Microsoft: go ask konami about xbox mgs4

this is really getting pathetic. mgs4 will not go to 360. SE was different because they were never exclusivly on the ps brand only.

micrsoft litteraly cant come up with anything on their own. they took ff 13 because they had nothing else. only a gears sequal and a fable sequal that everyone already knew about. the new dashboard is copied from apples coverflow, and the new avatars are copies of the miis, and b.anjo kazooie just came from nintendo. microsft is loosing and thats why they keep stealing things

[QUOTE="Faulttt"]

Kojima Is loyal to Sony

there wont be 360 mgs4

WhatTheDunk

If he is loyal to Sony, then why did he make games for Nintendo first. The same could be said about Square, and we all know how that turned out.

um........cause the nintendo was the only game console out at the time......like 1990.........and square soft for the most part shifted to sony in the 90's cause nintendo wouldnt adopt the cd format...restricting development and no allowing them to create the cinematic games they wanted to such as final fantasy 7-9.

[QUOTE="Pariah_001"][QUOTE="yanni1"]yeah, just like square?

oh.. my bad

user_nat

Square has never been strictly loyal to Sony.

And Konami is..?

Where did I imply Konami was loyal.

Reading comprehension is your friend.

Please to note however that Hideo Kojima is not the kind of man to reneg. While neither Konami nor him are loyal to Sony, there's very little chance Konami's gonna go over his head and port the game.

[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="Faulttt"]

Kojima Is loyal to Sony

dragonpuppy

Thats why MGS was on the PC? Thats why MGS2 was on the X-box and PC? Thats why MGS TTS was on the Gamecube? Thats why Metal Gear: Ghost Bable was on the Gameboy Color? Thats why the entire boktai series was on the GBA and Nintendo DS?

I agree that MGS4 will likely never apear on the 360, but I wouldnt say it's because Kojima is loyal.

Yeah that probably explains why MGS3 went to the Xbo--oh wait....

Sorry, I just had to do that :P

It didn't go to the Xbox because of the awful sales of MGS2. The control system was so bad.

[QUOTE="the-very-best"]

I don't think MS went out of their way to acquire FFXIII, I think they just lucked out from SE's new multiplat strategy.

It's really up to Konami and it is possible, although I'd say a PC release is more likely.

the_dark-knight

No...SE must have been paid, cause they put off all their other projects (FFXIII versus), just to begin porting code? If they were smart they would work their buts off to finish FFXIII and finish Versus, but their must have been a huge lump sum that Microsoft paid to SE.

When yopu can provide more proof then your fanboy rants then post it .

this is really getting pathetic. mgs4 will not go to 360. SE was different because they were never exclusivly on the ps brand only.

micrsoft litteraly cant come up with anything on their own. they took ff 13 because they had nothing else. only a gears sequal and a fable sequal that everyone already knew about. the new dashboard is copied from apples coverflow, and the new avatars are copies of the miis, and b.anjo kazooie just came from nintendo. microsft is loosing and thats why they keep stealing things

-eitch8

As appose to Sony who had loads of new stuff to tell us about. I'm so excited about that fat woman game ;) Anyway, the only really exciting game announced (although not really a suprise) was God of War 3. On the subject of Microsoft copying, everyone copies each other. I could site a fair few things that Sony have copied from other companies.

did you guys not watch the conference. Sony's Jack confirmed that MGS 4 aint going nowhere.xxThyLordxx

People missed it because Sony's conference was a snoozefest...

[QUOTE="the_dark-knight"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]

I don't think MS went out of their way to acquire FFXIII, I think they just lucked out from SE's new multiplat strategy.

It's really up to Konami and it is possible, although I'd say a PC release is more likely.

AlphaGamer469

No...SE must have been paid, cause they put off all their other projects (FFXIII versus), just to begin porting code? If they were smart they would work their buts off to finish FFXIII and finish Versus, but their must have been a huge lump sum that Microsoft paid to SE.

When yopu can provide more proof then your fanboy rants then post it .

How does that make me a fanboy? Look at the facts: Microsoft paid Take 2 for exclusive content, they paid Epic to keep Gears 1 and 2 exclusive, and they also bought Bungie (which Bungie later bought themselves back). If you are so ignorant to believe SE is dumb to just (out of the blue) start making FF for M$, than you are really dumb. And don't call me a fanboy cause I make an educated guess (which is more than likely true).

[QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"][QUOTE="the_dark-knight"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]

I don't think MS went out of their way to acquire FFXIII, I think they just lucked out from SE's new multiplat strategy.

It's really up to Konami and it is possible, although I'd say a PC release is more likely.

the_dark-knight

No...SE must have been paid, cause they put off all their other projects (FFXIII versus), just to begin porting code? If they were smart they would work their buts off to finish FFXIII and finish Versus, but their must have been a huge lump sum that Microsoft paid to SE.

When yopu can provide more proof then your fanboy rants then post it .

How does that make me a fanboy? Look at the facts: Microsoft paid Take 2 for exclusive content, they paid Unreal to keep Gears 1 and 2 exclusive, and they also bought Bungie (which Bungie later bought themselves back). If you are so ignorant to believe SE is dumb to just (out of the blue) start making FF for M$, than you are really dumb. And don't call me a fanboy cause I make an educated guess (which is more than likely true).

You have no proof, just your educated guess? SE just saw the light or realized 360 was a smarter choice. Give it up until you can prove otherwise...

too much work to port the game over. if u played the game, u would notice how team kojima made it like literally impossible. snake using a sixaxis controller to direct REX MK.II and the countless apple products in the game. snake has a freakin ipod in gear. you gotta go back in the game, redo those scenes with the apple powerbook, give snake a 360 remote when controlling the MK.II, and take out the ipod and give him a zume. not gonna happen.

FreshDimSum

Thats exactly right, but most people choose to ignore this fact for some reason. This game has exclusive written all over it, more so then any other game released to date. There are countless Sony and Apple products placed in game and in the cutscenes, not to mentioned codec conversations boasting about PS3 technology. If it was ported they would have to re-do the cutscenes, codec conversations and remove the in game sony products like the DS3, PSP, IPOD etc, which would require remodelling the characters. It just seems highly unlikely. Also, after losing FF13 as exclusive and hearing Sony in the conference, I think they're gonna hold on to MGS4.

[QUOTE="ThePlothole"]

If he doesn't, then they'll simply get someone else to do it. Konami isn't some sort of charity. They're a business. If they see the 360 as being a potential source for further income, they'll pursue it.

sireclaborn

who wants a mgs game not made by kojima

Anyone so obsessed with Kojima that they wouldn't buy the game just because he didn't authorize a port has already bought the PS3 version. Konami simply has to decide whether the costs of a port would be offset by the extra sales.

Kojima Is loyal to Sony

there wont be 360 mgs4

Faulttt

[QUOTE="sireclaborn"][QUOTE="ThePlothole"]

If he doesn't, then they'll simply get someone else to do it. Konami isn't some sort of charity. They're a business. If they see the 360 as being a potential source for further income, they'll pursue it.

lowe0

who wants a mgs game not made by kojima

Anyone so obsessed with Kojima that they wouldn't buy the game just because he didn't authorize a port has already bought the PS3 version. Konami simply has to decide whether the costs of a port would be offset by the extra sales.

you need six axis motion controls to finish the game, its used in a boss fight O_o

btw why do lemmings insist that mgs is going multiplat?

[QUOTE="yanni1"]

yeah, just like square?

oh.. my bad

TenP

Square was never loyal to Sony, they've been making Spinoff FF games for Nintendo, they STARTED on nintendo, and they made FFXI on 360.

They're different, MGS4 on 360 won't happen.

Just like MGS 2 was on PC?

Kojima Is loyal to Sony

there wont be 360 mgs4

Faulttt

Definitely think it will stay PS3 only for awhile. MGS2 was a shot(i think) to see how it would sell on the Xbox platform but was overshadowed quickly by(at the time exclusive) Splinter Cell. Splinter Cell did very well on Microsoft's platform and I'm sure Konami knew this and also knew MGS was bigger and did better on the PS brand systems so no MGS3 on Xbox. I could be wrong but that would be my guess as to why they gave up on any future MGS on the Xbox. This is a new generation however so I guess anything can happen, but it does seem like they did everything they could to fit everything anti-microsoft into the game(not to mention the dics swap comment)...lol.

this is really getting pathetic. mgs4 will not go to 360. SE was different because they were never exclusivly on the ps brand only.

-eitch8

Konami has developed games for the MSX, MSX2, Amiga, NES, PC Engine, Genesis, Gameboy, SNES, Saturn, N64, Gameboy Advance, 3DO, Dreamcast, Gamecube, Xbox, DS, 360, Wii, and PC. In fact it was the MSX2, not the Playstation, where the Metal Gear series truly began.

Konami is no more exclusive to Sony than SquareEnix. If anything, they have less "loyalty" with the company.

Stop bumping threads about rumors from a year and a half ago.

Oh wait, this was created today :|

[QUOTE="Faulttt"]

Kojima Is loyal to Sony

there wont be 360 mgs4

yanni1

yeah, just like square?

oh.. my bad

Not like Square. Square made a lot of games for Nintendo consoles. It wasn't to suprising to see FFXIII on the 360.

Lemmings are getting real sad around here lol. I mean if yall hate Sony so much why you wanting its games so bad, dang get a ps3 for god sake lol. Oh never mind the MS conference didn't show much to yall. Multiplat after multiplate lol. Maybe you lemmings will get some games sometime. GreyFoXX4

First of all it's not Sony's games, they are third party. Plus Lems got FF didn't they? Lems now have are sights on MGS4.

[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"]Lemmings are getting real sad around here lol. I mean if yall hate Sony so much why you wanting its games so bad, dang get a ps3 for god sake lol. Oh never mind the MS conference didn't show much to yall. Multiplat after multiplate lol. Maybe you lemmings will get some games sometime. VirtuaCast

First of all it's not Sony's games, they are third party. Plus Lems got FF didn't they? Lems now have are sights on MGS4.

First of all fanboys(Lems) didn't get FF XIII Microsoft did. If you saw Sqaure's last financial report that was announced you would have saw the bad state the company is in. Konami is different and Kojima is pretty much done with MGS4 and looking forward to new projects.

Also DLC is becoming the norm now so there probably won't be a substance/subsistence since DLC can take care of that for the PS3.

[QUOTE="yanni1"]

yeah, just like square?

oh.. my bad

TenP

Square was never loyal to Sony, they've been making Spinoff FF games for Nintendo, they STARTED on nintendo, and they made FFXI on 360.

They're different, MGS4 on 360 won't happen.

Kojima started on the MSX, and has made games for all three companies. Clearly he's not loyal either.

[QUOTE="sireclaborn"][QUOTE="ThePlothole"]

If he doesn't, then they'll simply get someone else to do it. Konami isn't some sort of charity. They're a business. If they see the 360 as being a potential source for further income, they'll pursue it.

lowe0

who wants a mgs game not made by kojima

Anyone so obsessed with Kojima that they wouldn't buy the game just because he didn't authorize a port has already bought the PS3 version. Konami simply has to decide whether the costs of a port would be offset by the extra sales.

you need six axis motion controls to finish the game, its used in a boss fight O_o

Wasdie

All you do is yank the controller. That hardly puts the 6DOF sensor to use.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

you need six axis motion controls to finish the game, its used in a boss fight O_o

ThePlothole

All you do is yank the controller. That hardly puts the 6DOF sensor to use.

MGS4 is impossible on the 360, the guy from SE already mentioned how they will not use the Six Axis in FF13 so 360 owners don't feel left out. You need Six Axis to beat one of the bosses in MGS4!

JK

I would expect Sony to have made an exclusivity contract or something but who knows.

[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"]Lemmings are getting real sad around here lol. I mean if yall hate Sony so much why you wanting its games so bad, dang get a ps3 for god sake lol. Oh never mind the MS conference didn't show much to yall. Multiplat after multiplate lol. Maybe you lemmings will get some games sometime. VirtuaCast

First of all it's not Sony's games, they are third party. Plus Lems got FF didn't they? Lems now have are sights on MGS4.

its really starting to get sad now. really i glad im not a lem. it seems as if the only things going for the 360 is getting sony's 3rd party games. i think im staring to get the routine here bash sony 1st party because there no way the 360 can get it but beg for sony 3rd party games. i guess the 360 games aren't good enough

[QUOTE="ThePlothole"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

you need six axis motion controls to finish the game, its used in a boss fight O_o

thrones

All you do is yank the controller. That hardly puts the 6DOF sensor to use.

I never even bothered to use the trash cans, so I didn't experience that function. Still I highly doubt that it used the sensor in such a way that it would be difficult to substitute.

[QUOTE="VirtuaCast"]

[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"]Lemmings are getting real sad around here lol. I mean if yall hate Sony so much why you wanting its games so bad, dang get a ps3 for god sake lol. Oh never mind the MS conference didn't show much to yall. Multiplat after multiplate lol. Maybe you lemmings will get some games sometime. Flamestos

First of all it's not Sony's games, they are third party. Plus Lems got FF didn't they? Lems now have are sights on MGS4.

First of all fanboys(Lems) didn't get FF XIII Microsoft did. If you saw Sqaure's last financial report that was announced you would have saw the bad state the company is in. Konami is different and Kojima is pretty much done with MGS4 and looking forward to new projects.

Also DLC is becoming the norm now so there probably won't be a substance/subsistence since DLC can take care of that for the PS3.

What!? Being a fan of Microsoft (Lems) get the game. You can tell your self (that they didn't) what ever makes you feel better. Konami is in the business of making money and if they want reach a larger audience they will.

[QUOTE="Flamestos"][QUOTE="VirtuaCast"]

[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"]Lemmings are getting real sad around here lol. I mean if yall hate Sony so much why you wanting its games so bad, dang get a ps3 for god sake lol. Oh never mind the MS conference didn't show much to yall. Multiplat after multiplate lol. Maybe you lemmings will get some games sometime. VirtuaCast

First of all it's not Sony's games, they are third party. Plus Lems got FF didn't they? Lems now have are sights on MGS4.

First of all fanboys(Lems) didn't get FF XIII Microsoft did. If you saw Sqaure's last financial report that was announced you would have saw the bad state the company is in. Konami is different and Kojima is pretty much done with MGS4 and looking forward to new projects.

Also DLC is becoming the norm now so there probably won't be a substance/subsistence since DLC can take care of that for the PS3.

What!? Being a fan of Microsoft (Lems) get the game. You can tell your self (that they didn't) what ever makes you feel better. Konami is in the business of making money and if they want reach a larger audience they will.

X-Box 360 fans get the game, I just didn't like the way you said it because it was in a purely fanboy regard which is why I said that. Every company likes money and wants to reach the largest amount of gamers they can so yeah of course Konami does but you don't see every 360 3rd party game on the PS3 do you... no.

Kojima & Konami have said no and as of right now thats what it is.

Konami already making tons of money with MGS4 on PS3 alone........ Why would they wasting their & money time port this game to 360 ? 360 version never guarantee to sold more than PS3 version......Foxhound_spy

Ay, you never know...DMC 4 anyone? And we'll see how FF sells on both systems.

[QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"][QUOTE="the_dark-knight"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]

I don't think MS went out of their way to acquire FFXIII, I think they just lucked out from SE's new multiplat strategy.

It's really up to Konami and it is possible, although I'd say a PC release is more likely.

the_dark-knight

No...SE must have been paid, cause they put off all their other projects (FFXIII versus), just to begin porting code? If they were smart they would work their buts off to finish FFXIII and finish Versus, but their must have been a huge lump sum that Microsoft paid to SE.

When yopu can provide more proof then your fanboy rants then post it .

How does that make me a fanboy? Look at the facts: Microsoft paid Take 2 for exclusive content, they paid Epic to keep Gears 1 and 2 exclusive, and they also bought Bungie (which Bungie later bought themselves back). If you are so ignorant to believe SE is dumb to just (out of the blue) start making FF for M$, than you are really dumb. And don't call me a fanboy cause I make an educated guess (which is more than likely true).

There may have been money involved, there may not have been. The main reason though that SE is putting Final Fantasy XIII on 360 is because SE wants to penetrate the Western and European Markets. Two places where 360 has the larger userbase.

The game is constantly self referential, so they'll have to re-record several large areas of VO and remove alot of things.thrones

[QUOTE="thrones"]The game is constantly self referential, so they'll have to re-record several large areas of VO and remove alot of things.lowe0

Sony cellphones

Ipod

All the computers are Mac

Snake uses a Dualshock 3 to control MarkII

Several easter eggs that I do not want to spoil, if you played the original MGS repeat the same strategy for Mantis and you'll get one.

I might be missing a few but it's nothing major that couldn't be redone.

too much work to port the game over. if u played the game, u would notice how team kojima made it like literally impossible. snake using a sixaxis controller to direct REX MK.II and the countless apple products in the game. snake has a freakin ipod in gear. you gotta go back in the game, redo those scenes with the apple powerbook, give snake a 360 remote when controlling the MK.II, and take out the ipod and give him a zume. not gonna happen.

FreshDimSum

yea and Twin Snakes was literally impossible.

ah Let Sony have one exclusive so that cows can put their foot in their mouth. Right now they dont have much.

[QUOTE="Faulttt"]

Kojima Is loyal to Sony

vashkey

Thats why MGS was on the PC? Thats why MGS2 was on the X-box and PC? Thats why MGS TTS was on the Gamecube? Thats why Metal Gear: Ghost Bable was on the Gameboy Color? Thats why the entire boktai series was on the GBA and Nintendo DS?

I agree that MGS4 will likely never apear on the 360, but I wouldnt say it's because Kojima is loyal.

There was alot more than that, dreamcast, mobile, and i believe there were more along with what you mentioned.

Kojima Is loyal to Sony

there wont be 360 mgs4

Faulttt

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="thrones"]The game is constantly self referential, so they'll have to re-record several large areas of VO and remove alot of things.Mongo-Boss

Sony cellphones

Ipod

All the computers are Mac

Snake uses a Dualshock 3 to control MarkII

Several easter eggs that I do not want to spoil, if you played the original MGS repeat the same strategy for Mantis and you'll get one.

I might be missing a few but it's nothing major that couldn't be redone.

Only the Sony stuff would be a real issue, not the apple stuff. I mean come on... Apple lets you install Windows on their computers now, and the iPod has come bundled with PC software for years.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="thrones"]The game is constantly self referential, so they'll have to re-record several large areas of VO and remove alot of things.Mongo-Boss

Sony cellphones

Ipod

All the computers are Mac

Snake uses a Dualshock 3 to control MarkII

Several easter eggs that I do not want to spoil, if you played the original MGS repeat the same strategy for Mantis and you'll get one.

I might be missing a few but it's nothing major that couldn't be redone.

[QUOTE="Mongo-Boss"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="thrones"]The game is constantly self referential, so they'll have to re-record several large areas of VO and remove alot of things.ThePlothole

Sony cellphones

Ipod

All the computers are Mac

Snake uses a Dualshock 3 to control MarkII

Several easter eggs that I do not want to spoil, if you played the original MGS repeat the same strategy for Mantis and you'll get one.

I might be missing a few but it's nothing major that couldn't be redone.

Only the Sony stuff would be a real issue, not the apple stuff. I mean come on... Apple lets you install Windows on their computers now, and the iPod has come bundled with PC software for years.

You would also have to add the cost for porting since I believe it runs on an engine built from the ground up on the PS3, MGS4 will have big development costs even for porting, I assume that the reason they had so many sponsors was to pay for a part of the costs. Of course what do I know only Konami knows all the facts.

[QUOTE="Faulttt"]

Kojima Is loyal to Sony

there wont be 360 mgs4

darkslider99

Kojima had them on the MSX, he cursed the Nintendo port and thats why he never brought part 2 to the Nintendo. He went to the Playstation brand because they offered him a CD drive so he could have cutscenes and have no limitations.

He tried MGS2 and Twin Snakes for other platforms, they bombed, so he stuck with what works.

Mgs4: Subsistance for Xbox360 Only sounds more than possible.AgentA-Mi6

Yup . They will call it something else tho...