MGS4 (PS3) Vs Crysis (PC) vs Drakes Fortune (PS3)

So what I get from this thread is that Crysis looks better than MGS CGI and Uncharted CGI.  The only ps3 gameplay pics in that comparison are 2-3 from uncharted.  Everything from MGS 4 is from the original trailer which took a bombshell of a downgrade since then.  Those shots came from the trailer where snakes mustache had "10,000 polygons". 

Crysis is officially > Sony PR trailers.

lordseer

Everytime someone says that, everyone else knows they're an idiot.

[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="toxicmog"]Uncharted, a week game set in the jungle like Mgs3. Could be an awesome sandbox jungle game.
But will most likely be a linear level design jungle game.TheManOfChoice

How you missed the very first word in his sentence which referenced to which game he was talking about, I do not know.

[QUOTE="ardylicious"]

CGI V RT.

I would rather be playing Crysis than prancing around with effeminate men trying to break into a complex owned by anothery effeminate man with another effeminate man as his sidekick. Or you might get caught by guards who look ominously gay Shock horror!!!

Or you could play Crysis with a super macho super hero kicking some real butt. Flinging people across a map with more polygons on one screen than MGS4 has in its entire game. The flick of a mouse instead of a hundred different combo moves. Blowing helecopters up with a single button instead of menu, direction, aim, then fire. DOH!

Sorry Crysis with a PC at 800-1000 and a ps3 at $500? Hey it costs to buy the game too you know.

Mind you i suppose its different from the same run and jump games you ps3 owners seem to get all the time. I pity you all.

Can't blame you for believing in CGI but i would of thought Motorstorm taught you ps3 owners a lesson???

tegovoltio

Good lord it is funny how quickly people forget.  That MGS 4 trailer was not gameplay.  There have only been a couple actual gameplay screens released and they were a major downgrade from that trailer.  Despite all the talk of manly men the one point he did make that was correct was that those MGS 4 pics were from the original "target render" trailer.

[QUOTE="Jagazaar"]

Dude, the graphics in Crysis 'pwn' the graphics in MGS4 and Drake's Fortune. This must evidently mean that it is a superior game in all regards, and thus must be at the very top of my purchase list, without question.

TheManOfChoice

I'm having trouble sensing if that's actually what you think or sarcasm...if its not sarcasm then :|

Heh, yep, 'tis sarcasm indeed. Maybe I'm just bitter/jaded, but I get bloody sick of all the emphasis put on these graphic comparisons, as if they point towards a superior game. Personally, I couldn't care less how these new games look, I want to see all this 'revolutionary' technology used to add/improve gameplay elements. 

I think I'll just stick with my PS2/SNES for a few years yet, until I see something that REALLY moves me from my apathy :|

[QUOTE="ardylicious"]

CGI V RT.

I would rather be playing Crysis than prancing around with effeminate men trying to break into a complex owned by anothery effeminate man with another effeminate man as his sidekick. Or you might get caught by guards who look ominously gay Shock horror!!!

Or you could play Crysis with a super macho super hero kicking some real butt. Flinging people across a map with more polygons on one screen than MGS4 has in its entire game. The flick of a mouse instead of a hundred different combo moves. Blowing helecopters up with a single button instead of menu, direction, aim, then fire. DOH!

Sorry Crysis with a PC at 800-1000 and a ps3 at $500? Hey it costs to buy the game too you know.

Mind you i suppose its different from the same run and jump games you ps3 owners seem to get all the time. I pity you all.

Can't blame you for believing in CGI but i would of thought Motorstorm taught you ps3 owners a lesson???

Timesplitter14

Metal gear is the only Japanese game without efeminate men (except Raiden, who's been modified).... and you're one of those who say PS3 is expensive but you're gonna get Crysis? Killing helicopters with menus? CGI? WTF?

@ ardylicious
"I would rather be playing Crysis than prancing around with effeminate men trying to break into a complex owned by another effeminate man with another effeminate man as his sidekick. Or you might get caught by guards who look ominously gay Shock horror!!!"

Oh boy, you sound pretty homophobic!

Heh, yep, 'tis sarcasm indeed. Maybe I'm just bitter/jaded, but I get bloody sick of all the emphasis put on these graphic comparisons, as if they point towards a superior game. Personally, I couldn't care less how these new games look, I want to see all this 'revolutionary' technology used to add/improve gameplay elements.

I think I'll just stick with my PS2/SNES for a few years yet, until I see something that REALLY moves me from my apathy :|

Jagazaar

Like I've said before: The sad truth is that the only things that ever get compared here in System Wars (when it comes to comparing games themselves) are graphics and review scores. Nobody discusses gameplay. Ever.

[QUOTE="lordseer"]

So what I get from this thread is that Crysis looks better than MGS CGI and Uncharted CGI.  The only ps3 gameplay pics in that comparison are 2-3 from uncharted.  Everything from MGS 4 is from the original trailer which took a bombshell of a downgrade since then.  Those shots came from the trailer where snakes mustache had "10,000 polygons". 

Crysis is officially > Sony PR trailers.

TheManOfChoice

Everytime someone says that, everyone else knows they're an idiot.

Here you go big guy.  Here are the actual MGS 4 gameplay screens, not screens from the MGS 4 target render trailer (aka the original CGI trailer from E3).  Did you forget about the 10k polygon mustache.  Keep throwing insults my way though because you obviously don't know about a game you are promoting. 

Gameplay

"Target Render"  Trailer

Insert Foot.

@ ardylicious
"Or you could play Crysis with a super macho super hero kicking some real butt"
"I still think the Japanese have a serious problem when it comes to doing male characters."
"if my dad looked like him i would be convinced he had been were the sun don't shine."

LOL You are homophobic!

[QUOTE="TheManOfChoice"][QUOTE="lordseer"]

So what I get from this thread is that Crysis looks better than MGS CGI and Uncharted CGI. The only ps3 gameplay pics in that comparison are 2-3 from uncharted. Everything from MGS 4 is from the original trailer which took a bombshell of a downgrade since then. Those shots came from the trailer where snakes mustache had "10,000 polygons".

Crysis is officially > Sony PR trailers.

lordseer

Everytime someone says that, everyone else knows they're an idiot.

Here you go big guy. Here are the actual MGS 4 gameplay screens, not screens from the MGS 4 target render trailer (aka the original CGI trailer from E3). Did you forget about the 10k polygon mustache. Keep throwing insults my way though because you obviously don't know about a game you are promoting.

Gameplay

"Target Render" Trailer

Insert Foot.

CGI V RT.

I would rather be playing Crysis than prancing around with effeminate men trying to break into a complex owned by anothery effeminate man with another effeminate man as his sidekick. Or you might get caught by guards who look ominously gay Shock horror!!!

Or you could play Crysis with a super macho super hero kicking some real butt. Flinging people across a map with more polygons on one screen than MGS4 has in its entire game. The flick of a mouse instead of a hundred different combo moves. Blowing helecopters up with a single button instead of menu, direction, aim, then fire. DOH!

Sorry Crysis with a PC at 800-1000 and a ps3 at $500? Hey it costs to buy the game too you know.

Mind you i suppose its different from the same run and jump games you ps3 owners seem to get all the time. I pity you all.

Can't blame you for believing in CGI but i would of thought Motorstorm taught you ps3 owners a lesson???

ardylicious

this kinda talk is just kinda cringeworthy.  If you look at 9/10 fps/action games on consoles and pc's the main characters are brimming with testorone. I actually liked playing as the androgynous raiden, he wasn't snake; but that was the point entirely. 

I wonder when some of you people will lose your erections for overly masculine men.  

Let's see... $3000 to play Crisis the way it looks in those screens, or, $500 to play MGS4... How does one decide? :roll:

MGS4 FTW!Timstuff

[QUOTE="TheManOfChoice"][QUOTE="lordseer"]

So what I get from this thread is that Crysis looks better than MGS CGI and Uncharted CGI.  The only ps3 gameplay pics in that comparison are 2-3 from uncharted.  Everything from MGS 4 is from the original trailer which took a bombshell of a downgrade since then.  Those shots came from the trailer where snakes mustache had "10,000 polygons". 

Crysis is officially > Sony PR trailers.

lordseer

Everytime someone says that, everyone else knows they're an idiot.

Here you go big guy.  Here are the actual MGS 4 gameplay screens, not screens from the MGS 4 target render trailer (aka the original CGI trailer from E3).  Did you forget about the 10k polygon mustache.  Keep throwing insults my way though because you obviously don't know about a game you are promoting. 

Gameplay

"Target Render"  Trailer

Insert Foot.

You said that the MGS footage we have seen has been CGI, inferring to all of it. Now, the E3 trailer not CGI, it was from the in-game engine of which they plan on getting to since it is their target render, of which they have until November to get to. Now according to the fact that those gameplay pics, were taken from a gameplay video(released at TGS) which was the most recent trailer (Kojima uses gameplay in a cinematic view to make the video more interesting), this means that you also called the most recent trailer from which you got those gameplay pics from CGI, then you went on to contradict yourself by revealing that you know that those are gameplay shots.

Maybe next time you'll think before you make false claims.

[QUOTE="lordseer"][QUOTE="TheManOfChoice"][QUOTE="lordseer"]

So what I get from this thread is that Crysis looks better than MGS CGI and Uncharted CGI. The only ps3 gameplay pics in that comparison are 2-3 from uncharted. Everything from MGS 4 is from the original trailer which took a bombshell of a downgrade since then. Those shots came from the trailer where snakes mustache had "10,000 polygons".

Crysis is officially > Sony PR trailers.

ardylicious

Everytime someone says that, everyone else knows they're an idiot.

Here you go big guy. Here are the actual MGS 4 gameplay screens, not screens from the MGS 4 target render trailer (aka the original CGI trailer from E3). Did you forget about the 10k polygon mustache. Keep throwing insults my way though because you obviously don't know about a game you are promoting.

Gameplay

"Target Render" Trailer

Insert Foot.

As I said earlier...Touched up cutscenes which are questionable. Vs Crysis^^

Best part is...because Kojima said it is realtime. Cows believe it LOL. 

[QUOTE="ardylicious"][QUOTE="lordseer"][QUOTE="TheManOfChoice"][QUOTE="lordseer"]

So what I get from this thread is that Crysis looks better than MGS CGI and Uncharted CGI. The only ps3 gameplay pics in that comparison are 2-3 from uncharted. Everything from MGS 4 is from the original trailer which took a bombshell of a downgrade since then. Those shots came from the trailer where snakes mustache had "10,000 polygons".

Crysis is officially > Sony PR trailers.

Acenso

Everytime someone says that, everyone else knows they're an idiot.

Here you go big guy. Here are the actual MGS 4 gameplay screens, not screens from the MGS 4 target render trailer (aka the original CGI trailer from E3). Did you forget about the 10k polygon mustache. Keep throwing insults my way though because you obviously don't know about a game you are promoting.

Gameplay

"Target Render" Trailer

Insert Foot.

As I said earlier...Touched up cutscenes which are questionable. Vs Crysis^^

Best part is...because Kojima said it is realtime. Cows believe it LOL. 

All the videos, even the very first trailer for MGS4 have been from the in-game engine, despite what you want to believe and never been touched up. Now, everyone, aside from your small group of haters will agree with me(and I mean everyone including Halo fans, Splinter Cell fans and the sheep).

Well maybe i'm wrong but aren't you comparing in game (crysis) with CGI (mgs4)

Even so crysis wins. That game looks amazing. Mgs4's pics do look nice there. Those are all CGI though arent' they.

[QUOTE="lordseer"][QUOTE="TheManOfChoice"][QUOTE="lordseer"]

So what I get from this thread is that Crysis looks better than MGS CGI and Uncharted CGI.  The only ps3 gameplay pics in that comparison are 2-3 from uncharted.  Everything from MGS 4 is from the original trailer which took a bombshell of a downgrade since then.  Those shots came from the trailer where snakes mustache had "10,000 polygons". 

Crysis is officially > Sony PR trailers.

TheManOfChoice

Everytime someone says that, everyone else knows they're an idiot.

Here you go big guy.  Here are the actual MGS 4 gameplay screens, not screens from the MGS 4 target render trailer (aka the original CGI trailer from E3).  Did you forget about the 10k polygon mustache.  Keep throwing insults my way though because you obviously don't know about a game you are promoting. 

Gameplay

"Target Render"  Trailer

Insert Foot.

You said that the MGS footage we have seen has been CGI, inferring to all of it. Now, the E3 trailer not CGI, it was from the in-game engine of which they plan on getting to since it is their target render, of which they have until November to get to. Now according to the fact that those gameplay pics, were taken from a gameplay video(released at TGS) which was the most recent trailer (Kojima uses gameplay in a cinematic view to make the video more interesting), this means that you also called the most recent trailer from which you got those gameplay pics from CGI, then you went on to contradict yourself by revealing that you know that those are gameplay shots.

Maybe next time you'll think before you make false claims.

More represenative of gameplay and generally accepted as being what MGS 4 will look like.  I don't know what machine they planned on running that "in game" engine on if it is true, which I doubt.  The Killzone 2 trailer was also from an "in game engine". 

Face it, those pics aren't even close to being represenative of what MGS 4 will look like.  You keep taking that spoon feeding from sony though. 

No, just normal men will do as in someone who isin't wearing tight jeans like resident evil. Dear oh dear. I am no trouser bandit and i believe each to their own but the japanese just can't draw macho men. Its alwasy nice to take control of a badass muddafukka and not some fairy.....ardylicious

lol 

i've always preferred the eastern depiction of masculine cool from akira to samonusuke, jubei cloud, squall, raiden, dmc 1 dante  

Not really a fan of the homo-erotic western heroes with their ripping biceps. in fact wait, most of marvel characters wear really tight costumes.

The dude in cyrsis wears a really tight costume, just like snake; they both seem quite masculine the end? 

[QUOTE="Acenso"][QUOTE="ardylicious"][QUOTE="lordseer"][QUOTE="TheManOfChoice"][QUOTE="lordseer"]

So what I get from this thread is that Crysis looks better than MGS CGI and Uncharted CGI. The only ps3 gameplay pics in that comparison are 2-3 from uncharted. Everything from MGS 4 is from the original trailer which took a bombshell of a downgrade since then. Those shots came from the trailer where snakes mustache had "10,000 polygons".

Crysis is officially > Sony PR trailers.

TheManOfChoice

Everytime someone says that, everyone else knows they're an idiot.

Here you go big guy. Here are the actual MGS 4 gameplay screens, not screens from the MGS 4 target render trailer (aka the original CGI trailer from E3). Did you forget about the 10k polygon mustache. Keep throwing insults my way though because you obviously don't know about a game you are promoting.

Gameplay

"Target Render" Trailer

Insert Foot.

As I said earlier...Touched up cutscenes which are questionable. Vs Crysis^^

Best part is...because Kojima said it is realtime. Cows believe it LOL. 

All the videos, even the very first trailer for MGS4 have been from the in-game engine, despite what you want to believe and never been touched up. Now, everyone, aside from your small group of haters will agree with me(and I mean everyone including Halo fans, Splinter Cell fans and the sheep).

You've got to be kidding me.  You obviously haven't been here long as the forums exploded after E3 in argument over the legitimacy of that trailer and people called Kojima's BS daily for months after E3. 

Most aren't as gullible as you despite what you'd like to claim here. 

mgs4 and crysis look crazy amazing....:shock:

errr lord seer, please use some common sense.

You don't need to know that much about the ps3's hardware to know that it's capable of those shots. Here's a clip from the game in engine which is actually better than those screenshots: http://youtube.com/watch?v=oSDudPTOznE

If people are seriously questioning which game looks graphically better then wow... of course crysis looks better, its CRYSIS. that game has been built for pc's, insane technology has gone into it's making the end.

But to me in terms of design i'm infinitely more interested in the cinematic metal gear. MGS4 is set in several different locations around the world. THe one we've seen so far is the middle east.  

[QUOTE="ardylicious"]No, just normal men will do as in someone who isin't wearing tight jeans like resident evil. Dear oh dear. I am no trouser bandit and i believe each to their own but the japanese just can't draw macho men. Its alwasy nice to take control of a badass muddafukka and not some fairy.....Filonus

lol

i've always preferred the eastern depiction of masculine cool from akira to samonusuke, jubei cloud, squall, raiden, dmc 1 dante

Not really a fan of the homo-erotic western heroes with their ripping biceps. in fact wait, most of marvel characters wear really tight costumes.

The dude in cyrsis wears a really tight costume, just like snake; they both seem quite masculine the end?

[QUOTE="TheManOfChoice"][QUOTE="Acenso"][QUOTE="ardylicious"][QUOTE="lordseer"][QUOTE="TheManOfChoice"][QUOTE="lordseer"]

So what I get from this thread is that Crysis looks better than MGS CGI and Uncharted CGI. The only ps3 gameplay pics in that comparison are 2-3 from uncharted. Everything from MGS 4 is from the original trailer which took a bombshell of a downgrade since then. Those shots came from the trailer where snakes mustache had "10,000 polygons".

Crysis is officially > Sony PR trailers.

lordseer

Everytime someone says that, everyone else knows they're an idiot.

Here you go big guy. Here are the actual MGS 4 gameplay screens, not screens from the MGS 4 target render trailer (aka the original CGI trailer from E3). Did you forget about the 10k polygon mustache. Keep throwing insults my way though because you obviously don't know about a game you are promoting.

Gameplay

"Target Render" Trailer

Insert Foot.

As I said earlier...Touched up cutscenes which are questionable. Vs Crysis^^

Best part is...because Kojima said it is realtime. Cows believe it LOL. 

All the videos, even the very first trailer for MGS4 have been from the in-game engine, despite what you want to believe and never been touched up. Now, everyone, aside from your small group of haters will agree with me(and I mean everyone including Halo fans, Splinter Cell fans and the sheep).

You've got to be kidding me.  You obviously haven't been here long as the forums exploded after E3 in argument over the legitimacy of that trailer and people called Kojima's BS daily for months after E3. 

Most aren't as gullible as you despite what you'd like to claim here. 

I've been here before MGS3, and I was here for that "explosion" as you call it. Which is exactly why I'm so dumbfounded as how you can make the statement that any of those MGS videos are CGI. No one called Kojima's BS, it was actually the other way around from your biased point of view. I can recall "Haters owned" threads a week after that argument started. Lemmings believed it was CGI because of the Killzone trailer which was a sped up, in-engine, fraud. And a week after lemmings made the CGI claim, people were shutting them down left and right. Kojima even had a damn press conference about if it was CGI wherein he paused the trailer, and started manipulating the sunlight, the shadows and the colors, proving that it was the in-game engine and not a CGI video running off of a high powered computer. You have your information backwards and I suggest you check back and do some research. That video was all over gamespot when that CGI argument broke, and you will soon find you are just biased and misinformed.

Crysis will blow both games away. Crysis will blow most games away for awhile. And since MGS is known as being a ton of cut scenes and some game play thrown in here and there so all that is prolly just cut scenes Also the in game fighting scenes have already been shown and look a ton better then MGS. rybe1025

comparing cut-scene ridden collection of MGS4 (bar 2) and in-game examples of crysis........too me that just doesn't seem fair.....but even still crysis wins, the of detail and quality is still better than mgs4 even with it being cut-scenes.

tbh no competition.

How many people on here can even run Crysis at full spec? I expect honesty, not all yes answers just to pull for Crysis. And both games are'nt even out yet so do the comparison when the finished product ships. Even so Crysis has got detail going for it. MGS4 looks great, even at this stage, reguardless.LiquidMetal14

Well maybe i'm wrong but aren't you comparing in game (crysis) with CGI (mgs4)

Even so crysis wins. That game looks amazing. Mgs4's pics do look nice there. Those are all CGI though arent' they.

streetridaz

*sigh*

I had no idea that there were so many people in the world who cant read. 

Kojima does not use CGI!, put that in your Joint and smoke it:|

[QUOTE="ardylicious"][QUOTE="lordseer"][QUOTE="TheManOfChoice"][QUOTE="lordseer"]

So what I get from this thread is that Crysis looks better than MGS CGI and Uncharted CGI. The only ps3 gameplay pics in that comparison are 2-3 from uncharted. Everything from MGS 4 is from the original trailer which took a bombshell of a downgrade since then. Those shots came from the trailer where snakes mustache had "10,000 polygons".

Crysis is officially > Sony PR trailers.

Acenso

Everytime someone says that, everyone else knows they're an idiot.

Here you go big guy. Here are the actual MGS 4 gameplay screens, not screens from the MGS 4 target render trailer (aka the original CGI trailer from E3). Did you forget about the 10k polygon mustache. Keep throwing insults my way though because you obviously don't know about a game you are promoting.

Gameplay

"Target Render" Trailer

Insert Foot.

As I said earlier...Touched up cutscenes which are questionable. Vs Crysis^^

Best part is...because Kojima said it is realtime. Cows believe it LOL. 

The character animations in the latest Crysis video are amazing.

LOL all you broke Console gamers crying about how expensive a PC is going to be - not much more than a PS3 !!!I love seeing all the MGS4 fans trying there hardest to point out the good things about their screens. LOL what a joke.Crysis is so far ahead of those games, the comparison gave me a good laugh.  Like the guy said earlier comparing crysis to MSG4 is like comparing a Nuclear bomb to a grenade.

[QUOTE="LiquidMetal14"]How many people on here can even run Crysis at full spec? I expect honesty, not all yes answers just to pull for Crysis. And both games are'nt even out yet so do the comparison when the finished product ships. Even so Crysis has got detail going for it. MGS4 looks great, even at this stage, reguardless.muscleserge

Nah, that was a bad pic to show off FarCry. The one above is better.

And by the way, that is a horrible comparison of MGS4 and Crysis. These Crysis pics are all from real-time Pre-alpha  builds. They could of picked much better screens. The fact that they used MGS4 screen caps from E3 is pretty sad. Here's a great real-time Crysis screen:

Or this