MGS4 graphics = not that great

From all the hype, I thought MGS4's graphics would be beyond anything yet seen on a console. Boy was I underwhelmed. The PS3's lack of Video RAM strikes again, with horrible, blurry textures giving everything a flat appearance, and lack of HDR lighting making everything appear quite dull.

I will say the game's special effects, character models and art direction are quite good. But anyone who says it looks better than the average UE3 360 game (eg. Gears of War, Mass Effect, etc.) needs their eyes checked.

1) Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots' graphics truthfully are great. Seriously, very great.

2) Gears of War's graphics are better.

3) This is Sparta.

Would you say it beats COD 4 in graphics?pilotc

I would dare

God i wish Stage6 was still up i would defently upload a video of the motorcycle chase scene

or Raiden Vs. Vamp

Or snake crawling through that tunnel

Or the Scene going out of the tunnel With REX then fighting RAY

Would you say it beats COD 4 in graphics?pilotc

Would you say it beats COD 4 in graphics?pilotc

Still got a 10 here and that is all tha matters.howell1972

lol at fanboyism. whenever someone critisizes mgs4 fanboys go "who cares, it got a 10 here" lol. there's a world outside gamspot too, just so you know :|

From all the hype, I thought MGS4's graphics would be beyond anything yet seen on a console. Boy was I underwhelmed. The PS3's lack of Video RAM strikes again, with horrible, blurry textures giving everything a flat appearance, and lack of HDR lighting making everything appear quite dull.

I will say the game's special effects, character models and art direction are quite good. But anyone who says it looks better than the average UE3 360 game (eg. Gears of War, Mass Effect, etc.) needs their eyes checked.

UnnDunn

Have you played Uncharted? Ignorance at its best.

MGS4 is a graphically solid game, it's no Uncharted but there are moments when you really get blown away from a visual point of view. It does have bland textures here and there but overal its a perfect package and delivers on every criteria

From all the hype, I thought MGS4's graphics would be beyond anything yet seen on a console. Boy was I underwhelmed. The PS3's lack of Video RAM strikes again, with horrible, blurry textures giving everything a flat appearance, and lack of HDR lighting making everything appear quite dull.

I will say the game's special effects, character models and art direction are quite good. But anyone who says it looks better than the average UE3 360 game (eg. Gears of War, Mass Effect, etc.) needs their eyes checked.

UnnDunn

Still in damage control? It got a 10, get over it. Cows already did. Let it go.

Still got a 10 here and that is all tha matters.howell1972

Hah! Wrong. In fact, I don't even think graphics matter that much. If it's fun, you should play it and enjoy it for what it is.

OMG, how many times are we gonna talk about MGS4? it is the console graphic king.

I have to disagree with you on this, don't forget to click on the last comment. :)

Gamespot on MGS4 :"Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots is the most technically stunning video game ever made. It's also a fine example of storytelling prowess within its medium, combining gameplay and narrative so slickly and beautifully that it's impossible to extricate one from the other. It's likely you will emerge awestruck from your first play-through, wishing the experience would continue yet nonetheless satisfied with its conclusion. It's difficult not to sound hyperbolic when discussing MGS4 because every part of its design seemingly fulfills its vision, without compromise. There is no halfway. "

Link.

IGN on MGS4: "It's apparent that Guns of the Patriots squeezes every pixel possible out of the PS3 and renders them beautifully. As a result, players are witnesses to one of the finest games ever created on any console or PC. Character models are large and impressively rendered in real time, and transitions between cutscenes and gameplay are seamless and natural. What's more, certain action sequences are just as sharp and framed as well as many Hollywood action movies."

Link.

They are the biggest two sites in the gaming industry and they both agree on MGS4's graphical prowess and they both scored 10 so yes, MGS4 is the best there is so far and it gives you the impression of Hollywood movies.

Uncharted is one of the best looking games but technically it didn't deliver like MGS4, it has stunning visuals because it is on small scales but thats it's only strong point and at the same time it's weakness.

1. Uncharted cutscenes does not use in-game engine, MGS4 uses it and it transitions very well from cutscenes to gameplay and it is like playing cg quality game all the way to the end.
2. Character models of Uncharted are inferior to MGS4 character models, voice acting is better and overall motion captured acting was stunning, in cutscenes if you zoom in to the eyes of each character whlie they are talking you will see how they react with their eyes, no other game done that before.
3. the scale of Uncharted is small, the scale of MGS4 is very big and open-ended which makes different approaches every time you play through it.
4. In Uncharted there are maybe 3 to 5 enemies shows up in screen every fight, in MGS4 enemies could go between 8 to 10 and the frame-rate is always constant and above all of that you would see explosions and rebels with you fighting and some destructible environments.
5. Every footsteps shows up and counts if enemy patrol watches your footsteps they search for you.
6. Getting wet just like Uncharted if there is water and snow.
7. your footstep noise could be heard by other enemies or if you play online you know there is someone near you running so the slower you walk or crouching the more silent you become, that is a technical achievement.
8. the fact that your camouflage works very well in real-time with every object with out looking awful or weird is really stunning.
9. That comparison goes also to GeOW.

MGS4 is the console graphic king

/thread.

i for one loved the graphics and thought they were the best ive seen in a while... (never played Uncharted, beat GeOW)

But since when does graphics make a game a great game??

i for one loved the graphics and thought they were the best ive seen in a while... (never played Uncharted, beat GeOW)

But since when does graphics make a game a great game??

johneese

Because haters of MGS4 doesn't have any stand point to bash MGS4 so they went for it's graphics and Im owning each one of them in their own game :lol:

OMG, how many times are we gonna talk about MGS4? it is the console graphic king.

I have to disagree with you on this, don't forget to click on the last comment. :)

Gamespot on MGS4 :"Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots is the most technically stunning video game ever made. It's also a fine example of storytelling prowess within its medium, combining gameplay and narrative so slickly and beautifully that it's impossible to extricate one from the other. It's likely you will emerge awestruck from your first play-through, wishing the experience would continue yet nonetheless satisfied with its conclusion. It's difficult not to sound hyperbolic when discussing MGS4 because every part of its design seemingly fulfills its vision, without compromise. There is no halfway. "

Link.

IGN on MGS4: "It's apparent that Guns of the Patriots squeezes every pixel possible out of the PS3 and renders them beautifully. As a result, players are witnesses to one of the finest games ever created on any console or PC. Character models are large and impressively rendered in real time, and transitions between cutscenes and gameplay are seamless and natural. What's more, certain action sequences are just as sharp and framed as well as many Hollywood action movies."

Link.

They are the biggest two sites in the gaming industry and they both agree on MGS4's graphical prowess and they both scored 10 so yes, MGS4 is the best there is so far and it gives you the impression of Hollywood movies.

Uncharted is one of the best looking games but technically it didn't deliver like MGS4, it has stunning visuals because it is on small scales but thats it's only strong point and at the same time it's weakness.

Uncharted cutscenes does not use in-game engine, MGS4 uses it and it transitions very well from cutscenes to gameplay and it is like playing cg quality game all the way to the end.Character models of Uncharted are inferior to MGS4 character models, voice acting is better and overall motion captured acting was stunning, in cutscenes if you zoom in to the eyes of each character whlie they are talking you will see how they react with their eyes, no other game done that before.the scale of Uncharted is small, the scale of MGS4 is very big and open-ended which makes different approaches every time you play through it.In Uncharted there are maybe 3 to 5 enemies shows up in screen every fight, in MGS4 enemies could go between 8 to 10 and the frame-rate is always constant and above all of that you would see explosions and rebels with you fighting and some destructible environments.Every footsteps shows up and counts if enemy patrol watches your footsteps they search for you.Getting wet just like Uncharted if there is water and snow.your footstep noise could be heard by other enemies or if you play online you know there is someone near you running so the slower you walk or crouching the more silent you become, that is a technical achievement.the fact that your camouflage works very well in real-time with every object with out looking awful or weird is really stunning.That comparison goes also to GeOW.

MGS4 is the console graphic king

/thread.

HAZE-Unit

you act like opinions are facts :lol:

OMG, how many times are we gonna talk about MGS4? it is the console graphic king.

I have to disagree with you on this, don't forget to click on the last comment. :)

Gamespot on MGS4 :"Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots is the most technically stunning video game ever made. It's also a fine example of storytelling prowess within its medium, combining gameplay and narrative so slickly and beautifully that it's impossible to extricate one from the other. It's likely you will emerge awestruck from your first play-through, wishing the experience would continue yet nonetheless satisfied with its conclusion. It's difficult not to sound hyperbolic when discussing MGS4 because every part of its design seemingly fulfills its vision, without compromise. There is no halfway. "

Link.

IGN on MGS4: "It's apparent that Guns of the Patriots squeezes every pixel possible out of the PS3 and renders them beautifully. As a result, players are witnesses to one of the finest games ever created on any console or PC. Character models are large and impressively rendered in real time, and transitions between cutscenes and gameplay are seamless and natural. What's more, certain action sequences are just as sharp and framed as well as many Hollywood action movies."

Link.

They are the biggest two sites in the gaming industry and they both agree on MGS4's graphical prowess and they both scored 10 so yes, MGS4 is the best there is so far and it gives you the impression of Hollywood movies.

Uncharted is one of the best looking games but technically it didn't deliver like MGS4, it has stunning visuals because it is on small scales but thats it's only strong point and at the same time it's weakness.

1. Uncharted cutscenes does not use in-game engine, MGS4 uses it and it transitions very well from cutscenes to gameplay and it is like playing cg quality game all the way to the end.
2. Character models of Uncharted are inferior to MGS4 character models, voice acting is better and overall motion captured acting was stunning, in cutscenes if you zoom in to the eyes of each character whlie they are talking you will see how they react with their eyes, no other game done that before.
3. the scale of Uncharted is small, the scale of MGS4 is very big and open-ended which makes different approaches every time you play through it.
4. In Uncharted there are maybe 3 to 5 enemies shows up in screen every fight, in MGS4 enemies could go between 8 to 10 and the frame-rate is always constant and above all of that you would see explosions and rebels with you fighting and some destructible environments.
5. Every footsteps shows up and counts if enemy patrol watches your footsteps they search for you.
6. Getting wet just like Uncharted if there is water and snow.
7. your footstep noise could be heard by other enemies or if you play online you know there is someone near you running so the slower you walk or crouching the more silent you become, that is a technical achievement.
8. the fact that your camouflage works very well in real-time with every object with out looking awful or weird is really stunning.
9. That comparison goes also to GeOW.

MGS4 is the console graphic king

/thread.

HAZE-Unit

lol even that this is the best pics you find the textures still look like crap

[QUOTE="johneese"]

i for one loved the graphics and thought they were the best ive seen in a while... (never played Uncharted, beat GeOW)

But since when does graphics make a game a great game??

HAZE-Unit

Because haters of MGS4 doesn't have any stand point to bash MGS4 so they went for it's graphics and Im owning each one of them in their own game :lol:

so i'm a mgs4 hater now? because i dont think it looks as good as you say? :lol:

OMG, how many times are we gonna talk about MGS4? it is the console graphic king.

I have to disagree with you on this, don't forget to click on the last comment. :)

Gamespot on MGS4 :"Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots is the most technically stunning video game ever made. It's also a fine example of storytelling prowess within its medium, combining gameplay and narrative so slickly and beautifully that it's impossible to extricate one from the other. It's likely you will emerge awestruck from your first play-through, wishing the experience would continue yet nonetheless satisfied with its conclusion. It's difficult not to sound hyperbolic when discussing MGS4 because every part of its design seemingly fulfills its vision, without compromise. There is no halfway. "

Link.

IGN on MGS4: "It's apparent that Guns of the Patriots squeezes every pixel possible out of the PS3 and renders them beautifully. As a result, players are witnesses to one of the finest games ever created on any console or PC. Character models are large and impressively rendered in real time, and transitions between cutscenes and gameplay are seamless and natural. What's more, certain action sequences are just as sharp and framed as well as many Hollywood action movies."

Link.

They are the biggest two sites in the gaming industry and they both agree on MGS4's graphical prowess and they both scored 10 so yes, MGS4 is the best there is so far and it gives you the impression of Hollywood movies.

HAZE-Unit

I don't see the point of continuously posting that over and over again. That right there is the opinions of two separate revieweres, two individuals, now..care to explain to me how their opinion is somehow more valuable than the opinion of any other gamer?

The only game that I haven't seen in close-up yet or played is Uncharted.

Yes, Metal Gear Solid 4 does look fantastic, especially in the character model area. However comparing it to games such as Mass Effect in that very area it's quite a toss up between the two and imo not such a gargantuan difference as those reviewers claim. The lightning and especially the environmental texture in MGS 4 are also not quite as impressive as I had been lead to think till I finally got to play the game.

IGN and Gamespot are not Gods, their word is not law, they are each a batch of gaming journalist that excel in expressing their opinions concerning different games. The reasons as to why they are highly respected is because they tend to generally write great and satisfactory reviews as well as providing excellent coverage on games. Another source of high regard may be simply due to the nature of their scoring and how well these scores of particuar games match the opinions of quite a large group of gamers; one of the main reasons as to why I was attracted to Gamespot in the first place. They handed out scores that I myself found to be a realistic grade of how I myself would score the reviewed game in question. Thus I use these sites merely as guidance; and quite often their opinions and my opinions do not exactly match; this is a particular case.

I played the game and made my own judgement, what IGN, Gamespot or X gaming site/magazine says is moot.

And as someone previously mentioned opinions are not equivalent to fact.

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"][QUOTE="johneese"]

i for one loved the graphics and thought they were the best ive seen in a while... (never played Uncharted, beat GeOW)

But since when does graphics make a game a great game??

facebooker

Because haters of MGS4 doesn't have any stand point to bash MGS4 so they went for it's graphics and Im owning each one of them in their own game :lol:

so i'm a mgs4 hater now? because i dont think it looks as good as you say? :lol:

im now convinced that MGS fanboys are the most rabid fans of any series. most of them cant fathom the idea of someone NOT liking MGS.... and if you dont like MGS it MUST mean that you have bad tastes in games. its quite comical actually...

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"][QUOTE="johneese"]

i for one loved the graphics and thought they were the best ive seen in a while... (never played Uncharted, beat GeOW)

But since when does graphics make a game a great game??

facebooker

Because haters of MGS4 doesn't have any stand point to bash MGS4 so they went for it's graphics and Im owning each one of them in their own game :lol:

so i'm a mgs4 hater now? because i dont think it looks as good as you say? :lol:

It is not my opnion only so yea you are a hater.

MGS4 graphics are great but not Geow or Uncharted greatEPaul

This is probably the only reasonable answer aside from a few others. I will say this though; The game has the best character models for consoles. They seem to put most of their detail into them.

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

OMG, how many times are we gonna talk about MGS4? it is the console graphic king.

I have to disagree with you on this, don't forget to click on the last comment. :)

Gamespot on MGS4 :"Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots is the most technically stunning video game ever made. It's also a fine example of storytelling prowess within its medium, combining gameplay and narrative so slickly and beautifully that it's impossible to extricate one from the other. It's likely you will emerge awestruck from your first play-through, wishing the experience would continue yet nonetheless satisfied with its conclusion. It's difficult not to sound hyperbolic when discussing MGS4 because every part of its design seemingly fulfills its vision, without compromise. There is no halfway. "

Link.

IGN on MGS4:"It's apparent that Guns of the Patriots squeezes every pixel possible out of the PS3 and renders them beautifully. As a result, players are witnesses to one of the finest games ever created on any console or PC. Character models are large and impressively rendered in real time, and transitions between cutscenes and gameplay are seamless and natural. What's more, certain action sequences are just as sharp and framed as well as many Hollywood action movies."

Link.

They are the biggest two sites in the gaming industry and they both agree on MGS4's graphical prowess and they both scored 10 so yes, MGS4 is the best there is so far and it gives you the impression of Hollywood movies.

ToScA-

I don't see the point of continuously posting that over and over again. That right there is the opinions of two separate revieweres, two individuals, now..care to explain to me how their opinion is somehow more valuable than the opinion of any other gamer?

The only game that I haven't seen in close-up yet or played is Uncharted.

Yes, Metal Gear Solid 4 does look fantastic, especially in the character model area. However comparing it to games such as Mass Effect in that very area it's quite a toss up between the two and imonot such a gargantuan difference as those reviewers claim. The lightning and especially the environmental texture in MGS 4 are also not quite as impressive as I had been lead to think till I finally got to play the game.

IGN and Gamespot are not Gods, their word is not law, they are each a batch of gaming journalist that excel in expressing their opinions concerning different games. The reasons as to why they are highly respected is because they tend to generally write great and satisfactory reviews as well as providing excellent coverage on games. Another source of high regard may be simply due to the nature of their scoring and how well these scores of particuar games match the opinions of quite a large group of gamers; one of the main reasons as to why I was attracted to Gamespot in the first place. They handed out scores that I myself found to be a realistic grade of how I myself would score the reviewed game in question. Thus I use these sites merely as guidance; and quite often their opinions and my opinions do not exactly match; this is a particular case.

I played the game and made my own judgement, what IGN, Gamespot or X gaming site/magazine says is moot.

And as someone previously mentioned opinions are not equivalent to fact.

Let me put it this way, if someone is wrong and I have to prove that, how could I possibly do it without any proof?

If all they say "it is my own opinion" and "your opinion doesn't matter", then how could I possibly debate with such a silly individual.

I've provided my own opinion on the game with deep explanation why it is the best at graphics, nobody explained why MGS4 graphics are worse than other games including you, I've also provided two of the most respected opinions on the gaming industry and a poll that is declared the console graphics king, if someone disagree with all of this then he/she is blind.

uncharted still holds the console crown based on pure graphics, drake has twice the poly count as marcus had and still high res textures and 2xmsaa, etc.

but MGS4 isnt that far behind which is an achievement considering the game has so much going on, there can be over a NPC on screen at any given time and explosions galore and the framerate still maintains a steady beat. it hits around 60fps as well in places, neither gears nor uncharted achieves many of these things.

but based on pure textures, yea its not the best.
Mandingo101

OMG, how many times are we gonna talk about MGS4? it is the console graphic king.

I have to disagree with you on this, don't forget to click on the last comment. :)

Gamespot on MGS4 :"Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots is the most technically stunning video game ever made. It's also a fine example of storytelling prowess within its medium, combining gameplay and narrative so slickly and beautifully that it's impossible to extricate one from the other. It's likely you will emerge awestruck from your first play-through, wishing the experience would continue yet nonetheless satisfied with its conclusion. It's difficult not to sound hyperbolic when discussing MGS4 because every part of its design seemingly fulfills its vision, without compromise. There is no halfway. "

Link.

IGN on MGS4: "It's apparent that Guns of the Patriots squeezes every pixel possible out of the PS3 and renders them beautifully. As a result, players are witnesses to one of the finest games ever created on any console or PC. Character models are large and impressively rendered in real time, and transitions between cutscenes and gameplay are seamless and natural. What's more, certain action sequences are just as sharp and framed as well as many Hollywood action movies."

Link.

They are the biggest two sites in the gaming industry and they both agree on MGS4's graphical prowess and they both scored 10 so yes, MGS4 is the best there is so far and it gives you the impression of Hollywood movies.

Uncharted is one of the best looking games but technically it didn't deliver like MGS4, it has stunning visuals because it is on small scales but thats it's only strong point and at the same time it's weakness.

1. Uncharted cutscenes does not use in-game engine, MGS4 uses it and it transitions very well from cutscenes to gameplay and it is like playing cg quality game all the way to the end.
2. Character models of Uncharted are inferior to MGS4 character models, voice acting is better and overall motion captured acting was stunning, in cutscenes if you zoom in to the eyes of each character whlie they are talking you will see how they react with their eyes, no other game done that before.
3. the scale of Uncharted is small, the scale of MGS4 is very big and open-ended which makes different approaches every time you play through it.
4. In Uncharted there are maybe 3 to 5 enemies shows up in screen every fight, in MGS4 enemies could go between 8 to 10 and the frame-rate is always constant and above all of that you would see explosions and rebels with you fighting and some destructible environments.
5. Every footsteps shows up and counts if enemy patrol watches your footsteps they search for you.
6. Getting wet just like Uncharted if there is water and snow.
7. your footstep noise could be heard by other enemies or if you play online you know there is someone near you running so the slower you walk or crouching the more silent you become, that is a technical achievement.
8. the fact that your camouflage works very well in real-time with every object with out looking awful or weird is really stunning.
9. That comparison goes also to GeOW.

MGS4 is the console graphic king

/thread.

HAZE-Unit

:lol: MGS4 looks a little better than Splinter cell double agent and SC isnt even the best looking game

Even this looks sometimes much better than MGS4

Let me put it this way, if someone is wrong and I have to prove that, how could I possibly do it without any proof?

HAZE-Unit

It's an opinion, how can an individuals opinion somehow be right or wrong? :| We're dealing with individuals' personal preference here, not facts; facts can be proven or disproven and in an area as subjective as what we're dealing with here there exist no such thing as objective as a fact. This is actually borderline attempting to factually debate which genre of music is the best; which is quite pointless.

If all they say "it is my own opinion" and "your opinion doesn't matter", then how could I possibly debate with such a silly individual.

HAZE-Unit

lol?

Try ignoring him and stick to your own opinion?

I've provided my own opinion on the game with deep explanation why it is the best at graphics, nobody explained why MGS4 graphics are worse than other games including you.

HAZE-Unit

There are a platorea of threads on posts on this board where people of different opinions have explicitly explained their stance on the subject. Look them up, many of them are on the front page.

I've also provided two of the most respected opinions on the gaming industry

HAZE-Unit

If you skipped my post above then I'll summarize it to you right here: I couldn't care less; their opinions are not law nor fact, I am a human being capable of making my own judgement on things. What part of this are you incapable of understanding?

and a poll that is declared the console graphics king, if someone disagree with all of this then he/she is blind.

HAZE-Unit

Having a different opinion than someone else or a miniscule majority (which inhabit a board roamed and ruled by a batch of rabid fanboys might I add) makes one blind then...I see. :|

OMG, how many times are we gonna talk about MGS4? it is the console graphic king.

I have to disagree with you on this, don't forget to click on the last comment. :)

Gamespot on MGS4 :"Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots is the most technically stunning video game ever made. It's also a fine example of storytelling prowess within its medium, combining gameplay and narrative so slickly and beautifully that it's impossible to extricate one from the other. It's likely you will emerge awestruck from your first play-through, wishing the experience would continue yet nonetheless satisfied with its conclusion. It's difficult not to sound hyperbolic when discussing MGS4 because every part of its design seemingly fulfills its vision, without compromise. There is no halfway. "

Link.

IGN on MGS4: "It's apparent that Guns of the Patriots squeezes every pixel possible out of the PS3 and renders them beautifully. As a result, players are witnesses to one of the finest games ever created on any console or PC. Character models are large and impressively rendered in real time, and transitions between cutscenes and gameplay are seamless and natural. What's more, certain action sequences are just as sharp and framed as well as many Hollywood action movies."

Link.

They are the biggest two sites in the gaming industry and they both agree on MGS4's graphical prowess and they both scored 10 so yes, MGS4 is the best there is so far and it gives you the impression of Hollywood movies.

Uncharted is one of the best looking games but technically it didn't deliver like MGS4, it has stunning visuals because it is on small scales but thats it's only strong point and at the same time it's weakness.

1. Uncharted cutscenes does not use in-game engine, MGS4 uses it and it transitions very well from cutscenes to gameplay and it is like playing cg quality game all the way to the end.
2. Character models of Uncharted are inferior to MGS4 character models, voice acting is better and overall motion captured acting was stunning, in cutscenes if you zoom in to the eyes of each character whlie they are talking you will see how they react with their eyes, no other game done that before.
3. the scale of Uncharted is small, the scale of MGS4 is very big and open-ended which makes different approaches every time you play through it.
4. In Uncharted there are maybe 3 to 5 enemies shows up in screen every fight, in MGS4 enemies could go between 8 to 10 and the frame-rate is always constant and above all of that you would see explosions and rebels with you fighting and some destructible environments.
5. Every footsteps shows up and counts if enemy patrol watches your footsteps they search for you.
6. Getting wet just like Uncharted if there is water and snow.
7. your footstep noise could be heard by other enemies or if you play online you know there is someone near you running so the slower you walk or crouching the more silent you become, that is a technical achievement.
8. the fact that your camouflage works very well in real-time with every object with out looking awful or weird is really stunning.
9. That comparison goes also to GeOW.

MGS4 is the console graphic king

/thread.

HAZE-Unit

Thread Over, Haze-Unit is right about this one.

im now convinced that MGS fanboys are the most rabid fans of any series. most of them cant fathom the idea of someone NOT liking MGS.... and if you dont like MGS it MUST mean that you have bad tastes in games. its quite comical actually...

ogvampire

IMO, the MGS4 graphics are the best graphics for any console game this gen. Looking at pics definitely do not do this game any justice. There is just too much going on while you're playing the game, so much so that staring at a wall or a floor and complaining about graphics is just a stupid thing to do. Yes, I've played and owned all the other games mentioned in this topic too and MGS4 is the best looking console game out(i'm not stating this as a fact since art direction and personal preference makes a big difference from gamer to gamer). tmntPunchout

So why do you care about the "awesome MGS4" graphics?

It looks better than anything my eyes have seen on a console. But then again I actually play the games, I don't sit around and stare at the walls and the floors. Character models are the most important part when it comes to graphics and MGS4 easily wins in that category. The texture bashing is really blown out of proportion anyway.

[QUOTE="tmntPunchout"]IMO, the MGS4 graphics are the best graphics for any console game this gen. Looking at pics definitely do not do this game any justice. There is just too much going on while you're playing the game, so much so that staring at a wall or a floor and complaining about graphics is just a stupid thing to do. Yes, I've played and owned all the other games mentioned in this topic too and MGS4 is the best looking console game out(i'm not stating this as a fact since art direction and personal preference makes a big difference from gamer to gamer). SpinoRaptor

So why do you care about the "awesome MGS4" graphics?

Wait, what? Are you misreading what I typed... You have to read the whole sentence to understood what I meant. I'll break it down for you.. STARING AT A WALL AND COMPLAINING ABOUT GRAPHICS IS A STUPID THING TO DO IF THERE IS MUCH MORE GOING ON AT THE SAME TIME ON THE REST OF THE SCREEN..

OMG, how many times are we gonna talk about MGS4? it is the console graphic king.

I have to disagree with you on this, don't forget to click on the last comment. :)

Gamespot on MGS4 :"Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots is the most technically stunning video game ever made. It's also a fine example of storytelling prowess within its medium, combining gameplay and narrative so slickly and beautifully that it's impossible to extricate one from the other. It's likely you will emerge awestruck from your first play-through, wishing the experience would continue yet nonetheless satisfied with its conclusion. It's difficult not to sound hyperbolic when discussing MGS4 because every part of its design seemingly fulfills its vision, without compromise. There is no halfway. "

Link.

IGN on MGS4: "It's apparent that Guns of the Patriots squeezes every pixel possible out of the PS3 and renders them beautifully. As a result, players are witnesses to one of the finest games ever created on any console or PC. Character models are large and impressively rendered in real time, and transitions between cutscenes and gameplay are seamless and natural. What's more, certain action sequences are just as sharp and framed as well as many Hollywood action movies."

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They are the biggest two sites in the gaming industry and they both agree on MGS4's graphical prowess and they both scored 10 so yes, MGS4 is the best there is so far and it gives you the impression of Hollywood movies.

Uncharted is one of the best looking games but technically it didn't deliver like MGS4, it has stunning visuals because it is on small scales but thats it's only strong point and at the same time it's weakness.

1. Uncharted cutscenes does not use in-game engine, MGS4 uses it and it transitions very well from cutscenes to gameplay and it is like playing cg quality game all the way to the end.
2. Character models of Uncharted are inferior to MGS4 character models, voice acting is better and overall motion captured acting was stunning, in cutscenes if you zoom in to the eyes of each character whlie they are talking you will see how they react with their eyes, no other game done that before.
3. the scale of Uncharted is small, the scale of MGS4 is very big and open-ended which makes different approaches every time you play through it.
4. In Uncharted there are maybe 3 to 5 enemies shows up in screen every fight, in MGS4 enemies could go between 8 to 10 and the frame-rate is always constant and above all of that you would see explosions and rebels with you fighting and some destructible environments.
5. Every footsteps shows up and counts if enemy patrol watches your footsteps they search for you.
6. Getting wet just like Uncharted if there is water and snow.
7. your footstep noise could be heard by other enemies or if you play online you know there is someone near you running so the slower you walk or crouching the more silent you become, that is a technical achievement.
8. the fact that your camouflage works very well in real-time with every object with out looking awful or weird is really stunning.
9. That comparison goes also to GeOW.

MGS4 is the console graphic king

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HAZE-Unit

Wow, and i was just going to say,"Quit the flamebait and play the game". But you just killed it.

Very convincing argument.

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[QUOTE="tmntPunchout"]IMO, the MGS4 graphics are the best graphics for any console game this gen. Looking at pics definitely do not do this game any justice. There is just too much going on while you're playing the game, so much so that staring at a wall or a floor and complaining about graphics is just a stupid thing to do. Yes, I've played and owned all the other games mentioned in this topic too and MGS4 is the best looking console game out(i'm not stating this as a fact since art direction and personal preference makes a big difference from gamer to gamer). tmntPunchout

So why do you care about the "awesome MGS4" graphics?

Wait, what? Are you misreading what I typed... You have to read the whole sentence to understood what I meant. I'll break it down for you.. STARING AT A WALL AND COMPLAINING ABOUT GRAPHICS IS A STUPID THING TO DO IF THERE IS MUCH MORE GOING ON AT THE SAME TIME ON THE REST OF THE SCREEN..

Sorry my bad. I just kinda woke up and my eyes are a bit blurry:?

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OMG, how many times are we gonna talk about MGS4? it is the console graphic king.

I have to disagree with you on this, don't forget to click on the last comment. :)

Gamespot on MGS4 :"Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots is the most technically stunning video game ever made. It's also a fine example of storytelling prowess within its medium, combining gameplay and narrative so slickly and beautifully that it's impossible to extricate one from the other. It's likely you will emerge awestruck from your first play-through, wishing the experience would continue yet nonetheless satisfied with its conclusion. It's difficult not to sound hyperbolic when discussing MGS4 because every part of its design seemingly fulfills its vision, without compromise. There is no halfway. "

Link.

IGN on MGS4:"It's apparent that Guns of the Patriots squeezes every pixel possible out of the PS3 and renders them beautifully. As a result, players are witnesses to one of the finest games ever created on any console or PC. Character models are large and impressively rendered in real time, and transitions between cutscenes and gameplay are seamless and natural. What's more, certain action sequences are just as sharp and framed as well as many Hollywood action movies."

Link.

They are the biggest two sites in the gaming industry and they both agree on MGS4's graphical prowess and they both scored 10 so yes, MGS4 is the best there is so far and it gives you the impression of Hollywood movies.

Uncharted is one of the best looking games but technically it didn't deliver like MGS4, it has stunning visuals because it is on small scales but thats it's only strong point and at the same time it's weakness.

MGS4 is the console graphic king

/thread.

[Hi folks! Another thing that people barely point about the game comparisson is its purpose. MGS4 was made to be realistc, to give us players, the experience of a battlefield, while other games such as Uncharted and GOW were made for pure fun. It is as if MGS4 is a serius game, it´s beyond of a hobby. If we look around th real world, the colors aren't that vivid as Uncharted, GOW, COD4, ..., but in MGS4, kojima looked for to recreat a closer to real life scenario. If we take that into consideration, PS3 is an amazing console, just as the 360. If we want to compare or judge a game, we must always take into consideration, it's purpose. This goes for any game of any console: an example: GT5's purpose diferent from Grid's, Motorstorm's, PGr4 and so on. But it has the same purpose of Forza 2, so they are comparable, and we all know the superiority of GT5. Another thing that must be said is about the Ps3 graphics settings: do we know if these rating sites configured to be full or limited? It makes a difference too! Thats pretty much what I have to say for now.

P.s. I am a foreigner, so I'm sorry for my lacking of grammar skills.