MGSR on 360 will not look better than MGS4 on PS3

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#101 washd123
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[QUOTE="Nedemis"][QUOTE="sillaris"]

MGS4 couldnt be done on 360

MGSR need to be on the same level on both consoles. because since PS3 has more power MGSR on PS3 would blow away MGSR on 360

HuusAsking

I honestly don't see one detail that couldn't be done on the 360 and more then likely could've been done with better textures. :|

What about the Octocamo? That was supposed to be extremely math-intensive--more suited to the SPEs than to a general-purpose CPU.

octocamo is less intensive than the active camo from halo 2 or crysis. both which take the surrounding textures and lighting into account.

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#102 C-Lee
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Why are their fanboys?
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#103 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="Nedemis"] I honestly don't see one detail that couldn't be done on the 360 and more then likely could've been done with better textures. :|washd123

What about the Octocamo? That was supposed to be extremely math-intensive--more suited to the SPEs than to a general-purpose CPU.

octocamo is less intensive than the active camo from halo 2 or crysis. both which take the surrounding textures and lighting into account.

Doesn't Octocamo also reshape itself, thus calling for dynamic model adjustment, which is more computationally intensive than simple texture recalculation?
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#104 Delsage
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Why are their fanboys?C-Lee
Don't know, why are there English teachers?
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#105 sillaris
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[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="Nedemis"] I honestly don't see one detail that couldn't be done on the 360 and more then likely could've been done with better textures. :|washd123

What about the Octocamo? That was supposed to be extremely math-intensive--more suited to the SPEs than to a general-purpose CPU.

octocamo is less intensive than the active camo from halo 2 or crysis. both which take the surrounding textures and lighting into account.

thats also a FACT kojima gave out 360 cant do the octocamo he said that like 2 years ago. o cool youre a dev for halo2 and crysis? o wait...
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#106 DarkGamer007
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[QUOTE="washd123"]

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]What about the Octocamo? That was supposed to be extremely math-intensive--more suited to the SPEs than to a general-purpose CPU.sillaris

octocamo is less intensive than the active camo from halo 2 or crysis. both which take the surrounding textures and lighting into account.

thats also a FACT kojima gave out 360 cant do the octocamo he said that like 2 years ago. o cool youre a dev for halo2 and crysis? o wait...

Link to this supposed fact that probably isn't?

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#107 Delsage
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[QUOTE="sillaris"][QUOTE="washd123"]

octocamo is less intensive than the active camo from halo 2 or crysis. both which take the surrounding textures and lighting into account.

DarkGamer007

thats also a FACT kojima gave out 360 cant do the octocamo he said that like 2 years ago. o cool youre a dev for halo2 and crysis? o wait...

Link to this supposed fact that probably isn't?

I believe this is what he was referring to.

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#108 DarkGamer007
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[QUOTE="DarkGamer007"]

[QUOTE="sillaris"] thats also a FACT kojima gave out 360 cant do the octocamo he said that like 2 years ago. o cool youre a dev for halo2 and crysis? o wait...Delsage

Link to this supposed fact that probably isn't?

I believe this is what he was referring to.

Right, so a developer who has no experience with the Xbox 360 hardware, and has never developed a game for it somehow has the knowledge to know what is possible on the Xbox 360? Just like how Final Fantasy XIII "wasn't possible on the Xbox 360."?

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#109 XanderZane
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kojima even said himself back before MGS4 was being made that 360 couldnt do PS3s graphics for MGS4 because PS3 has more power

so now with a new graphics engine for MGSR they need to downgrade the graphics on PS3 to be on par with 360. since kojima said MGS4 cant be done on 360 so its a fact that MGSR on PS3 will be the superior version

sillaris
Kojima has never even developed for the XBox 360. He has no clue. MGS4 can easily be done on the XBox 360. Don't believe developers who don't even have XBox 360 Dev kits in their studios. LOL!!
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#110 roddollente
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Who the F*** cares anyways? thisi sn't MGS. period. Konami only made this so that Xbox 360 fanboys would finally think MGS is coming to the 360. the true MGS will never be in the 360. i hope no one buys this game. not made by Kojima's team, not directed, produced, and written by Kojima. made by American developers who have no idea what MGS is all about. it's like playing those Spyro games not made by Insomniac. or those Jak & Daxter games not made by Naughty Dog. those kinda games

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#111 resevl4rlz
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the pc is going to be the best one

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#112 Krisgebis
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Who the F*** cares anyways? thisi sn't MGS. period. Konami only made this so that Xbox 360 fanboys would finally think MGS is coming to the 360. the true MGS will never be in the 360. i hope no one buys this game. not made by Kojima's team, not directed, produced, and written by Kojima. made by American developers who have no idea what MGS is all about. it's like playing those Spyro games not made by Insomniac. or those Jak & Daxter games not made by Naughty Dog. those kinda games

roddollente
Oh, so you mean the gameplay might actually be good? :-P
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#113 jakehouston88
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Duh, It's because of teh cell.

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#114 HFkami
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kojima even said himself back before MGS4 was being made that 360 couldnt do PS3s graphics for MGS4 because PS3 has more power

so now with a new graphics engine for MGSR they need to downgrade the graphics on PS3 to be on par with 360. since kojima said MGS4 cant be done on 360 so its a fact that MGSR on PS3 will be the superior version

sillaris

yeah but not for SLI :)

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#115 AnnoyedDragon
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yeah but not for SLI :)

HFkami

Why mention SLI? SLI is over kill unless you are pairing low end GPUs.

A single £80 range GPU will get you 1080p in most games these days.

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#116 Shinobi120
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kojima even said himself back before MGS4 was being made that 360 couldnt do PS3s graphics for MGS4 because PS3 has more power

so now with a new graphics engine for MGSR they need to downgrade the graphics on PS3 to be on par with 360. since kojima said MGS4 cant be done on 360 so its a fact that MGSR on PS3 will be the superior version

sillaris

Oh, really? LOL...

And MGS 4 wasn't even in real HD, by the way.

Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots = 1024x768 (2xAA, temporal).

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#117 XanderZane
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[QUOTE="Delsage"]

[QUOTE="DarkGamer007"]

Link to this supposed fact that probably isn't?

DarkGamer007

I believe this is what he was referring to.

Right, so a developer who has no experience with the Xbox 360 hardware, and has never developed a game for it somehow has the knowledge to know what is possible on the Xbox 360? Just like how Final Fantasy XIII "wasn't possible on the Xbox 360."?

That's what I was saying. Kojima doesn't even own a XBox 360 Dev Kit. He has no idea what the system is capable of. The effect he's talking about could easily be done on a PC and if it can be done on a PC, it can be done on the XBox 360. These developers are hilarious.
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#118 CleanNJerk
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well Batman already looks better than MGS4 so idk bout that.
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#119 Leo-Magic
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[QUOTE="sillaris"]

kojima even said himself back before MGS4 was being made that 360 couldnt do PS3s graphics for MGS4 because PS3 has more power

so now with a new graphics engine for MGSR they need to downgrade the graphics on PS3 to be on par with 360. since kojima said MGS4 cant be done on 360 so its a fact that MGSR on PS3 will be the superior version

please learn more.
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#120 mythrol
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Who the F*** cares anyways? thisi sn't MGS. period. Konami only made this so that Xbox 360 fanboys would finally think MGS is coming to the 360. the true MGS will never be in the 360. i hope no one buys this game. not made by Kojima's team, not directed, produced, and written by Kojima. made by American developers who have no idea what MGS is all about. it's like playing those Spyro games not made by Insomniac. or those Jak & Daxter games not made by Naughty Dog. those kinda gamesroddollente

You do realize that MGS 2 was released on the original xbox. Right? I'm pretty sure that was a "TRUE" MGS game.

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#121 CleanNJerk
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[QUOTE="roddollente"]

Who the F*** cares anyways? thisi sn't MGS. period. Konami only made this so that Xbox 360 fanboys would finally think MGS is coming to the 360. the true MGS will never be in the 360. i hope no one buys this game. not made by Kojima's team, not directed, produced, and written by Kojima. made by American developers who have no idea what MGS is all about. it's like playing those Spyro games not made by Insomniac. or those Jak & Daxter games not made by Naughty Dog. those kinda gamesmythrol

You do realize that MGS 2 was released on the 360 Right? I'm pretty sure that was a "TRUE" MGS game.

original xbox
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#122 Microdevine
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this is total bs from a sad fanboy. there on games that look better on the 360 than mgs4. gears 2 and re5 both do. it can be done.so quit spouting this crap. itll look just as good.and most likely better than mgs 4. and as for actually how good it is. it can be much improved. mgs 4 was far from perfect. i dont really care what gamespot says. thats just 1 review.

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#123 BlackTragedy
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everyone seems to think there game pushes a system to the max. and then a new game comes out and they say the same think. honestly we haven't seen the best till the end of the gen.
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#124 djsifer01
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Who cares? BTW, Kojima said the new engine is designed to have better graphics. We all know the PS3 is more powerful, no need to make ridiculous comments to prove your point.
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#125 deactivated-5f6dd6241fdcc
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[QUOTE="sillaris"]

MGS4 couldnt be done on 360

MGSR need to be on the same level on both consoles. because since PS3 has more power MGSR on PS3 would blow away MGSR on 360

Nedemis

I honestly don't see one detail that couldn't be done on the 360 and more then likely could've been done with better textures. :|

... and a better FPS and a higher resolution..!

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#126 RTUUMM
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It will look the same just with little improvement and differences.
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#127 SPYDER0416
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MGSR does have a pretty high chance of being of lower quality than MGS4, even then I don't know why the 360 fanboys care so much about MGSR when MGS4 was "just a movie" (although they have never played it, so its pretty obvious they don't know what they are talking about).

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#128 67gt500
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If a game is multiplatform, you can pretty much guarantee that the xbox360 version will be graphically superior...
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#129 RyuRanVII
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I bet all three versions of Rising will look better than Metal Gear Solid 4, especially the PC one.

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#130 gamefan274
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[QUOTE="sillaris"]

MGS4 couldnt be done on 360

MGSR need to be on the same level on both consoles. because since PS3 has more power MGSR on PS3 would blow away MGSR on 360

That not the point though TC. The point is no one cares. And this is coming from a PS3 fanboy!
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#131 hukibeast
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It's an modified version of the MGS4 engine. It will most likely look better.IronBass

TACTICAL FACEPALM

It's a whole new engine.

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#132 roddollente
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Who the F*** cares anyways? thisi sn't MGS. period. Konami only made this so that Xbox 360 fanboys would finally think MGS is coming to the 360. the true MGS will never be in the 360. i hope no one buys this game. not made by Kojima's team, not directed, produced, and written by Kojima. made by American developers who have no idea what MGS is all about. it's like playing those Spyro games not made by Insomniac. or those Jak & Daxter games not made by Naughty Dog. those kinda gamesmythrol

You do realize that MGS 2 was released on the original xbox. Right? I'm pretty sure that was a "TRUE" MGS game.

you also realize that it was basically a port, and that they released a year later, and that they added features like an FPS mission which is totally stupid jsut to cater to the NA audience, right? Kojima never made a game for the Xbox or the 360. period.

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#133 hukibeast
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[QUOTE="mythrol"]

[QUOTE="roddollente"]

Who the F*** cares anyways? thisi sn't MGS. period. Konami only made this so that Xbox 360 fanboys would finally think MGS is coming to the 360. the true MGS will never be in the 360. i hope no one buys this game. not made by Kojima's team, not directed, produced, and written by Kojima. made by American developers who have no idea what MGS is all about. it's like playing those Spyro games not made by Insomniac. or those Jak & Daxter games not made by Naughty Dog. those kinda gamesroddollente

You do realize that MGS 2 was released on the original xbox. Right? I'm pretty sure that was a "TRUE" MGS game.

you also realize that it was basically a port, and that they released a year later, and that they added features like an FPS mission which is totally stupid jsut to cater to the NA audience, right? Kojima never made a game for the Xbox or the 360. period.

WAT A DUMBCLUCK. The original 2 Metal Gear were made on the MSX. The first Microsoft Video Game System. AND NO, they didn't add the FPS for the XBox version, it was for a multiplat re-release known as Substance. And Kojima stated that MGS:R will be a full fledged MGS. Epic fail.
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#134 godzillavskong
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[QUOTE="sillaris"]

kojima even said himself back before MGS4 was being made that 360 couldnt do PS3s graphics for MGS4 because PS3 has more power

so now with a new graphics engine for MGSR they need to downgrade the graphics on PS3 to be on par with 360. since kojima said MGS4 cant be done on 360 so its a fact that MGSR on PS3 will be the superior version

The 360 version will not have to look any better than the PS3 version, just as long as it looks as good as MGS4. I also think that if there is a graphical difference, it will be minor. Lets just hope the game is fun, and worry about the graphical war next console round
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#135 badtaker
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Who cares? BTW, Kojima said the new engine is designed to have better graphics. We all know the PS3 is more powerful, no need to make ridiculous comments to prove your point.djsifer01
Who cares? BTW, Kojima said the new engine is designed to have better graphics. We all know the PC is more powerful, no need to make ridiculous comments to prove your point.