Microsoft exclusive developers not talent at all when it comes to push the 360.

Lol who cares? As long as they make good games, it doesn't really matter. :?

If you care about "pushing the system", get a PC.

Internet, the place where the ones that don't have any idea what they are talking about become experts.IronBass

[QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"][QUOTE="gamewhat"]To show what the 360 can do? Alrightyyyyyyy then. Remember this buddy, you got lied to about the power. It;s sad but the best the 360 can do is well....Gears 2, which is a wonderful game in its own right. Of course you could make a new game engine for 360 games, but they will not be as good as the unreal engine, I promise you that. I'll be looking forward to well a game that ends with a 2. I've been turned in for posts a lot less than this so feel free to take it as you wish.gamewhat

Oh really, lol. Sorry bro but this isn't 2006 anymore, and ...hmmmm..... well some things are already dated and out of **** Why is it then that unreal 3 games are better on the 360 than the ps3. It's because that engine fits the 360 perfectly just like conventional pc hardware (which the 360 is right?). Ask yourself this. WHy is it that games like MGS4, Uncharted, and yes the game that ends up with a 2 at the end are vastly superior in every aspect? I won't tell you but when that next xbox comes out (sounds yummy doesnt it) you will find out why. You will find out that what everyone was trying to tell you was the 360 was easier to develop for, not that it was just as powerful or more powerful, there is a reason why ps3 exclusives make 360 games look dated. Personally though bro it doesn't matter that the PS3 can pull off games like killzone2 or mgs4 with ease (ps3 only uses 40 to 60 percent of its power for killzone2) but is what matters is the games and the online service which is better on the 360. Ps3 will never have games like crackdown so why all the sadness about power or graphics? It will never happen on the 360. Once again take it as you wish, but remember this don't say I told you so.

I'd love to see someone like yourself post this sort of twoddle on a more technical forum and get absolutely ripped apart. You really have no idea what you're talking about.

[QUOTE="IronBass"]Internet, the place where the ones that don't have any idea what they are talking about become experts.killerfist

It is just a difference in design strategy. Epic sits outside of this, but BioWare spent the large majority of their resources for Mass Effect on the story and writing.

Bungie wanted 4 player splitscreen, stable multiplayer, and a large number of enemies on screen.

Mistwalker was focusing on making a large amount of content and a good story.

Rather than pouring resources into the graphics tech, the 360 developers spend their money and time on other things. Doesn't make them not talented, just not focused purely on graphics.

I thought Banjo looked pretty amazing.Master-Thief-09

This is something I've noticed too. Unlike with Sony, I've yet to see any 1st party MS games that are really impressive compared to multiplats, eg Halo 3 in sub-HD. Floppy_Jim

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]This is something I've noticed too. Unlike with Sony, I've yet to see any 1st party MS games that are really impressive compared to multiplats, eg Halo 3 in sub-HD. SpruceCaboose

sad part is microsoft has more money

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]This is something I've noticed too. Unlike with Sony, I've yet to see any 1st party MS games that are really impressive compared to multiplats, eg Halo 3 in sub-HD. dsfsdfsdfsdffdg

sad part is microsoft has more money

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]This is something I've noticed too. Unlike with Sony, I've yet to see any 1st party MS games that are really impressive compared to multiplats, eg Halo 3 in sub-HD. dsfsdfsdfsdffdg

sad part is microsoft has more money

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]This is something I've noticed too. Unlike with Sony, I've yet to see any 1st party MS games that are really impressive compared to multiplats, eg Halo 3 in sub-HD. SpruceCaboose

I've been very pleased with exclusive Xbox360 games: Gears series, Halo3, FableII, MassEffect, Banjo, Kameo, Dead Rising, NG2.

I think they've all done a great job showing what the Xbox360 is capable of.

[QUOTE="dsfsdfsdfsdffdg"]

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] Bungie had different goals for Halo 3's look besides photo-realism. And I like what they did, personally. But really, MS does not have the amount of first party studios that Sony has, so its not unexpected that Sony has more studios that can push their system.IronBass

sad part is microsoft has more money

its obvious microsoft doesnt care about xbox360.

sony try to supply ps3 with first party exclusives xbox360 has none really.

while microsoft basically depends souly on third party developers.

I've been very pleased with exclusive Xbox360 games: Gears series, Halo3, FableII, MassEffect, Banjo, Kameo, Dead Rising, NG2.

I think they've all done a great job showing what the Xbox360 is capable of.

LosDaddie

dead rising isnt impressive because none of the zombies have ragdolls.

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

I've been very pleased with exclusive Xbox360 games: Gears series, Halo3, FableII, MassEffect, Banjo, Kameo, Dead Rising, NG2.

I think they've all done a great job showing what the Xbox360 is capable of.

dsfsdfsdfsdffdg

dead rising isnt impressive because none of the zombies have ragdolls.

if dead rising had hundreds of character on screen each with ragdoll physics then i would of been impressed.

that would require a really fast cpu i guess xbox360 cpu wasnt up to the task....i wonder if cell could of handled it

[QUOTE="dsfsdfsdfsdffdg"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

I've been very pleased with exclusive Xbox360 games: Gears series, Halo3, FableII, MassEffect, Banjo, Kameo, Dead Rising, NG2.

I think they've all done a great job showing what the Xbox360 is capable of.

killerfist

dead rising isnt impressive because none of the zombies have ragdolls.

i kill a zombie on some stairs and he just floats lol overtop of stairs he doesnt roll down like he should.

it's like quake 1996 death animations.

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="dsfsdfsdfsdffdg"]

sad part is microsoft has more money

dsfsdfsdfsdffdg

its obvious microsoft doesnt care about xbox360.

sony try to supply ps3 with first party exclusives xbox360 has none really.

while microsoft basically depends souly on third party developers.

You talk about it like it was a bad thing. What made the PS1/2 that successful was exactly that: exclusive third party support.

MS is doing an awesome job with its exclusive lineup. Yes, most of them aren't first/second party, but that doesn't change what a great job they are doing for catering third party devs for doing exclusive games/content for their console.

If you ask me, that shows that they care about the 360.

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="dsfsdfsdfsdffdg"]

sad part is microsoft has more money

dsfsdfsdfsdffdg

its obvious microsoft doesnt care about xbox360.

sony try to supply ps3 with first party exclusives xbox360 has none really.

while microsoft basically depends souly on third party developers.

lol on doom3 if you spawn like 60 zombies in a room and them blow them up ur framerate will literally **** freaking zero 0 lol.

my cpu cant handle that many ragdolls at once reacting with each.

that's the reason xbox360 has no ragdolls in dead rising :) .....

lol on doom3 if you spawn like 60 zombies in a room and them blow them up ur framerate will literally **** freaking zero 0 lol.

my cpu cant handle that many ragdolls at once reacting with each.

that's the reason xbox360 has no ragdolls in dead rising :) .....

dsfsdfsdfsdffdg

[QUOTE="dsfsdfsdfsdffdg"]

lol on doom3 if you spawn like 60 zombies in a room and them blow them up ur framerate will literally **** freaking zero 0 lol.

my cpu cant handle that many ragdolls at once reacting with each.

that's the reason xbox360 has no ragdolls in dead rising :) .....

killerfist

it is important.

who doesnt want to see a crowd of zombies get blown up/flop around lol.

im wondering how many zombies with ragdolls 360/cpu could handle before it becomes unplayable.

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

I've been very pleased with exclusive Xbox360 games: Gears series, Halo3, FableII, MassEffect, Banjo, Kameo, Dead Rising, NG2.

I think they've all done a great job showing what the Xbox360 is capable of.

dsfsdfsdfsdffdg

dead rising isnt impressive because none of the zombies have ragdolls.

I don't care.

Dead Rising is one of my favorite games of this gen. Great story too. :)

IMO Fable 2 pushes the 360.JLF1

[QUOTE="dsfsdfsdfsdffdg"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

I've been very pleased with exclusive Xbox360 games: Gears series, Halo3, FableII, MassEffect, Banjo, Kameo, Dead Rising, NG2.

I think they've all done a great job showing what the Xbox360 is capable of.

LosDaddie

dead rising isnt impressive because none of the zombies have ragdolls.

I don't care.

Dead Rising is one of my favorite games of this gen. Great story too. :)

main reason no ragdolls they probley just wanted a large number of zombies on screen and probley with ragdolls enabled they couldnt handle enough zombies on screen.

I do not agree at all, games like Fable 2, Banjo 3, Gears 2, Lost odyssey that looks far better than Killzone 2, all are some fo the best looking, most huge and detailed games in the industry

Star Ocean 4 and a host of 2009 titles are also some of the best looking and most huge and detailed games ever created, check the links below

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26715971&tag=topics;title

http://www.worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=58967

I don't care about your RPGS since any of those are pushing the hardware,Gears 2 does better things than KZ2,but is just the darm lighting system in KZ that makes it to look a lot better.McdonaIdsGuy

ue3.0 can easily do killzone2 lighting it's all how the devs make their lighting for the game.

ue3.0 can easily do killzone2 lighting it's all how the devs make their lighting for the game.

dsfsdfsdfsdffdg

Killzone 2's rendering engine is specifically designed to allow many dynamic light sources, UE3 is not.

[QUOTE="dsfsdfsdfsdffdg"]

ue3.0 can easily do killzone2 lighting it's all how the devs make their lighting for the game.

Teufelhuhn

Killzone 2's rendering engine is specifically designed to allow many dynamic light sources, UE3 is not.

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="dsfsdfsdfsdffdg"]

ue3.0 can easily do killzone2 lighting it's all how the devs make their lighting for the game.

McdonaIdsGuy

Killzone 2's rendering engine is specifically designed to allow many dynamic light sources, UE3 is not.

I'm so glad better graphics dont equal a better game. InfinityMugen

A large amount of the time it does. Because off the bat it shows how much effort the devs are putting into the game.

[QUOTE="InfinityMugen"]I'm so glad better graphics dont equal a better game. Espada12

A large amount of the time it does. Because off the bat it shows how much effort the devs are putting into the game.

[QUOTE="InfinityMugen"]I'm so glad better graphics dont equal a better game. Espada12

A large amount of the time it does. Because off the bat it shows how much effort the devs are putting into the game.

Not at all. Many of the best games this gen have gotten away without pushing any significant graphical boundries.

Halo 3, MSG4, SSBB, Mario Galaxy GTA4, Ninja Gaiden 2, Valkryia Chronicles, Bioshock, L4D and a long list of other games don't really have the strongest graphics, but all met with generally positive universal acclaim. If anything, the titles I've listed pushed an immersive artstyle more than technical graphic.

It seems to me some devs focus on giving gamers more eye candy that actual substance.

[QUOTE="InfinityMugen"]I'm so glad better graphics dont equal a better game. Espada12

A large amount of the time it does. Because off the bat it shows how much effort the devs are putting into the game.

Have you even played Banjooie Kazooie Nuts N Bolts? The graphics are amazing.halo2mad12345

Banjo is not an overhyped PS3 game, so noone cares for some of the best graphics this generation that game has obviously, that is rather clear

Below are the real best looking titles in 2009, some of those look 10x better than Killzone 2 imo, but they are all on 360, so again noone will notice, because on this planet only the hyped things get awarded

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26715971

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