Microsoft owns the PC platform as well. Why else would Halo and Halo 2 come out

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#1 crusadernm
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for the PC if they didn't believe this. Discuss.

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#2 Skittles_McGee
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No single company owns the PC platform. This is an extremely simple concept, that nobody seems to understand.
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No single company owns the PC platform. This is an extremely simple concept, that nobody seems to understand.Skittles_McGee

See those PC vs Mac commercials. Who do you think PC is refering to? Hint: It's Microsoft

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No single company owns the PC platform. This is an extremely simple concept, that nobody seems to understand.Skittles_McGee
people think ohh almost every computer runs windows so MS must own everything PC
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No one owns the PC platform, that's why indie developers keep popping up like mushrooms on the PC. Because they don't have to pay any royalties to the platform they're developing on unlike consoles.

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No one owns the PC platform, that's why indie developers keep popping up like mushrooms on the PC. Because they don't have to pay any royalties to the platform they're developing on unlike consoles.

Vesica_Prime

But PCs are synonymous with Microsoft. That's a fact. Can't really deny this.

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#7 Bebi_vegeta
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for the PC if they didn't believe this. Discuss.

crusadernm

Where's Halo 3?

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#8 crusadernm
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Why does Microsoft release company owned IPs on PC when Sony doesn't do this? It's because Microsoft = PC.

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#9 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]

No one owns the PC platform, that's why indie developers keep popping up like mushrooms on the PC. Because they don't have to pay any royalties to the platform they're developing on unlike consoles.

crusadernm

But PCs are synonymous with Microsoft. That's a fact. Can't really deny this.

PC is a personal computer, what is a MAC? Yes, a personal computer.

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#10 crusadernm
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[QUOTE="crusadernm"]

for the PC if they didn't believe this. Discuss.

Bebi_vegeta

Where's Halo 3?

I think it'll come out eventually. Until everything can be sold on 360. Halo 2 came out years after Xbox. MS knows Piracy will occur.

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#11 Bebi_vegeta
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Why does Microsoft release company owned IPs on PC when Sony doesn't do this? It's because Microsoft = PC.

crusadernm

Are you saying there's no exclusive for X360 when comparing it to PC?

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#12 Skittles_McGee
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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]No single company owns the PC platform. This is an extremely simple concept, that nobody seems to understand.crusadernm

See those PC vs Mac commercials. Who do you think PC is refering to? Hint: It's Microsoft

Gee, is it really? You mean more people use Windows than other OS's? Thats a shocker. However. Windows is not essential for gaming on a PC. And if you own a PC, you have Windows anyway, usually. In gaming, Microsoft gains nothing when it comes to Windows. No added sales, etc.
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#13 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="crusadernm"]

for the PC if they didn't believe this. Discuss.

crusadernm

Where's Halo 3?

I think it'll come out eventually. Until everything can be sold on 360. Halo 2 came out years after Xbox. MS knows Piracy will occur.

It took 1 year for HALO 2, people needed Vista. Seriously how long has it been since HALO 3 is out?

BTW selling used games are just as bad as piracy.

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#14 SilverChimera
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And Activision owns the PS3 platform. Why else does call of duty come out on PS3?
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Why does Microsoft release company owned IPs on PC when Sony doesn't do this? It's because Microsoft = PC.

crusadernm
Sony Online Entertainment ....... EverQuest Franchise = Sony.
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[QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]

No one owns the PC platform, that's why indie developers keep popping up like mushrooms on the PC. Because they don't have to pay any royalties to the platform they're developing on unlike consoles.

crusadernm

But PCs are synonymous with Microsoft. That's a fact. Can't really deny this.

Macs are still personal computers you know, plus there is also Linux.

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#17 crusadernm
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Live can be found on PC. PSN can't. Microsoft = PC.

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#18 Anjunaddict
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[QUOTE="crusadernm"]

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Where's Halo 3?

Bebi_vegeta

I think it'll come out eventually. Until everything can be sold on 360. Halo 2 came out years after Xbox. MS knows Piracy will occur.

It took 1 year for HALO 2, people needed Vista. Seriously how long has it been since HALO 3 is out?

BTW selling used games are just as bad as piracy.

Actually, it took nearly 3 years
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#19 Bebi_vegeta
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Live can be found on PC. PSN can't. Microsoft = PC.

crusadernm

I'm sure I can play live games on a MAC... what does that mean :?

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#20 Skittles_McGee
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Live can be found on PC. PSN can't. Microsoft = PC.

crusadernm
Um. Sony has their own online service on PC as well. Do you just ignore reality all the time or is this a rare exception?
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#21 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="crusadernm"]

I think it'll come out eventually. Until everything can be sold on 360. Halo 2 came out years after Xbox. MS knows Piracy will occur.

Anjunaddict

It took 1 year for HALO 2, people needed Vista. Seriously how long has it been since HALO 3 is out?

BTW selling used games are just as bad as piracy.

Actually, it took nearly 3 years

Yeah, 2 years and half. Then I gues Halo 3 should be out by now...

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Live can be found on PC. PSN can't. Microsoft = PC.

crusadernm
PSN can be found on TV's and Cell Phones. Sony = TV's and Cell Phones ?? FYI .... Meet Media Go = http://us.playstation.com/psn/mediago/index.htm
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I see this one is being fed well.

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#24 crusadernm
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[QUOTE="crusadernm"]

Live can be found on PC. PSN can't. Microsoft = PC.

Nonstop-Madness

PSN can be found on TV's and Cell Phones. Sony = TV's and Cell Phones ?? FYI .... Meet Media Go = http://us.playstation.com/psn/mediago/index.htm

Sony is 4th place in TV sales behind Samsung, Vizio, and Panasonic. LOL.

Can I play PSN games on my PC? No you can't. There are tons of Live enabled games on PC. Microsoft = PC.

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#25 crusadernm
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There are probably rare exceptions but for 999 out of 1000 people in the real world. PC=Microsoft.

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There are probably rare exceptions but for 999 out of 1000 people in the real world. PC=Microsoft.

crusadernm
Got any links to back up this claim of yours?
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#27 Espada12
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There are probably rare exceptions but for 999 out of 1000 people in the real world. PC=Microsoft.

crusadernm

Oh I might as well feed to! In the real world 999 out of 1000 people think PC = Dell and HP.

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There are probably rare exceptions but for 999 out of 1000 people in the real world. PC=Microsoft.

crusadernm
And those people are dead wrong and have been listening to too many MAC commercial. PC = personal computer. A PC can use Linux, Windows or any other operating system. It need not be Microsoft.
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sony makes computers that run windows. sony also makes software that runs on windows. therefore by your logic microsoft=sony.
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There are probably rare exceptions but for 999 out of 1000 people in the real world. PC=Microsoft.

crusadernm
What the hell is wrong with you?? =| Do you even know what a PC is? When people think Microsoft they don't think they own PC, they think they own a so called Operating System named Windows. Go look up what PC even means... Microsoft doesn't own personal computers (ie. laptops, netbooks, desktops, tablet PC's, etc) Microsoft only owns software called Windows. Even then there is still the MAC OS and Linux as well. You can't say that Microsoft owns PC's just because they release more games for the PC than Sony or Nintendo. =| In the case of PC: Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo would be counted as all...3rd party developers for PC (I guess we could make PC a fourth player in this war of fanboys). But just so you know - only 1 out of 1000 people thing Personal Computer = Microsoft. Can you guess who that 1 out of 1000 is. =| 999 out of 1000 think Windows = Microsoft. So just leave it alone - you are just here to annoy people, because so far, i have yet to see an actual argument come from you.
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[QUOTE="crusadernm"]

There are probably rare exceptions but for 999 out of 1000 people in the real world. PC=Microsoft.

Vandalvideo

And those people are dead wrong and have been listening to too many MAC commercial. PC = personal computer. A PC can use Linux, Windows or any other operating system. It need not be Microsoft.

But 99% of the PCs run windows.

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#32 Vesica_Prime
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="crusadernm"]

There are probably rare exceptions but for 999 out of 1000 people in the real world. PC=Microsoft.

crusadernm

And those people are dead wrong and have been listening to too many MAC commercial. PC = personal computer. A PC can use Linux, Windows or any other operating system. It need not be Microsoft.

But 99% of the PCs run windows.

Proof?

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[QUOTE="crusadernm"]

There are probably rare exceptions but for 999 out of 1000 people in the real world. PC=Microsoft.

mgs_freak91

What the hell is wrong with you?? =| Do you even know what a PC is? When people think Microsoft they don't think they own PC, they think they own a so called Operating System named Windows. Go look up what PC even means... Microsoft doesn't own personal computers (ie. laptops, netbooks, desktops, tablet PC's, etc) Microsoft only owns software called Windows. Even then there is still the MAC OS and Linux as well. You can't say that Microsoft owns PC's just because they release more games for the PC than Sony or Nintendo. =| In the case of PC: Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo would be counted as all...3rd party developers for PC (I guess we could make PC a fourth player in this war of fanboys). But just so you know - only 1 out of 1000 people thing Personal Computer = Microsoft. Can you guess who that 1 out of 1000 is. =| 999 out of 1000 think Windows = Microsoft. So just leave it alone - you are just here to annoy people, because so far, i have yet to see an actual argument come from you.

But when you say PC to the average person, they think of Microsoft. I'm sorry but its ingrained in all the world.

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#34 crusadernm
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[QUOTE="crusadernm"]

Live can be found on PC. PSN can't. Microsoft = PC.

Skittles_McGee

Um. Sony has their own online service on PC as well. Do you just ignore reality all the time or is this a rare exception?

What's it called? What games can i play?

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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="crusadernm"]

There are probably rare exceptions but for 999 out of 1000 people in the real world. PC=Microsoft.

crusadernm

And those people are dead wrong and have been listening to too many MAC commercial. PC = personal computer. A PC can use Linux, Windows or any other operating system. It need not be Microsoft.

But 99% of the PCs run windows.

mac has 4% market share, linux has 1%. windows still has the majority but i still dont get how you think that them having a large share on a program makes them own the eniter platform.
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Microsoft doesn't own the PC. Their Games for Windows Live flopped when they tried making people pay. Valve owns PC more than Microsoft does.
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[QUOTE="mgs_freak91"][QUOTE="crusadernm"]

There are probably rare exceptions but for 999 out of 1000 people in the real world. PC=Microsoft.

crusadernm

What the hell is wrong with you?? =| Do you even know what a PC is? When people think Microsoft they don't think they own PC, they think they own a so called Operating System named Windows. Go look up what PC even means... Microsoft doesn't own personal computers (ie. laptops, netbooks, desktops, tablet PC's, etc) Microsoft only owns software called Windows. Even then there is still the MAC OS and Linux as well. You can't say that Microsoft owns PC's just because they release more games for the PC than Sony or Nintendo. =| In the case of PC: Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo would be counted as all...3rd party developers for PC (I guess we could make PC a fourth player in this war of fanboys). But just so you know - only 1 out of 1000 people thing Personal Computer = Microsoft. Can you guess who that 1 out of 1000 is. =| 999 out of 1000 think Windows = Microsoft. So just leave it alone - you are just here to annoy people, because so far, i have yet to see an actual argument come from you.

But when you say PC to the average person, they think of Microsoft. I'm sorry but its ingrained in all the world.

most people think the great wall of china is the only man made thing you can see from space... but they're wrong.
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#38 Vandalvideo
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But 99% of the PCs run windows.crusadernm
I have no idea how you're going to prove that. At most, Microsoft has 95% considering the marketshares of the other two companies. At the end of the day though PC =/= Microsoft.
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#39 shadow_hosi
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sony makes computers that run windows. sony also makes software that runs on windows. therefore by your logic microsoft=sony.ferret-gamer
system wars over microsoft won /thread
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#40 shadow_hosi
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="crusadernm"]

There are probably rare exceptions but for 999 out of 1000 people in the real world. PC=Microsoft.

crusadernm

And those people are dead wrong and have been listening to too many MAC commercial. PC = personal computer. A PC can use Linux, Windows or any other operating system. It need not be Microsoft.

But 99% of the PCs run windows.

macs are also PCs thus you are fully wrong
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#41 -Feath-
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I played TF2 on linux with literally no microsoft software or hardware, 20 minutes ago.

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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="crusadernm"]

There are probably rare exceptions but for 999 out of 1000 people in the real world. PC=Microsoft.

crusadernm

And those people are dead wrong and have been listening to too many MAC commercial. PC = personal computer. A PC can use Linux, Windows or any other operating system. It need not be Microsoft.

But 99% of the PCs run windows.

Actually, Windows has about 87% of the market share, with Mac OSX and Linux having 5% and 1% of the operating System market.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems

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Microsoft doesn't own the PC. Their Games for Windows Live flopped when they tried making people pay. Valve owns PC more than Microsoft does.Parasomniac

Which would change the PC landscape more if they got out of the business. Microsoft or valve. I rest my case.

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#45 shadow_hosi
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[QUOTE="Parasomniac"]Microsoft doesn't own the PC. Their Games for Windows Live flopped when they tried making people pay. Valve owns PC more than Microsoft does.crusadernm

Which would change the PC landscape more if they got out of the business. Microsoft or valve. I rest my case.

valve

if microsoft goes out of business, nobody will care, everyone will start using linux an the world will keep spinning

if valve goes out of business steam goes down, the majority of the pc community will lose their connection to each other and pc gaming will be set back at least a decade

Furthermore

undeliable proof to defeat the TC that macs are infact pcs

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I believe the TC used the wrong term for what he's trying to get across. All computers are Personal Computers. It's the operating system that counts. And Microsoft makes Windows. It doesn't matter if they get paid for games made on it or not. It's still a Microsoft operating system that the games are made for.
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#48 shadow_hosi
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I believe the TC used the wrong term for what he's trying to get across. All computers are Personal Computers. It's the operating system that counts. And Microsoft makes Windows. It doesn't matter if they get paid for games made on it or not. It's still a Microsoft operating system that the games are made for.MPHhunter
no, no they aren't infact most games nowadays have compatibility for linux and mac as well as winows
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#49 blizzvalve
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I believe the TC used the wrong term for what he's trying to get across. All computers are Personal Computers. It's the operating system that counts. And Microsoft makes Windows. It doesn't matter if they get paid for games made on it or not. It's still a Microsoft operating system that the games are made for.MPHhunter

But those PC games can be played on either Mac (but not many ) or Linux. PC gaming is not exclusive with Windows nor does Microsoft profit from PC gaming. The only way Microsoft profits from PC gaming is when they release their own games for the PC (Halo, Age of Empires, Microsoft Flight Simulator, etc.)

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#50 -Feath-
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I believe the TC used the wrong term for what he's trying to get across. All computers are Personal Computers. It's the operating system that counts. And Microsoft makes Windows. It doesn't matter if they get paid for games made on it or not. It's still a Microsoft operating system that the games are made for.MPHhunter
The thing with the PC platform is there is one large significance that most console gamers seem to ignore/fail to understand (not pointing you out, just an general opening statement) is that there is limitless freedom, to do anything you want. Sure, some things might not be easy, some might require knowledge of coding languages, but you can do almost literally /anything/ you want with whatever. Games might be coded to run best on windows (not made FOR, else it would only run on windows), but you /can/ run games on other operating systems. Results vary from game to game but it can work.

Nothing is standard in the PC world, not even the software. That's why it is so versatile.