MGS4 Is The Best Game Of This Gen

I'll have to agree with you TC, and many critics will agree with this fact that MGS4 is the best game of this gen. Gamespot included.

Mozelleple112

[QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

So Mozelleple, here we are again in another MGS4 topic and you singing praises, telling everyone who disagrees they're wrong and ignoring my posts.

Remember when you said MGS4 was best in series due to sales and scores, but never responded when I brought up MGS2 higher sales and better scores? Still waiting for that response.

And since you're here and you are all knowing when it comes to MGS, could you maybe try to explain at least a few of the points I brought up in my previous post?

Thanks bud. :)

Mozelleple112

MGS2 = 96 @ Metacritic.

MGS4 = 94 @ Metacritic.

Metal Gear Solid 2 almost hit the 7 million mark when it was still a PS2 exclusive and while the PS2 install base was under 20 million. I thought a hard core MGS fan like yourself would know this. And MGS4 sold 6 mil? :lol: Show me that link bud.

And you are the one that initially implied sales = quality, not me.

But all that nonsense aside, I'd like to hear what you think of the previous points I brought up in this thread.

Nier disagrees.foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

So Mozelleple, here we are again in another MGS4 topic and you singing praises, telling everyone who disagrees they're wrong and ignoring my posts.

Remember when you said MGS4 was best in series due to sales and scores, but never responded when I brought up MGS2 higher sales and better scores? Still waiting for that response.

And since you're here and you are all knowing when it comes to MGS, could you maybe try to explain at least a few of the points I brought up in my previous post?

Thanks bud. :)

Wiimotefan

MGS2 = 96 @ Metacritic.

MGS4 = 94 @ Metacritic.

Metal Gear Solid 2 almost hit the 7 million mark when it was still a PS2 exclusive and while the PS2 install base was under 20 million. I thought a hard core MGS fan like yourself would know this. And MGS4 sold 6 mil? :lol: Show me that link bud.

And you are the one that initially implied sales = quality, not me.

But all that nonsense aside, I'd like to hear what you think of the previous points I brought up in this thread.

Good.. good.

Did you used to post on the Gamefaqs MGS boards?

No, Mass Effect 2 is.

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]

I'll have to agree with you TC, and many critics will agree with this fact that MGS4 is the best game of this gen. Gamespot included.

Am_Confucius

Exactly, SMG 97> MGS4 94 on metacritic. Looks like most critics don't agree.

[QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"] MGS4 10 > MGS2 9.6 GS MGS4 10 > MGS2 9.7 IGN. Sorry, MGS2 is my second favourite in the series and was the first Metal Gear game I played, only reason I played it was because it got a 9.6 and I wanted to find out what made this game a 9.6 as I thought it looked crappy, then I fell in love with the series. So MGS2 is a bucket full of nostaligia. A good, high AAA one of best games of 2001 game it is; but a AAAA, definitely best game of the generation it is not; unlike MGS4. MGS2 sold what, 7 million across PS2 (150 million install base) XBOX (25 million) and PC (millions) MGS4 sold 6 million on the PS3 alone, which is 50% more than MGS3 which also was PS- exclusive (until 3DS port in 2011) Sales=/= quality but what I meant is that MGS4 widened the audience..sandbox3d

MGS2 = 96 @ Metacritic.

MGS4 = 94 @ Metacritic.

Metal Gear Solid 2 almost hit the 7 million mark when it was still a PS2 exclusive and while the PS2 install base was under 20 million. I thought a hard core MGS fan like yourself would know this. And MGS4 sold 6 mil? :lol: Show me that link bud.

And you are the one that initially implied sales = quality, not me.

But all that nonsense aside, I'd like to hear what you think of the previous points I brought up in this thread.

Good.. good.

Did you used to post on the Gamefaqs MGS boards?

Yeah, ever since MGS2. Why do you ask?

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

So Mozelleple, here we are again in another MGS4 topic and you singing praises, telling everyone who disagrees they're wrong and ignoring my posts.

Remember when you said MGS4 was best in series due to sales and scores, but never responded when I brought up MGS2 higher sales and better scores? Still waiting for that response.

And since you're here and you are all knowing when it comes to MGS, could you maybe try to explain at least a few of the points I brought up in my previous post?

Thanks bud. :)

Wiimotefan

MGS2 = 96 @ Metacritic.

MGS4 = 94 @ Metacritic.

Metal Gear Solid 2 almost hit the 7 million mark when it was still a PS2 exclusive and while the PS2 install base was under 20 million. I thought a hard core MGS fan like yourself would know this. And MGS4 sold 6 mil? :lol: Show me that link bud.

And you are the one that initially implied sales = quality, not me.

But all that nonsense aside, I'd like to hear what you think of the previous points I brought up in this thread.

Gamepsot on the other hand COMPLETELY messed up their reviews, I don't even know what they were thinking (MGS4 is 100% spot-on) MGS2 is completely fine, but my f-ing god what did MGS1/3 do to the reviewers families to make them review like that :? :?

MGS4: 10 (Agreed)

MGS2 9.6 (I'll agree to this as well)

MGS3: 8.8 (Are you fvcking kidding me???)

MGS1: 8.5 (can't be serious :lol: )

[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

[QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

MGS2 = 96 @ Metacritic.

MGS4 = 94 @ Metacritic.

Metal Gear Solid 2 almost hit the 7 million mark when it was still a PS2 exclusive and while the PS2 install base was under 20 million. I thought a hard core MGS fan like yourself would know this. And MGS4 sold 6 mil? :lol: Show me that link bud.

And you are the one that initially implied sales = quality, not me.

But all that nonsense aside, I'd like to hear what you think of the previous points I brought up in this thread.

Wiimotefan

Good.. good.

Did you used to post on the Gamefaqs MGS boards?

Yeah, ever since MGS2. Why do you ask?

Just had a hunch. Its the way you argue about MGS reminds me of the old board. OnslaughtX, Lionhart, ACkid/Blaze, Majinsweet, Great_Sages, Klimtog, sevil_yelims, and all the "vetriots" lol. Those boards were more valuable than any debate class you could take.

What was your user name?

[QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"] MGS4 10 > MGS2 9.6 GS MGS4 10 > MGS2 9.7 IGN. Sorry, MGS2 is my second favourite in the series and was the first Metal Gear game I played, only reason I played it was because it got a 9.6 and I wanted to find out what made this game a 9.6 as I thought it looked crappy, then I fell in love with the series. So MGS2 is a bucket full of nostaligia. A good, high AAA one of best games of 2001 game it is; but a AAAA, definitely best game of the generation it is not; unlike MGS4. MGS2 sold what, 7 million across PS2 (150 million install base) XBOX (25 million) and PC (millions) MGS4 sold 6 million on the PS3 alone, which is 50% more than MGS3 which also was PS- exclusive (until 3DS port in 2011) Sales=/= quality but what I meant is that MGS4 widened the audience..Mozelleple112

MGS2 = 96 @ Metacritic.

MGS4 = 94 @ Metacritic.

Metal Gear Solid 2 almost hit the 7 million mark when it was still a PS2 exclusive and while the PS2 install base was under 20 million. I thought a hard core MGS fan like yourself would know this. And MGS4 sold 6 mil? :lol: Show me that link bud.

And you are the one that initially implied sales = quality, not me.

But all that nonsense aside, I'd like to hear what you think of the previous points I brought up in this thread.

Oh, so if you agree with the review, it's spot on. But anything else is "bullsh**".

[QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"] MGS4 10 > MGS2 9.6 GS MGS4 10 > MGS2 9.7 IGN. Sorry, MGS2 is my second favourite in the series and was the first Metal Gear game I played, only reason I played it was because it got a 9.6 and I wanted to find out what made this game a 9.6 as I thought it looked crappy, then I fell in love with the series. So MGS2 is a bucket full of nostaligia. A good, high AAA one of best games of 2001 game it is; but a AAAA, definitely best game of the generation it is not; unlike MGS4. MGS2 sold what, 7 million across PS2 (150 million install base) XBOX (25 million) and PC (millions) MGS4 sold 6 million on the PS3 alone, which is 50% more than MGS3 which also was PS- exclusive (until 3DS port in 2011) Sales=/= quality but what I meant is that MGS4 widened the audience..Mozelleple112

MGS2 = 96 @ Metacritic.

MGS4 = 94 @ Metacritic.

Metal Gear Solid 2 almost hit the 7 million mark when it was still a PS2 exclusive and while the PS2 install base was under 20 million. I thought a hard core MGS fan like yourself would know this. And MGS4 sold 6 mil? :lol: Show me that link bud.

And you are the one that initially implied sales = quality, not me.

But all that nonsense aside, I'd like to hear what you think of the previous points I brought up in this thread.

So either way I've proven you wrong, but lets quit dancing around scores and sales and jump into the meat of discussion. If MGS is so perfect I want you to refute my previous points. I dont know why you're so hesitant to really discuss the story and gameplay of a series you apparently know so well.

And no; I'm not going to argue against your points. Clearly, there's no amount of proof in the world that could convince you to change your god awful opinion.

MGS4 has the best story in any video game, BUT NOOOOPE, YOU WON'T ACCEPT.

MGS4 has the best voice acting in any video.. DERP, WON'T ACCEPT.

MGS4 has the best soundtracks in any video game; REJECTED BY YOU AGAIN.

Everything negative you say about MGS4 in reality is the exact opposite.

Your saying the best storyline in gaming is terrible, you're saying a superlative plot is the worst you've seen, etc etc..

Just face it. Both IGN and GS agree, MGS4 is the best in the franchise, which says a lot as it is the 7th iteration of the best franchise in the world.

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

MGS2 = 96 @ Metacritic.

MGS4 = 94 @ Metacritic.

Metal Gear Solid 2 almost hit the 7 million mark when it was still a PS2 exclusive and while the PS2 install base was under 20 million. I thought a hard core MGS fan like yourself would know this. And MGS4 sold 6 mil? :lol: Show me that link bud.

And you are the one that initially implied sales = quality, not me.

But all that nonsense aside, I'd like to hear what you think of the previous points I brought up in this thread.

Wiimotefan

So either way I've proven you wrong, but lets quit dancing around scores and sales and jump into the meat of discussion. If MGS is so perfect I want you to refute my previous points. I dont know why you're so hesitant to really discuss the story and gameplay of a series you apparently know so well.

[QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

Good.. good.

Did you used to post on the Gamefaqs MGS boards?

sandbox3d

Yeah, ever since MGS2. Why do you ask?

Just had a hunch. Its the way you argue about MGS reminds me of the old board. OnslaughtX, Lionhart, ACkid/Blaze, Majinsweet, Great_Sages, Klimtog, sevil_yelims, and all the "vetriots" lol. Those boards were more valuable than any debate class you could take.

What was your user name?

Oh my god, hell yes they were! lol.

And I haven't heard those names in a while. I think OnslaughtX still posts on occasion, but hes busy working at Insomniac now. Lionhart basically predicted everything that would go wrong in MGS4, laughed at everyone after launch and disappeared. I saw CamoSnake trolling some guys last week if you remember him. All the other vets are long gone as far as I know.

And I'd rather not share my name, sorry lol.

And no; I'm not going to argue against your points. Clearly, there's no amount of proof in the world that could convince you to change your god awful opinion.

Mozelleple112

There are both facts and well supported opinions in my post. Try son, TRY!

[QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"] What's this metacritic bullsh**? GS gave the right ORDER of score values to the Metal Gear franchises (MGS4 > 2 > 3 >1) but they completely underrated 1&3, digustingly so.. Which is why I use the secondary game source for video games; IGN. IGN has got the entire metal gear franchise correctly reviewed. No bullsh!t edge/eurogamer reviews bringing down scores.. no pisspoor GS reviews on 1 // 3 MGS4: 10 MGS1: 9.8 MGS2: 9.7 MGS3 9.6 Seriously I could hardly agree more. I think my opinion goes like this: MGS4: 11/10 MGS2: 10/10 MGS1: 9.9/10 MGS3: 9.8/10 I think a factual scoring line would go like this: MGS4: 10 MGS1 9.9 MGS2 9.8 MGS3: 9.7 So IGN is basically spot-on with all 4. Lol'd @ metacritic argumentMozelleple112

So either way I've proven you wrong, but lets quit dancing around scores and sales and jump into the meat of discussion. If MGS is so perfect I want you to refute my previous points. I dont know why you're so hesitant to really discuss the story and gameplay of a series you apparently know so well.

Absolutely! All you seem to know about is "10/10 GS blah, blah, blah."

You seem to know a bit about MGS4 and not sh*t regarding the rest of the series, which is probably why you didnt take issue with MGS4.

Gotta head out for a bit, so you can take this time to form a coherant argument.