Microsoft isn't going casual next-gen or is it?

Why do people keep saying that it is? Because of Kinect?

Microsoft has great IPs like Gears of War, Forza, Alan Wake and Halo. Are they going to end or are they going casual?

Playstation has the PS Move, yet people don't say it's going casual. Next year, there will be a better competition of exclusives (with the new alan wake and halo 4) and playstation has (the last of us and probably something will be announced or maybe i'm forgetting something)

I think Microsoft can handle both audiences, the casual and the core. The playstation will never lead like they did with the PS2, never again. There is a bunch of core gamers that play on the 360 and like it more than the Playstation (me included).

So what do you have to say? And yes I'm a Xbox fanboy, deal with it.

looking at their kinect push, how many core IP's they have stuffed in the background and never used nowadays and the fact some of those core franchises listed actually have had kinect integrated makes me think otherwise.

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Why do people keep saying that it is? Because of Kinect?

Microsoft has great IPs like Gears of War, Forza, Alan Wake and Halo. Are they going to end or are they going casual?

tjricardo089

fact of the matter is those IP's are the only ones microsoft are giving to core gamers.

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Tikeio

GTFO

Batman is better on the Xbox. Same for shooters. Same for JPRGs. Same for The Elder mothafu*kin' Scrolls: Skyrim.

Oh and ActionRemix the only thing I'm seeing with that graphic is that Microsoft started like crap but it's all been profit lately. But yeah, Microsoft is with -6 billions of debt, but they're making their way up you see. From 500M they went to 1B

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tjricardo089

GTFO

Batman is better on the Xbox. Same for shooters. Same for JPRGs. Same for The Elder mothafu*kin' Scrolls: Skyrim.

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tjricardo089

GTFO

Batman is better on the Xbox. Same for shooters. Same for JPRGs. Same for The Elder mothafu*kin' Scrolls: Skyrim.

best bit is you act like a hermit one minute and then you come out with this.

you baffle me.

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razgriz_101

GTFO

Batman is better on the Xbox. Same for shooters. Same for JPRGs. Same for The Elder mothafu*kin' Scrolls: Skyrim.

best bit is you act like a hermit one minute and then you come out with this.

you baffle me.

I changed my mind, u mad?

Why do people keep saying that it is? Because of Kinect?

Microsoft has great IPs like Gears of War, Forza, Alan Wake and Halo. Are they going to end or are they going casual?

Playstation has the PS Move, yet people don't say it's going casual. Next year, there will be a better competition of exclusives (with the new alan wake and halo 4) and playstation has (the last of us and probably something will be announced or maybe i'm forgetting something)

I think Microsoft can handle both audiences, the casual and the core. The playstation will never lead like they did with the PS2, never again. There is a bunch of core gamers that play on the 360 and like it more than the Playstation (me included).

So what do you have to say? And yes I'm a Xbox fanboy, deal with it.

tjricardo089

i own an xbox and looking very closely at not supporting the next xbox... those ips u listed are the ONLY ones MS has cultured. They have not had something fresh in years.

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GTFO

Batman is better on the Xbox. Same for shooters. Same for JPRGs. Same for The Elder mothafu*kin' Scrolls: Skyrim.

tjricardo089

best bit is you act like a hermit one minute and then you come out with this.

you baffle me.

I changed my mind, u mad?

not really, just makes me take you even less seriously.

M$ themselves have already went casual. The third parties are still bring their multiplats that do very well, but M$ themselves just does causal stuff. Look at all the new features they have added to Live, all of those increase casual appeal

To me, ever since, that fall update(November 19th 2008) where I got stuck with those stupid Avatars, just like the Wii, was the day Microsoft went casual.
Full time PC gamer ever since...

Ok, the fact that my 5th 360 died on me didn't help either, but still...

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best bit is you act like a hermit one minute and then you come out with this.

you baffle me.

razgriz_101

I changed my mind, u mad?

not really, just makes me take you even less seriously.

Sorry, I left my 'I couldn't give two fuc*s at home'

And yes I'm a Douche, deal with it.

tjricardo089

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I changed my mind, u mad?

tjricardo089

not really, just makes me take you even less seriously.

Sorry, I left my 'I couldn't give two fuc*s at home'

cool story now back to the creche or the classroom to brush up on your despicable vocabulary my dear boy.

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tjricardo089

GTFO

Batman is better on the Xbox. Same for shooters. Same for JPRGs. Same for The Elder mothafu*kin' Scrolls: Skyrim.

Oh and ActionRemix the only thing I'm seeing with that graphic is that Microsoft started like crap but it's all been profit lately. But yeah, Microsoft is with -6 billions of debt, but they're making their way up you see. From 500M they went to 1B

looking at their kinect push, how many core IP's they have stuffed in the background and never used nowadays and the fact some of those core franchises listed actually have had kinect integrated makes me think otherwise.

razgriz_101

Not only that, but have you seen the newest ads? It is almost to the point where the Kinect title is taking center stage over the xbox one.

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I changed my mind, u mad?

tjricardo089

not really, just makes me take you even less seriously.

Sorry, I left my 'I couldn't give two fuc*s at home'

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tjricardo089

GTFO

Batman is better on the Xbox. Same for shooters. Same for JPRGs. Same for The Elder mothafu*kin' Scrolls: Skyrim.

Oh and ActionRemix the only thing I'm seeing with that graphic is that Microsoft started like crap but it's all been profit lately. But yeah, Microsoft is with -6 billions of debt, but they're making their way up you see. From 500M they went to 1B

Lol @ assuming I only own a PS3 and not a 360, Wii or PC as well. :lol:

Oh and ActionRemix the only thing I'm seeing with that graphic is that Microsoft started like crap but it's all been profit lately. But yeah, Microsoft is with -6 billions of debt, but they're making their way up you see. From 500M they went to 1Btjricardo089

They aren't going casual, they are just expanding their market potential.ShadowDeathX

This is what I think it's happening. I just bought a Xbox because I was so sick of Playstation, PSN and everything else. So you telling me that Xbox is going casual is a hard thing to swallow.

They'll appeal to both, but the casuals will be a huge market for them. This generation they focussed more on multiplats over exclusives, because it worked. The casual market works for them as well.

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]They aren't going casual, they are just expanding their market potential.tjricardo089

This is what I think it's happening. I just bought a Xbox because I was so sick of Playstation, PSN and everything else. So you telling me that Xbox is going casual is a hard thing to swallow.

Considering their past 2 holiday seasons have been heavily Kinect focused, and the new Dashboard set out and on top of that their main weight of advertisements are focused on the Kinect peripheral and marketing as such makes me think otherwise to be brutally honest.

Also their core game exclusives have dropped considerably since Kinect was announced with a focus on more crud like Kinect Sports and Gunstringer.

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]They aren't going casual, they are just expanding their market potential.tjricardo089

This is what I think it's happening. I just bought a Xbox because I was so sick of Playstation, PSN and everything else. So you telling me that Xbox is going casual is a hard thing to swallow.

You made a statement and backed it up with questions. Really?

I'm seeing Xbox betting on movies and more acessible dashboard, but that is because consoles are becoming useful in other ways than just gaming. That isn't casual.

You made a statement and backed it up with questions. Really?

SNESMaster420

Yes, I am a retarded boy.

Funny you bring op Move...it's not casual since it has buttons! Microsoft however, has already gone casual.
Kinect, all this random multimedia junk littering XBL, acquiring Rare and turning them into Kinect-only devs, appeasing to small children.
Even Epic Games is like, F it...we completed that junk called Gears of Bore, now on to some new IP that's probably going to be multiplat.
Bungie leaving, Rare massacred, the new Kinect focus, announcing multimedia features/gimmicks at a f***ing GAMES conference (E3).

Come on bro. Microsoft has gone casual...they freaking announced/hyped a SEARCH BAR at a GAMES conference. It's over.

Yes they are.

And you're fooling yourself if you think otherwise.

But I just heard that my parents bought me a Xbox for Christmas.. I can't tell them :' You go back on that store and give me a PS3 '. Plus I already owned a PS3, and I think that the Xbox will make me feel more confortamble with gaming, however I want to play great core games and if Xbox is stopping to support them then I have no choice than going with the PS3

Yes they are.

And you're fooling yourself if you think otherwise.

theuncharted34

But I just heard that my parents bought me a Xbox for Christmas.. I can't tell them :' You go back on that store and give me a PS3 '. Plus I already owned a PS3, and I think that the Xbox will make me feel more confortamble with gaming, however I want to play great core games and if Xbox is stopping to support them then I have no choice than going with the PS3

tjricardo089

But I just heard that my parents bought me a Xbox for Christmas.. I can't tell them :' You go back on that store and give me a PS3 '. Plus I already owned a PS3, and I think that the Xbox will make me feel more confortamble with gaming, however I want to play great core games and if Xbox is stopping to support them then I have no choice than going with the PS3

tjricardo089

The 360 actually has a fantastic backlog of games. Don't worry about it. It was only until this year that MS basically said "Screw it."

I'm merely talking about next gen when I say MS will go completely casual and milk everything for all it's worth.

Yes, but I want to be able to play this gen games on the next gen console if I feel like to. And I don't think that PS4 will run 360 games :P

But I just heard that my parents bought me a Xbox for Christmas.. I can't tell them :' You go back on that store and give me a PS3 '.tjricardo089

Yes, but I want to be able to play this gen games on the next gen console if I feel like to. And I don't think that PS4 will run 360 games :P

tjricardo089

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But I just heard that my parents bought me a Xbox for Christmas.. I can't tell them :' You go back on that store and give me a PS3 '.DrTrafalgarLaw

I have a gaming PC. But I wanted to leave the PC and buy a console (I'm so gonna be flamed). So they bought me the 360. And dude, take a chill pill.. I don't even work how the hell am I suppose to buy a console with my own money?

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MonsieurX

GTFO

Batman is better on the Xbox. Same for shooters. Same for JPRGs. Same for The Elder mothafu*kin' Scrolls: Skyrim.

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Why do people keep saying that it is? Because of Kinect?

Microsoft has great IPs like Gears of War, Forza, Alan Wake and Halo. Are they going to end or are they going casual?

lawlessx

fact of the matter is those IP's are the only ones microsoft are giving to core gamers.

Also, unless they go the Activision route of releasing one of each every year, MS will only have about one or two exclusives a year while Sony uses several of theirs throughout a year and even Nintendo puts out more exclusives then that in a single year (good for them considering their lack of multiplats I guess).

This is why: Prolonged loss leading doesn't work. The next Xbox will be underpowered because the hardcore are not worth the money. They'll still make Halo, of course, but Microsoft's focus is going to be the casual motion control audience.ActionRemix

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Yes, but I want to be able to play this gen games on the next gen console if I feel like to. And I don't think that PS4 will run 360 games :P

PurpleMan5000

The have already gone causal. Look at the amount of Kinect trash that has come out this year compared to core games