OXM UK: "Microsoft executives have gone on record about the Playstation Network hack, saying it's bad for the gaming industry and it highlights the need for safer online environments.
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OXM UK: "Microsoft executives have gone on record about the Playstation Network hack, saying it's bad for the gaming industry and it highlights the need for safer online environments.
To be fair to MS "ask a stupid question and you'll get a stupid answer".
I think the interviewer was expecting them to say, "ah Sony suck blah blah blah", but in truth MS see Sony as healthy competition.
In other news, the earth isn't so flat as we originally thought.mrmusicman247Actually, we originally thought it was flat.
[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]In other news, the earth isn't so flat as we originally thought.sethman410Actually, we originally thought it was flat. um...thats what he just said...hence isn't so flat as we originally thought meaning we thought it was flat....now we don't....
Yeah because milking the consumer dry with xbox live and over priced add on is any better.OXM UK: "Microsoft executives have gone on record about the Playstation Network hack, saying it's bad for the gaming industry and it highlights the need for safer online environments.
killzonexbox
[QUOTE="killzonexbox"]Yeah because milking the consumer dry with xbox live and over priced add on is any better. I love my xbox live. That is some nice milking :dOXM UK: "Microsoft executives have gone on record about the Playstation Network hack, saying it's bad for the gaming industry and it highlights the need for safer online environments.
tormentos
[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="killzonexbox"]Yeah because milking the consumer dry with xbox live and over priced add on is any better. I love my xbox live. That is some nice milking :d and remember ethernet cables, hdmi cables, usb cables, controllers headsets...etc all sell for under 10 bucks the official sony ones....:lol:OXM UK: "Microsoft executives have gone on record about the Playstation Network hack, saying it's bad for the gaming industry and it highlights the need for safer online environments.
racing1750
Translation: LOL Sony and your piss poor PSN.The_PacificPSN is ok even the damn Pentagon has loss sensitive information to hackers,MS is not different and millions of people have experience not only data theft,but also identity,and had their PC basically kill thanks to hackers and the biggest and most hacked software is Windows a MS products,trowing a jab at sony for PSN is silly MS has been putting data as risk from millions of computers before the PS was even born.
[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="killzonexbox"]Yeah because milking the consumer dry with xbox live and over priced add on is any better. I love my xbox live. That is some nice milking :d The fact that you love it in nothing change the fact that it is a rip off.OXM UK: "Microsoft executives have gone on record about the Playstation Network hack, saying it's bad for the gaming industry and it highlights the need for safer online environments.
racing1750
I love my xbox live. That is some nice milking :d and remember ethernet cables, hdmi cables, usb cables, controllers headsets...etc all sell for under 10 bucks the official sony ones....:lol: Not more than the $100 network adapter,$20 dollars on PC and the 20GB for $100,when for $50 you could buy a 160 GB one back then.[QUOTE="racing1750"][QUOTE="tormentos"] Yeah because milking the consumer dry with xbox live and over priced add on is any better.WilliamRLBaker
I wonder when the hackers will make a move on MS...And XBL...I mean other video game companies/developers are getting hacked...
[QUOTE="The_Pacific"]Translation: LOL Sony and your piss poor PSN.tormentosPSN is ok even the damn Pentagon has loss sensitive information to hackers,MS is not different and millions of people have experience not only data theft,but also identity,and had their PC basically kill thanks to hackers and the biggest and most hacked software is Windows a MS products,trowing a jab at sony for PSN is silly MS has been putting data as risk from millions of computers before the PS was even born. yeah sorry man but when a company basically is caught running their security off apple II's then its a very large embarrasment. Specially when it took them forever to let people know and then wouldn't give specific information and instead used words like maybe, may have and possibly but unlikely. Oh and http://psndowntime.com/They still haven't managed to get the network up as a whole yet.
[QUOTE="racing1750"][QUOTE="tormentos"] The fact that you love it in nothing change the fact that it is a rip off.tormentosThat's not a fact, that is your opinion ;) It is a fact not my opinion dude,charging for something that has been free for ages is is ripping people off,you can argue that you see value on it,but still a rip off,you use your own game,your own connection and your own 360,and MS charge you for allowing you to connect period.
I get value from it so it's not a rip off = still your opinion.
[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]and remember ethernet cables, hdmi cables, usb cables, controllers headsets...etc all sell for under 10 bucks the official sony ones....:lol: Not more than the $100 network adapter,$20 dollars on PC and the 20GB for $100,when for $50 you could buy a 160 GB one back then. every single accesory for the ps3 is expensive just as expesive as the ones on the 360 *and no where near the quality either the 360 controller far superior the dual shock and has far better battery life too*. If all you have is 2 things then you really dont have anything. Seems like Sony ""rips off"" their customers just as much.[QUOTE="racing1750"] I love my xbox live. That is some nice milking :dtormentos
PSN is ok even the damn Pentagon has loss sensitive information to hackers,MS is not different and millions of people have experience not only data theft,but also identity,and had their PC basically kill thanks to hackers and the biggest and most hacked software is Windows a MS products,trowing a jab at sony for PSN is silly MS has been putting data as risk from millions of computers before the PS was even born. yeah sorry man but when a company basically is caught running their security off apple II's then its a very large embarrasment. Specially when it took them forever to let people know and then wouldn't give specific information and instead used words like maybe, may have and possibly but unlikely. Oh and http://psndowntime.com/They still haven't managed to get the network up as a whole yet. Your point? They haven't confirmd any identy theft losses. So, your saying psn being down was a larger embarrassment than pentagon being hacked. Lolwut. The biggest point is, there is no such thing as hack proof. Who cares about psn not being up as a whole yet? That's actually smart thing to do... Because they want to be hell sure that the security is much much tighter this time around.[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="The_Pacific"]Translation: LOL Sony and your piss poor PSN.WilliamRLBaker
[QUOTE="racing1750"][QUOTE="tormentos"] The fact that you love it in nothing change the fact that it is a rip off.tormentosThat's not a fact, that is your opinion ;) It is a fact not my opinion dude,charging for something that has been free for ages is is ripping people off,you can argue that you see value on it,but still a rip off,you use your own game,your own connection and your own 360,and MS charge you for allowing you to connect period. No im pretty sure thats an opinion because it hasn't always been free.
PSN is ok even the damn Pentagon has loss sensitive information to hackers,MS is not different and millions of people have experience not only data theft,but also identity,and had their PC basically kill thanks to hackers and the biggest and most hacked software is Windows a MS products,trowing a jab at sony for PSN is silly MS has been putting data as risk from millions of computers before the PS was even born. yeah sorry man but when a company basically is caught running their security off apple II's then its a very large embarrasment. Specially when it took them forever to let people know and then wouldn't give specific information and instead used words like maybe, may have and possibly but unlikely. Oh and http://psndowntime.com/They still haven't managed to get the network up as a whole yet.[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="The_Pacific"]Translation: LOL Sony and your piss poor PSN.WilliamRLBaker
I wanna see what your going to say when Hackers start targeting MS...
[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] and remember ethernet cables, hdmi cables, usb cables, controllers headsets...etc all sell for under 10 bucks the official sony ones....:lol:
Not more than the $100 network adapter,$20 dollars on PC and the 20GB for $100,when for $50 you could buy a 160 GB one back then. every single accesory for the ps3 is expensive just as expesive as the ones on the 360 *and no where near the quality either the 360 controller far superior the dual shock and has far better battery life too*. If all you have is 2 things then you really dont have anything. Seems like Sony ""rips off"" their customers just as much. You have to buy batteries for xbox 360 controller therefore "having larger battery life" is irrevelant.PSN is ok even the damn Pentagon has loss sensitive information to hackers,MS is not different and millions of people have experience not only data theft,but also identity,and had their PC basically kill thanks to hackers and the biggest and most hacked software is Windows a MS products,trowing a jab at sony for PSN is silly MS has been putting data as risk from millions of computers before the PS was even born. yeah sorry man but when a company basically is caught running their security off apple II's then its a very large embarrasment. Specially when it took them forever to let people know and then wouldn't give specific information and instead used words like maybe, may have and possibly but unlikely. Oh and http://psndowntime.com/They still haven't managed to get the network up as a whole yet. Is worst when you pay for it and you can't sing in to play,like it happen with xbox live in 2007,oh it was the huge holiday traffic.. Which the company should have see and prevented,no system is safe from hackers,and xbox live is included and you know it,if MS had the most secure software no one in the world would have the need to have and anti virus on their PC,considering windows is MS #1 cash cow and biggest profit maker.[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="The_Pacific"]Translation: LOL Sony and your piss poor PSN.WilliamRLBaker
[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]yeah sorry man but when a company basically is caught running their security off apple II's then its a very large embarrasment. Specially when it took them forever to let people know and then wouldn't give specific information and instead used words like maybe, may have and possibly but unlikely. Oh and http://psndowntime.com/They still haven't managed to get the network up as a whole yet. Your point? They haven't confirmd any identy theft losses. So, your saying psn being down was a larger embarrassment than pentagon being hacked. Lolwut. The biggest point is, there is no such thing as hack proof. Who cares about psn not being up as a whole yet? That's actually smart thing to do... Because they want to be hell sure that the security is much much tighter this time around. One incident does not dismiss another incident. A man murders another man then saves another man does not dismiss the previous case of murder. So comming around and saying But it happens all the time or But this happend to these guys does not change the fact that Sony was embarrased highly and rightfully so.[QUOTE="tormentos"] PSN is ok even the damn Pentagon has loss sensitive information to hackers,MS is not different and millions of people have experience not only data theft,but also identity,and had their PC basically kill thanks to hackers and the biggest and most hacked software is Windows a MS products,trowing a jab at sony for PSN is silly MS has been putting data as risk from millions of computers before the PS was even born.sethman410
[QUOTE="sethman410"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] yeah sorry man but when a company basically is caught running their security off apple II's then its a very large embarrasment. Specially when it took them forever to let people know and then wouldn't give specific information and instead used words like maybe, may have and possibly but unlikely. Oh and http://psndowntime.com/They still haven't managed to get the network up as a whole yet.
Your point? They haven't confirmd any identy theft losses. So, your saying psn being down was a larger embarrassment than pentagon being hacked. Lolwut. The biggest point is, there is no such thing as hack proof. Who cares about psn not being up as a whole yet? That's actually smart thing to do... Because they want to be hell sure that the security is much much tighter this time around. One incident does not dismiss another incident. A man murders another man then saves another man does not dismiss the previous case of murder. So comming around and saying But it happens all the time or But this happend to these guys does not change the fact that Sony was embarrased highly and rightfully so. Ok, I agree that they are embarressed. But sire, not the biggest embarrassment in history because you're acting like it is.[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]every single accesory for the ps3 is expensive just as expesive as the ones on the 360 *and no where near the quality either the 360 controller far superior the dual shock and has far better battery life too*. If all you have is 2 things then you really dont have anything. Seems like Sony ""rips off"" their customers just as much. You have to buy batteries for xbox 360 controller therefore "having larger battery life" is irrevelant. the 360 controller using batteries has about 30-40 hours more battery life then the dualshock 3 the Rechargable battery pack for the 360 controller has about 50 more hours battery life then a dualshock 3...yeah sorry it completely applies Sony charges just as much for their accessories that have the same examples of accessories as the 360 and they aren't even as good of quality.[QUOTE="tormentos"] Not more than the $100 network adapter,$20 dollars on PC and the 20GB for $100,when for $50 you could buy a 160 GB one back then.sethman410
[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="racing1750"] That's not a fact, that is your opinion ;)WilliamRLBakerIt is a fact not my opinion dude,charging for something that has been free for ages is is ripping people off,you can argue that you see value on it,but still a rip off,you use your own game,your own connection and your own 360,and MS charge you for allowing you to connect period. No im pretty sure thats an opinion because it hasn't always been free. DC Free. PS2 Free PC Free Gamecube Free Wii Free PS3 Free DS Free PSP Free 3DS Free Vita as of now Free oh and with cross game chat............lol So you were saying.?
[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]One incident does not dismiss another incident. A man murders another man then saves another man does not dismiss the previous case of murder. So comming around and saying But it happens all the time or But this happend to these guys does not change the fact that Sony was embarrased highly and rightfully so. Ok, I agree that they are embarressed. But sire, not the biggest embarrassment in history because you're acting like it is. How exaclty are you able to get act like it is from words on a screen? At no point did I say that but I will say it now In the video game world Sony has been embarrased more then most any other company since the begining of video games.[QUOTE="sethman410"] Your point? They haven't confirmd any identy theft losses. So, your saying psn being down was a larger embarrassment than pentagon being hacked. Lolwut. The biggest point is, there is no such thing as hack proof. Who cares about psn not being up as a whole yet? That's actually smart thing to do... Because they want to be hell sure that the security is much much tighter this time around.sethman410
[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="tormentos"] It is a fact not my opinion dude,charging for something that has been free for ages is is ripping people off,you can argue that you see value on it,but still a rip off,you use your own game,your own connection and your own 360,and MS charge you for allowing you to connect period.tormentosNo im pretty sure thats an opinion because it hasn't always been free. DC Free. PS2 Free PC Free Gamecube Free Wii Free PS3 Free DS Free PSP Free 3DS Free Vita as of now Free oh and with cross game chat............lol So you were saying.? heat.net, sega.net. x-band...I could go on there are more examples...
[QUOTE="sethman410"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] every single accesory for the ps3 is expensive just as expesive as the ones on the 360 *and no where near the quality either the 360 controller far superior the dual shock and has far better battery life too*. If all you have is 2 things then you really dont have anything. Seems like Sony ""rips off"" their customers just as much.
You have to buy batteries for xbox 360 controller therefore "having larger battery life" is irrevelant. the 360 controller using batteries has about 30-40 hours more battery life then the dualshock 3 the Rechargable battery pack for the 360 controller has about 50 more hours battery life then a dualshock 3...yeah sorry it completely applies Sony charges just as much for their accessories that have the same examples of accessories as the 360 and they aren't even as good of quality. No it doesn't completely apply. They're equal and actually dualshock is better because you save more money and the battery life last long enough to not really bother anyone to have to get up and recharge it. Oh REALLY? They aren't as good as 360 accessories? Lol, that's just your opinion.[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]yeah sorry man but when a company basically is caught running their security off apple II's then its a very large embarrasment. Specially when it took them forever to let people know and then wouldn't give specific information and instead used words like maybe, may have and possibly but unlikely. Oh and http://psndowntime.com/They still haven't managed to get the network up as a whole yet. Is worst when you pay for it and you can't sing in to play,like it happen with xbox live in 2007,oh it was the huge holiday traffic.. Which the company should have see and prevented,no system is safe from hackers,and xbox live is included and you know it,if MS had the most secure software no one in the world would have the need to have and anti virus on their PC,considering windows is MS #1 cash cow and biggest profit maker.[QUOTE="tormentos"] PSN is ok even the damn Pentagon has loss sensitive information to hackers,MS is not different and millions of people have experience not only data theft,but also identity,and had their PC basically kill thanks to hackers and the biggest and most hacked software is Windows a MS products,trowing a jab at sony for PSN is silly MS has been putting data as risk from millions of computers before the PS was even born.tormentos
:lol: Xbox live was down for like 2 weeks and it wasn't even down it was down for some people some of the time and others not down at all, all caused by people wanting to get onto the superior service.
Far different from Sony basically having an attitude that hey its free we wont get hacked we don't need security and then being forced to go down for...http://psndowntime.com/that place has all the information about the total downtimes.
[QUOTE="sethman410"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] One incident does not dismiss another incident. A man murders another man then saves another man does not dismiss the previous case of murder. So comming around and saying But it happens all the time or But this happend to these guys does not change the fact that Sony was embarrased highly and rightfully so.
Ok, I agree that they are embarressed. But sire, not the biggest embarrassment in history because you're acting like it is. How exaclty are you able to get act like it is from words on a screen? At no point did I say that but I will say it now In the video game world Sony has been embarrased more then most any other company since the begining of video games. Same can be said words coming out of people's mouth. It's just how the person is typing. Lol.Far different from Sony basically having an attitude that hey its free we wont get hacked we don't need security and then being forced to go down for...http://psndowntime.com/that place has all the information about the total downtimes.WilliamRLBakerBecause you know it's been prooven that Sony had crap security right? Aside from all those "Hacker logs" that are as legit as me saying I have the key to fort knox on my lanyard. Yup they totally said "Security? Whats that!"
[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]the 360 controller using batteries has about 30-40 hours more battery life then the dualshock 3 the Rechargable battery pack for the 360 controller has about 50 more hours battery life then a dualshock 3...yeah sorry it completely applies Sony charges just as much for their accessories that have the same examples of accessories as the 360 and they aren't even as good of quality. No it doesn't completely apply. They're equal and actually dualshock is better because you save more money and the battery life last long enough to not really bother anyone to have to get up and recharge it. Oh REALLY? They aren't as good as 360 accessories? Lol, that's just your opinion.[QUOTE="sethman410"] You have to buy batteries for xbox 360 controller therefore "having larger battery life" is irrevelant.sethman410
nah its pretty much confirmed fact the wireless headset is a confirmed egonomic nightmare before they changed it *confirmed ergonomic nightmare BECAUSE they changed it it went from this boxy hard angled thing to soft curves if it wasn't an ergonomic nightmare they wouldn't have changed the design* Controller not nearly as good battery life as the 360 controller, triggers, analog sticks ergonomic nightmare.
I could list others? they aren't equal thats 50 more hours of game time without having to wait and charge it up, then you have the fact the 360 will charge your controllers when plugged in while its turned off the ps3 wont, you can get a 360 controller and play and charge kit combo for the same price as a dual shock 3...so they aren't equal.
Note: I'm off to go mow the yard do not take my absence as defeat or you or tomentos as proving some sort of point i will be back to reply.
This hack was nothing more than an excuse for some sorry hackers to make trouble. Its like looters that take advantage of large crowd gatherings or protests. At least Microsoft is saying something which takes some guts considering everyone else is getting hacked.-ArchAngeL-777-Couldn't have said it better myself.
I love my xbox live. That is some nice milking :d and remember ethernet cables, hdmi cables, usb cables, controllers headsets...etc all sell for under 10 bucks the official sony ones....:lol: Just like that wireless network adaptor?[QUOTE="racing1750"][QUOTE="tormentos"] Yeah because milking the consumer dry with xbox live and over priced add on is any better.WilliamRLBaker
No it doesn't completely apply. They're equal and actually dualshock is better because you save more money and the battery life last long enough to not really bother anyone to have to get up and recharge it. Oh REALLY? They aren't as good as 360 accessories? Lol, that's just your opinion.[QUOTE="sethman410"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] the 360 controller using batteries has about 30-40 hours more battery life then the dualshock 3 the Rechargable battery pack for the 360 controller has about 50 more hours battery life then a dualshock 3...yeah sorry it completely applies Sony charges just as much for their accessories that have the same examples of accessories as the 360 and they aren't even as good of quality.
WilliamRLBaker
nah its pretty much confirmed fact the wireless headset is a confirmed egonomic nightmare before they changed it *confirmed ergonomic nightmare BECAUSE they changed it it went from this boxy hard angled thing to soft curves if it wasn't an ergonomic nightmare they wouldn't have changed the design* Controller not nearly as good battery life as the 360 controller, triggers, analog sticks ergonomic nightmare.
I could list others? they aren't equal thats 50 more hours of game time without having to wait and charge it up, then you have the fact the 360 will charge your controllers when plugged in while its turned off the ps3 wont, you can get a 360 controller and play and charge kit combo for the same price as a dual shock 3...so they aren't equal.
Note: I'm off to go mow the yard do not take my absence as defeat or you or tomentos as proving some sort of point i will be back to reply.
Most of your statements if not all is irrevelant. I think you got owned because I said, you save money because you can recharge the controller not go out a buy frikkin batteries. That's the end of story right here. (You have to go buy accessory for 360 conrollers to be recharged, so this is frikkin irrevelant mr. baker.) Other accessories for crying out loud is just your opinion. Oh, and the controller likes and dislikes is also personal preference. You liking 360 controller better does not represent everyone.[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]and remember ethernet cables, hdmi cables, usb cables, controllers headsets...etc all sell for under 10 bucks the official sony ones....:lol: Just like that wireless network adaptor? 360s have the wifi built in these days :?[QUOTE="racing1750"] I love my xbox live. That is some nice milking :dDarthJohnova
[QUOTE="DarthJohnova"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] and remember ethernet cables, hdmi cables, usb cables, controllers headsets...etc all sell for under 10 bucks the official sony ones....:lol:Just like that wireless network adaptor? 360s have the wifi built in these days :?racing1750
Since last year, yes.
Though I suppose you have a point, all the old xboxes before last year have probably RROD'd by now, so yeah...good point :P
[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]In other news, the earth isn't so flat as we originally thought.sethman410Actually, we originally thought it was flat.
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Not more than the $100 network adapter,$20 dollars on PC and the 20GB for $100,when for $50 you could buy a 160 GB one back then. every single accesory for the ps3 is expensive just as expesive as the ones on the 360 *and no where near the quality either the 360 controller far superior the dual shock and has far better battery life too*. If all you have is 2 things then you really dont have anything. Seems like Sony ""rips off"" their customers just as much. Lets see http://www.gamestop.com/xbox-360/accessories/microsoft-xbox-360-live-wireless-headset/61048 Head set $50 http://www.gamestop.com/xbox-360/accessories/xbox-controller-with-play-and-charge-kit/84175 Xbox 360 controller with play and charge kit $65 http://www.gamestop.com/xbox-360/accessories/xbox-360-250gb-internal-hard-drive/83934 250 GB HDD $130 http://www.gamestop.com/xbox-360/accessories/xbox-360-memory-card-512mb/74075 Memory card 512 MB $25 PS3 http://www.gamestop.com/ps3/accessories/ps3-bluetooth-headset-20/88207 Bluetooth head set $50 http://www.gamestop.com/ps3/accessories/ps3-dualshock-3-wireless-controller/69638 DS3 controller $55 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148489 250 GB HDD $45 http://www.buydig.com/shop/product.aspx?omid=118&utm_id=14&ref=nextag&utm_source=NexTag&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=SNUSM4GN&sku=SNUSM4GN 4GB pen drive $13 compare...[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] and remember ethernet cables, hdmi cables, usb cables, controllers headsets...etc all sell for under 10 bucks the official sony ones....:lol:
WilliamRLBaker
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