Microsoft: go ask konami about xbox mgs4

http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2008/07/14/microsoft-go-ask-konami-if-metal-gear-solid-4-is-xbox-bound/

So I asked Greenberg when Microsoft would be announcing that "Metal Gear Solid 4" would be coming to the Xbox 360. It is the only major PS3 third-party game still exclusive to Sony's system.

Greenberg laughed and said: "That's a question for Konami."

Kojima Is loyal to Sony

there wont be 360 mgs4

Kojima Is loyal to Sony

there wont be 360 mgs4

Faulttt

yeah, just like square?

oh.. my bad

Kojima Is loyal to Sony

Faulttt

Thats why MGS was on the PC? Thats why MGS2 was on the X-box and PC? Thats why MGS TTS was on the Gamecube? Thats why Metal Gear: Ghost Bable was on the Gameboy Color? Thats why the entire boktai series was on the GBA and Nintendo DS?

I agree that MGS4 will likely never apear on the 360, but I wouldnt say it's because Kojima is loyal.

yeah, just like square?

oh.. my bad

yanni1

Square was never loyal to Sony, they've been making Spinoff FF games for Nintendo, they STARTED on nintendo, and they made FFXI on 360.

They're different, MGS4 on 360 won't happen.

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Kojima Is loyal to Sony

vashkey

Thats why MGS was on the PC? Thats why MGS2 was on the X-box and PC? Thats why MGS TTS was on the Gamecube? Thats why Metal Gear: Ghost Bable was on the Gameboy Color? Thats why the entire boktai series was on the GBA and Nintendo DS?

I agree that MGS4 will likely never apear on the 360, but I wouldnt say it's because Kojima is loyal.

Yeah that probably explains why MGS3 went to the Xbo--oh wait....

Sorry, I just had to do that :P

[QUOTE="yanni1"]

yeah, just like square?

oh.. my bad

TenP

Square was never loyal to Sony, they've been making Spinoff FF games for Nintendo, they STARTED on nintendo, and they made FFXI on 360.

They're different, MGS4 on 360 won't happen.

lol square follow the money. when ps3 steps in 360's face square will follow the money. But M$ has deep pockets so their willing to pay for more ff.

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Kojima Is loyal to Sony

vashkey

Thats why MGS was on the PC? Thats why MGS2 was on the X-box and PC? Thats why MGS TTS was on the Gamecube? Thats why Metal Gear: Ghost Bable was on the Gameboy Color? Thats why the entire boktai series was on the GBA and Nintendo DS?

I agree that MGS4 will likely never apear on the 360, but I wouldnt say it's because Kojima is loyal.

whats boktai?

[QUOTE="yanni1"]

yeah, just like square?

oh.. my bad

TenP

Square was never loyal to Sony, they've been making Spinoff FF games for Nintendo, they STARTED on nintendo, and they made FFXI on 360.

They're different, MGS4 on 360 won't happen.

I agree with what you say about Square, but I could see MGS4 going to the 360. I mean there's money to be made there so why not? One reason I could see for it not showing up on the 360 is if Sony has a say in it.

$$$

Kojima Is loyal to Sony

there wont be 360 mgs4

Faulttt

[QUOTE="TenP"][QUOTE="yanni1"]

yeah, just like square?

oh.. my bad

ff7isnumbaone

Square was never loyal to Sony, they've been making Spinoff FF games for Nintendo, they STARTED on nintendo, and they made FFXI on 360.

They're different, MGS4 on 360 won't happen.

lol square follow the money. when ps3 steps in 360's face square will follow the money. But M$ has deep pockets so their willing to pay for more ff.

See they knew that FF13 on the PS3 would have sold great and more than MGS4 simply because of how big the FF name is...I think what pushed them to accepting MS's offer is the fact that they are going dead broke from slow development and needed some money.

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Kojima Is loyal to Sony

ff7isnumbaone

Thats why MGS was on the PC? Thats why MGS2 was on the X-box and PC? Thats why MGS TTS was on the Gamecube? Thats why Metal Gear: Ghost Bable was on the Gameboy Color? Thats why the entire boktai series was on the GBA and Nintendo DS?

I agree that MGS4 will likely never apear on the 360, but I wouldnt say it's because Kojima is loyal.

whats boktai?

A handheld series where playing the game in actual sunlight(not han made sources of light, like light bulbs) powers up your main character.

It wasn't very big. Most of the series was on the GBA, but there was one on the DS.

Yeah you can tell that Square changed their loyalties based off of cash flow. Potential sales is not enough to woo them considering that 360's weakest market is by far Japan. In fact, 360 is by far the weakest console in Japan despite having what I consider to be the best Japan-friendly game library of the three consoles.

Think about it.....Sakaguchi, Team Ninja, Eternal Sonata, Infinite Undiscovery (xcl), Star Ocean 4 (xcl), Last Remnant (tim xcl), Ace Combat....

Everything else that's worth a damn is multiplat.

There is simply no reasonable explanation for Star Ocean 4 being an Xbox only title outside of big phat wads of cash. I don't believe it simply happened. I'm not capable of it.

When Microsoft says "go ask Konami," I must say "lol so u mean no because you're not paying them anything." Has Konami done MS any favors lately? Have any insanely unprofitable franchises suddenly and inexplicably shown up exclusively on the Xbox 360 from Konami?

Well, then, I've got to say, Microsoft is just blowing hot air.

too much work to port the game over. if u played the game, u would notice how team kojima made it like literally impossible. snake using a sixaxis controller to direct REX MK.II and the countless apple products in the game. snake has a freakin ipod in gear. you gotta go back in the game, redo those scenes with the apple powerbook, give snake a 360 remote when controlling the MK.II, and take out the ipod and give him a zume. not gonna happen.

[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="Faulttt"]

Kojima Is loyal to Sony

dragonpuppy

Thats why MGS was on the PC? Thats why MGS2 was on the X-box and PC? Thats why MGS TTS was on the Gamecube? Thats why Metal Gear: Ghost Bable was on the Gameboy Color? Thats why the entire boktai series was on the GBA and Nintendo DS?

I agree that MGS4 will likely never apear on the 360, but I wouldnt say it's because Kojima is loyal.

Yeah that probably explains why MGS3 went to the Xbo--oh wait....

Sorry, I just had to do that :P

Meh just two games(MGS 3 and 4).

My point his, he puts games on platforms he think their best placed.

ANd if MGS4 is ever brought to the 360, then I guess Kojima would think it's a good idea.

I don't really care, Im sure Kojima knows what he's doing.

Yeah you can tell that Square changed their loyalties based off of cash flow. Potential sales is not enough to woo them considering that 360's weakest market is by far Japan. In fact, 360 is by far the weakest console in Japan despite having what I consider to be the best Japan-friendly game library of the three consoles.

Think about it.....Sakaguchi, Team Ninja, Eternal Sonata, Infinite Undiscovery (xcl), Star Ocean 4 (xcl), Last Remnant (tim xcl), Ace Combat....

Everything else that's worth a damn is multiplat.

There is simply no reasonable explanation for Star Ocean 4 being an Xbox only title outside of big phat wads of cash. I don't believe it simply happened. I'm not capable of it.

When Microsoft says "go ask Konami," I must say "lol so u mean no because you're not paying them anything." Has Konami done MS any favors lately? Have any insanely unprofitable franchises suddenly and inexplicably shown up exclusively on the Xbox 360 from Konami?

Well, then, I've got to say, Microsoft is just blowing hot air.

BobHipJames

Someones a bit bitter that Microsoft actually goes after games and secures them while Sony tends to sit on it's hands going LALALALLALALALA WE DON'T CAREEE to itself.

It's as if paying someone to put an exclusive on your console is bad (not that I'm admitting they did it, you're basing this off nothing.) it's perfectly fair, deal with it. Just go out, buy a 360 and get the best.

I agree that MGS4 will likely never apear on the 360, but I wouldnt say it's because Kojima is loyal.vashkey

I think he means it's because Kojima keeps his word that it won't make it the 360.

There was no huge promise that MGS2 wouldn't go to Xbox. And after it did, he said he never wanted to go through making a port again.

yeah, just like square?

oh.. my bad

yanni1

Square has never been strictly loyal to Sony.

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Kojima Is loyal to Sony

vashkey

Thats why MGS was on the PC? Thats why MGS2 was on the X-box and PC? Thats why MGS TTS was on the Gamecube? Thats why Metal Gear: Ghost Bable was on the Gameboy Color? Thats why the entire boktai series was on the GBA and Nintendo DS?

I agree that MGS4 will likely never apear on the 360, but I wouldnt say it's because Kojima is loyal.

that was konami, doing that crap while kojima was unaware they were doing that

[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="Faulttt"]

Kojima Is loyal to Sony

Faulttt

Thats why MGS was on the PC? Thats why MGS2 was on the X-box and PC? Thats why MGS TTS was on the Gamecube? Thats why Metal Gear: Ghost Bable was on the Gameboy Color? Thats why the entire boktai series was on the GBA and Nintendo DS?

I agree that MGS4 will likely never apear on the 360, but I wouldnt say it's because Kojima is loyal.

that was konami, doing that crap while kojima was unaware they were doing that

it wont come to the 360, its not possible, the game NEEDS installs, and not all 360's have hard drives, instant fail.

and dont say the 360 does not need installs, becuase thats rubbish and even developers for multiplat games said that installs are great.

Kojima Is loyal to Sony

Faulttt

Kojima is loyal to his paycheck. If his bosses want his team to rework the game for the 360, he'll do it.

It's not like the PlayStation series is the only platform the man has worked on.

[QUOTE="yanni1"]yeah, just like square?

oh.. my bad

Pariah_001

Square has never been strictly loyal to Sony.

And Konami is..?

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Kojima Is loyal to Sony

ThePlothole

Kojima is loyal to his paycheck. If his bosses want his team to rework the game for the 360, he'll do it.

It's not like the PlayStation series is the only platform the man has worked on.

kojima is not like that. he won't work on a port. he's one of those people who creates a masterpiece to others and then say he could of done a better job. its like telling him to disfigure his baby but he'll get paid if he does it.

[QUOTE="ThePlothole"][QUOTE="Faulttt"]

Kojima Is loyal to Sony

sireclaborn

Kojima is loyal to his paycheck. If his bosses want his team to rework the game for the 360, he'll do it.

It's not like the PlayStation series is the only platform the man has worked on.

kojima is not like that. he won't work on a port. he's one of those people who creates a masterpiece to others and then say he could of done a better job. its like telling him to disfigure his baby but he'll get paid if he does it.

who ported the old MGS games to xbox then :S

Who made the game cube version?

[QUOTE="ThePlothole"][QUOTE="Faulttt"]

Kojima Is loyal to Sony

sireclaborn

Kojima is loyal to his paycheck. If his bosses want his team to rework the game for the 360, he'll do it.

It's not like the PlayStation series is the only platform the man has worked on.

kojima is not like that. he won't work on a port. he's one of those people who creates a masterpiece to others and then say he could of done a better job. its like telling him to disfigure his baby but he'll get paid if he does it.

If he doesn't, then they'll simply get someone else to do it. Konami isn't some sort of charity. They're a business. If they see the 360 as being a potential source for further income, they'll pursue it.

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Kojima Is loyal to Sony

ThePlothole

Kojima is loyal to his paycheck. If his bosses want his team to rework the game for the 360, he'll do it.

It's not like the PlayStation series is the only platform the man has worked on.

kojima is not like that. he won't work on a port. he's one of those people who creates a masterpiece to others and then say he could of done a better job. its like telling him to disfigure his baby but he'll get paid if he does it.

If he doesn't, then they'll simply get someone else to do it. Konami isn't some sort of charity. They're a business. If they see the 360 as being a potential source for further income, they'll pursue it.

who wants a mgs game not made by kojima

[QUOTE="sireclaborn"][QUOTE="ThePlothole"][QUOTE="Faulttt"]

Kojima Is loyal to Sony

toxicmog

Kojima is loyal to his paycheck. If his bosses want his team to rework the game for the 360, he'll do it.

It's not like the PlayStation series is the only platform the man has worked on.

kojima is not like that. he won't work on a port. he's one of those people who creates a masterpiece to others and then say he could of done a better job. its like telling him to disfigure his baby but he'll get paid if he does it.

who ported the old MGS games to xbox then :S

Who made the game cube version?

i believe kojima made the port and then said he'd never make one again gc version i'm not sure. but i 95% sure on the first part. i think someone mentioned it on this thread

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wait look on the top of the thread about what kojima said

who wants a mgs game not made by kojima

sireclaborn

It would still be the same basic game. Just slightly reworked for a different set of hardware.

i believe kojima made the port and then said he'd never make one again gc version i'm not sure. but i 95% sure on the first part. i think someone mentioned it on this thread

sireclaborn

Because the original Xbox port wasn't as profitable as Konami had hoped. Even so, that wouldn't automatically doom a 360 version to the same fate.... console audiences can change between generations.

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who wants a mgs game not made by kojima

ThePlothole

It would still be the same basic game. Just slightly reworked for a different set of hardware.

have you played mgs4. the game takes full advantage of the ps3. it uses hdd and blu-ray something the 360 is lacking. plus kojima not working on mgs4 is like me going to burger king and having them make me a big mac. not going to work

[QUOTE="sireclaborn"]

i believe kojima made the port and then said he'd never make one again gc version i'm not sure. but i 95% sure on the first part. i think someone mentioned it on this thread

ThePlothole

Because the original Xbox port wasn't as profitable as Konami had hoped. Even so, that wouldn't automatically doom a 360 version to the same fate.... console audiences can change between generations.

theres a reason he called the 360 a dvd and the ps3 a theatre

Yeah you can tell that Square changed their loyalties based off of cash flow. Potential sales is not enough to woo them considering that 360's weakest market is by far Japan. In fact, 360 is by far the weakest console in Japan despite having what I consider to be the best Japan-friendly game library of the three consoles.

Think about it.....Sakaguchi, Team Ninja, Eternal Sonata, Infinite Undiscovery (xcl), Star Ocean 4 (xcl), Last Remnant (tim xcl), Ace Combat, lost odyssey....

Everything else that's worth a damn is multiplat.

There is simply no reasonable explanation for Star Ocean 4 being an Xbox only title outside of big phat wads of cash. I don't believe it simply happened. I'm not capable of it.

When Microsoft says "go ask Konami," I must say "lol so u mean no because you're not paying them anything." Has Konami done MS any favors lately? Have any insanely unprofitable franchises suddenly and inexplicably shown up exclusively on the Xbox 360 from Konami?

Well, then, I've got to say, Microsoft is just blowing hot air.

BobHipJames

[QUOTE="ThePlothole"][QUOTE="sireclaborn"]

who wants a mgs game not made by kojima

sireclaborn

It would still be the same basic game. Just slightly reworked for a different set of hardware.

have you played mgs4. the game takes full advantage of the ps3. it uses hdd and blu-ray something the 360 is lacking. plus kojima not working on mgs4 is like me going to burger king and having them make me a big mac. not going to work

The HDD issue can be easily reworked. Blu ray would be more difficult however they have a couple of things they could do, they could make it more than 1 disc like the old PS1 Metal Gear Solid or compress all the data, remove some cutscenes and make the cutscenes standard definition.

Mgs4: Subsistance for Xbox360 Only sounds more than possible.AgentA-Mi6

Yeah, possible... but of course downgraded to fit the 360. Seriously, you guys have been bashing this game for weeks, even with its perfect score here in GS :|

I guess fanboys would rather brag about games than play them.

I don't think MS went out of their way to acquire FFXIII, I think they just lucked out from SE's new multiplat strategy.

It's really up to Konami and it is possible, although I'd say a PC release is more likely.

[QUOTE="ThePlothole"][QUOTE="sireclaborn"]

who wants a mgs game not made by kojima

sireclaborn

It would still be the same basic game. Just slightly reworked for a different set of hardware.

have you played mgs4. the game takes full advantage of the ps3. it uses hdd and blu-ray something the 360 is lacking. plus kojima not working on mgs4 is like me going to burger king and having them make me a big mac. not going to work

Yes, I just finished the game in fact. I don't buy the need for blu-ray for a second however. If you take out the uncompressed audio (which hardly anyone can use, and isn't supported by the 360 anyways) and possibly a fair bit of redundant data (along with the installs... which are bloody annoying BTW.. another trick many developers are using to help compensate for blu-ray's slow seek times is by duplicating certain data across the disc), I think the game could fit a few DVD9s. The biggest issue would be to delete the system specific references, but that's hardly impossible either.

BTW, I have a PS3, not a 360. So it's not like I'm some lemming desperate for certain game. I'm simply pointing out that no 3rd party series can be 100% guaranteed exclusive. Not even this one.

too much work to port the game over. if u played the game, u would notice how team kojima made it like literally impossible. snake using a sixaxis controller to direct REX MK.II and the countless apple products in the game. snake has a freakin ipod in gear. you gotta go back in the game, redo those scenes with the apple powerbook, give snake a 360 remote when controlling the MK.II, and take out the ipod and give him a zume. not gonna happen.

FreshDimSum

Changing those things wouldn't take too much time and certianly wouldn't be impossible. An why exactly can't a XBOX360 version have an Apple IPOD in it.

[QUOTE="sireclaborn"][QUOTE="ThePlothole"][QUOTE="sireclaborn"]

who wants a mgs game not made by kojima

darkplayer

It would still be the same basic game. Just slightly reworked for a different set of hardware.

have you played mgs4. the game takes full advantage of the ps3. it uses hdd and blu-ray something the 360 is lacking. plus kojima not working on mgs4 is like me going to burger king and having them make me a big mac. not going to work

The HDD issue can be easily reworked. Blu ray would be more difficult however they have a couple of things they could do, they could make it more than 1 disc like the old PS1 Metal Gear Solid or compress all the data, remove some cutscenes and make the cutscenes standard definition.

in other words turn the game into crap

[QUOTE="yanni1"]

yeah, just like square?

oh.. my bad

TenP

Square was never loyal to Sony, they've been making Spinoff FF games for Nintendo, they STARTED on nintendo, and they made FFXI on 360.

They're different, MGS4 on 360 won't happen.

I honestly would'nt be too sure. MGS STARTED on nintendo. There have been spin offs and remakes (Twin Snakes, MGS2 substance) that have been released. When the time is right...do not be too surprised of a MGS4 port.

I don't think MS went out of their way to acquire FFXIII, I think they just lucked out from SE's new multiplat strategy.

It's really up to Konami and it is possible, although I'd say a PC release is more likely.

the-very-best

No...SE must have been paid, cause they put off all their other projects (FFXIII versus), just to begin porting code? If they were smart they would work their buts off to finish FFXIII and finish Versus, but their must have been a huge lump sum that Microsoft paid to SE.

[QUOTE="TenP"][QUOTE="yanni1"]

yeah, just like square?

oh.. my bad

the_dark-knight

Square was never loyal to Sony, they've been making Spinoff FF games for Nintendo, they STARTED on nintendo, and they made FFXI on 360.

They're different, MGS4 on 360 won't happen.

I honestly would'nt be too sure. MGS STARTED on nintendo. There have been spin offs and remakes (Twin Snakes, MGS2 substance) that have been released. When the time is right...do not be too surprised of a MGS4 port.

Well Metal Gear, not Metal Gear Solid, was on the NES yes. However it didn't start there. Rather the game was initially developed for the MSX, a personal computer in Japan (one which Microsoft had a hand in, ironically enough). Your other point is correct though.

Kojima Is loyal to Sony

there wont be 360 mgs4

Faulttt

If he is loyal to Sony, then why did he make games for Nintendo first. The same could be said about Square, and we all know how that turned out.