as drawn out as DMC 4, certainly has more interesting combat than the new DmC or a God of War, and the bosses make up for a lot of things. The shortness of the game is whatever as I usually get more annoyed when a game overstays its welcome. I do not think they could do a sequel of this game with samey mechanics though. It will need some overhaul in spots.

Trying to S rank the game though is gonna be a b1tch.

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#94 soapandbubbles
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Makes no sense..considering ones a hack and slash the other action/stealth of different gameplay mechanics.
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#95 HaloPimp978
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Nope MGS1 is best MG game.