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Ahhh..so thats why Ps3 games don't sell nearly as well as the 360 games...WilliamRLBakerNot the only reason, but probably a pretty big part of why. I think another big reason why is not only does the 360 have more consoles in homes than the PS3, but a lot of early PS3 owners were non-gamers who just wanted a good Blu-Ray player with gaming as an afterthought. Everything makes a difference.
[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="dethroned3"]Yes I do...Thanks for asking What are Kinect's killer apps? Dance Central! Also, its only just come out, you have to give it time for devs to get creative with it. Remember this is 100% new, not just a Wii ++ controller.*yawn*
does anyone here truly enjoy kinect?
Messiahbolical-
What's more funny is that you do the exact thing when it comes to Sony's products. Was 'bout to say that lol. And it's not funny anymore because all fanboys do this, it's nothing new and is definitely not funny, but old.[QUOTE="rybe1025"]
The funny part is all the cows trying to downplay it. If the roles were reversed and Move was doing this good you know they would be singing a different tune. I do not own Kinect or plan to own one at this time but I am not a hater also. People seem to love it so power to them
Sollet
It's amazing what $500,000,000 worth of brainwashing can do.Messiahbolical-Yes, brainwashing, that HAS to be it!
[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]I only knew of shipped. If this is sold, then this would be kind of new. As far as any elitist "hardcores" care, no one is interested. In reality, however, at least 8 million people care. And counting. Not necessarily. You're assuming the 8 million actually like the product. You know, just because they bought it, doesn't necessarily mean they like it. :POld news? Or am I from the future, cos I knew for like a month now that Kinect has sold 8 million units.
AncientDozer
[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]
Come on now. Not only was PDZ overrated by Gamespot even for it's time(81 metascore, which is sad since standards hadn't even been established for the gen yet as it was a launch title) but it's 5 and a half years old now while Resistance 2 is 2 and a half years old... Do you really think they're equal? :?
Meh, I'll give it to you anyways. But where's PDZ2 then? We've already had Resistance 1 + 2 and Resistance 3 on the way. So where's PDZ 2 + 3? to match up?
Just face it, the 360 only has 1 great exclusive FPS franchise while the PS3 has 2. And on top of that, there's still a lot of genres there that Microsoft hasn't matched Sony on. I know you probably don't care, and either to I to some extent... but you can't say quality over quantity if the PS3 has just as much(sometimes more) quality exclusives in almost every genre WITH more quantity.waltefmoney
Don't go just yet.
Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise 8.5 > Nothing 0.0
Ace Combat 6 8.5 > Nothing 0.0
Dead or Alive 4 8.8 > Nothing 0.0
Deathsmiles 8.0 > Nothing 0.0
Amped 3 7.6 > Nothing 0.0
Let's continue then
Motorstorm 2 8.0 > Nothing
God of War 3 9.0 > Nothing
Ninja Gaiden 2 sigma 8.5 > Ninja Gaiden 2 8.0
Ratchen and Clank ACIT 8.5 = Banjoo Kaozooie: 8.5
Warhawk 8.5 > Nothing cba finding more
Let's continue then
Motorstorm 2 8.0 > NothingGod of War 3 9.0 > Nothing
Ninja Gaiden 2 sigma 8.5 > Ninja Gaiden 2 8.0
Ratchen and Clank ACIT 8.5 = Banjoo Kaozooie: 8.5
Warhawk 8.5 > Nothing cba finding more
Sollet
Very well.
Culdcept SAGA 8.0 > Nothing
Chromehounds 7.9 > Nothing
Race Pro 7.5 > Nothing
MotoGP 6 8.2 > Nothing
Saints Row 8.3 > Nothing
[QUOTE="Sollet"]
Let's continue then
Motorstorm 2 8.0 > NothingGod of War 3 9.0 > Nothing
Ninja Gaiden 2 sigma 8.5 > Ninja Gaiden 2 8.0
Ratchen and Clank ACIT 8.5 = Banjoo Kaozooie: 8.5
Warhawk 8.5 > Nothing cba finding more
waltefmoney
Very well.
Culdcept SAGA 8.0 > Nothing
Chromehounds 7.9 > Nothing
Race Pro 7.5 > Nothing
MotoGP 6 8.2 > Nothing
Saints Row 8.3 > Nothing
Now you're getting a bit desperate if you have to resort to using 7.5 games to prove a point... What's next? 6.0 games? lol I thought we were comparing the cream of the crop here... the games that people buy the console for.
But if you REALLY want, we can bring the flops into this too.
Lair 4.5 > Nothing :P
Now you're getting a bit desperate if you have to resort to using 7.5 games to prove a point... lolMessiahbolical-
I'm not trying to prove a point, I'm listing stuff. It's quite fun. But what's wrong? Is there a rule against listing AE's in this listing game you came up with?
[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]Now you're getting a bit desperate if you have to resort to using 7.5 games to prove a point... lolwaltefmoney
I'm not trying to prove a point, I'm listing stuff. It's quite fun. But what's wrong? Is there a rule against listing AE's in this listing game you came up with?
I edited my post. lolNow you're getting a bit desperate if you have to resort to using 7.5 games to prove a point... What's next? 6.0 games? lol I thought we were comparing the cream of the crop here... the games that people buy the console for.
But if you REALLY want, we can bring the flops into this too.
Lair 4.5 > Nothing :P
Messiahbolical-
Why would we start listing flops?
[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]
Now you're getting a bit desperate if you have to resort to using 7.5 games to prove a point... What's next? 6.0 games? lol I thought we were comparing the cream of the crop here... the games that people buy the console for.
But if you REALLY want, we can bring the flops into this too.
Lair 4.5 > Nothing :P
waltefmoney
Why would we start listing flops?
Idk, why not? Is there a rule against listing flops now? :PIdk, why not? Is there a rule against listing flops now? :PMessiahbolical-
Okay, but you listed Lair, which is a PS3 flop. Am I supposed to list 360 flops now?
I have a PS3 so I am not anti it. I just feel the need sometimes to make sure cows are set straight sometimes. Cow" PS3 is the best console ever"- truth-clearly it is not since the least amount of people want it Cow " The PS3 has the bet games" - truth-Ya as long as you are not comparing it the the PC or 360 library. And so on and on and on. I am more anti PS3 fans which in general I do not like at all then I am anti the PS3. What are you? The SW police? please lol. Also just because you say one says "I own a ps3" doesn't make one less biased. Hows alakir 25 doin for ya big boy ... Fail mage is fail >.[QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="Sollet"] What's more funny is that you do the exact thing when it comes to Sony's products.
Sollet
Again in the end of the day Microsoft knows how to sell products they understand the need for proper advertising and they now reap the rewardsIs that supposed to be a lot considering there's Microsoft and a half a billion dollar campaign behind it?
N30F3N1X
[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]
Idk, why not? Is there a rule against listing flops now? :Pwaltefmoney
Okay, but you listed Lair, which is a PS3 flop. Am I supposed to list 360 flops now?
Sure, why not? List some flops that the PS3 has no answer for... lmaoTo be far that 500 million dollar campaign budget is for a year.Is that supposed to be a lot considering there's Microsoft and a half a billion dollar campaign behind it?
N30F3N1X
[QUOTE="waltefmoney"][QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]
Idk, why not? Is there a rule against listing flops now? :PMessiahbolical-
Okay, but you listed Lair, which is a PS3 flop. Am I supposed to list 360 flops now?
Sure, why not? List some flops that the PS3 has no answer for... lmaoFinding a flop that the PS3 has no answer for is gonna be difficult, maybe even impossible.
[QUOTE="Sollet"]What's more funny is that you do the exact thing when it comes to Sony's products.I have a PS3 so I am not anti it. I just feel the need sometimes to make sure cows are set straight sometimes. Cow" PS3 is the best console ever"- truth-clearly it is not since the least amount of people want it Cow " The PS3 has the bet games" - truth-Ya as long as you are not comparing it the the PC or 360 library. And so on and on and on. I am more anti PS3 fans which in general I do not like at all then I am anti the PS3.Dude, simply owning the console you routinely bash doesn't clear you of being a fanboy, especially considering your history here. And besides, even if no cows are harping about PS3 or one of its games at the moment, you STILL bash it.[QUOTE="rybe1025"]
The funny part is all the cows trying to downplay it. If the roles were reversed and Move was doing this good you know they would be singing a different tune. I do not own Kinect or plan to own one at this time but I am not a hater also. People seem to love it so power to them
rybe1025
Touche. ;)Finding a flop that the PS3 has no answer for is gonna be difficult, maybe even impossible.
waltefmoney
Sure, why not? List some flops that the PS3 has no answer for... lmao[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]
Okay, but you listed Lair, which is a PS3 flop. Am I supposed to list 360 flops now?
waltefmoney
Finding a flop that the PS3 has no answer for is gonna be difficult, maybe even impossible.
If i'm not mistaken, doesn't the 360 have more flops than the ps3?*yawn*
does anyone here truly enjoy kinect?
dethroned3
I did when I first got it and for a month or two after but there isn't much else to do with it until new games come out
What's with all the people in this thread implying the $500 million achieved nothing and that people bought Kinect for other reasons?
Maybe Microsoft let them in some of that $500,000,000. ;) lolWhat's with all the people in this thread implying the $500 million achieved nothing and that people bought Kinect for other reasons?
Kan0nF0dder
How about this then? the $500 Million didn't achieve everything, but it also didn't achieve nothing. Mind boggling i know.What's with all the people in this thread implying the $500 million achieved nothing and that people bought Kinect for other reasons?
Kan0nF0dder
[QUOTE="Kan0nF0dder"]How about this then? the $500 Million didn't achieve everything, but it also didn't achieve nothing. Mind boggling i know. Do you have little nephews or little brothers you babysit that like to watch Nickelodeon or Disney Channel? If you do, and you saw all the immense amount of commercials and promotions for it within 1 hour of television, you'd know how much it's "achieving"(aka drilling into little kids minds over and over and over how 'cool' it is and how they 'gotta have it')What's with all the people in this thread implying the $500 million achieved nothing and that people bought Kinect for other reasons?
nintendo-4life
[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="Kan0nF0dder"]How about this then? the $500 Million didn't achieve everything, but it also didn't achieve nothing. Mind boggling i know. Do you have little nephews or little brothers you babysit that like to watch Nickelodeon or Disney Channel? If you do, and you saw all the immense amount of commercials and promotions for it within 1 hour of television, you'd know how much it's "achieving"(aka drilling into little kids minds over and over and over how 'cool' it is and how they 'gotta have it') Wow, I didn't realize Kevin Butler appealed to toddlers. Maube Sony was always onto something with all of thos ads. Then again like minds....What's with all the people in this thread implying the $500 million achieved nothing and that people bought Kinect for other reasons?
Messiahbolical-
[QUOTE="lordlors"][QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]It's amazing what $500,000,000 worth of brainwashing can do.Messiahbolical-Brainwashing? So making people have fun is brainwashing now? Oh how i love the elitism of the so called "hardcore" gamer I consider advertisements and promotions in general to be brainwashing. Ads are almost always just trying to convince people that they "must have" their product or that their product is the "coolest thing out that you gotta get" or that their product is "high quality" without any basis or proof for their claims. If you want a good example, watch the Bud Light commercials that aired during the Super Bowl earlier. Never seen a company brainwash so much in my life. They want you to think it's so cool to drink Bud Light, they want you to think the flavor is so great, and that they put so much craftsmanship into brewing it even though in reality it's cheap over-carbonated piss water brewed in mass quantities using adjuncts like Corn and Rice as cheap alternatives to quality malts usually found in beer like barley, rye, oats, caramel malts, roasted malts... etc. That's just my feeling on the whole thing. If you have to spend $500,000,000 to get something to sell, it must not be that good. That's probably more money than they spent designing the damn thing and making launch titles for it to begin with. Right now there's no "killer app" for the Kinect... in fact, there's barely even that many games on it at all... let alone good ones. So why is it selling so much? What specific "amazing" games are drawing people to it? :? None. It's simply because Microsoft convinced people that it's cool. Oh so you think Kinect isn't cool and those who think it is are brainwashed. Says you? Please stop insulting people because not all are idiots who believe anything that's said on the ads. Many of my friends think Kinect is very cool and they haven't seen an ad from it. We live in Philippines. They saw it from the internet and not the ads but from E3 2010 and demo videos. Anyway, what i'm originally referring to is people having "fun" with Kinect. Do you think they were brainwashed? If they're having fun with Kinect then ads no longer matter. Ads are there to deceive yes but once you got the product and you're satisfied with it, it doesn't matter. BTW, what's amazing to others might not be amazing to you so please keep your opinions and preferences with you. I wouldn't be surprised if you start "preaching" how gimmicky and uncool Kinect is to other people claiming you're this someone who knows the "truth" and other people are being "brainwashed". lol
[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="Kan0nF0dder"]How about this then? the $500 Million didn't achieve everything, but it also didn't achieve nothing. Mind boggling i know. Do you have little nephews or little brothers you babysit that like to watch Nickelodeon or Disney Channel? If you do, and you saw all the immense amount of commercials and promotions for it within 1 hour of television, you'd know how much it's "achieving"(aka drilling into little kids minds over and over and over how 'cool' it is and how they 'gotta have it')What's with all the people in this thread implying the $500 million achieved nothing and that people bought Kinect for other reasons?
Messiahbolical-
I watch Spongebob all the time, and I don't recall seeing any Kinect commercials :(
I watched my nephew for 3 days straight last week and he watches that show with the Selena Gomez girl in it all the time. Is that Disney Channel? Either way, that's the channel I noticed there was so much advertising for Kinect on. Every time I was in the kitchen by the TV and commercials were on I'd hear Kinect this and Kinect that.I watch Spongebob all the time, and I don't recall seeing any Kinect commercials :(
Raymundo_Manuel
Oh so you think Kinect isn't cool and those who think it is are brainwashed. Says you? Please stop insulting people because not all are idiots who believe anything that's said on the ads. Many of my friends think Kinect is very cool and they haven't seen an ad from it. We live in Philippines. They saw it from the internet and not the ads but from E3 2010 and demo videos. Anyway, what i'm originally referring to is people having "fun" with Kinect. Do you think they were brainwashed? If they're having fun with Kinect then ads no longer matter. Ads are there to deceive yes but once you got the product and you're satisfied with it, it doesn't matter. BTW, what's amazing to others might not be amazing to you so please keep your opinions and preferences with you. I wouldn't be surprised if you start "preaching" how gimmicky and uncool Kinect is to other people claiming you're this someone who knows the "truth" and other people are being "brainwashed". lollordlorsI never said it everyone was "brainwashed" that bought Kinect. I never said I knew the "truth". And I never said Kinect was horrible or uncool like it was a fact. I simply stated my opinion on how much power advertising has. And if you consider me calling people "brainwashed" an insult, then stop taking everything so literal. "Brainwashed" is just a figure of speech for buying into the marketing hype. It doesn't make you dumb... it happens to people all the time. Chill.
And who knows, I could be proven wrong and look stupid eventually. Some day Kinect might have a lot of good games and turn out to be a quality product. You never know. Look at the Wii. Remember how many people bought into the hype early on? I'd never seen so much buyers regret from people buying a product in my life. But now it has a pretty good library of games and turned out to be a quality product overall and lot of people are happy with it.
If Microsoft DOES prove me wrong and turns Kinect into something great and positive(or at least non-affecting) for the core gamer experience on the 360... I'll gladly admit it. Right now it seems as if they're simply focusing on Kinect and shafting their core gamers in the process by not releasing many first party exclusives this year though... that's just my opinion.
Fast... wowhttp://www.redmondpie.com/microsoft-sells-8-million-kinect-units-in-just-60-days-since-launch/
kuvze
Kinect is pretty fun when playing with a group of people. I've never had a problem with it being too slow to read my body movements or anything like that.
I actually have a kinect, only complaint I have is my space is limited because of all the stuff I have, and you need alot of room to enjoy the kinect.
My GF's bro's have one as well, and it's in their living rooms and it's a much better experience having that much room to play.
I never said it everyone was "brainwashed" that bought Kinect. I never said I knew the "truth". And I never said Kinect was horrible or uncool like it was a fact. I simply stated my opinion on how much power advertising has. And if you consider me calling people "brainwashed" an insult, then stop taking everything so literal. "Brainwashed" is just a figure of speech for buying into the marketing hype. It doesn't make you dumb... it happens to people all the time. Chill.[QUOTE="lordlors"] Oh so you think Kinect isn't cool and those who think it is are brainwashed. Says you? Please stop insulting people because not all are idiots who believe anything that's said on the ads. Many of my friends think Kinect is very cool and they haven't seen an ad from it. We live in Philippines. They saw it from the internet and not the ads but from E3 2010 and demo videos. Anyway, what i'm originally referring to is people having "fun" with Kinect. Do you think they were brainwashed? If they're having fun with Kinect then ads no longer matter. Ads are there to deceive yes but once you got the product and you're satisfied with it, it doesn't matter. BTW, what's amazing to others might not be amazing to you so please keep your opinions and preferences with you. I wouldn't be surprised if you start "preaching" how gimmicky and uncool Kinect is to other people claiming you're this someone who knows the "truth" and other people are being "brainwashed". lolMessiahbolical-
And who knows, I could be proven wrong and look stupid eventually. Some day Kinect might have a lot of good games and turn out to be a quality product. You never know. Look at the Wii. Remember how many people bought into the hype early on? I'd never seen so much buyers regret from people buying a product in my life. But now it has a pretty good library of games and turned out to be a quality product overall and lot of people are happy with it.
If Microsoft DOES prove me wrong and turns Kinect into something great and positive(or at least non-affecting) for the core gamer experience on the 360... I'll gladly admit it. Right now it seems as if they're simply focusing on Kinect and shafting their core gamers in the process by not releasing many first party exclusives this year though... that's just my opinion.
ACTUALLY you implied it. "they spend all that money on brainwashing advertisements to cash in on the casuals."" And then later that they convinced people it was cool. Both make it pretty clear. Ad's are brainwashing, Microsoft ad's are specially brainwashing...and Microsoft succeeded in brainwashing people...therefor all people whom buy it are brainwashed.ACTUALLY you implied it. "they spend all that money on brainwashing advertisements to cash in on the casuals."" And then later that they convinced people it was cool. Both make it pretty clear. Ad's are brainwashing, Microsoft ad's are specially brainwashing...and Microsoft succeeded in brainwashing people...therefor all people whom buy it are brainwashed.WilliamRLBakerI forgot... System Wars is serious business where you have to take every word everyone says as literal as can be and you can't say things out of context, nor exaggerate by any means, without getting flamed. Silly me.
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