Microsoft 'rounding up answers' on Xbox One's DRM stance

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#1 -RocBoys9489-
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Major Nelson says Microsoft is putting together a definitive list of answers to lingering Xbox One questions, and that "they look pretty good."

Microsoft has said it is "listening" to the various complaints and concerns surrounding the unveiling of its next-generation Xbox One console last week.

Microsoft spokesperson Larry "Major Nelson" Hryb said that Microsoft is readying up a series of answers relating to key concerns over DRM, the need for the console to check in online, and a perceived lack of focus from Microsoft on gaming.

Responding to a critical statement on Twitter, Hryb said, "I am working on rounding up answers, and they look pretty good. Once I have them all I'll make a post."

"And yes, we are listening," he asserted.

Many core questions about the nature of the Xbox One currently remain unanswered by Microsoft at this point, though the company has repeatedly assured gamers to wait for E3. The company earlier this week tried to calm fears about users' privacy surrounding the Xbox One's new Kinect sensor.

Last week Hryb said that "reports about our policies for trade in and resale are inaccurate and incomplete. We will disclose more information in the near future." A previous report had said Microsoft and the original publisher will receive a cut of every used game sold in stores.

Microsoft executive Aaron Greenberg has said the company's E3 showing will "get it right."

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I'm getting really pissed off at MS for not just coming out with answers, but looks like they'll FINALLY tell us EXACTLY what to expect, instead of speculation/misunderstandings/rumors we've been getting as of lately.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/microsoft-rounding-up-answers-on-xbox-ones-drm-stance-6409105

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They are trying to find a way to spin it into a positive :lol:

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#3 Optical_Order
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Watch them just confirm all of the negative rumors. :P

At least we'll have concrete info after this.

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#4 Giancar
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Why would you get pissed?

You are a hermit after all, isn't it?

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#5 I_can_haz
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 Dat damage control from M$' PR. Why do they need to "round up" answers if everything is so simple and easy for consumers. They should have given us straight answers at the reveal. Waiting 3 weeks after the reveal to "round up" answers wreaks of desperation and DC.
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#6 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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Poor excuses from Microsoft, what else is new?

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#7 -RocBoys9489-
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Why would you get pissed?

You are a hermit after all, isn't it?

Giancar
Cuz I may buy either a ps4/wiiu/one eventually and I want to know if the one will be a possible first choice or not.
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#8 Badosh
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I'm glad we're getting 100% concrete answers...
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#9 clyde46
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[QUOTE="Giancar"]

Why would you get pissed?

You are a hermit after all, isn't it?

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Cuz I may buy either a ps4/wiiu/one eventually and I want to know if the one will be a possible first choice or not.

Same.
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They should be no need to 'round up' anything. Although I am seriously surprised, I now realize they were caught off guard at the shear hostility they received from the initial announcement and are now doing their best to damage control. How they can be so out of touch to not expect this, I don't know, but they were definitely not expecting this or they would have already had all these answers prepared ahead of time.
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#11 WilliamRLBaker
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Short of the answer being that there will be no DRM, no Required online, and no required kinect then they have forever lost a game console customer and maybe even an OS customer.

 

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#12 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
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If they had their shit together in the first place, they wouldn't have got the bad press.
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#13 clr84651
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Hopefully they get their arse handed to them & back off doing some of this crap on x1. 

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They should be no need to 'round up' anything. Although I am seriously surprised, I now realize they were caught off guard at the shear hostility they received from the initial announcement and are now doing their best to damage control. How they can be so out of touch to not expect this, I don't know, but they were definitely not expecting this or they would have already had all these answers prepared ahead of time.DerekLoffin

I don't see how they were caught off guard by the reaction. The whole Adam Orth thing showed them what people thought of a console requiring a internet connection. M$ didn't care what people thought and went ahead with their plan anyway.

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#15 The_Last_Ride
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They are trying to find a way to spin it into a positive :lol:

NathanDrakeSwag
that's what i am thinking
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#16 clr84651
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It's simple, MS is going too far with crap on x1. I have no idea how they can get away with Kinect being always on and spying on consumers habits to know how to advertise to them. That's violating consumers privacy in their homes. 

Essentially spyware taken to a higher level. 

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#17 tehMoerz
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This doesn't mean anything. They could still say yes to everything we don't want.
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[QUOTE="DerekLoffin"]They should be no need to 'round up' anything. Although I am seriously surprised, I now realize they were caught off guard at the shear hostility they received from the initial announcement and are now doing their best to damage control. How they can be so out of touch to not expect this, I don't know, but they were definitely not expecting this or they would have already had all these answers prepared ahead of time.NathanDrakeSwag

I don't see how they were caught off guard by the reaction. The whole Adam Orth thing showed them what people thought of a console requiring a internet connection. M$ didn't care what people thought and went ahead with their plan anyway.

No. If they didn't care, they wouldn't bother with this damage control. They'd just say 'here is it, don't like it, well deal with it'. That of course doesn't mean they are going to change course, they may already be too far committed to change course, but I know they didn't expect this level of hostility. Now they are trying desperately to down play, dodge and twist things in an effort to calm people.
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#19 Indicud
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The tc was always a lemming, he was just a big **** too so he his behind the PC to save face and avoid ownage. PS. (Not an alt Tyloss was my old account and I wanted a new name.)
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[QUOTE="Indicud"]The tc was always a lemming, he was just a big **** too so he his behind the PC to save face and avoid ownage.

True, he's a lemming hiding behind PC.
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They are trying to find a way to spin it into a positive :lol:

NathanDrakeSwag
Your parents did that with your birth. Didn't work for them. Microsoft will get it right though.
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[QUOTE="I_can_haz"][QUOTE="Indicud"]The tc was always a lemming, he was just a big **** too so he his behind the PC to save face and avoid ownage.

True, he's a lemming hiding behind PC.

A sheen hiding behind the PC...hmmmm who'd have thought such a unique individual existed?
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#23 I_can_haz
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="I_can_haz"][QUOTE="Indicud"]The tc was always a lemming, he was just a big **** too so he his behind the PC to save face and avoid ownage.

True, he's a lemming hiding behind PC.

A sheen hiding behind the PC...hmmmm who'd have thought such a unique individual existed?

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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="I_can_haz"]True, he's a lemming hiding behind PC.I_can_haz
A sheen hiding behind the PC...hmmmm who'd have thought such a unique individual existed?

What is this?
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#25 NathanDrakeSwag
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[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

They are trying to find a way to spin it into a positive :lol:

timbers_WSU

Your parents did that with your birth. Didn't work for them. Microsoft will get it right though.

Sony already got it right. No one cares what M$ does now except sad lems such as yourself :lol:

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#26 ScreamDream
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Short of the answer being that there will be no DRM, no Required online, and no required kinect then they have forever lost a game console customer and maybe even an OS customer.

WilliamRLBaker

I feel the same way about PS4 and DRM. I'm going Wii U and PC if that happens.

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#27 coasterguy65
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Probably because no one has the balls to make a definitive answer yet. Sony is dodging the issues also. So I guess it is expected that MS will do the same thing. Both seem to be waiting for the other to take the plunge.

Sadly I doubt that E3 will bring us any closer to a definitive answer from either company. I would expect a lot more side stepping of the issues from both sides.  We probably won't know the truth until the fall.

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#28 IamAdorable
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Good. I could use some clear answers regarding the console.
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#29 coasterguy65
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[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"][QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

They are trying to find a way to spin it into a positive :lol:

NathanDrakeSwag

Your parents did that with your birth. Didn't work for them. Microsoft will get it right though.

Sony already got it right. No one cares what M$ does now except sad lems such as yourself :lol:

How has Sony gotten it right? All they have confirmed is that the PS4 won't block used games (neither does the XB1), and that the PS4 is primarily a gaming machine.

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#30 percech
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MS can't win with you cow plebs. You guys must live miserable lives.
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#31 -RocBoys9489-
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[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"] Your parents did that with your birth. Didn't work for them. Microsoft will get it right though.coasterguy65

Sony already got it right. No one cares what M$ does now except sad lems such as yourself :lol:

How has Sony gotten it right? All they have confirmed is that the PS4 won't block used games (neither does the XB1), and that the PS4 is primarily a gaming machine.

E3 is right around the corner, thank god lol
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#32 vaderhater
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[QUOTE="coasterguy65"]

[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

Sony already got it right. No one cares what M$ does now except sad lems such as yourself :lol:

-RocBoys9489-

How has Sony gotten it right? All they have confirmed is that the PS4 won't block used games (neither does the XB1), and that the PS4 is primarily a gaming machine.

E3 is right around the corner, thank god lol

Yeah I know.

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#33 vaderhater
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[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"][QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

They are trying to find a way to spin it into a positive :lol:

NathanDrakeSwag

Your parents did that with your birth. Didn't work for them. Microsoft will get it right though.

Sony already got it right. No one cares what M$ does now except sad lems such as yourself :lol:

Yeah I like the look of the PS4 too.:roll:

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They are trying to find a way to spin it into a positive :lol:

NathanDrakeSwag

:lol:

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#35 danjammer69
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If anyone is expecting MS to reneg on this and reverse the decision of the used game fee, I would think they would be in for a disappointment.

This is most likely a multi million, if not billion, dollar deal that was likely made at least a year or more ago with publishers.

This is why I think at this point, sadly, that SONY will have to follow suit if they want to maintain dev support.

If SONY has no used games fee, why on earth would anyone want to release any disc based games on the system if developing for MS would net them substantially more money in the long run?

God this sucks

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#36 LJS9502_basic
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Damage control....
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#37 NathanDrakeSwag
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If anyone is expecting MS to reneg on this and reverse the decision of the used game fee, I would think they would be in for a disappointment.

This is most likely a multi million, if not billion, dollar deal that was likely made at least a year or more ago with publishers.

This is why I think at this point, sadly, that SONY will have to follow suit if they want to maintain dev support.

If SONY has no used games fee, why on earth would anyone want to release any disc based games on the system if developing for MS would net them substantially more money in the long run?

 

God this sucks

danjammer69

Sony will never have to follow this. They already said the publishers can do what they want (like they have always been able to do) but Sony 1st party games will work the same as they always have.

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MS can't win with you cow plebs. You guys must live miserable lives.percech

:lol::lol::lol:

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[QUOTE="I_can_haz"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] A sheen hiding behind the PC...hmmmm who'd have thought such a unique individual existed?TigerSuperman

What is this?

its the only thing he can post, he has no capability of forming cognitive thought.

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#40 GulliversTravel
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Damage is done guys, backtracking wont help. Besides they are still going to pack Kinect with every system and the OSs are going to hog a lot of that memory.
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#41 percech
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[QUOTE="percech"]MS can't win with you cow plebs. You guys must live miserable lives.heeweesRus

:lol::lol::lol:

PS4: We have games nobody wants to play
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[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]

[QUOTE="percech"]MS can't win with you cow plebs. You guys must live miserable lives.percech

:lol::lol::lol:

PS4: We have games nobody wants to play

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/15/gran-turismo-5-10-million-sold-and-counting

http://www.gamespot.com/news/uncharted-3-sells-38-million-copies-6344707

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#43 I_can_haz
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[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="heeweesRus"]

:lol::lol::lol:

NathanDrakeSwag

PS4: We have games nobody wants to play

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/15/gran-turismo-5-10-million-sold-and-counting

http://www.gamespot.com/news/uncharted-3-sells-38-million-copies-6344707

Wow, you owned him hard.
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#44 percech
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[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="heeweesRus"]

:lol::lol::lol:

NathanDrakeSwag

PS4: We have games nobody wants to play

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/15/gran-turismo-5-10-million-sold-and-counting

http://www.gamespot.com/news/uncharted-3-sells-38-million-copies-6344707

GT has always sold well...lol Uncharted only with that 3.8 million...LMAO not even close.
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#45 HalcyonScarlet
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Well it's quite clear as to why we aren't getting straight answers. MS are probably going to u-turn on what they originally said. They are good enough at business to know when to swallow their pride and back off.

When the whole industry is unimpressed, they won't go ahead with the product anyway, without changes, they're not Nintendo (Wii U). Unless MS are stupid, they know that it will cost them the gen if they continue with those policies. And they're simple things to rectify, they just require MS to swallow their pride.

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[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="heeweesRus"]

:lol::lol::lol:

NathanDrakeSwag

PS4: We have games nobody wants to play

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/15/gran-turismo-5-10-million-sold-and-counting

http://www.gamespot.com/news/uncharted-3-sells-38-million-copies-6344707

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Xbox_360_video_games


Kinect advantures - 24m

Halo 3 - 8m

Gow - 5m

Gow 2 - 5m

 


try again cow

 

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#48 HalcyonScarlet
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[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

[QUOTE="percech"] PS4: We have games nobody wants to playnyzma23

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/15/gran-turismo-5-10-million-sold-and-counting

http://www.gamespot.com/news/uncharted-3-sells-38-million-copies-6344707

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Xbox_360_video_games


Kinect advantures - 24m

Halo 3 - 8m

Gow - 5m

Gow 2 - 5m

 


try again cow

 

Forza 3 got over 5m.

Kinect Adventures doesn't really count, it came with Kinect.

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#49 k2theswiss
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DRM DRM clearl as day!

have to connect every 24 hours or your system bricks is a light ass online drm! 

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#50 TigerSuperman
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[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

[QUOTE="percech"] PS4: We have games nobody wants to playnyzma23

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/15/gran-turismo-5-10-million-sold-and-counting

http://www.gamespot.com/news/uncharted-3-sells-38-million-copies-6344707

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Xbox_360_video_games


Kinect advantures - 24m

Halo 3 - 8m

Gow - 5m

Gow 2 - 5m

 


try again cow

 

Lol, how do you self-own so bad? Well according to you GT outsold Halo 3, wow.