MGS 4 on multiple discs=WHO CARES KONAMI?!?

Whether or not MGS 4 comes to the 360, it wouldn't reduce sales if it were on 5 discs even. People would still buy. You people didn't pay $500 to not get up to change the discs, you did so to play great games, and that's what everyone wants. Besides, after finishing single player(4-5 discs), 360 owners could play multiplayer on one disc(and use a few GB on the 360's HDD IF needed).

Release MGS 4: Subsidence on the 360 a year later, make TONS of profits. I think Konami should consider it if they want to make millions.

multiple discs = non issue-GhostMLD-

yet one time installation is a major issue (only because of ps3).

And the begging begins.kool-aids

[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]multiple discs = non issuevirtuas

yet one time installation is a major issue (only because of ps3).

[QUOTE="virtuas"]

[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]multiple discs = non issuebeast667

yet one time installation is a major issue (only because of ps3).

Konami WILL bring it to the 360, and I'm not saying that because I want it, but it makes perfect logical sense. You first spend all your effort perfecting MGS 4, and then spend the next year getting that game ready for the system with a bigger fanbase that will make huge profits. Still, the 360 does have hardware limitations, and that's what this year is for. Figure out how to make the multiple discs while porting the game. Porting a game isn't easy, but I think Kojima wasn't concerned with porting it while he was working on the greatest game of his career so far.

Changing discs is not a problem with me....

Currently playing Lost Odyssey.

[QUOTE="kool-aids"]And the begging begins.RyuHayabusaX

then why didn't you do this instead of making this topic

[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]multiple discs = non issuevirtuas

yet one time installation is a major issue (only because of ps3).

because it takes up 5 gigs of harddrive space to run ON PAR with the 360 versions.

If that is the case:

Then the PS3 should get Left for Dead, Mass Effect, Ninja Gaiden 3, Splinter Cell Conviction, and whatever game that is exclusive to the 360 and made my a 3rd party dev.

Sounds fair? Quit being greedy lemmings, other consoles get their fair share of good games.

multiple discs = non issue-GhostMLD-

80% of fanboy arguments = non issue.

[QUOTE="RyuHayabusaX"][QUOTE="kool-aids"]And the begging begins.edo-tensei

then why didn't you do this instead of making this topic

"Hey can I borrow your PS3 for a few days?"

That's not a question you can easily say yes to unless you're a close friend to that person, and I don't have too many friends who own a PS3(only like 10), and none of them own MGS 4. Most of the poeple at my school play COD 4 and Halo 3 online for Xbox 360. Maybe I could ask one of those friends to borrow the PS3 and rent MGS 4, though it just seems like a lot to do, and I don't need to play the game, it's not a top priority in my life.

Whether or not MGS 4 comes to the 360, it wouldn't reduce sales if it were on 5 discs even. People would still buy. You people didn't pay $500 to not get up to change the discs, you did so to play great games, and that's what everyone wants. Besides, after finishing single player(4-5 discs), 360 owners could play multiplayer on one disc(and use a few GB on the 360's HDD IF needed).

Release MGS 4: Subsidence on the 360 a year later, make TONS of profits. I think Konami should consider it if they want to make millions.

RyuHayabusaX

[QUOTE="virtuas"]

[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]multiple discs = non issue-GhostMLD-

yet one time installation is a major issue (only because of ps3).

because it takes up 5 gigs of harddrive space to run ON PAR with the 360 versions.

You have a valid point, but the installation issue isnt about as big of an issue to some as disc changing. Both are blown out of proportion.

Only realy problem with installs is the HDD space... which is easily upgradable, but about the only legit complaint anyone can make.

If you want it that badly, buy a PS3.SpruceCaboose

*spits on floor*

[QUOTE="beast667"][QUOTE="virtuas"]

[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]multiple discs = non issueRyuHayabusaX

yet one time installation is a major issue (only because of ps3).

Konami WILL bring it to the 360, and I'm not saying that because I want it, but it makes perfect logical sense. You first spend all your effort perfecting MGS 4, and then spend the next year getting that game ready for the system with a bigger fanbase that will make huge profits. Still, the 360 does have hardware limitations, and that's what this year is for. Figure out how to make the multiple discs while porting the game. Porting a game isn't easy, but I think Kojima wasn't concerned with porting it while he was working on the greatest game of his career so far.

Do you realize how many times things make perfect sense in this business, but they never happen? Just because it makes sense, it doesn't mean it is going to happen.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]If you want it that badly, buy a PS3.-GhostMLD-

*spits on floor*

How is that either a rebuttal or an insult?

multiple discs = non issue-GhostMLD-

It's only a non-issue for the consumers. It is, however, an issue for Konami. Additional discs increase production and distribution costs. If a game doesn't fit on one disc, the publisher automatically has to pay for twice as many (or more) discs when they're being printed. When you're producing millions of them, the cost is something they have to consider.

Additionally, the publisher/manufacturer also must take into consideration how these extra discs will be packaged. Does anybody remember Lost Odyssey? If a game is on 3+ discs, it complicates matters when it comes time to package and distribute the game. It increases the cost of production.

Now, if the publisher were guaranteed to ship a ton of games, they would gladly go to the extra cost/trouble of distributing a game on multiple discs. However, Konami tried this little experiment before; that is, MGS on a non-Sony console. For those who are familiar with the history of the MGS series, you know what I'm talking about. It was a failure on many levels.

Now, what motivation does Konami really have to port MGS4 to the 360? They've already shipped 3 million copies of the game and it's only been, what, two weeks? It's not going to happen.

Multiple discs may be a non-issue for you, but it's certainly not the same for those responsible for paying for the cost of production and distribution. It makes a difference.

If that is the case:

Then the PS3 should get Left for Dead, Mass Effect, Ninja Gaiden 3, Splinter Cell Conviction, and whatever game that is exclusive to the 360 and made my a 3rd party dev.

Sounds fair? Quit being greedy lemmings, other consoles get their fair share of good games.

Ninten007

[QUOTE="RyuHayabusaX"]

Whether or not MGS 4 comes to the 360, it wouldn't reduce sales if it were on 5 discs even. People would still buy. You people didn't pay $500 to not get up to change the discs, you did so to play great games, and that's what everyone wants. Besides, after finishing single player(4-5 discs), 360 owners could play multiplayer on one disc(and use a few GB on the 360's HDD IF needed).

Release MGS 4: Subsidence on the 360 a year later, make TONS of profits. I think Konami should consider it if they want to make millions.

EVOLV3

That was last gen when the PS2 was 100,000,000 ahead in sales.

I dont think MGS4 looks likely to come to the 360... but it's certainly possible. I've posted this in another forum, but here is why I dont think MGS4 will come to the 360... at least, in it's true form anyway.

MGS4 references the PS1, and even shows a picture of it.
Snake uses a Sixaxis.
They pretty much advertise Blu Ray right in the middle of the game.
Apple products (including Ipods) are all used in the game... MS's other rival.

It could happen, but it doesnt look likely.

[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]multiple discs = non issuevirtuas

yet one time installation is a major issue (only because of ps3).

The initial install is eight minutes followed by four 3 minute installs per act. If you want to play a previous act or play MGS online you have to endure the 3 minute install again.

Multiple disks would be no hardship with this game.

Having a game on multiple discs isn't a problem. How many times does MGS4 pause the game to install a part? Four, five? I can't remember. But the time spent on installing one part of the game takes longer than changing a disc. I know you don't have to get up and walk that oh, so long way to the console when you just install a part.

[QUOTE="beast667"][QUOTE="virtuas"]

[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]multiple discs = non issueRyuHayabusaX

yet one time installation is a major issue (only because of ps3).

Konami WILL bring it to the 360, and I'm not saying that because I want it, but it makes perfect logical sense. You first spend all your effort perfecting MGS 4, and then spend the next year getting that game ready for the system with a bigger fanbase that will make huge profits. Still, the 360 does have hardware limitations, and that's what this year is for. Figure out how to make the multiple discs while porting the game. Porting a game isn't easy, but I think Kojima wasn't concerned with porting it while he was working on the greatest game of his career so far.

[QUOTE="beast667"][QUOTE="virtuas"]

[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]multiple discs = non issueRyuHayabusaX

yet one time installation is a major issue (only because of ps3).

Konami WILL bring it to the 360, and I'm not saying that because I want it, but it makes perfect logical sense. You first spend all your effort perfecting MGS 4, and then spend the next year getting that game ready for the system with a bigger fanbase that will make huge profits. Still, the 360 does have hardware limitations, and that's what this year is for. Figure out how to make the multiple discs while porting the game. Porting a game isn't easy, but I think Kojima wasn't concerned with porting it while he was working on the greatest game of his career so far.

if mgs4 do get ported, it wont be easy because the game is specifically made for the ps3. It would be like building the game from stratch, meaning they have to spend as much money as they did on the ps3. Another problem would be that it won't sell in japan, it won't sell that much in europe and U.S. seeing that xbox is mainly a system for halo and gear fans type of gamers.

The only reason xbox fan are saying it should come out on the xbox is because of ENVY. Basically, you want what you cant have. but if it did came out, most ppl will ignore it just like when mgs2 on the xbox and was ignored.

Xbox gamers are partly to blame because of the lack of interest when you guys were given a chance to play a very good game, yet you turn it away.

Whether or not MGS 4 comes to the 360, it wouldn't reduce sales if it were on 5 discs even. People would still buy. You people didn't pay $500 to not get up to change the discs, you did so to play great games, and that's what everyone wants. Besides, after finishing single player(4-5 discs), 360 owners could play multiplayer on one disc(and use a few GB on the 360's HDD IF needed).

Release MGS 4: Subsidence on the 360 a year later, make TONS of profits. I think Konami should consider it if they want to make millions.

RyuHayabusaX

LOL..Konami released a MGS game on an MS system and it did not sell millions or do well at all. It might just be more of a waste of money. Not to mention that Sony has pretty much saved Konami money in advertising for MGS4 with them putting the game in their commercials and bundling it in their systems. Trust me MGS4 being bundled with the PS3 will make Konami alot more then if it wasnt bundled and it went multiplat.

Want to play it, get a PS3 or make a friend.

[QUOTE="Ninten007"]

If that is the case:

Then the PS3 should get Left for Dead, Mass Effect, Ninja Gaiden 3, Splinter Cell Conviction, and whatever game that is exclusive to the 360 and made my a 3rd party dev.

Sounds fair? Quit being greedy lemmings, other consoles get their fair share of good games.

RyuHayabusaX

Epic can put Gears 2 on PS3 for far more profits. But they are not.

So why should you want MGS 4 on your system?

Porting is not difficult. Especially when they are the same game/

Konami have made their profits, they were proud of how MGS 4 was selling. They said it must sell over 1 million on the first day to break even, it did that. Not to mention we do not know the exact sell numbers in Europe or America.

[QUOTE="beast667"][QUOTE="virtuas"]

[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]multiple discs = non issueRyuHayabusaX

yet one time installation is a major issue (only because of ps3).

Konami WILL bring it to the 360, and I'm not saying that because I want it, but it makes perfect logical sense. You first spend all your effort perfecting MGS 4, and then spend the next year getting that game ready for the system with a bigger fanbase that will make huge profits. Still, the 360 does have hardware limitations, and that's what this year is for. Figure out how to make the multiple discs while porting the game. Porting a game isn't easy, but I think Kojima wasn't concerned with porting it while he was working on the greatest game of his career so far.

By your logic there should not be ANY third party exclusives but of course your wrong.

[QUOTE="RyuHayabusaX"][QUOTE="beast667"][QUOTE="virtuas"]

[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]multiple discs = non issuelantus

yet one time installation is a major issue (only because of ps3).

Konami WILL bring it to the 360, and I'm not saying that because I want it, but it makes perfect logical sense. You first spend all your effort perfecting MGS 4, and then spend the next year getting that game ready for the system with a bigger fanbase that will make huge profits. Still, the 360 does have hardware limitations, and that's what this year is for. Figure out how to make the multiple discs while porting the game. Porting a game isn't easy, but I think Kojima wasn't concerned with porting it while he was working on the greatest game of his career so far.

Do you realize how many times things make perfect sense in this business, but they never happen? Just because it makes sense, it doesn't mean it is going to happen.

[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]multiple discs = non issueJared2720

Now, if the publisher were guaranteed to ship a ton of games, they would gladly go to the extra cost/trouble of distributing a game on multiple discs. However, Konami tried this little experiment before; that is, MGS on a non-Sony console. For those who are familiar with the history of the MGS series, you know what I'm talking about. It was a failure on many levels.

Now, what motivation does Konami really have to port MGS4 to the 360? They've already shipped 3 million copies of the game and it's only been, what, two weeks? It's not going to happen.

Multiple discs may be a non-issue for you, but it's certainly not the same for those responsible for paying for the cost of production and distribution. It makes a difference.

A. Have you noticed the positive buzz this gmae has gotten over the past few weeks?

B. The 360 is not the Xbox. 360 gamers buy a whole lot more games than last gen lemmings

C. MGS 4 is not MGS 2. There are things (better camera and controls) that make all the difference.

D. Konami's motivation? easy. A larger userbase = more money.

MGS 4 will sell on the 360, no problem.

After all of this, I believe it won't be ported. MGO could be a problem as Konami seems to want to do it themselves. XBL could be the stumbling block or it would ship without the online, which would probably be a blessing.

[QUOTE="virtuas"]

[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]multiple discs = non issueheretrix

yet one time installation is a major issue (only because of ps3).

The initial install is eight minutes followed by three 3 minute installs per act. If you want to play a previous act or play MGS online you have to endure the 3 minute install again.

Multiple disks would be no hardship with this game.

[QUOTE="Ninten007"]

If that is the case:

Then the PS3 should get Left for Dead, Mass Effect, Ninja Gaiden 3, Splinter Cell Conviction, and whatever game that is exclusive to the 360 and made my a 3rd party dev.

Sounds fair? Quit being greedy lemmings, other consoles get their fair share of good games.

RyuHayabusaX

LOL..NGS sold poorly but guess what so did NG2, infact all NG games have sold poorly whether on an MS, Nintendo or Sony system. MGS is not in that same boat.

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="virtuas"]

[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]multiple discs = non issuewhite_sox

yet one time installation is a major issue (only because of ps3).

The initial install is eight minutes followed by three 3 minute installs per act. If you want to play a previous act or play MGS online you have to endure the 3 minute install again.

Multiple disks would be no hardship with this game.

With all the smack Lemmings talk about MGS 4, you got to really wonder why do they want it on their system to play it if they say it is so bad? Ninten007

you mean like cows and mass effect?

I don't know. I just did my second play through today. I had to reinstall each act. And when I attempted to try MGO it had to be installed because I was in the middle of act 3 in my first playthough.You do have to reinstall each act.heretrix

[QUOTE="Ninten007"]With all the smack Lemmings talk about MGS 4, you got to really wonder why do they want it on their system to play it if they say it is so bad? lawlessx

you mean like cows and mass effect?

Wow great point, man you owned him..trying to act like lemmings are the only hypocrites here...:roll:

god..please dont make this thread get passed 3 pages.lawlessx