MGS4's Opening Movie has been in Development for OVER ONE YEAR....:o !!!

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#1 kirk4ever
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this is EPIC!! :o

in his recent podcast rayon payton talks with one of the devs on mgs4 and he says that the Opening movie for MGS4 took over one year..thats the lenght of the development of some games!!!!

and apparently HIDEO KOJIMA is very--VERY impressed with the opening

what you think>? will it live up to the cost-time and hype?

BTW all the cinemaics in MGS seris including 4 ARE REAL TIME

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#2 JayPee89
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OMFG! You cows have been reduced to hyping CG movies?
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#3 locopatho
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I'd rather they create new levels instead of a CGI intro everyone will skip after the first time.
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#4 Logan832
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Of course people will say how they didn't like the MGS CG movies, due to the fact they were to clueless as to understanding the story. But thats OK. The crazy plot turning story the MGS series has, is what makes that series so different. Unlike a traditional story line that makes you aware of everything.
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#5 AgentA-Mi6
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The Greatest game of all time will most likely have the most impressive opening movie I guess
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#6 Adrian_Cloud
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OMFG! You cows have been reduced to hyping CG movies?JayPee89

This is how you fail... its not complete CG.
You fail even more because all of MGS have great opening cut-scenes with plenty of easter eggs.

Anyhow heres the summary of whats none so far...

Its around 12 minutes, has some live action which was filmed in L.A and some CG. The opening trailer will have a mixture of the different PMCs, and will have some sort of player interactivety.
This game will be epic, the opening scene will be top ten of all time.

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#7 TheEndBoss
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Just me, but I'd rather they spent their time on the game FIRST and then got the cutscenes finished after it was all polished and amazing. In other words, I think they need to get their priorities straight.
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#8 kenz
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Umm sounds like a waste - work on the game not the into nubs.

Good job on wasting lots of cash!

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#9 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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1 year on a CGI movie :?

that an amazing waste of time IMO.

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#10 Always-Honest
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well, could be great.. but i want to pplay a game..
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#11 whodeysay85
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the game has been in development forever as well. Of course they put the development of the game first. However, as a big fan of the series this game is going to be revealing a lot of the mysteries that have surronded the plotline throughout. I cannot wait to see the opening cutscenes and am very excited. Don't be hating on a great game with real time cutscenes that are just as awesome.
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#12 ironcreed
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Just me, but I'd rather they spent their time on the game FIRST and then got the cutscenes finished after it was all polished and amazing. In other words, I think they need to get their priorities straight.TheEndBoss

Yes, because Hideo Kojima has no clue what he is doing, right?....oh wait.:o

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#13 ImaPirate0202
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Stop making threads, the anticipation is killing me.
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#14 NWA_31
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Actually, they said they started working on it since October 2007, if I remember correctly, but they came up with the concept about a year ago.
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That is pretty awesome to be honset. This game is going to have the best story ever.
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[QUOTE="TheEndBoss"]Just me, but I'd rather they spent their time on the game FIRST and then got the cutscenes finished after it was all polished and amazing. In other words, I think they need to get their priorities straight.ironcreed

Yes, because Hideo Kojima has no clue what he is doing, right?....oh wait.:o

Kojima has nothing to do with it. I don't give a crap who the developer is, the game should always come first, if it didn't already.

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1 year on a CGI movie :?

that an amazing waste of time IMO.

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Its not a platformer or a party game is that what bothers you?
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Just me, but I'd rather they spent their time on the game FIRST and then got the cutscenes finished after it was all polished and amazing. In other words, I think they need to get their priorities straight.TheEndBoss

1. The game is already finished. The opening movie is the last piece of data they need.

2. Logan made it, not Kojima Productions.

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Just me, but I'd rather they spent their time on the game FIRST and then got the cutscenes finished after it was all polished and amazing. In other words, I think they need to get their priorities straight.TheEndBoss

cuz we all know this is going to make the game horrible....like all MGS games are

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bring on the scores of people who don't know the difference between CGI and MGS cutscenes.
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#21 X_CAPCOM_X
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OMFG! You cows have been reduced to hyping CG movies?JayPee89
Oh my.. you actually think that MGS uses CGI? Wow..
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[QUOTE="TheEndBoss"]Just me, but I'd rather they spent their time on the game FIRST and then got the cutscenes finished after it was all polished and amazing. In other words, I think they need to get their priorities straight.hyperboy152000

cuz we all know this is going to make the game horrible....like all MGS games are

Please point out where in my post I said anything even close to that.

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#23 X_CAPCOM_X
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1 year on a CGI movie :?

that an amazing waste of time IMO.

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

MGS has never, ever, used CGI cutscenes. Why would you say something like this if you are completely ignorant about MGS?

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#24 hyperboy152000
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[QUOTE="hyperboy152000"]

[QUOTE="TheEndBoss"]Just me, but I'd rather they spent their time on the game FIRST and then got the cutscenes finished after it was all polished and amazing. In other words, I think they need to get their priorities straight.TheEndBoss

cuz we all know this is going to make the game horrible....like all MGS games are

Please point out where in my post I said anything even close to that.

well im just saying when has making an opening movie after the game itself is already done going to make the gameplay worse? and this is the trend of all MGS games so it was mearly my POV thinking it was implied

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[QUOTE="ironcreed"]

[QUOTE="TheEndBoss"]Just me, but I'd rather they spent their time on the game FIRST and then got the cutscenes finished after it was all polished and amazing. In other words, I think they need to get their priorities straight.TheEndBoss

Yes, because Hideo Kojima has no clue what he is doing, right?....oh wait.:o

Kojima has nothing to do with it. I don't give a crap who the developer is, the game should always come first, if it didn't already.

LOL, well considering that this is part of the game, I think it will contribute towards making it a better production as a whole. But, just because they put so much time into the opening movie, you just automatically conclude that the game itself is getting less attention? Again, I think they know what they are doing. Besides, just who are you to tell Kojima Productions that "they need to get their priorities straight?"

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lol, for it to take that long is not a good sign
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#27 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

1 year on a CGI movie :?

that an amazing waste of time IMO.

AgentA-Mi6

Its not a platformer or a party game is that what bothers you?

No what bothers me is there so focused on making an "epic movie" that I think there negelcting the ACTUAL game and gameplay elements. No other studio spends so much time on CGI movie's like kojima. Make no sense to me why they need a year to develope a opening sequence to a GAME.

And FYI I hate party games :wink: Platformers are awome tho.

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[QUOTE="TheEndBoss"][QUOTE="ironcreed"]

[QUOTE="TheEndBoss"]Just me, but I'd rather they spent their time on the game FIRST and then got the cutscenes finished after it was all polished and amazing. In other words, I think they need to get their priorities straight.ironcreed

Yes, because Hideo Kojima has no clue what he is doing, right?....oh wait.:o

Kojima has nothing to do with it. I don't give a crap who the developer is, the game should always come first, if it didn't already.

LOL, well considering that this is part of the game, I think it will contribute towards making it a better production as a whole. But, just because they put so much time into the opening movie, you just automatically conclude that the game itself is getting less attention? Again, I think they know what they are doing. Besides, just who are you to tell Kojima Productions that "they need to get their priorities straight?"

seriously. KP knows how to make fun games. Subsistance, AC!D 2, Lunar Knights, and Portable Ops.

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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

1 year on a CGI movie :?

that an amazing waste of time IMO.

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

Its not a platformer or a party game is that what bothers you?

No what bothers me is there so focused on making an "epic movie" that I think there negelcting the ACTUAL game and gameplay elements. No other studio spends so much time on CGI movie's like kojima. Make no sense to me why they need a year to develope a opening sequence to a GAME.

And FYI I hate party games :wink: Platformers are awome tho.

Because he wants the open scene to be ****ing awesome.

Makes sense to me.

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#31 hyperboy152000
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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

1 year on a CGI movie :?

that an amazing waste of time IMO.

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

Its not a platformer or a party game is that what bothers you?

No what bothers me is there so focused on making an "epic movie" that I think there negelcting the ACTUAL game and gameplay elements. No other studio spends so much time on CGI movie's like kojima. Make no sense to me why they need a year to develope a opening sequence to a GAME.

And FYI I hate party games :wink: Platformers are awome tho.

i guess you didnt hear that they are done with the actually gameplay part of the game

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#32 DarkCloud79
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The epicness of this game will be epic.
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#33 kirk4ever
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The epicness of this game will be epic.DarkCloud79

Very well said my fine sir :)
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#34 NWA_31
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No what bothers me is there so focused on making an "epic movie" that I think there negelcting the ACTUAL game and gameplay elements. No other studio spends so much time on CGI movie's like kojima. Make no sense to me why they need a year to develope a opening sequence to a GAME.Gh0st_Of_0nyx

There is absolutely no CG movies in MGS. And Kojima Productions have been working on the game non-stop. It was Logan that made the opening movie.

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#35 REforever101
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one of the main reasons ive loved mgs since the beginning was the awesome cutscenes

but just the opening taking 1 year to make probably has more to do with it being obscenely long then anything else

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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

1 year on a CGI movie :?

that an amazing waste of time IMO.

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

Its not a platformer or a party game is that what bothers you?

No what bothers me is there so focused on making an "epic movie" that I think there negelcting the ACTUAL game and gameplay elements. No other studio spends so much time on CGI movie's like kojima. Make no sense to me why they need a year to develope a opening sequence to a GAME.

And FYI I hate party games :wink: Platformers are awome tho.

it's not CGI. call it a real-time polygon demo, which is what it really is. MGS cutscenes are interactive, something that CGI is not.

you have no basis to assume they don't have the time or resources to focus on both gameplay and cinematics. what you think is not based on anything solid.

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LOL, well considering that this is part of the game, I think it will contribute towards making it a better production as a whole. But, just because they put so much time into the opening movie, you just automatically conclude that the game itself is getting less attention? Again, I think they know what they are doing. Besides, just who are you to tell Kojima Productions that "they need to get their priorities straight?"

ironcreed

I'm referring to the "game" as in the "gameplay". And like it or not, it's still a possibility that they're giving more attention to the cutscenes and story than the gameplay. I'm hoping they're not doing that, but if they are, they need to get their priorities straight. The game (or gameplay if you're going to get technical with me) needs to come first.

That last comment is just priceless. This entire board is meant for commentary on the industry. You can apply that to just about every thread or topic ever made on this board. Who are we to criticize Microsoft for having defective consoles? Who are we to criticize the third party on the Wii? Who are we to criticize the lengths of games? You say that to me, you go ahead and say it to everyone else on this board.

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#38 xTHExJUICEx
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I didnt know cutscenes werent part of a game, I suppose I should just skip them all :?

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#39 reza
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im sure i read somewhere that 20 people worked on the witcher's openning movie for a year.

but i dont have any links. :)

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Just me, but I'd rather they spent their time on the game FIRST and then got the cutscenes finished after it was all polished and amazing. In other words, I think they need to get their priorities straight.TheEndBoss

Then you don't know what MGs4 is famous for.

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#41 AgentA-Mi6
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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

1 year on a CGI movie :?

that an amazing waste of time IMO.

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

Its not a platformer or a party game is that what bothers you?

No what bothers me is there so focused on making an "epic movie" that I think there negelcting the ACTUAL game and gameplay elements. No other studio spends so much time on CGI movie's like kojima. Make no sense to me why they need a year to develope a opening sequence to a GAME.

And FYI I hate party games :wink: Platformers are awome tho.

First of all why do you care about a Ps3 exclusive :? ? ... Anyway... Ryan Payton said that the gameplay was already finished not long ago didn't he? They're bug testing right now, the game was delayed because Kojima wants to release an absolutely perfect product from the opening movie to the credits lol.

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[QUOTE="TheEndBoss"]Just me, but I'd rather they spent their time on the game FIRST and then got the cutscenes finished after it was all polished and amazing. In other words, I think they need to get their priorities straight.thrones

Then you don't know what MGs4 is famous for.

Metal Gear Solid has an awesome story and cutscenes. Yes, I know that. But what I'm saying is I hope they gave this kind of attention to the game itself and the gameplay; if that's not good, those cutscenes an the story aren't going to have much of a point.

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bring on the scores of people who don't know the difference between CGI and MGS cutscenes.Mordred19
:lol: QFT
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#44 f50p90
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As if the entire team was working on the movie for a year, and they didn't have anyone working on gameplay :roll:
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what does it mean that they're real time?
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what does it mean that they're real time?xenos4

like in the sutscene in mgs series you can control the camere.zoom in and out--switch to fps view and etc...now in MSG4 it will be taken to an epic scale

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[QUOTE="ironcreed"]

LOL, well considering that this is part of the game, I think it will contribute towards making it a better production as a whole. But, just because they put so much time into the opening movie, you just automatically conclude that the game itself is getting less attention? Again, I think they know what they are doing. Besides, just who are you to tell Kojima Productions that "they need to get their priorities straight?"

TheEndBoss

I'm referring to the "game" as in the "gameplay". And like it or not, it's still a possibility that they're giving more attention to the cutscenes and story than the gameplay. I'm hoping they're not doing that, but if they are, they need to get their priorities straight. The game (or gameplay if you're going to get technical with me) needs to come first.

That last comment is just priceless. This entire board is meant for commentary on the industry. You can apply that to just about every thread or topic ever made on this board. Who are we to criticize Microsoft for having defective consoles? Who are we to criticize the third party on the Wii? Who are we to criticize the lengths of games? You say that to me, you go ahead and say it to everyone else on this board.

Sure, anythings possible, I have to give you the benefit of the doubt there. But considering Kojima's reputation, level of talent, huge expectations for this game from Konami, Sony and all of the fans, and also the fact that the movie sequences are being done separately by a completely different portion of the team, while Kojima and another portion of KP work on the gameplay, I think it more than stands to reason that it will all gel just fine.

As for your last comment, lol. Sure, it is easy for you to just spin my question by trying to use the justification of what everyone else says in here. I am well aware of all of the bashing and criticism that goes on in System Wars, and yes, this is indeed a board for commentary on the industry. But, for the sake of the conversation at hand, I was merely questioning what made you think that you were in any sort of authoritive position, or what credible reasons do you have to tell a development team that has the stature of Kojima Productions to get their priorities straight, when their track record thus far speaks for itself? Especially since MGS4 is supposed to be the proverbial 'cherry on top' of the cake that they have already built.

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what an incredible waste of time for something most gamers probably skip. maybe they should work on levels instead.
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#49 kirk4ever
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what an incredible waste of time for something most gamers probably skip. maybe they should work on levels instead.shoeman12

no body skips mgs cut scenes..it is the game

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#50 REforever101
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what an incredible waste of time for something most gamers probably skip. maybe they should work on levels instead.shoeman12

i would NEVER skip a cutscene in an mgs game. they're just too awesome

oh...and i dont think players are even able to