[QUOTE="skrat_01"]MG4 was how you do a singleplayer fan service properly. Bungie take note.
FrozenLiquid
Unlike most others, Bungie does have the humility to acknowledge their faults.
What's disappointing with our generation of consumers, however, is that people want all flash, no lasting substance. It's why crap like 300 is considered a good movie. It's the reason why CoD 4's singleplayer apparently won out over Halo 3's last year. People were amazed at how awesome and epic everything in CoD 4's campaign was.
Now, however, it's pretty hard to go back after the second play through, or even the first. It's so damn scripted and tight it's not funny.
Apart from that one really stupid level, there's much more incentive to go back and play the all of Halo 3's missions due to its design. When Bungie said they wanted to nail down that "30 seconds of fun" philosophy, they meant it. They could've sold out game replayability by implementing some wowzer cool scripted sequence which may have gave them a greater shot at FPS GOTY last year, but then you have to ask yourself, what would you rather want? Some initially mesmerizing sequence which loses its appeal after multiple playthroughs, or some raw quality gameplay which is further enhanced by the extra features in Halo 3?
That's another thing. People b**** and moan at how Bungie didn't deliver what everyone was asking for. The hell were you asking for then?
1) A cooler co-op feature? Yeah you got it -- you got twice as many players for the campaign, and you got a solid feature set of gameplay changing skulls.
2) You cried that you had to play as Arbiter circa 2004. Bungie took note, and stripped his perspective down, making Master Chief the sole focus. So why did you all of a sudden turn around and tell them they butchered the Arbiter when he was perfectly alright in Halo 2? Make up your damn minds gentlemen: as much as you may think Bungie is God, they're really just human. They listen, they need time to adapt, then you snap your fingers and ask for something else on the fly.
Then they give you things such as Forge and Saved Films, extra things you didn't ask for, but made the Halo experience that much richer. What's the thanks they get? Instead of adding more merit to the Halo franchise, they get points docked off for being a "dumbed down version of Gary's Mod."
Sorry skrat, I'm talking about Bungie bashing at large, and when I talk to these guys on their forums, and sympathize with their passion and love for the game they make and continue to support (Bungie isn't dropping Halo 3 support anytime soon, as well as creating their new IPs); when they humble themselves by giving other devs credit for creating games and inspiring them; then when I hear this "Cough. Bungie, try harder you bunch of gits" it just really gets on my nerves.
Like a baby on a highchair. Gimme gimme gimme. Too hot or too cold? Spit it back in the face of your loving parents.
Our generation of spoilt brats sporting HDTVs are a crass of true gentlemen, indeed.
Well this is the problem there is a great divide between what a Halo fan is.You havfe people who wanted more multiplayer post Halo 2, and Bungie certainly delivered, and exelled in this department, and im sure in this regard it was a perfect fan service.
But for people who wanted more depth into the story, fleshing out of the characters more, and a singleplayer that pushed the barriers of the platform (as the first did originally).... not to mention stuff that Bungie was hyping for the singleplayer prior to the release, I cant say it delivered. I cant say at all.
Difference is with a game like MGS4 in a series that has been singleplayer since the beginning, you play the game and its plainly obvious that its made for metal gear fans, and Kojima knows exactly what metal gear fans want, which seemed to be evolved gameplay of the same formula that has been in the series since the beginning, and a miraculous roundup of the saga (which seemed like an impossibility). Ontop of that a memorable story to carry the final title, and a sendoff for Snake. For all its worth it seemed to do all of that perfectly, in the most metal gear fashion possible.
Apart from the lackluster online it seemed like the perfect fan service, as I said, its mainly because Kojima knew exactly what the fans wanted.
I know Bungies Halo 3 and online support is phenomenal, and im also very aware that the majority of Halo fans seem to be there for the online, the multiplayer THE major reason why the series is so popular.
As a singleplayer game I just cant see it as a great sequal. It just isnt. It was like a half baked pie, if it was left in the oven for longer, and given some more attention it could have been one of the most memorable experiences, and unlike the mulitplayer it was terribly undercooked, and lacked anything that made it a better pie than X FPS devs pie in 07.
Which is why I say, when I say it wasn't a good fan service, and Bungie should take note from Kojima of how to execute one, in all due respect I mean primarily the singleplayer. Because I honestly could not see how Halo 3s singleplayer was a proper sendoff or finale for a series, compared to a game like MGS4.
Which is why ultimatley Halo 3 is going to remembered as a multiplayer game, and since Halo 2 it has turned into a multiplayer series.
Sure its the mutiplayer that will retain the games popularity in the long run, but its a massive fall from grace considering how good the firsts singleplayer was, and how the bar was dropped so far, in contrast to other singleplayer focused FPSs.
I cant say with bungie I "want want want want want *insert this and that*". All I was expecting was a bombastic singleplayer finale as they themselves had hyped it to be. It wasent that. In respect the multiplayer shocked me how great it was, but the singleplayer, what was supposed to be this hyped core of the game just lacked. Its a matter of "less, less, less" and more focus on nailing the core, than the features themselves (which of course were great). But I guess, as I said Halo has become a multiplayer series, so the whole notion of the singleplayer being the core does falter.
Honestly I think the devs needed to take a step back from all the features and stuff, and just taken a good hard look at what should have been the core crux of the game.
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