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As expected, the new model comes with a 120GB hard drive and HDMI support, along with HD cables, wireless controller, and Xbox Live headset. Both the console and controllers will feature a premium black finish.

Although the Xbox 360 Elite was hardly a secret in recent weeks, a number of details swirling around the rumor mill proved incorrect. The new console has not been changed internally to take advantage of a 65-nanometer CPU, which was expected to bring down manufacturing costs.

Also missing is a built-in HD DVD drive, or rumored quieter DVD drive. While Microsoft has said it plans to eventually build HD DVD into its consoles, the company is apparently waiting for production costs to come down before it does so.

"[The Xbox 360 Elite is a] nice evolutionary update that clearly shows where Microsoft is heading with this product," JupiterResearch analyst Michael Gartenberg said. "While the core emphasis is still on games, no doubt Microsoft has some ideas how you might fill that hard disk.

Gartenberg was primarily referring to Xbox Live Marketplace, which was bulked up Wednesday with content from A&E Network, ADV Films, National Geographic and TotalVid.com. In addition, Paramount Films will offer its feature films for download in high-definition.

http://www.betanews.com/article/Microsoft_Announces_Xbox_360_Elite/1175096461

got to love the milkage :lol:

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#2 Guess_With_ReX
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As long a i get to play Halo 3 on my XBOX 360 that i own right now, there is nothing MS can do that I care about. 360 FTW
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As expected, the new model comes with a 120GB hard drive and HDMI support, along with HD cables, wireless controller, and Xbox Live headset. Both the console and controllers will feature a premium black finish.

Although the Xbox 360 Elite was hardly a secret in recent weeks, a number of details swirling around the rumor mill proved incorrect. The new console has not been changed internally to take advantage of a 65-nanometer CPU, which was expected to bring down manufacturing costs.

Also missing is a built-in HD DVD drive, or rumored quieter DVD drive. While Microsoft has said it plans to eventually build HD DVD into its consoles, the company is apparently waiting for production costs to come down before it does so.

"[The Xbox 360 Elite is a] nice evolutionary update that clearly shows where Microsoft is heading with this product," JupiterResearch analyst Michael Gartenberg said. "While the core emphasis is still on games, no doubt Microsoft has some ideas how you might fill that hard disk.

Gartenberg was primarily referring to Xbox Live Marketplace, which was bulked up Wednesday with content from A&E Network, ADV Films, National Geographic and TotalVid.com. In addition, Paramount Films will offer its feature films for download in high-definition.

http://www.betanews.com/article/Microsoft_Announces_Xbox_360_Elite/1175096461

got to love the milkage :lol:

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OH noes microsoft stoop, please stop yanking the money out of my wallet! walways me! :cry:
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Halo is the new Yu-Gi-Oh!!!!
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#5 Thrice_III
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They can't seriously be thinking of doing something like this? Can they?
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#6 Nike_Air
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HD-DVD ? What they heck are they thinking ? Jeez

 

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#7 magus-21
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Two or three years until HD-DVD is built in, at least. Or BluRay, if HD-DVD is totally defeated by then.
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#8 Danm_999
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the company is apparently waiting for production costs to come down before it does so.InfamousC
Or waiting until the HD format wars become a bit more relevant to consumers.
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What? Lol. That was unexpected.
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bu bu bu teh complicated and expensive PC upgrades :lol: :lol:
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wtf and i thought it wont get any more worst for lemmings..
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Oh no, optional upgrades!
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I don't think MS will go that far, because they're not too sure that HD DVD is going to win out either.
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I don't think MS will go that far, because they're not too sure that HD DVD is going to win out either.xboxdevil
If they do something like this but instead choose Bluray. That would be hilarious.
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#15 Anoch20
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So yet another model, I think they are going for a record.
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[QUOTE="xboxdevil"]I don't think MS will go that far, because they're not too sure that HD DVD is going to win out either.tegovoltio
If they do something like this but instead choose Bluray. That would be hilarious.

lmao yeah i remember Microsoft said there is possiblity that they will support blue ray in the future..lol..New Elite xbox360 confirmed with Blue Ray!! 

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:lol: put the mouse over the the link that says HD DVD and it will show a Blue ray ad..
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A new 360 for every year.
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Didnt they say not to long ago that if they had to they would put blu-ray updates in the 360? Im wondering is this a stupid move on there part, blu-ray is winning the hddvd vs blu-ray fight. So what are they thinking? Oh well I dont have a 360, or ps3 to worry about that war ...
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Probably not. It's losing the format war atm so they're not going to place a dying format into their console. If things turn around and it beat Blu-ray then I can see it being put in the 360, but I doubt it.
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Xbox 360 SKUs - gotta catch 'em all.
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XBox 360 Ultimate here we go.
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Didnt they say not to long ago that if they had to they would put blu-ray updates in the 360? Im wondering is this a stupid move on there part, blu-ray is winning the hddvd vs blu-ray fight. So what are they thinking? Oh well I dont have a 360, or ps3 to worry about that war ...SyinnX

if m$ would have put an hd-dvd player in their console from the start hd-dvd more then likely would be winning now. but it is understandable that they didn't as what do they have to gain from winning the format war.

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Two or three years until HD-DVD is built in, at least. Or BluRay, if HD-DVD is totally defeated by then.magus-21

but...what will happen to us already 360 owners ?? i mean, are we going to be completely PWN3D ??? because,

if they release consoles with built in BR or HDDVD ( depending on the format winner, in like 2 or 3 more years ) ...

whats gonna happen to us ? will we be forced to get a new console ???.....

well i think we should ask this to a MS representant :( ...

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1: Do you even have an HDTV? 2: HD-DVD is losing so what if it's good they didn't include it?
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It is getting REALLY tiresome, adding a Wifi, a HD-DVD, more HDD, a HDMI

WILL THOSE HELP ME PLAY MY GAMES BETTER ???

NOT ONE OF THEM !!!!!

I bought 360 because it has the VERY BEST of games, and will jsut get more, get FF13 too as things go, i do not need anything else, so i spit at any other version bar Premium, 20 GB HDD will be more than enough for all DL content for some YEARS, no worries there

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[QUOTE="SyinnX"]Didnt they say not to long ago that if they had to they would put blu-ray updates in the 360? Im wondering is this a stupid move on there part, blu-ray is winning the hddvd vs blu-ray fight. So what are they thinking? Oh well I dont have a 360, or ps3 to worry about that war ...InfamousC

if m$ would have put an hd-dvd player in their console from the start hd-dvd more then likely would be winning now. but it is understandable that they didn't as what do they have to gain from winning the format war.

The only reason MS entered this war at all was in an attempt to stall an easy victory by Blu-Ray. They hope to keep this war going as long as possible, in the hopes that neither will become mainstream, and then their download services can come in and steal the victory.
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[QUOTE="InfamousC"]

[QUOTE="SyinnX"]Didnt they say not to long ago that if they had to they would put blu-ray updates in the 360? Im wondering is this a stupid move on there part, blu-ray is winning the hddvd vs blu-ray fight. So what are they thinking? Oh well I dont have a 360, or ps3 to worry about that war ...makingmusic476

if m$ would have put an hd-dvd player in their console from the start hd-dvd more then likely would be winning now. but it is understandable that they didn't as what do they have to gain from winning the format war.

The only reason MS entered this war at all was in an attempt to stall an easy victory by Blu-Ray. They hope to keep this war going as long as possible, in the hopes that neither will become mainstream, and then their download services can come in and steal the victory.

??? 360 is for games ONLY, PS3 is the one that has Bluray built in, want it or not ....

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HD-DVD ? What they heck are they thinking ? Jeez

 

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Yeah nobody wants options? :roll: Go live in Cuba if you don't want options.

 

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MS representatives ,just the other day, said they have no plans on adopting an HD movie format until a clear cut winner is declared.
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As expected, the new model comes with a 120GB hard drive and HDMI support, along with HD cables, wireless controller, and Xbox Live headset. Both the console and controllers will feature a premium black finish.

Although the Xbox 360 Elite was hardly a secret in recent weeks, a number of details swirling around the rumor mill proved incorrect. The new console has not been changed internally to take advantage of a 65-nanometer CPU, which was expected to bring down manufacturing costs.

Also missing is a built-in HD DVD drive, or rumored quieter DVD drive. While Microsoft has said it plans to eventually build HD DVD into its consoles, the company is apparently waiting for production costs to come down before it does so.

"[The Xbox 360 Elite is a] nice evolutionary update that clearly shows where Microsoft is heading with this product," JupiterResearch analyst Michael Gartenberg said. "While the core emphasis is still on games, no doubt Microsoft has some ideas how you might fill that hard disk.

Gartenberg was primarily referring to Xbox Live Marketplace, which was bulked up Wednesday with content from A&E Network, ADV Films, National Geographic and TotalVid.com. In addition, Paramount Films will offer its feature films for download in high-definition.

http://www.betanews.com/article/Microsoft_Announces_Xbox_360_Elite/1175096461

got to love the milkage :lol:

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Wow talk about MS starting to behave desperat. They are promoting a dead movie format to a consol.

 

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i guess microsoft are big fans of "meet the fockers". seems they took the part about ben stiller saying "you can milk anything with nipples" a little too serious :D
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[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

HD-DVD ? What they heck are they thinking ? Jeez

 

PS3_3DO

Yeah nobody wants options? :roll: Go live in Cuba if you don't want options.

 

Yea because recent 360 owners had the option to choose the 360 that had the HDMI output for their HDTV.:roll:

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[QUOTE="SyinnX"]Didnt they say not to long ago that if they had to they would put blu-ray updates in the 360? Im wondering is this a stupid move on there part, blu-ray is winning the hddvd vs blu-ray fight. So what are they thinking? Oh well I dont have a 360, or ps3 to worry about that war ...InfamousC

if m$ would have put an hd-dvd player in their console from the start hd-dvd more then likely would be winning now. but it is understandable that they didn't as what do they have to gain from winning the format war.

If Microsoft had done that the 360 would have released right around the time the PS3 did. The reason they chose not to make it standard is so they could beat Sony and Nintendo to the market.
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Will the milkage never end ??? 

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Probably not. It's losing the format war atm so they're not going to place a dying format into their console. If things turn around and it beat Blu-ray then I can see it being put in the 360, but I doubt it.the-very-best

If that happens Sony will be making a profit for every 360 sold? because of the copyright and all that..

 

right?

 

if it happens then MS got owned

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[QUOTE="the-very-best"]Probably not. It's losing the format war atm so they're not going to place a dying format into their console. If things turn around and it beat Blu-ray then I can see it being put in the 360, but I doubt it.def_mode

If that happens Sony will be making a profit for every 360 sold? because of the copyright and all that..

 

right?

 

if it happens then MS got owned

My Sony Vaio uses Windows, W Media Center, Express...and so on.
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Im tired of people saying "not everyone has HDTV" or "do you have an HDTV"

NEVER put this thing on the argument anymore, its not as accurate as it used to back then.

HDTV owners are strating to increase, maybe not that fast but people around the world obviously does want an HDTV and once day will purchase one.

 

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1: Do you even have an HDTV? 2: HD-DVD is losing so what if it's good they didn't include it?X360PS3AMD05

i guess you are directing those questions at me. Yes i do and if M$ would have put an hd-dvd player in the console from the start the format would not be loosing the war so badly now.

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[QUOTE="def_mode"]

[QUOTE="the-very-best"]Probably not. It's losing the format war atm so they're not going to place a dying format into their console. If things turn around and it beat Blu-ray then I can see it being put in the 360, but I doubt it.dru26

If that happens Sony will be making a profit for every 360 sold? because of the copyright and all that..

 

right?

 

if it happens then MS got owned

My Sony Vaio uses Windows, W Media Center, Express...and so on.

and millions of people using Pirated version of Windows, thats why MS was forced to build the Genuine thing.

remember?

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As expected, the new model comes with a 120GB hard drive and HDMI support, along with HD cables, wireless controller, and Xbox Live headset. Both the console and controllers will feature a premium black finish.

Although the Xbox 360 Elite was hardly a secret in recent weeks, a number of details swirling around the rumor mill proved incorrect. The new console has not been changed internally to take advantage of a 65-nanometer CPU, which was expected to bring down manufacturing costs.

Also missing is a built-in HD DVD drive, or rumored quieter DVD drive. While Microsoft has said it plans to eventually build HD DVD into its consoles, the company is apparently waiting for production costs to come down before it does so.

"[The Xbox 360 Elite is a] nice evolutionary update that clearly shows where Microsoft is heading with this product," JupiterResearch analyst Michael Gartenberg said. "While the core emphasis is still on games, no doubt Microsoft has some ideas how you might fill that hard disk.

Gartenberg was primarily referring to Xbox Live Marketplace, which was bulked up Wednesday with content from A&E Network, ADV Films, National Geographic and TotalVid.com. In addition, Paramount Films will offer its feature films for download in high-definition.

http://www.betanews.com/article/Microsoft_Announces_Xbox_360_Elite/1175096461

got to love the milkage :lol:

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Are we going to have a 4th SKU? :lol: 

not changed internally? Could have at least fixed the heat problems  :/

Evolutionary? Nah. 

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[QUOTE="InfamousC"]

[QUOTE="SyinnX"]Didnt they say not to long ago that if they had to they would put blu-ray updates in the 360? Im wondering is this a stupid move on there part, blu-ray is winning the hddvd vs blu-ray fight. So what are they thinking? Oh well I dont have a 360, or ps3 to worry about that war ...sainraja

if m$ would have put an hd-dvd player in their console from the start hd-dvd more then likely would be winning now. but it is understandable that they didn't as what do they have to gain from winning the format war.

If Microsoft had done that the 360 would have released right around the time the PS3 did. The reason they chose not to make it standard is so they could beat Sony and Nintendo to the market.

Exactly right. The 360 would have just come out. HD-DVD wasn't ready, and M$ didn't want to wait.
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[QUOTE="InfamousC"]

[QUOTE="SyinnX"]Didnt they say not to long ago that if they had to they would put blu-ray updates in the 360? Im wondering is this a stupid move on there part, blu-ray is winning the hddvd vs blu-ray fight. So what are they thinking? Oh well I dont have a 360, or ps3 to worry about that war ...makingmusic476

if m$ would have put an hd-dvd player in their console from the start hd-dvd more then likely would be winning now. but it is understandable that they didn't as what do they have to gain from winning the format war.

The only reason MS entered this war at all was in an attempt to stall an easy victory by Blu-Ray. They hope to keep this war going as long as possible, in the hopes that neither will become mainstream, and then their download services can come in and steal the victory.

 

Exactly Right, as well. It's so true. 

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[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

HD-DVD ? What they heck are they thinking ? Jeez

 

wingman3030

Yeah nobody wants options? :roll: Go live in Cuba if you don't want options.

 

Yea because recent 360 owners had the option to choose the 360 that had the HDMI output for their HDTV.:roll:

For the last time 1.3 HDMI wasn't ready in time until middle of 2006. MS could not wait and delay the launch of the 360. :|

 

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I personally think that the Xbox 360 Elite should have: 120 GB HDD, Built-in Wi-Fi (for god sakes MS, this should've been in there!), HD-DVD add-on, 65 nm chip, HDMI, wireless controller, wired headset, vision camera, and 1 year of XBL for $600.

Yeah, they would take a hit on every Elite sold, but that way, people could directly compare a PS3 to an Elite. Both would be $600 and have all the same stuff, except the 360 would have a 120 GB HDD instead of 60 GB HDD. That's what I would've done.

But now I think MS screwed up the Elite. They had the chance to really bury Sony, but they screwed it up...

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[QUOTE="wingman3030"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Yeah nobody wants options? :roll: Go live in Cuba if you don't want options.

 

PS3_3DO

Yea because recent 360 owners had the option to choose the 360 that had the HDMI output for their HDTV.:roll:

For the last time 1.3 HDMI wasn't ready in time until middle of 2006. MS could not wait and delay the launch of the 360. :|

 

what is wrong with version 1.2? It's not like everyone has an hdmi version 1.3 cable tv as they just came out this year and they are so exspensive the average consumer can't afford them anyway.

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#47 da1on2
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Why not just build PS3's and sell them?
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#48 InfamousC
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I personally think that the Xbox 360 Elite should have: 120 GB HDD, Built-in Wi-Fi (for god sakes MS, this should've been in there!), HD-DVD add-on, 65 nm chip, HDMI, wireless controller, wired headset, vision camera, and 1 year of XBL for $600.

Yeah, they would take a hit on every Elite sold, but that way, people could directly compare a PS3 to an Elite. Both would be $600 and have all the same stuff, except the 360 would have a 120 GB HDD instead of 60 GB HDD. That's what I would've done.

But now I think MS screwed up the Elite. They had the chance to really bury Sony, but they screwed it up...

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they would have been better off if they just made newer model 360s(the core and the premium packages) with the hdmi port and released the hdd as an option.

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#49 king-kill33
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Halo is the new Yu-Gi-Oh!!!!Koalakommander
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[QUOTE="wingman3030"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

HD-DVD ? What they heck are they thinking ? Jeez

PS3_3DO

Yeah nobody wants options? :roll: Go live in Cuba if you don't want options.

Yea because recent 360 owners had the option to choose the 360 that had the HDMI output for their HDTV.:roll:

For the last time 1.3 HDMI wasn't ready in time until middle of 2006. MS could not wait and delay the launch of the 360. :|

Noone is blaming you for investing into a rushed console. :lol: