Microsoft need some new IPs

I think microsoft are starting to coast through this generation. They've sold more units than last gen, so they're happy, their console has beat out Sony - probably what they consider their biggest competitor - and they've made a decent bundle off Halo 3, their lottery ticket that always wins. Plus, they've found a little brother for Halo in the form of Gears of War, which has also done pretty well for itself in raking in the sales.

In fact, it would appear that they've settled into a strategy of releasing Gears of War and Halo games in cycles. Getting bored of Gears of War 2? Dont worry, Halo Reach is out next year. When you're done with that, Gears of War 3 will probably be around the corner.

And for me, that just doesn't cut it. They've been blessed with the best third party support you can ask for, but it always sucks to see the company which MAKES your system pull back and offer limited support in the form of their own games. Having sold off most of their third party studios, they're at least honest in admitting that they pretty much have no interest in making first party titles. Instead, their business model seems to be second party games made by other developers under the microsoft umbrella, or securing exclusivity for the PC and 360 from third party developers like EPIC.

Which basically means Gears of War, Forza and Halo - right? That and a RARE game released every 10 years only to score 'good but not great' reviews. That just isn't enough. They need new IPs, new ideas, new games. I'm not a big Gears fan, though Halo is amazing, but it only comes about once every two or three years. There's no steady supply of new, interesting games coming out of Microsoft's studios, which is sad for a company supposedly passionate about gaming.

Indeed, Alan Wake will be their first new IP exclusive.

Microsoft seems to be happy with pc/360 games, since they're technically exclusive to Microsoft, which is good enough for them. They also know that mutliplats sell good on the 360.

But yeah they need IP's. They should think about the consumers too.

Why?? It has Halo, everything its fans seem to need to be happy with it.

I'm sure with all the milking they've done this gen:P. They are going to land some good exclusives soon.

Yeah and it was a stupid move to cancel Kameo 2

Indeed, Alan Wake will be their first new IP exclusive.

RadecSupreme

Indeed, Alan Wake will be their first new IP exclusive.

RadecSupreme

/faceplam

someone needs to learn what exclusive means.

Yeh, they do. First they need to share some Alan Wake with Pc gamers though.AAllxxjjnn

MS needs some development talent. That why Sony s killing them right now in exclusive quality games and new IPs. All the 360 has is Halo,Gears and Forza, its pretty sad really.djsifer01

MS needs some development talent. That why Sony s killing them right now in exclusive quality games and new IPs. All the 360 has is Halo,Gears and Forza, its pretty sad really.djsifer01

I totally agree. They started off great with Gears of War and even Viva Pinata, but they really fizzled out after that. I've said this before: It's ironic. MS has the money this gen to mess around with new IP's, test new franchises to crowds, etc, but they do no such thing. It is actually Sony, who in last place shouldnt be risking their demographic and who should have been relying on older franchises from their more successful last generation console who is making fresh new IPs. Uncharted, inFamous, Resistance, LittleBigPlanet, etc. are all great new franchises. Their older franchise games are finally rolling out in the name of GT5 and God of War 3.

/faceplam

someone needs to learn what exclusive means.

warmaster670

I totally agree. They started off great with Gears of War and even Viva Pinata, but they really fizzled out after that. I've said this before: It's ironic. MS has the money this gen to mess around with new IP's, test new franchises to crowds, etc, but they do no such thing. It is actually Sony, who in last place shouldnt be risking their demographic and who should have been relying on older franchises from their more successful last generation console who is making fresh new IPs. Uncharted, inFamous, Resistance, LittleBigPlanet, etc. are all great new franchises. Their older franchise games are finally rolling out in the name of GT5 and God of War 3.

Alpha-Male22

They NEED to make money this gen, otherwise their shareholders are going to bail. They lost too much money on the original xbox to finish up at a loss with the 360 as well. While they're a giant, rich as heck corporation, we need to remember that the company is split into independent sub-companies with their own budgets. Microsoft's gaming division has a budget which it must stick to, not a blank cheque to throw around microsoft's money wherever they like.

That might explain the situation at least; i'm not saying it's a good one. :P

EDIT: gamespot keeps ruining the format of my posts :?

they need a action adventure where a ninja plays an electric guitar.funsohng

They could call it... Blutar Regend! :P (sorry if I offended anyone)

Why?? It has Halo, everything its fans seem to need to be happy with it.

GreenGoblin2099

[QUOTE="warmaster670"]/faceplam

someone needs to learn what exclusive means.

agentfred

[QUOTE="Alpha-Male22"]

I totally agree. They started off great with Gears of War and even Viva Pinata, but they really fizzled out after that. I've said this before: It's ironic. MS has the money this gen to mess around with new IP's, test new franchises to crowds, etc, but they do no such thing. It is actually Sony, who in last place shouldnt be risking their demographic and who should have been relying on older franchises from their more successful last generation console who is making fresh new IPs. Uncharted, inFamous, Resistance, LittleBigPlanet, etc. are all great new franchises. Their older franchise games are finally rolling out in the name of GT5 and God of War 3.

Ninja-Hippo

They NEED to make money this gen, otherwise their shareholders are going to bail. They lost too much money on the original xbox to finish up at a loss with the 360 as well. While they're a giant, rich as heck corporation, we need to remember that the company is split into independent sub-companies with their own budgets. Microsoft's gaming division has a budget which it must stick to, not a blank cheque to throw around microsoft's money wherever they like.

That might explain the situation at least; i'm not saying it's a good one. :P

EDIT: gamespot keeps ruining the format of my posts :?

Yeah, your right, but like you said, MS is sailing. When the king is pushed into a corner, he'll fight back-- MS keeps pushing Sony, and I think that MS thinks they have a big enough shadow to scare Sony. Come next gen, Sony seems a little more prepared in terms of delivering well known franchises in terms of the ones they've established not only this generation, but previous ones too.

If MS gets in trouble next gen, they'll need to make new IPs that may not collect as many gamers... Well actually that may not be true, Gears of War is still a young franchise and God knows slapping Halo on a box is enough to sell millions. MS has it made. Sony screwed themselves with their expensive console. Halo + PS3 $699= MS Win.

[QUOTE="warmaster670"]/faceplam

someone needs to learn what exclusive means.

agentfred

Its put on hold for now. So i think its a timed exclusive. But the PC version wont be released with the 360 version.

[QUOTE="agentfred"]

[QUOTE="warmaster670"]/faceplam

someone needs to learn what exclusive means.

deathtarget04

Its put on hold for now. So i think its a timed exclusive. But the PC version wont be released with the 360 version.

Alan Wake is looking great. I really want to try that one out, but I remember seeing Alan Wake's face all the way back since this generation started :lol:

Never really heard of it until about a year ago though

Agreed. Alan Wake is gonna be fresh, though. Mmm, yeah.

If we're going to do a comparrison between MS and Sony, should games that are shared with PC count since you can't play them on Sony systems? Mass Effect and Bio-Ware were major reasons that I went with a 360. They are on pc... but i'm a console gamer so I never even considered getting them for PC.

I supposed if you don't count great games for the 360 as great games for the 360, then the 360 doesn't have alot of great games... but that seems a little silly imo.

[QUOTE="funsohng"]they need a action adventure where a ninja plays an electric guitar.CyberRuler

They could call it... Blutar Regend! :P (sorry if I offended anyone)

True, but why single out MS? Nintendo and Sony (hell, the industry in general) aren't exactly turning out (good) new IPs at a blistering rate either.

The problem with MS is that they rely too heavily on Gears and Halo. Every year MS has to have a killer app, preferably Halo or Gears:

2006- Gears of War

2007- Halo 3

2008- Gears of War 2

2009- Halo ODST

2010- Halo Reach

2011- Gears of War 3?? (or perhaps some Geow2 expansion priced at $60)

Of course, all these titles will instantly sell millions, and this leaves MS pretty much satisfied throughout the year, leaving very little room for new exclusive IPs.

I think microsoft are starting to coast through this generation. They've sold more units than last gen, so they're happy, their console has beat out Sony - probably what they consider their biggest competitor - and they've made a decent bundle off Halo 3, their lottery ticket that always wins. Plus, they've found a little brother for Halo in the form of Gears of War, which has also done pretty well for itself in raking in the sales.

In fact, it would appear that they've settled into a strategy of releasing Gears of War and Halo games in cycles. Getting bored of Gears of War 2? Dont worry, Halo Reach is out next year. When you're done with that, Gears of War 3 will probably be around the corner.

And for me, that just doesn't cut it. They've been blessed with the best third party support you can ask for, but it always sucks to see the company which MAKES your system pull back and offer limited support in the form of their own games. Having sold off most of their third party studios, they're at least honest in admitting that they pretty much have no interest in making first party titles. Instead, their business model seems to be second party games made by other developers under the microsoft umbrella, or securing exclusivity for the PC and 360 from third party developers like EPIC.

Which basically means Gears of War, Forza and Halo - right? That and a RARE game released every 10 years only to score 'good but not great' reviews. That just isn't enough. They need new IPs, new ideas, new games. I'm not a big Gears fan, though Halo is amazing, but it only comes about once every two or three years. There's no steady supply of new, interesting games coming out of Microsoft's studios, which is sad for a company supposedly passionate about gaming.

Ninja-Hippo

What we are seeing is a business model, and while I am inclined to agree, M$ is not. In fact, people claim they won E3, with a multiplat show.

So, if M$ has the momentum, and people are super happy with this strategy of paying for timed exclusive's, I don't see why M$ should feel they need to take chances on New IP's.

As a gamer, I would like to see it happen, but as a business man, I accept the cold hard truth. With their Install base larger, and the success, there is no incentive.

Exclusives don`t matter that much these days only on Nintendo consoles do first party games sell the console. Most casual gamers play more multiplats like fifa or COD anyway.

How many exclusives has the PS3 had this year only really two big ones Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2 and the 360 has had ODST and is getting Forza 3.

Rare has made like 4 games this generation... :?Couth_

[QUOTE="Couth_"]Rare has made like 4 games this generation... :?Animal-Mother

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Couth_"]Rare has made like 4 games this generation... :?Couth_

True, but why single out MS? Nintendo and Sony (hell, the industry in general) aren't exactly turning out (good) new IPs at a blistering rate either.

PBSnipes

Sonys already brought out 6 new IPs this gen, with at least half of them being overall well recieved.

Sonys already brought out 6 new IPs this gen, with at least half of them being overall well recieved.

warmaster670

Which is comparable to MS:

• Kameo
• Viva Pinata
• Gears of War
• Mass Effect
• Lost Odyssey
• Crackdown

The problem with MS is that they rely too heavily on Gears and Halo. Every year MS has to have a killer app, preferably Halo or Gears:

2006- Gears of War

2007- Halo 3

2008- Gears of War 2

2009- Halo ODST

2010- Halo Reach

2011- Gears of War 3?? (or perhaps some Geow2 expansion priced at $60)

Of course, all these titles will instantly sell millions, and this leaves MS pretty much satisfied throughout the year, leaving very little room for new exclusive IPs.

SpinoRaptor24

I think they need to bring back Crimson Skies...DonPerian

[QUOTE="warmaster670"]

Sonys already brought out 6 new IPs this gen, with at least half of them being overall well recieved.

PBSnipes

Which is comparable to MS:

• Kameo
• Viva Pinata
• Gears of War
• Mass Effect
• Lost Odyssey
• Crackdown

Mass effect isnt theres, gears of war, isnt theres, and i think they already killed kameo (shame)

I agere

when you bought your 360.. you know what you're going to get.. Halo and then Gears. now be happy. and play

Mass effect isnt theres, gears of war, isnt theres, and i think they already killed kameo (shame)

warmaster670

MS funded the original Mass Effect (at least the 360 version) in its entirety before selling the IP to EA, MS owns the rights to the original Gears, and killing Kameo 2 doesn't negate the fact Kameo 1 exists.