Microsoft: Hard-core Will Be First To Buy Kinect

This is truly some :lol: stuff though I'm soft on the outside with a hard core inside and I'll be buying Kinect. :P

Oh and if old... sue me. 8)

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cnet has a laughable quote from Microsoft's worldwide product marketing manager, Ryan Moore, begging insisting that hard core gamers will be the first to purchase Kinect.

Quote:"I think we know that hard-core gamers will be the first to go out and buy it, as they are with any product," Moore told CVG. "So we know we have to have a wide range of experiences, from things like [an] animals game to games that are more geared towards the core."Could someone from Microsoft please name one of those games geared toward the core? I haven't seen one announced.

y would i want kinect when i already have kinect on my ps3 its just lame

First to buy it so they can resell it on ebay to get more money to buy other games...yep.

I think poor poor MS has lost it completly :? Time to jump ship while you still can guys!

Of course. That's why Justin Bieber is publicly endorsing it, and you know how the hardcore crowd loves Justin Bieber.:D

Hardcore dance enthusiasts?IronBass

I... I don't really care.

Microsoft will be launching the Kinect soon. But I already have a Wii, I have as much motion controls as I need.

And Sony? Another rip-off of the wiimote? Seriously?

I won't be buying Kinect, simple as that.

Actually, I found a funny comic involving KInect.

WARNING!-Some mature language!

www.vgcats.com/comics/

Of course the hardcore will. Casuals dont buy things till its popular and normal gamers wait on support/price drops. They also went out and bought the 360 slim in droves despite already having 360s.

Ill be waiting on my Kinect purchase. Frankly, i dont see it selling well at all and expect MS to significantly drop the price within the first year. We also dont have a good idea of the type of support it'll recieve yet. Best thing to do now is wait without crossing it off.

Ok it is official: Microsoft doesn't know **** about their consumers

Ok it is official: Microsoft doesn't know **** about their consumers

DoomZaW

Nice one.

So.. New Microsoft = Old Sony and New Sony = Old Microsoft. aaronmullan

Also I wish people would stop calling that Mizuguchi game "Children" of Eden...

Man, MS is acting like sony circa 2006-07

It's funny how confident they are in this thing even after a horrible E3 showing. Absolutely nothing they showed was in the interest of the "hard-core" gamer.

It's funny how confident they are in this thing even after a horrible E3 showing. Absolutely nothing they showed was in the interest of the "hard-core" gamer.

Wasdie

It's funny how confident they are in this thing even after a horrible E3 showing. Absolutely nothing they showed was in the interest of the "hard-core" gamer.

Wasdie

well except for Child of Eden

and even that doesn't actually require a motion controller, it's just an add-on

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

It's funny how confident they are in this thing even after a horrible E3 showing. Absolutely nothing they showed was in the interest of the "hard-core" gamer.

Birdy09

You mean the second sentence he said?

Hardcore gamers frown upon dance, animals and three dimensional motion controls. All three put together - well, you can guess.

Wii Sports is more 'hardcore' than this, at least with Wii Sports you can actually lose.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

It's funny how confident they are in this thing even after a horrible E3 showing. Absolutely nothing they showed was in the interest of the "hard-core" gamer.

Birdy09

Outside of Children of Eden they didn't show anything that was near "must-have" for anybody who wants a bit more deep gaming experiance than petting a kitty or attempting to dance.

Kinect has all sorts of great things going for it, a lot of unrealized potential. I like the idea of no controller interfaces (very futuristic) but no developer seems to be using it. So far I'm seeing a glorified PS2 EyeToy.

Kinect is great but without any sorts of controllers, it's going to be very hard to make any deep experiances in gaming, you just don't have enough input into the computer to pull off any complicated tasks.

[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

It's funny how confident they are in this thing even after a horrible E3 showing. Absolutely nothing they showed was in the interest of the "hard-core" gamer.

N30F3N1X

You mean the second sentence he said?

Hardcore gamers frown upon dance, animals and three dimensional motion controls. All three put together - well, you can guess.

[QUOTE="aaronmullan"]So.. New Microsoft = Old Sony and New Sony = Old Microsoft. shinrabanshou

Also I wish people would stop calling that Mizuguchi game "Children" of Eden...

Sure. And that's why they show predominantly core games for the Kinect at E3. Uh huh.

But I'm a hardcore gamer to say the least, over 500 games played, and yet... I find it a breath of fresh air? I wouldnt mix "Hardcore" with Agressive Teen Chavs that like mainstream killing games, a definite mix up of these 2 definitions.Birdy09

If you find patting an animal or seeing yourself dance on the screen with some wannabe funky shiny avatar a fresh breath of air, you need a fresh breath of air for real :D

[QUOTE="Birdy09"] But I'm a hardcore gamer to say the least, over 500 games played, and yet... I find it a breath of fresh air? I wouldnt mix "Hardcore" with Agressive Teen Chavs that like mainstream killing games, a definite mix up of these 2 definitions.N30F3N1X

If you find patting an animal or seeing yourself dance on the screen with some wannabe funky shiny avatar a fresh breath of air, you need a fresh breath of air for real :D

I heard in real-life you can actually feel the animals! :o

So.. New Microsoft = Old Sony and New Sony = Old Microsoft. aaronmullan

Yeah, I've been saying that here and there, for awhile now. It is sort of how Sony lost control of the console war after the ps2 era. They took the popularity of the product name for granted and figured everybody was going to spend $600 on a new console. I'm glad Sony is back in a similar state as they were in the ps1 days. Great game after great game.

Microsoft is doing the same thing in this instant. The original xbox was known as the "hardcore" machine. They gained popularity, but over the last 3 or 4 years, they have been venturing away from what got them their in the first place. Because of other factors outside of the game industry, the current gen will be longer than expected. So in place of a new console, MS decide to release an add-on that is half the price of a new console.

[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]

[QUOTE="Birdy09"] But I'm a hardcore gamer to say the least, over 500 games played, and yet... I find it a breath of fresh air? I wouldnt mix "Hardcore" with Agressive Teen Chavs that like mainstream killing games, a definite mix up of these 2 definitions.Birdy09

If you find patting an animal or seeing yourself dance on the screen with some wannabe funky shiny avatar a fresh breath of air, you need a fresh breath of air for real :D

Which I would both agree and disagree with, imo, there's a distinction but it's shades of grey rather than black and white. Niche core, mainstream core, core with casual appeal, casual with core appeal, casual, shovelware, Ubisoft Breathing Game. Categorizing is part of human nature. Although it's becoming more difficult to delineate between them though I guess.

[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]

If you find patting an animal or seeing yourself dance on the screen with some wannabe funky shiny avatar a fresh breath of air, you need a fresh breath of air for real :D

shinrabanshou

Which I would both agree and disagree with, imo, there's a distinction but it's shades of grey rather than black and white. Niche core, mainstream core, core with casual appeal, casual with core appeal, casual, shovelware, Ubisoft Breathing Game. Categorizing is part of human nature. Although it's becoming more difficult to delineate between them though I guess.

Well, the casuals won't go for it because of price, and the hardcore because of lack of games.

Microsoft screwed this up bad. :P

That is a true statement. Day 1 sales are always hardcore gamers. Heck most casuals/non gamersdon't even know the thing exsists on day 1.

[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]

If you find patting an animal or seeing yourself dance on the screen with some wannabe funky shiny avatar a fresh breath of air, you need a fresh breath of air for real :D

shinrabanshou

Which I would both agree and disagree with, imo, there's a distinction but it's shades of grey rather than black and white. Niche core, mainstream core, core with casual appeal, casual with core appeal, casual, shovelware, Ubisoft Breathing Game. Categorizing is part of human nature. Although it's becoming more difficult to delineate between them though I guess.

j/k I get what your saying. :P

Again he is correct. Hardcores will buy it first. Just not the one's talking on this site right now. I, for one, will buy one on day one. The reason why is because I havea 5 year old. He will love it. I'm definatly a hardcore gamer but I would buy it for my kids.

Ohh my...

j/k I get what your saying. :P

SecretPolice

Child of Eden is the only thing interesting and that could be played with either a normal controller or on PS3 with Move support (I think)

99% of games are casual, today. I don't know if "hardcore" is a term adopted to separate gamers that were playing before it was "normal" or not, but the fact that videogames are now advertised just as much as other medias proves that its no longer a niche hobby. Other than films like Avatar, every "big" game release is advertised more than most other products throughout stores like best buy. The biggest casual games of today are ones like Red Dead Redemption and Gran Theft Auto.

Doubt it but you could imagine what it would be like...right...right.

well in the guys defense you have not seen how you can use your hands to break skittles neckyet.

I wont be getting it.

[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

[QUOTE="Birdy09"] Yea I should be thinking a RTS back from the 1990's with capabilities of 2004 should be a worthwhile game to hype I guess :P What I saw? Kinetimals would be great for my little cousin, or young people in general. Kinect Fitness - Better than a boring video right, and it seems alot more capable than wii fit (minus weight scale) Dancing - Not my thing, but you know, outside of system wars, dancing is a very very big part of culture *shocker*, while I dont like dancing, I very much know that this is nothing but a good thing. Video Games isnt just killing, its INTERACTIVE MEDIA SOFTWARE, the potential for pretty much everything is much larger than stand alone music, movies ... and yet, all the angsty people here that only care about the same RtS/shooter/racer/action have the nerve to laugh at anything else when your just as lame?Birdy09

Which I would both agree and disagree with, imo, there's a distinction but it's shades of grey rather than black and white. Niche core, mainstream core, core with casual appeal, casual with core appeal, casual, shovelware, Ubisoft Breathing Game. Categorizing is part of human nature. Although it's becoming more difficult to delineate between them though I guess.

pretty sure you don't have to buy a $150 device on top of the platform to play Halo, or Mario, or World of Warcraft, and i'm pretty sure those games appeal to a very wide audience, instead of just a single niche

i don't really see how extremely casual gaming is any less harmful to the industry than extremely hardcore gaming, both are susceptible to pandering and shovelware