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#1 Adonymous
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OH MY GOD!!!

5 minute cutscene, walk down the hallway (15 sec), 3 minute cutscene, as soon as its over 5 minute CODEC convo, then another cutscence, which leads into one of those weird cutscences, then a solid 4 minutes of gameplay, and then another 30 minutes of cutscenes, Codec convos...gahh...

Seriously...too much. MGS4 should have just been a movie.

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#2 Ragashahs
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yes we get you have add and can't sit still what else is new
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#3 ps3wizard45
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its only painful if your a fanboy troll or not a fan of mgs
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#4 Great_Ragnarok
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that game doesn;t deserve 10!
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#5 Adonymous
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yes we get you have add and can't sit still what else is newRagashahs

ACT 3, when Snake meets "BM" and that conversation...that was freaken 30 minutes...at least...and the part in Act 2 w/ raiden, that entire level all you did was run down a city street (took 2 minutes)....while you watched a good 30-45 minutes of cutscenes....excessive.

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#6 SiKh22
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your first MGS? Or you just dont know the nature of MGS games..too bad you feel this way for a awesome game.
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#7 foxhound_fox
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Then why play it if you find it painful and were completely expecting that kind of gameplay?
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#8 EmpCom
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yes we get you have add and can't sit still what else is newRagashahs
Ignore this pos there is always one smartass. you are right though way to many cutscenes.
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#9 Adonymous
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your first MGS? Or you just dont know the nature of MGS games..too bad you feel this way for a awesome game.SiKh22

Nope...played MGS2 and 3...they had cutscenes, but not MGS4 long cutscenes.

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yes we get you have add and can't sit still what else is newRagashahs

wow that makes no sense to me i dont understand what you said look at me im typing like you for comedic effect does anyone else see that i hope you do i dont type like this all the time anyway care to rephrase your post because i didnt understand at all as for the topic at hand i know what you mean tc.

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#11 Adonymous
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yes we get you have add and can't sit still what else is newRagashahs

I like playing games, not watching them.

Cut-Scenes should not make 80% of a game.

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#12 SiKh22
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do you understand the game so far if you don't..could be why.. I mean really understand the story.
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#13 GARRYTH
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na just very very painful a 2nd time. i rather watch the drama station.
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#14 Adonymous
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do you understand the game so far if you don't..could be why.. I mean really understand the story.SiKh22

I understand the story, but you have to admit that it gets painful after a while....all the cool stuff happens in cutscenes...the gameplay itself seems like an afterthought.

And why give me all those amazing weapons...I swear this game has more weapons than any other game...but most of them you don't use....there's no need...your sleep thing (forgot name)...is more effective than most of the weapons.

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#15 Zenkuso
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360 IS THE KING OF RPGS!

Shouldn't you lemmings be priasing cutscenes :p

And you can hit the start button and skip the cutscenes in MGS4, you aren't forced to watch them.

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#16 C_BozkurT_C
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that game doesn;t deserve 10!Great_Ragnarok
no game deserves a perfect 10
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#17 Adonymous
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360 IS THE KING OF RPGS!

Shouldn't you lemmings be priasing cutscenes :p

And you can hit the start button and skip the cutscenes in MGS4, you aren't forced to watch them.

Zenkuso

skipping the cut-scenes is dumb.

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[QUOTE="Ragashahs"]yes we get you have add and can't sit still what else is newMADVLAD123

wow that makes no sense to me i dont understand what you said look at me im typing like you for comedic effect does anyone else see that i hope you do i dont type like this all the time anyway care to rephrase your post because i didnt understand at all as for the topic at hand i know what you mean tc.

What Ragashahs is saying is that TC has Attention-Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (aka ADD or ADHD). When someone has this disorder, they usually can't sit still for more than mere moments at a time. They always have to do something. There's your tid-bit for the day.

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#19 Tykain
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I liked the cutscenes in MGS4, it never was painful watching them. Wouldn't want them removed or shortened.
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#20 Gen007
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[QUOTE="Great_Ragnarok"]that game doesn;t deserve 10!C_BozkurT_C
no game deserves a perfect 10

yay best post of the day and MGS has always been like that i remember almost falling asleep on the mGS 2 ending i still love it though

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#21 MADVLAD123
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[QUOTE="MADVLAD123"]

[QUOTE="Ragashahs"]yes we get you have add and can't sit still what else is newdragonpuppy

wow that makes no sense to me i dont understand what you said look at me im typing like you for comedic effect does anyone else see that i hope you do i dont type like this all the time anyway care to rephrase your post because i didnt understand at all as for the topic at hand i know what you mean tc.

What Ragashahs is saying is that TC has Attention-Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (aka ADD or ADHD). When someone has this disorder, they usually can't sit still for more than mere moments at a time. They always have to do something. There's your tid-bit for the day.

No, I knew what he was saying. You have to read between the lines. I was actually commenting on the general lack of grammar and coherence in the sentence (i.e capitalization, commas, question marks...). I'm kind of a grammar nazi.

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#22 dragonpuppy
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[QUOTE="dragonpuppy"][QUOTE="MADVLAD123"]

[QUOTE="Ragashahs"]yes we get you have add and can't sit still what else is newMADVLAD123

wow that makes no sense to me i dont understand what you said look at me im typing like you for comedic effect does anyone else see that i hope you do i dont type like this all the time anyway care to rephrase your post because i didnt understand at all as for the topic at hand i know what you mean tc.

What Ragashahs is saying is that TC has Attention-Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (aka ADD or ADHD). When someone has this disorder, they usually can't sit still for more than mere moments at a time. They always have to do something. There's your tid-bit for the day.

No, I knew what he was saying. You have to read between the lines. I was actually commenting on the general lack of grammar and coherence in the sentence (i.e capitalization, commas, question marks...). I'm kind of a grammar nazi.

Well if you type like him then no one will get what you're talking about either. :P

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#23 foxhound_fox
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Nope...played MGS2 and 3...they had cutscenes, but not MGS4 long cutscenes. Adonymous

You must not have because both those games are exactly like you described. And MGS2 had especially long cutscenes at the opening of the Big Shell. The first 2 hours of that portion of the game was about 85% cutscene and codec conversations.
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#24 MADVLAD123
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[QUOTE="MADVLAD123"][QUOTE="dragonpuppy"][QUOTE="MADVLAD123"]

[QUOTE="Ragashahs"]yes we get you have add and can't sit still what else is newdragonpuppy

wow that makes no sense to me i dont understand what you said look at me im typing like you for comedic effect does anyone else see that i hope you do i dont type like this all the time anyway care to rephrase your post because i didnt understand at all as for the topic at hand i know what you mean tc.

What Ragashahs is saying is that TC has Attention-Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (aka ADD or ADHD). When someone has this disorder, they usually can't sit still for more than mere moments at a time. They always have to do something. There's your tid-bit for the day.

No, I knew what he was saying. You have to read between the lines. I was actually commenting on the general lack of grammar and coherence in the sentence (i.e capitalization, commas, question marks...). I'm kind of a grammar nazi.

Well if you type like him then no one will get what you're talking about either. :P

That was the purpose.

A quote from the mad ramblings of MadVlad: "look at me im typing like you for comedic effect does anyone else see that i hope you do i dont type like this all the time"

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#25 Zenkuso
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[QUOTE="Zenkuso"]

360 IS THE KING OF RPGS!

Shouldn't you lemmings be priasing cutscenes :p

And you can hit the start button and skip the cutscenes in MGS4, you aren't forced to watch them.

Adonymous

skipping the cut-scenes is dumb.

If you don't like the game and the cutscenes, you shouldn't have bought it.

Everyone knows metal gear solid is fulled with cutscenes, its impossible not to know when the series has been like that for over a decade!

So complaining about it when you bought the game is ultimately your own fault, no one elses, you should have research what you were buying, most people that hang around gaming forums don't simply walk into a shop an buy a random game, thats what casuals do.

The fact you sit here trolling proves your own failure.

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#26 GrindingAxe
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I think the cut scenes are way too long as well, but I knew that when I bought it. Its just something you have to deal with. Of course you could skip them, but that would leave you confused.
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#27 Adonymous
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[QUOTE="Adonymous"][QUOTE="Zenkuso"]

360 IS THE KING OF RPGS!

Shouldn't you lemmings be priasing cutscenes :p

And you can hit the start button and skip the cutscenes in MGS4, you aren't forced to watch them.

Zenkuso

skipping the cut-scenes is dumb.

If you don't like the game and the cutscenes, you shouldn't have bought it.

Everyone knows metal gear solid is fulled with cutscenes, its impossible not to know when the series has been like that for over a decade!

So complaining about it when you bought the game is ultimately your own fault, no one elses, you should have research what you were buying, most people that hang around gaming forums don't simply walk into a shop an buy a random game, thats what casuals do.

The fact you sit here trolling proves your own failure.

I knew MGS was cut-scenes, but not to this extent. MGSIV has less gameplay than other MGS's, and way more cutscenes...

its like an interactive movie.

I have no clue how this game got a 10...I mean the gameplay is like i said before...an afterthought.

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#28 foxhound_fox
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I knew MGS was cut-scenes, but not to this extent. MGSIV has less gameplay than other MGS's, and way more cutscenes...

its like an interactive movie.

I have no clue how this game got a 10...I mean the gameplay is like i said before...an afterthought.

Adonymous

But see, that was the intention of Kojima's design, to make an interactive movie game. And I hear it does it fantastically well.
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#29 Zenkuso
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I knew MGS was cut-scenes, but not to this extent. MGSIV has less gameplay than other MGS's, and way more cutscenes...

its like an interactive movie.

I have no clue how this game got a 10...I mean the gameplay is like i said before...an afterthought.

Adonymous

Thats an outright lie!

MGS4 has the most gameplay in the series, if you speed rush any of the games you'll find you can beat them in 4-5 hours. To wrap up the whole story of metal gear solid in 9 hours of cutscenes and on average of 8-10hours of gameplay depending how your playing style would have been hard enough for them considering all the ties they had to finish.

You could claim that any game with a story is an interactive movie...

The gameplay an after thought...

GTFO troll.

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#30 Adonymous
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[QUOTE="Adonymous"]

I knew MGS was cut-scenes, but not to this extent. MGSIV has less gameplay than other MGS's, and way more cutscenes...

its like an interactive movie.

I have no clue how this game got a 10...I mean the gameplay is like i said before...an afterthought.

foxhound_fox


But see, that was the intention of Kojima's design, to make an interactive movie game. And I hear it does it fantastically well.

hardly, have you played it?

its a joke...you watch this amazing cutscene, where snake is doing this jaw-dropping CQC moves, then you get to gameplay...and its like...wow I can press x to jump forward, or to the side, i can punch, shoot...and that's it....the gameplay is really lacking.

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#31 C_BozkurT_C
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[QUOTE="C_BozkurT_C"][QUOTE="Great_Ragnarok"]that game doesn;t deserve 10!Gen007

no game deserves a perfect 10

yay best post of the day and MGS has always been like that i remember almost falling asleep on the mGS 2 ending i still love it though

most perfect 10's are handed out solely on hype, which dies down shortly after the game's release.
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#32 Adonymous
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[QUOTE="Adonymous"]

I knew MGS was cut-scenes, but not to this extent. MGSIV has less gameplay than other MGS's, and way more cutscenes...

its like an interactive movie.

I have no clue how this game got a 10...I mean the gameplay is like i said before...an afterthought.

Zenkuso

Thats an outright lie!

MGS4 has the most gameplay in the series, if you speed rush any of the games you'll find you can beat them in 4-5 hours. To wrap up the whole story of metal gear solid in 9 hours of cutscenes and on average of 8-10hours of gameplay depending how your playing style would have been hard enough for them considering all the ties they had to finish.

You could claim that any game with a story is an interactive movie...

The gameplay an after thought...

GTFO troll.

Umm...many games have great stories (BioShock for example), and aren't 50% cut-scene.

Dude just admit it, the game has too many cut-scenes, even for an MGS game...and the gameplay is meh.

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#33 foxhound_fox
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hardly, have you played it?

its a joke...you watch this amazing cutscene, where snake is doing this jaw-dropping CQC moves, then you get to gameplay...and its like...wow I can press x to jump forward, or to the side, i can punch, shoot...and that's it....the gameplay is really lacking.

Adonymous

No I haven't and I am a big MGS fan. It's what the series has always been about. If you aren't a fan, chances are you will despise the games. That is the fact of the MGS series.
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#34 foxhound_fox
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Umm...many games have great stories (BioShock for example), and aren't 50% cut-scene.

Dude just admit it, the game has too many cut-scenes, even for an MGS game...and the gameplay is meh.

Adonymous

It was a great story in System Shock 2 but felt pretty empty in BioShock.
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#35 Evz0rz
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Thanks for sharing your opinion TC, but I strongly disagree. If you have been a fan of the past MGS games, you should find the cutscenes very enjoyable. So I'm guessing you aren't a MGS fan.
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#36 Adonymous
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[QUOTE="Adonymous"]hardly, have you played it?

its a joke...you watch this amazing cutscene, where snake is doing this jaw-dropping CQC moves, then you get to gameplay...and its like...wow I can press x to jump forward, or to the side, i can punch, shoot...and that's it....the gameplay is really lacking.

foxhound_fox


No I haven't and I am a big MGS fan. It's what the series has always been about. If you aren't a fan, chances are you will despise the games. That is the fact of the MGS series.

well there you go, you haven't played the game, how can you know?

I am a fan...always have been...but this game is just too much.

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They may be long, but they are for sure awesome.
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#38 Adonymous
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They may be long, but they are for sure awesome.ArisShadows

they are awesome, but their awesomeness does not carry into when you get control of snake.

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#39 foxhound_fox
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well there you go, you haven't played the game, how can you know?

I am a fan...always have been...but this game is just too much.Adonymous


From what I hear from pretty much every MGS out there, it is everything they expected and more. You must be one of the select few.

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[QUOTE="ArisShadows"]They may be long, but they are for sure awesome.Adonymous

they are awesome, but their awesomeness does not carry into when you get control of snake.

Hmm?

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#41 Adonymous
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[QUOTE="Adonymous"]well there you go, you haven't played the game, how can you know?

I am a fan...always have been...but this game is just too much.foxhound_fox


From what I hear from pretty much every MGS out there, it is everything they expected and more. You must be one of the select few.

would you expect a diehard fan to really point out the bad in a game?
until you've played the game yourself you won't know.

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[QUOTE="ArisShadows"]They may be long, but they are for sure awesome.Adonymous

they are awesome, but their awesomeness does not carry into when you get control of snake.

You realize you are trying to change your argument? First, you are saying you don't like the cutscenes, but know you are saying they are awesome but don't translate into gameplay. So which is it? Also, if you don't like how the cutscenes look cooler than the gameplay, but say you liked the other installments in the series, you are leading me to believe you haven't even played another MGS game before

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#43 Adonymous
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[QUOTE="Adonymous"]

[QUOTE="ArisShadows"]They may be long, but they are for sure awesome.Evz0rz

they are awesome, but their awesomeness does not carry into when you get control of snake.

You realize you are trying to change your argument? First, you are saying you don't like the cutscenes, but know you are saying they are awesome but don't translate into gameplay. So which is it? Also, if you don't like how the cutscenes look cooler than the gameplay, but say you liked the other installments in the series, you are leading me to believe you haven't even played another MGS game before

The game has awesome cut-scenes (I never said it didn't), I'm saying thought, that they are EXCESSIVE. For every 5 minutes of gameplay, there's 15minutes of cut-scenes or non-gameplay.

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#44 Zenkuso
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[QUOTE="Zenkuso"][QUOTE="Adonymous"]

I knew MGS was cut-scenes, but not to this extent. MGSIV has less gameplay than other MGS's, and way more cutscenes...

its like an interactive movie.

I have no clue how this game got a 10...I mean the gameplay is like i said before...an afterthought.

Adonymous

Thats an outright lie!

MGS4 has the most gameplay in the series, if you speed rush any of the games you'll find you can beat them in 4-5 hours. To wrap up the whole story of metal gear solid in 9 hours of cutscenes and on average of 8-10hours of gameplay depending how your playing style would have been hard enough for them considering all the ties they had to finish.

You could claim that any game with a story is an interactive movie...

The gameplay an after thought...

GTFO troll.

Umm...many games have great stories (BioShock for example), and aren't 50% cut-scene.

Dude just admit it, the game has too many cut-scenes, even for an MGS game...and the gameplay is meh.

It didn't, it was made for fans!

You apparently a fan and you hate the cutscenes, the story for being wrapped up for solid snakes saga!

Don't bring that junk bioshock into this arguement, dues ex and system shock 2 are great stories! That junk is extremely easy to follow, predictable and the gameplay is lackster mediocre version of system shock 2.

Your asking that a game that uses cutscenes to tell its story to suddenly change its medium of story telling to something that would translate it into having next to little story?

great idea

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#45 Evz0rz
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[QUOTE="Evz0rz"][QUOTE="Adonymous"]

[QUOTE="ArisShadows"]They may be long, but they are for sure awesome.Adonymous

they are awesome, but their awesomeness does not carry into when you get control of snake.

You realize you are trying to change your argument? First, you are saying you don't like the cutscenes, but know you are saying they are awesome but don't translate into gameplay. So which is it? Also, if you don't like how the cutscenes look cooler than the gameplay, but say you liked the other installments in the series, you are leading me to believe you haven't even played another MGS game before

The game has awesome cut-scenes (I never said it didn't), I'm saying thought, that they are EXCESSIVE. For every 5 minutes of gameplay, there's 15minutes of cut-scenes or non-gameplay.

I'm not trying to turn this into a hateful argument, but by your logic that means there is more cutscenes than gameplay, which is false. Also, if the cutscenes are awesome, who cares is they are excessive. I looked forward to pretty much every cutscene in the game. I admittedly started skipping the codec chats with drebin after the bossfights.

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#46 Adonymous
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It didn't, it was made for fans!

You apparently a fan and you hate the cutscenes, the story for being wrapped up for solid snakes saga!

Don't bring that junk bioshock into this arguement, dues ex and system shock 2 are great stories! That junk is extremely easy to follow, predictable and the gameplay is lackster mediocre version of system shock 2.

Your asking that a game that uses cutscenes to tell its story to suddenly change its medium of story telling to something that would translate it into having next to little story?

great idea

Zenkuso

selective reading FTW :roll:

I said the cut-scenes are all fine and dandy...but there's too many of them....way too many of them...

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#47 Zenkuso
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[QUOTE="Zenkuso"]

It didn't, it was made for fans!

You apparently a fan and you hate the cutscenes, the story for being wrapped up for solid snakes saga!

Don't bring that junk bioshock into this arguement, dues ex and system shock 2 are great stories! That junk is extremely easy to follow, predictable and the gameplay is lackster mediocre version of system shock 2.

Your asking that a game that uses cutscenes to tell its story to suddenly change its medium of story telling to something that would translate it into having next to little story?

great idea

Adonymous

selective reading FTW :roll:

I said the cut-scenes are all fine and dandy...but there's too many of them....way too many of them...

You say the cutscenes are fine an dandy and then rip them, then you complain about the length.

There aren't way to many, its wraps up the whole saga of the last 5 games!

Congrats on them doing it with only 9 hours of cutscenes, you can call that excessive but for finishing everything and wrapping up the whole saga it was fine.

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#48 yoshi_64
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I felt most of these cutscenes were balanced well. In the beginning they were a lot, but when you reach a goal, you get the movies more so. In the end, they start flooding your butt, but I enjoyed them.
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#49 ocinom
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What's the point of playing games when all you see is cut-scenes? That's why we call it videogames and not moviegames. Did I place my controller flat on the floor when Mantis told me to do so........Oh yes I did :lol:
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#50 jonesy1911
Member since 2003 • 3483 Posts

OH MY GOD!!!

5 minute cutscene, walk down the hallway (15 sec), 3 minute cutscene, as soon as its over 5 minute CODEC convo, then another cutscence, which leads into one of those weird cutscences, then a solid 4 minutes of gameplay, and then another 30 minutes of cutscenes, Codec convos...gahh...

Seriously...too much. MGS4 should have just been a movie.

Adonymous

Maybe you just didnt know what you was getting yourself into, MGS has always been about the story and cutscenes with some top notch gameplay mixxed in, in the later levels of MGS4 it's more gameplay than cutscene.

But seriously who plays an MGS game and not realise it's going to be cutscene heavy?