MGS4 sells 4.33 million worldwide!

and yet only 1 million hva eplyed it online?

im sorry but thats pretty week

scottiescott238

LOL who cares bout MGO ... i beat the game 5 times already & i havent even registered to MGO and never will, SP is what MGS is about

thats great !!!.

because of the stupid opinions of people saying 20 hours cutscenes 7 hours gameplay thing people doubt on buying the game

Dont listen to them people buy the game and enjoy the pure perfection!!!, and if you dont like it change it for another game

What about MGO participation? You need MGS4 and a PS3 to do MGO, so that could provide a conservative sold-to-consumer estimate.HuusAsking

online attach is actually a lot lower than you'd think, they say only 6 of 10 people actually take their consoles online these days - which i find really weird. not sure if there are updated figures on that, but you could take the number of people on MGO and extrapolate based on PS3 online attach figures to get a pretty good idea of how many were sold.

[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"]

Not bad... but not great, GeoW outsold it in the same time period i think.

kinda sad this game isn't doing better.

SnakePS360Gamer

What a rediculous thing to say. They will always want to sell as many units as possible. To suggest they aren't trying to is ludicrous.

konami announced yesterday that they just had their millionth mgo subscriber. so there are 1 million confirmed buyers

ogvampire

ok then, time for some fun and fuzzy math.

facts:

1,000,000 MGO subscribers

58% (roughly 6 of 10) take their consoles online (figure courtesy of NPD Group, April '08 report)

1,000,000 + 42% (420,000 people that don't play online) = 1,420,000 copies sold.

now here is the fuzzy - this doesn't account for people that have bough the game, go online with their PS3, but haven't played MGO yet, but no matter how you spin the numbers you won't hit the 4M mark - feel free to try. you'd have to claim that the vast majority (and i mean insanely vast) that bought it and go online with their PS3 didn't even register for MGO.

I hope this makes is painfully clear to people how sales arguments are meaningless this gen. Konami's report was based on all sales including copies sold to Sony for bundles which could a) still be in storage, or b) are still on store shelves. There is no getting around this math - even if you put the margin for error at 100%.

Buth teh cows said that game sells mean noting druggyjoe3000

I believe it was posted to prove the lemmings who said it wouldn't sell wrong. This is SW after all. You will always see graphics, sales, and review games.

1. 1Grand Theft Auto IV98
2. LittleBigPlanet (Exclusive)95
3. BioShock95
4. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare94
5. Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (Exclusive)94
6. Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, The93
7. Rock Band 292
8. Rock Band92
9. Fallout 392
10. NHL 0989
11. Resistance 2 (Exclusive)89
12. Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction (Exclusive)89
13. Orange Box, The89
14. Uncharted: Drake's Fortune (Exclusive)88
15. Dead Space

Top 15 for ps3 has 5 seperate exclusives

1. Grand Theft Auto IV98
2. BioShock96
3. Orange Box, The96
4. Gears of War (Exclusive)* 360/pc94
5. Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, The94
6. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare94
7. Halo 3 (Exclusive)94
8. Gears of War 2 (Exclusive)* 360/pc93
9. Fallout 393
10. Braid93
11. Rock Band 292
12. Guitar Hero II92
13. Rock Band92
14. Mass Effect (Exclusive)* 360/pc91
15. Tom Clancy's Ghost (Exclusive)

Top 15 for the 360, has 5 exclusives 3 of which is shared with the pc, and 2 of which are sequels from this gen.

So please keep the fanboyism out and lay it to rest about the ps3 not having any games now. I think that argument is officially dead. And if still being brought up is only due to lemmings running out of reasons to bash the ps3 and just can't handle the fact that the ps3 has plenty of games now. Plenty of actuall exclusives and more on the way, all the while playing some great multiplates aswell :)

Thats good for Konami, I know they were worried for a while that the PS3 hardware was going to be a sales flop for the game. It was an amazing experience too. I just don't see Konami wanting to take that kind of risk again though and maybe see them going multiplatform from here on out.Darthmatt

Konami as a whole will defintely develop multiplat games.

Kojima Productions will always focus on one console in order to get the most out of it. Their next game would either be 360 or PS3 exclusive.

I hope this makes is painfully clear to people how sales arguments are meaningless this gen. Konami's report was based on all sales including copies sold to Sony for bundles which could a) still be in storage, or b) are still on store shelves. There is no getting around this math - even if you put the margin for error at 100%.

3picuri3

[QUOTE="3picuri3"]

I hope this makes is painfully clear to people how sales arguments are meaningless this gen. Konami's report was based on all sales including copies sold to Sony for bundles which could a) still be in storage, or b) are still on store shelves. There is no getting around this math - even if you put the margin for error at 100%.

HuusAsking

yeah, i wouldn't be shocked if the sales are even up around 3 million or more. if you're willing to say that around 1 of 3 people that bought it that do use PSN (have their PS3 online) haven't even registered - which i don't think is crazy.. but in reality i'd say the sales are close to breaking 3 million, not over. but who the hell knows, heh :).

and yet only 1 million hva eplyed it online?

im sorry but thats pretty week

scottiescott238

Who buys a MGS game to play multiplayer?

Top 15 for the 360, has 5 exclusives 3 of which is shared with the pc, and 2 of which are sequels from this gen.

So please keep the fanboyism out and lay it to rest about the ps3 not having any games now. I think that argument is officially dead. And if still being brought up is only due to lemmings running out of reasons to bash the ps3 and just can't handle the fact that the ps3 has plenty of games now. Plenty of actuall exclusives and more on the way, all the while playing some great multiplates aswell :)

GreyFoXX4

what you absolutely fail to show - and for obvious reasons - is the breadth and depth of the 360 library compared to the PS3, or say - compare the PS3 lineup now to the PS2 lineup at the same point in it's product cycle. funny how two icebergs look the same when floating in the water - but can obviously have incredibly varied shapes and sizes when you go past the water line.

fact of the matter is the 360 has the more diverse library when considering not just AAAE games, and that's what really defines a console over time.

so no, you haven't quashed the argument. it isn't close to being officially dead. if you think it is then i welcome you to start a thread right now in SW instead of arguing this in the back alleys - i'll be there with my popcorn :)

there is still a very valid concern among PS3 owners that the library is nothing compared to the PS1/PS2, and is still a shadow of the 360s total library. Even if you just add in AA games you'll see the 360 has an insane lead on metaranking sites.

Ok Shovelware for the win then right? I get how its played now. Geez I do hope that Sony puts out alot of waisted plastic disks soon to have a more diverse library lol.

4.3M units sold...but only 1M signed up for MGO...

What happend there?

Ok Shovelware for the win then right? I get how its played now. Geez I do hope that Sony puts out alot of waisted plastic disks soon to have a more diverse library lol.

GreyFoXX4

that's seriously your retort? that's your argument? i can see why you don't make an official thread for your argument :P and i find it hilarious that anything less than AAA to you is shovelware.

it's been proven that the PS1/PS2 did so well due to the library, it's diversity, and wide selection of budget titles. and despite that you barely have an argument to establish a case for PS3 having a good variety of AAA games given how long it's been out.

c'mon, make a thread on this. i'd love to participate, i'll give you my best - i have tons of material :)

Ok Shovelware for the win then right? I get how its played now. Geez I do hope that Sony puts out alot of waisted plastic disks soon to have a more diverse library lol.

GreyFoXX4

Take everything into consideration and you have to admit the landscape has changed, much as the US elections have changed. It's no longer just Sony's world. It pains the cows to admit it, but Microsoft has managed to make genuine penetrating inroads into the console market and has made this a serious battle for second...and it's Microsoft currently in that spot and with nothing that's guaranteed to threaten it on the horizon. Indeed, time and money are on Microsoft's side now. The longer Sony waits, the more once-loyal-now-exasparated gamers plunk down for a cheaper but more diverse alternative, knowing full well that the cycle is due to repeat in two more years. IOW, might as well get while the gettin's good.

4.3M units sold...but only 1M signed up for MGO...

What happend there?

masiisam

To put it simply:MGO is awful.

IMO ofcourse.

[QUOTE="masiisam"]

4.3M units sold...but only 1M signed up for MGO...

What happend there?

stvee101

To put it simply:MGO is awful.

IMO ofcourse.

but that's just people signing up - you have to sign up to find out it's horrible :) we're not talking about how many play now, that's total unique registrations.

[QUOTE="masiisam"]

4.3M units sold...but only 1M signed up for MGO...

What happend there?

stvee101

To put it simply:MGO is awful.

IMO ofcourse.

I agree with you......I did not like it myself...BUT you would have to sign up to find that out..

PSN is free...MGO came with MGS4.....It not like live where there is an additional cost to play the game on-line..

I wounder why the MGO attach rate is so poor..

[QUOTE="stvee101"][QUOTE="masiisam"]

4.3M units sold...but only 1M signed up for MGO...

What happend there?

3picuri3

To put it simply:MGO is awful.

IMO ofcourse.

but that's just people signing up - you have to sign up to find out it's horrible :) we're not talking about how many play now, that's total unique registrations.

The registration system was horrible though, that would have turned many people off.

[QUOTE="bleehum"]

[QUOTE="Salt_The_Fries"]Not only not the best game ever (when you look at average score), but also not best-selling game. Either way - fail.Salt_The_Fries

1st, it got a 10, second, Metal Gear games never sell the best.

I thought brand name power will be stronger here...

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

konami announced yesterday that they just had their millionth mgo subscriber. so there are 1 million confirmed buyers

3picuri3

ok then, time for some fun and fuzzy math.

facts:

1,000,000 MGO subscribers

58% (roughly 6 of 10) take their consoles online (figure courtesy of NPD Group, April '08 report)

1,000,000 + 42% (420,000 people that don't play online) = 1,420,000 copies sold.

now here is the fuzzy - this doesn't account for people that have bough the game, go online with their PS3, but haven't played MGO yet, but no matter how you spin the numbers you won't hit the 4M mark - feel free to try. you'd have to claim that the vast majority (and i mean insanely vast) that bought it and go online with their PS3 didn't even register for MGO.

I hope this makes is painfully clear to people how sales arguments are meaningless this gen. Konami's report was based on all sales including copies sold to Sony for bundles which could a) still be in storage, or b) are still on store shelves. There is no getting around this math - even if you put the margin for error at 100%.

actually i wasnt trying to prove anything. i just put that info up there cause it was a reply to someone who wanted to track online players for MGO

[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="stvee101"][QUOTE="masiisam"]

4.3M units sold...but only 1M signed up for MGO...

What happend there?

sam280992

To put it simply:MGO is awful.

IMO ofcourse.

but that's just people signing up - you have to sign up to find out it's horrible :) we're not talking about how many play now, that's total unique registrations.

The registration system was horrible though, that would have turned many people off.

that's totally true. but on the flip side there are likely fake account in that 1,000,000 too - i know a few people that made duplicates to get extra beta keys, heh.

but yeah, terrible registration system, mediocre gaming experience. not a shocker.

[QUOTE="stvee101"][QUOTE="masiisam"]

4.3M units sold...but only 1M signed up for MGO...

What happend there?

3picuri3

To put it simply:MGO is awful.

IMO ofcourse.

but that's just people signing up - you have to sign up to find out it's horrible :) we're not talking about how many play now, that's total unique registrations.

Well I think about 99.9999% of people bought MGS4 for the single player.Some probably heard from friends or reviewers about the sub-standard on-line,and just didn't bother.Also as strange as it may seem, some people just don't play on-line,ever.Plus the fact that some people don't even have internet access.(Just my theory anyway :P)

actually i wasnt trying to prove anything. i just put that info up there cause it was a reply to someone who wanted to track online players for MGO

ogvampire

oh it wasn't meant to attack your post, i was just citing you for the 1,000,000 figure :) sorry about that.

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

actually i wasnt trying to prove anything. i just put that info up there cause it was a reply to someone who wanted to track online players for MGO

3picuri3

oh it wasn't meant to attack your post, i was just citing you for the 1,000,000 figure :) sorry about that.

heh. no worries. i know that you were trying to figure out where konami got their numbers.

i honestly dont know how they got that high so fast. last i heard MGS4 sold about 3.3 mil, now it shot up to 4.3 so fast. not that i dont believe konami, but maybe they reported shipped numbers, not sold numbers

Ok Shovelware for the win then right? I get how its played now. Geez I do hope that Sony puts out alot of waisted plastic disks soon to have a more diverse library lol.

GreyFoXX4

So like 37 mini games based on carnivals or some mediocre kids cartoon for every quality first party game? I mean they have Nintendo to look to for guidance.

Not bad... but not great, GeoW outsold it in the same time period i think.

kinda sad this game isn't doing better.

nintendo-4life

Halo 3 has sold over 9 million and GeoW2 will probably sell about the same amount. That's a great achievement for MGS4, since I don't think any of their previous titles have sold that many copies. I think the main reason it sold so well was because there weren't any incredible games like that on the PS3 yet. A lot of PS3 gamers really didn't have anything extrodinary to play up until MGS4. So gamers flocked to it. Kudos to Konami, now hurry up and make a new MGS game for the XBox 360 and Wii.

Not bad... but not great, GeoW outsold it in the same time period i think.

kinda sad this game isn't doing better.

nintendo-4life

[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"]

Not bad... but not great, GeoW outsold it in the same time period i think.

kinda sad this game isn't doing better.

blackace

Halo 3 has sold over 9 million and GeoW2 will probably sell about the same amount. That's a great achievement for MGS4, since I don't think any of their previous titles have sold that many copies. I think the main reason it sold so well was because there weren't any incredible games like that on the PS3 yet. A lot of PS3 gamers really didn't have anything extrodinary to play up until MGS4. So gamers flocked to it. Kudos to Konami, now hurry up and make a new MGS game for the XBox 360 and Wii.

GeOW2 will probably sell around 5-6 million, a bit more than the first title.

MGS sold 7 million
MGS2 sold 7 million
MGS3 sold 4 million

[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"]

Not bad... but not great, GeoW outsold it in the same time period i think.

kinda sad this game isn't doing better.

EVOLV3

....some time in the future

Metal Gear solid 4 sales after 2 years = 4.77 Million

[QUOTE="Salt_The_Fries"]Not only not the best game ever (when you look at average score)metalgear-solid

which are not to be trusted specially n4g which is what i think you mean by ng4....yeah n4g.com not a very good site to quote for any thing surfice to say.
As well gamrankings shows its 92.5% average ranking which is much more believable of that game.

[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="nintendo-4life"]

Not bad... but not great, GeoW outsold it in the same time period i think.

kinda sad this game isn't doing better.

kkee

Halo 3 has sold over 9 million and GeoW2 will probably sell about the same amount. That's a great achievement for MGS4, since I don't think any of their previous titles have sold that many copies. I think the main reason it sold so well was because there weren't any incredible games like that on the PS3 yet. A lot of PS3 gamers really didn't have anything extrodinary to play up until MGS4. So gamers flocked to it. Kudos to Konami, now hurry up and make a new MGS game for the XBox 360 and Wii.

GeOW2 will probably sell around 5-6 million, a bit more than the first title.

MGS sold 7 million
MGS2 sold 7 million
MGS3 sold 4 million

Its a crime that MGS3, the best in the series, has the least sales. I mean it released late in the PS2's life with such a large fanbase. What happened guyz!?

Gears of War Sales After 2 years = 5 million
Metal Gear Solid 4 sales after 5 months = 4.33 Million
EVOLV3

Fallout 3 sales after 1 week = almost 4 million!!!

Its the best PS3 game of the year so I am glad to see it sell so well

[QUOTE="EVOLV3"]
Gears of War Sales After 2 years = 5 million
Metal Gear Solid 4 sales after 5 months = 4.33 Million
gensigns

Fallout 3 sales after 1 week = almost 4 million!!!

fallout 3 is also a multiplatform game... im sure that helped

[QUOTE="kkee"][QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="nintendo-4life"]

Not bad... but not great, GeoW outsold it in the same time period i think.

kinda sad this game isn't doing better.

-DrRobotnik-

Halo 3 has sold over 9 million and GeoW2 will probably sell about the same amount. That's a great achievement for MGS4, since I don't think any of their previous titles have sold that many copies. I think the main reason it sold so well was because there weren't any incredible games like that on the PS3 yet. A lot of PS3 gamers really didn't have anything extrodinary to play up until MGS4. So gamers flocked to it. Kudos to Konami, now hurry up and make a new MGS game for the XBox 360 and Wii.

GeOW2 will probably sell around 5-6 million, a bit more than the first title.

MGS sold 7 million
MGS2 sold 7 million
MGS3 sold 4 million

Its a crime that MGS3, the best in the series, has the least sales. I mean it released late in the PS2's life with such a large fanbase. What happened guyz!?

I think it had to do with MGS2, Raiden being the main playable character that might had put a lot of people off. And I agree MGS3 was the best story wise.

[QUOTE="gensigns"]

[QUOTE="EVOLV3"]
Gears of War Sales After 2 years = 5 million
Metal Gear Solid 4 sales after 5 months = 4.33 Million
ogvampire

Fallout 3 sales after 1 week = almost 4 million!!!

fallout 3 is also a multiplatform game... im sure that helped

not as much as youd think:

PS3 28%

360 55%

PC 17%

360 sold as much as PS3/PC combined! figures courtesy of PC World.

[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="gensigns"]

[QUOTE="EVOLV3"]
Gears of War Sales After 2 years = 5 million
Metal Gear Solid 4 sales after 5 months = 4.33 Million
3picuri3

Fallout 3 sales after 1 week = almost 4 million!!!

fallout 3 is also a multiplatform game... im sure that helped

not as much as youd think:

PS3 28%

360 55%

PC 17%

360 sold as much as PS3/PC combined! figures courtesy of PC World.

Too bad the numbers were shipped.

4.3M units sold...but only 1M signed up for MGO...

What happend there?

masiisam

Mgs really wasn't meat to be an online experience imo... its perfect as it is offline... tried the online and didn't like it, felt really slow after playing COD4. Not a lot of ppl play MGO because its not that great quite frankly.

[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="stvee101"][QUOTE="masiisam"]

4.3M units sold...but only 1M signed up for MGO...

What happend there?

sam280992

To put it simply:MGO is awful.

IMO ofcourse.

but that's just people signing up - you have to sign up to find out it's horrible :) we're not talking about how many play now, that's total unique registrations.

the registration system was horrible though, that would have turned many people off.

The process took me several tries, the 1st couple of attempts I said screw it and went back to playing MGS4. When I finally figured out the registration process and I played on several on-line matches, I thought to myself I wasted my time for this?