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#51 super600  Moderator
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[QUOTE="nyzma23"]

[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/15/gran-turismo-5-10-million-sold-and-counting

http://www.gamespot.com/news/uncharted-3-sells-38-million-copies-6344707

TigerSuperman

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Xbox_360_video_games


Kinect advantures - 24m

Halo 3 - 8m

Gow - 5m

Gow 2 - 5m

 


try again cow

 

Lol, how do you self-own so bad? Well according to you GT outsold Halo 3, wow.

Halo 3 sold over 11 million the last time I checked.

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#52 heeweesRus
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[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

[QUOTE="percech"] PS4: We have games nobody wants to playpercech

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/15/gran-turismo-5-10-million-sold-and-counting

http://www.gamespot.com/news/uncharted-3-sells-38-million-copies-6344707

GT has always sold well...lol Uncharted only with that 3.8 million...LMAO not even close.

3.8 million on LAUNCH ;)

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[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/15/gran-turismo-5-10-million-sold-and-counting

http://www.gamespot.com/news/uncharted-3-sells-38-million-copies-6344707

heeweesRus

GT has always sold well...lol Uncharted only with that 3.8 million...LMAO not even close.

3.8 million on LAUNCH ;)

Uncharted 3 sold more in 1 day than Gears 3 sold during its launch week.

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/09/29/gears-of-war-3-sold-over-3-million-units-in-first-week/

So much for lems buying their games :(

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[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]

[QUOTE="percech"] GT has always sold well...lol Uncharted only with that 3.8 million...LMAO not even close. NathanDrakeSwag

3.8 million on LAUNCH ;)

Uncharted 3 sold more in 1 day than Gears 3 sold during its launch week.

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/09/29/gears-of-war-3-sold-over-3-million-units-in-first-week/

So much for lems buying their games :(

Those numbers were shipped.:lol:

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[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]

[QUOTE="percech"]MS can't win with you cow plebs. You guys must live miserable lives.percech

  Lots of Games!

:lol::lol::lol:

PS4: We have games nobody wants to play

In 9 days they are going to have games! 

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[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="heeweesRus"]

:lol::lol::lol:

NathanDrakeSwag

PS4: We have games nobody wants to play

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/15/gran-turismo-5-10-million-sold-and-counting

http://www.gamespot.com/news/uncharted-3-sells-38-million-copies-6344707

But you did not buy a copy. No PS3. No games.
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#58 White_Dreams
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I doubt they are changing the policy. Prepare for a wildly anti consumer product.
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#59 xhawk27
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I doubt they are changing the policy. Prepare for a wildly anti consumer product.White_Dreams

And you think 3rd party devs are not going to do the same on the PS4? 

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#60 timbers_WSU
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I don't understand Microsoft's new culture. F*** it up first, then defend, then clarify or even more defense, then realize they are wrong, then patch it. There are many things you can predict it is going to get F*** up without actually getting it from a sales report.magicalclick
No one should have to explain this and a ton of podcast has already said what Microsoft did. They made announcements to see a reaction. They wanted to know what would and would not fly. When E3 comes around everything that they think they can get away with will be in the system and they will fix whatever caused to much controversy I say they will have better privacy settings and the Kinect can be turned off at any time. It will probably be online only. And most likely the used games thing will either go back to the old way or will make more sense after E3. As big as Microsoft is they have plenty of time to change the internals on the XB1. People don't think they can in here because they have no idea what they are talking about. But Greenberg just said in a podcast recorded Wed. that Microsoft was still debating on what to and what not to add in the XB1.
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#61 White_Dreams
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[QUOTE="White_Dreams"]I doubt they are changing the policy. Prepare for a wildly anti consumer product.xhawk27

And you think 3rd party devs are not going to do the same on the PS4? 

Not sure if devs make those decisions.
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#62 timbers_WSU
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[QUOTE="White_Dreams"]I doubt they are changing the policy. Prepare for a wildly anti consumer product.xhawk27

And you think 3rd party devs are not going to do the same on the PS4? 

I think that could be the reason EA was backing off the Wii U for a while. Used games. After the bad press Microsoft got EA went back to making games on the Wii U. Pretty sure EA, Microsoft, and probably others are trying to come up with a solution on how to make everyone happy and still get a cut from the used market. If they come up with a way, expect EA to again drop Wii U support and possibly Sony's on all but the major titles.
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#63 timbers_WSU
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[QUOTE="xhawk27"]

[QUOTE="White_Dreams"]I doubt they are changing the policy. Prepare for a wildly anti consumer product.White_Dreams

And you think 3rd party devs are not going to do the same on the PS4? 

Not sure if devs make those decisions.

The publisher does. Sony has done the online pass and DLC shit as much as everyone else. They are just as guilty of this crap as Microsoft.Only Nintendo has really stayed away from it but they do not have enough online content to make it a concern.
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#64 White_Dreams
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[QUOTE="White_Dreams"][QUOTE="xhawk27"]

And you think 3rd party devs are not going to do the same on the PS4? 

timbers_WSU
Not sure if devs make those decisions.

The publisher does. Sony has done the online pass and DLC shit as much as everyone else. They are just as guilty of this crap as Microsoft.Only Nintendo has really stayed away from it but they do not have enough online content to make it a concern.

Yeah and I only see EA doing offline passes for the first couple years. I prefer that over the entire system.
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#65 tormentos
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Probably because no one has the balls to make a definitive answer yet. Sony is dodging the issues also. So I guess it is expected that MS will do the same thing. Both seem to be waiting for the other to take the plunge.

Sadly I doubt that E3 will bring us any closer to a definitive answer from either company. I would expect a lot more side stepping of the issues from both sides.  We probably won't know the truth until the fall.

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Sony already say online wasn't need it..

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#66 Shewgenja
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How long does it take to say "No, we won't implement it standard"?  Unless, the answer is yes.

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#67 CJ_ofCamelot
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Major just stirred up the lemmings is all he really did LOL
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#68 xhawk27
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Sony hasn't really said much about the PS4 or even shown it! :lol:

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#69 Heil68
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Good. I hope the drm isn't too bad and that i can still rent/lend and borrow games. Other than that i want a lot of new core, non kinect(lol) exclusives.
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They are trying to find a way to spin it into a positive :lol:

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hahahah yeah! just like Sony and other big companies! Go figure!
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#71 CJ_ofCamelot
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[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

They are trying to find a way to spin it into a positive :lol:

xsubtownerx
hahahah yeah! just like Sony and other big companies! Go figure!

LOL you sound so mad. The thing is sony is Win!!!
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#72 JETS-JETS-JETS
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MS is doing all the right things so far ... good to see them take notice ... $1 billion for exclusive games and listening to complaints and giving answers to all our questions 

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Good. I hope the drm isn't too bad and that i can still rent/lend and borrow games. Other than that i want a lot of new core, non kinect(lol) exclusives. Heil68

 

Even though I fine with kinect I want MS yo do that to.

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[QUOTE="xhawk27"]

[QUOTE="White_Dreams"]I doubt they are changing the policy. Prepare for a wildly anti consumer product.White_Dreams

And you think 3rd party devs are not going to do the same on the PS4? 

Not sure if devs make those decisions.

i am pretty sure the publisher does unless the devs are their own publisher, BUT publishers would have to agree to the console maker terms to be on their system or put up a fight
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#75 jg4xchamp
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They are trying to find a way to spin it into a positive :lol:

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#76 CJ_ofCamelot
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[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

They are trying to find a way to spin it into a positive :lol:

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Tired of all this pvssyfooting around. Just give us a straight answer
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Tired of all this pvssyfooting around. Just give us a straight answerBPoole96
After the PR disaster that was post-reveal? Unless they got full on concrete shit they are willing to take some heat on they are going to be very careful with what they say about that stuff from here on in, till probably the last second.
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]Tired of all this pvssyfooting around. Just give us a straight answerjg4xchamp
After the PR disaster that was post-reveal? Unless they got full on concrete shit they are willing to take some heat on they are going to be very careful with what they say about that stuff from here on in, till probably the last second.

I'd rather them say nothing at all then keep hinting back and forth of what they're going to do. Since they are so timid about saying it, I'm am guessing it is not in the consumer's favor, otherwise they'd be more than happy to tell is we have nothing to worry about
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Keeps the publishers happy, this plus the massive investments MS is making to secure exclusives is a good thing; why only look at the negative.

I mean, how many great exclusives do sony have now?

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]Tired of all this pvssyfooting around. Just give us a straight answerBPoole96
After the PR disaster that was post-reveal? Unless they got full on concrete shit they are willing to take some heat on they are going to be very careful with what they say about that stuff from here on in, till probably the last second.

I'd rather them say nothing at all then keep hinting back and forth of what they're going to do. Since they are so timid about saying it, I'm am guessing it is not in the consumer's favor, otherwise they'd be more than happy to tell is we have nothing to worry about

Pretty much. Sony's PR and reveal went smoothly. Microsoft? reveal is fine if E3 delivers the goods, but all the news post reveal? Absolutely terrible. Like it's bad enough some of this stuff is clearly douchy, but somehow a multi-billion dollar company forgot how to do proper PR cliche "we're not talking about that right now". The incompetence is incredible. Can't wait for the question dodging when someone brings up the xbox live price tag.
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Short of the answer being that there will be no DRM, no Required online, and no required kinect then they have forever lost a game console customer and maybe even an OS customer.

 

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First loosingends and now rlbaker ? :o
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#83 skrat_01
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'rounding up answers'. Gee whiz that sure is a good sign, what a competent company.
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Damage is done guys, backtracking wont help. Besides they are still going to pack Kinect with every system and the OSs are going to hog a lot of that memory.GulliversTravel
How is the damage done? Nothing was ever properly confirmed, and whilst it looks bad now, this damage that's been done isn't going to mean anything in 6 months time when the console actually launches (depending of course on what they actually announced in terms of used games)
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Probably because no one has the balls to make a definitive answer yet. Sony is dodging the issues also. So I guess it is expected that MS will do the same thing. Both seem to be waiting for the other to take the plunge.

Sadly I doubt that E3 will bring us any closer to a definitive answer from either company. I would expect a lot more side stepping of the issues from both sides.  We probably won't know the truth until the fall.

coasterguy65
WTF dude. How much more of a straight answer do you expect from Sony. They already said a number of times that they aren't blocking used games.
MS can't win with you cow plebs. You guys must live miserable lives.percech
Yes free online, able to play used games, no required internet, no required kinect. Yes cow's lives must totally suck. :roll:
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#87 OctaBech
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"they look pretty good." - Major Nelson Oh spare me the Jedi mind crap, we are quite capable of telling if the answers are good or bad.
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#88 MirkoS77
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Well it's quite clear as to why we aren't getting straight answers. MS are probably going to u-turn on what they originally said. They are good enough at business to know when to swallow their pride and back off.

When the whole industry is unimpressed, they won't go ahead with the product anyway, without changes, they're not Nintendo (Wii U). Unless MS are stupid, they know that it will cost them the gen if they continue with those policies. And they're simple things to rectify, they just require MS to swallow their pride.

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No, they won't change a thing, they'll simply elaborate. Rest assured that the Xbone will be a success even with these policies in place. I guarantee it. Unless MS comes out and says no Internet required and no mandatory Kinect (I can grudgingly live with minor fees and restrictions on used games if I must), nothing for me changes. And like I said, they won't.
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Short of the answer being that there will be no DRM, no Required online, and no required kinect then they have forever lost a game console customer and maybe even an OS customer.

WilliamRLBaker

Coming from you that's kind of surprising considering how big of a lem you are, or were...

...But then again, it shouldn't be a surprise since I WAS a 60% sheep 40% lem once but now? Now I'm 100% sheep with a itching to go down the hermit route and I've never done that before?

Why? You can have MS to thank for that! I just don't get why they would think all of that above is a good idea. I can swallow Kinect and no backward compat but the rest? That just plain BS, especially the DRM! That just a slap in the face to all of the loyal Xbox consumers that MS had built up!

Sigh, guess sooner or later, it will happen to everyone. AFter two successful rounds, Nintendo thought carts could beat CD and well, took them 10 years to recover. Last gen, after two successful rounds, Sony got arrogant and thought forcing people to work two jobs for a $600 console would be a good idea and well, they got slapped from 1st to third....Guess this time, after two successful round...again...it is MS's turn.

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#90 Krelian-co
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they will need all dat cloud powah to make some bs xbots will believe.

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#91 Krelian-co
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

Short of the answer being that there will be no DRM, no Required online, and no required kinect then they have forever lost a game console customer and maybe even an OS customer.

 

anshul89

First loosingends and now rlbaker ? :o

when two of the biggest lem apologists abandon the xbone ship you know things are bad.

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#92 -Xeno-
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They either remove it or I'll never buy it and a lot of gamers feel the same way. Given how few exclusives MS puts out, and the fact that I have no interest in Halo or Forza, and Rare is effectively dead it's not like I'm going to be missing much anyway.

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#93 StryderK
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Keeps the publishers happy, this plus the massive investments MS is making to secure exclusives is a good thing; why only look at the negative.

I mean, how many great exclusives do sony have now?

AdolescentDon

Keep the publishers happy at the expense of the consumer.

Howz about I say no to that? Even if MS gets every single third-party games exclusive, I will still be going down the WII U + PC route next gen. Unlike blind fanboyz, I will NOT be ripped off no matter what!